Bunch of bourgeois idiot students. They'll be living in middle-class monotony in 10 years time and won't give a shit about Gaza and Palestine. They ought to do something more constructive than piss off the local constabulary with this embarrassing "protest".
i agree with absolutely every statement here against the protest. it was so completely ineffectual it makes me laugh. they used a serious political issue to give themselves an ego trip. the sit in was illegal, so so so inconsiderate to other students, and the list of "demands" are comical.
it was clearly an excuse to stay up all night and get high, what other reason could they have to choose a room, upstairs, in a building on the far side of the campus?
by doing it in a room, they arent making any effort to get a point across to anyone. a protest organised by retards, attended by retards, derived by everyone else, and ultimately pointless....dont you lot have any coursework to do?
ps, bet the majority of you are sociology students.
I am embarrassed to be at the same university as this bunch of complete idiots. This is a classic example of attention seeking at its absolute worst, these are clearly the kind of people who ask stupid questions in lectures just to try and catch the lecturer out, and draw attention to themselves. So the police say they don't have the resources to deal with you lot? Maybe if it wasn't for time wasting idiots like you, the police would have the resources to deal with real crime in Nottingham.
I really hope the people involved in this protest read the comments below - some are fantastic. You wasted the polices time, and disrupted the university. However, the thing that really irritates me is that you turned a serious issue of Gaza into a circus. The issue isn't BAE Systems or any other defence company for that matter - if you feel that defence isn't important you are truly an idiot. No one even knew about this till it was on the Portal - shows how much of a difference you made.
With all due respect, it is incredibly unclear why these people chose to lock themselves in this room in the first place, but to suggest that an establishment like the University of Nottingham is turning a blind eye towards to situation in Gaza is somewhat extreme.
I'm sure we are all anxious about the situation in Gaza, but locking yourself in a lecture theatre and throwing 6th form political statements around is the wrong way to approach this, in my opinion.
If it was up to me, and in fact the opinion of every other students I have spoken to about this matter - you would have been arrested and all the involved students kicked out, such a waste of people's time and effort for your little ego trip.
Also, as you were trespassing security guards can in fact use any necessary force to remove you, and they did. You didn't comply with demands, they took you out by force, that is how it works, you don't get special treatment because daddy is rich.
So you asked for Notts Uni to shut down the on campus Star bucks and offer 10 free scholarships to Palestinians.
And to do so you trespassed and (almost) disrupted the learnings of HUNDREDS of students.
And you wonder why they used force to get you out? Seriously, grow up and get a job hippies. We don't care what you have to say. NO one cares what you have to say.
@lylethelion so anyone who stands up for the rights of people in other countries, who are being opressed by a country we fund (isreal) - is a hippy? i thought that the USA and UK and Isreal were all wanting peace, and to stp 'terrorism' are they hippies?
Well this little pathetic-excuse for a stunt, this failed attempt to jump on the band wagon, this is going to be a hurdle to any REAL attempts to protest. Thanks guys.
It's not as if this money from BAE and other evil firms is in some part subsidising other projects. Like providing clean efficient ovens to third-world countries, energy storage for wind turbines, bio-fuels.. you know, things that improve the whole world.
Many people have commented that more 'constructive' methods such as fundraising are more appropriate for the Gazan cause. Although this is clearly necessary, it is also somewhat futile when we are indirectly funding the conflict at the same time. As for the need to arrange events to inform people' - this is exactly what this protest was. It was stated explicitly in the communications to senior management that any disruption peers education was expressly against the occupiers wishes.
What an absolute waste of time. Just compelled by your own ego to get attention. Wouldn't have it have been 10 times better to instead of doing some stupid protest which makes you look like a bunch of hypocritical idiots, complaining about the limited force being used, when 100s of people are dieing, to have used your time to fundraise or do something constructive such as arrange events to inform people.Now if you want to do anything on campus, your not going to be taken seriously
Trained security people can use reasonable force to remove people from situations. Assuming all the security have SIA cards then there isn't an issue here surely..
It didn't look all that violent to me. If you have ever been to a gig you see much more aggressive ways security staff remove people from venues and they are well within their rights to do so.
"156 people have signed their petition, so one might assume that the other 33,400 students at UoN either don't know (doubtful) or don't care."
And then from the Marxist theory guy:
"The basic theory was that this wasn't a genuine protest, but merely a reaction against the confines of the students' social positioning. It was an attempt to exercise one's own rights in order to avoid feeling repressed and powerless. More of an ego thing. "
I'm a student at nottingham university and i have been waiting for this for a while!! enough disruption has occurred. finally these idiots are out of the way. if i was the VC i would have called the police well before and expelled the organisers. All that whining about being man handled....ever heard of the criminal offence Illegal trespass?! the police and security were well within their rights. sufficient warning was given in the form of 2 ultimatums.
Actually, there is no "criminal offence of illegal trespass". You should try consulting the law before proclaiming its content.
There IS a criminal offence of agravated trespass, which could hardly be applied here.
What disruption have you "suffered"? Is it of the order of having your home buldozed? Of having no food to eat? Of having helicopter gunships flying overhead and firing into your home?
Here here. Tresspass is a civil offence. Were the police present at the eviction, or just security? For security personnel to forcibly eject someone from a premises it is proper (possibly only lawful when) the police are present.
You guys should have had a proper independent observer with you to tape, photograph and document any abuses. The mobile phone footage is a bit crap.
I'm a student at nottingham university and i have been waiting for this for a while!! enough disruption has occurred. finally these idiots are out of the way. if i was the VC i would have called the police well before and expelled the organisers. All that whining about being man handled....ever heard of the criminal offence Illegal trespass?! the police and security were well within their rights. sufficient warning was given in the form of 2 ultimatums.
Can I ask those who thought that a letter and/or attempts to arrange meetings with the relevant figures of management would have been a better way to go than a peaceful occupation, whether or not they've ever tried to suck that blood of understanding and democratic discussion from the stone of beurocratic administration themselves? They don't care what you want, whether it's aid for Gazans or better catering facilities, unless serving your interests happens to comply with serving theirs. Fact.
If you know that the university absolutely does not care what you want, why would they care any more about your silly little protest than a letter/attempt to arrange a meeting? So then what's the point? As many people have tried to tell you (to no avail) your time would have been far better spent doing something constructive for Gaza e.g. raising funds. But no, you went ahead with your little ego-trip and it hasn't worked because everyone has seen it for what it really is. Grow up.
I was at the Sussex Uni occupation, by the way, and all our demands were met except the full boycott of Israeli goods. As a result, equipment, free education at Sussex, a review of the university's ethical investment policy conducted by the occupation and student union etc have all been conducted/will be conducted. It worked man. That's the point. My ego was scarred a little tbh when I realised how difficult it is for any one person to do even the slightest bit of good. Do you think that
occupying for a week (which is what we did at Sussex) was easy? We barely slept because we spent every waking moment democratically debating, researching and putting on public debates and talks for the sake of educating the campus about the Israel/Palestine situation. It's not a fucking ego trip. It was hard work and it got results. It's a real shame that so many of you guys are so unreasonably quick to have a go at people for *trying*. Typical submission to powerlessness on your part, imo.
I'm not against protesting, just against ineffective protests. I don't believe that the effort expended in occupying Notts Uni combined with the disruption it caused had more effect than a form of protest that didn't disrupt. All you've got now is a backlash, even if that backlash is forum threads devoted to discussing how dumb you were ;)
mtrscorpio - you're probably right, it was made in China.
You people are sick!! Good on these students, at least they care about others. The problems that you are currently experiencing with your burgeoniung underclass is a direct result of the ruling elites manipulations over the years. Fighting against the oppression of others & a growing awareness is needed in order for the lot of many to improve. At least they didnt sit on the pimply pink asses like you lot of pigs that are dribbling out your vile comments!! Shame on Israel!! The new nazis!!!
I am deeply saddened to have seen the reaction of some of the Jsoc members; Not that they have not taken a confrontational position against the atrocities of the IDF, but opposed any initiative that attempted to do so.
I have protested against the indiscriminate kassam rockets, and even after seeing such shameful reactions towards Gaza, i would continue my protest
this is in the hope that one day, they will see the wisdom of guaranteeing the rights of all sons and daughters of Adam and eve.
no it always was and still is a protest in support of gaza. the university opposed this so naturally we opposed them, the police opposed us so ditto. but the issue is and always was solidarity with gaza, the rest is just superstructure. i dont know why all these people take such a cynical take on all protesting. it harmed nobody apart from ourselves and did raise money, so why du get so pissed off about it and support the ending of it?
The university isn't opposed to protests, or opposed to Gaza, they are opposed to you occupying their rooms without asking. Did you expect them to be ok with that? The police were just doing their job: like it or not that room didn't belong to you, holding it hostage was silly and damaging. Why not organise a march? A petition to the vice chancellor? Something with Trent Uni? Then you'd find out how many actually care about Gaza and how many just like breaking the rules.
Also some people might have been annoyed at the self-righteous vocal few trying to force their university's hand to act very strongly on a complex and controversial international issue. There are 33,500 students. Who appointed you their representatives?
No excuse me. The the situation in Gaza is neither complex nor controversial. The UN along with the international community have condemned the IDF, with the harshest language. As accurately targeting UN installations etc. is out of the scope of debate. That is why even though Israel may be winning the military grounds, it is loosing the legitimacy of the war. No one can justify the death of 400 children on any grounds, apart from Nazis.
Doesn't look very violent to me- its all screaming and yelling for no reason. Just saying you're being manhandled doesn't make it so. I really think you all need to grow up and sort yourselves out.
LaSofia, the fact that you've raised that much is excellent and I applaud you for that. However your actions in the lecture theatre aren't changing anything or helping anyone, and all this time you have spent whinging about your "oppression" by the police could have been spent doing something useful for your cause. So my advice would be to concentrate on raising money instead of this pathetic protest.
Out of interest, what makes you (a very small yet vocal minority of the university body) think that you can direct university policy to such an extent? I would certainly be very unhappy if anybody tried to promote your views on my behalf (as I can only assume that you want your statement to be made on behalf of the entire university - I don't suppose it's a view the management hold and representing it as the opinion of a small minority of students is hardly going to make an impact).
Additionally, on the subject of reasonable force - surely that's precisely what was used? The protesters were told to vacate the room, refused to, and were therefore ejected. It would have been unreasonable force if you had left when told to, or security had used more force than necessary to remove you from the room. Nothing on that video showed any significant evidence of that as far as I can see - if less force had been used the protesters wouldn't have left.
So you think that killing a massive number of Palestinians and accurately targeting places of high civilian density like but not limited to UN installations, schools, and places of worship, is what Palestinians deserve? That is the wish of a Nazi.
You are disrupting the education of people who have nothing to do with Gaza. Stop wasting your time with such a moronic protest: if you actually care about the people of Gaza, lobby someone who can actually do something: the government, or go fundraise.
We have been fundraising - we have raised almost £1,000. We have been lobbying the government, with demo's, petitions and letters. We have also decided to part-take in a peaceful sit-in due to our university's complicity in the arms trade and support for Israel's assault on Gaza as demonstrated by its biased, pro-Israeli pod cast. Know the facts about our actions before you start spouting your misinformed views.
@SleepySnooze lobbying doesn't work the system is corrupt.. the system must fall, and under its own weight and flaws, it will.. this is an example of the brutality of the system at its lesser extreme :-)
I express my utmost admiration for your ability to sense human sufferings thousands of miles away from your peaceful lives, and do what you can in your capacity to help the orphaned, the widowed, the aged, the starved, the sick, and the wounded in Gaza.
Not a lot of people have that humanitarian sense, but i shall remind them that they may never know when might they become the victims.
well done, guys you are what makes this country great. it's a shame the Uni caan't see this is the same sort of protests that they themselves probably were involved in during APARTIDE SOUTH AFRICA. the situation is no less different to the zionist, apartide regime of israel.
More publicity regarding the eviction rather than the reason for the protest......i struggled to find what the protest was regarding.....I agree with Purpletomato....give to the charity.....offer your time to help the charity. Stop whinging and think about how to help rather than waste peoples time..What have you achieved??
You can bandage the victim under the wheel, or you can try to jam a spoke in the wheel itself. I leave it to you to find out who it was who said that, and it what context.
Charitable giving, whilst necessary and helpful, wasn't the answer to apartheid, and it's not the answer here.
in doing this we raised a lot of money for medical aid for palestine and kept the topic on the agenda. if we had been successful we would have raised even more aid. many people take a cynical stance implying that we somehow did this for ourselves or because we just enjoy protesting? doing this was not fun, it was hard work and we have risked disciplinary action in doing it. I dont expect everyone to get involved but dont see why people view what we did with such hatred.
You're right, it was your sit-in that kept this international topic on the agenda. And sitting around in a room with friends listening to talks and making podcasts does sound horrendous. And how brave to risk disciplinary action - but wouldn't you just have protested against that as the next step?! I completely support the fundraising but the methods you used were selfish, divisive and unhelpful.
selfish, unhelpful how? giving up our time to raise money for gaza, thats not a selfish unhelpful act. didnt get ur point about 'protesting about that as the next step', protesting isnt fun. it wasnt horrendous, just boring. and yes we did help to keep it on the agenda, we got the mp etc coming to give speaches to packed out crowds on the issue.
if theyre not happy with the university why dont they just leave? rather than waste the effort of the security and the police.
the argument that it was peaceful is flawed by the fact that they illegally occupied a lecture theatre
i myself was at the university, at a halls of residence and didnt hear about the protest until a message appeared on the portal website showing the pathetic attempts made by these 'protesters' on tuesday.
our aim is to change the university and force it to help palestinians not to leave and allow it to do what it wants. We actually got on very well with security and i think they regretted having to do this. I think them and the police are probably more pissed off at the uni for forcing them to react in such a way than they are at us.
"our aim is to change the university and force it to help palestinians not to leave and allow it to do what it wants."
Why? Why is it the university's responsibility? Why don't you do something useful like petition MPs instead, or raise money for aid yourself rather than trying to get another organisation to pay for it for you?
We have been petitioning and writing to MPs, we have raised money for MAP and the DEC appeal. We also want the University to take responsibilty in its capacity as an educational instition. The University of Nottingham makes Millions of pounds from arms companies, the least it can do is offer scholarships to Palestinians.
Surely if the belt broke, much less than reasonable force was being used, because it still wasn't enough to move the person. Any idiot can figure this out, surely?
Well done for proving that the force they used was entirely reasonable.
pffff wow you people are the weakest most crybaby protesters ever i can hear people laughing in the back round . save your tears for real abuse you crybabies I have seen littel kids who play rougher than that ha ha ha
So what exactly is the point of this protest? What were you hoping to achieve? So if you had got your wishes and the university made a statement condemning Israel - who exactly is that helping? A statement by a university thousands of miles away isn't going to significantly improve the situation of a homeless orphaned child from Gaza, is it? If you care that much, donate to Gaza Aid Charities, don't waste your time with pointless activities like this.
We donated hundreds of pounds to Gaza charities as well as protesting about the University of Nottingham's complicity in the arms trade and support for Israel's actions.
And what I think is shameful is the fact that you lot drew valuable police and security resources away from their role of protecting the students of the University and the people of the Nottingham from real crime and forced them to focus their resources on your pathetic, and at that stage unlawful, resistance to removal.
Sounds like totally reasonable force to me. You refused to move, they dragged you out in the way that you effectively drag out resisting people. I'd love to see a trial where you lot try and back-up your claims of assault - "So, what evidence do you have?" "Erm... a belt" "A belt?" "It's broken".
Its a shame much of the footage was lost to the security guards deleting it. I guess the got what they wanted, us out, names and ID numbers and hardly any material to prove their outrageous behaviour!
How disappointing - I was hoping to see some whining pantywaists get their arses kicked
FlamingFairy 8 months ago
Bunch of bourgeois idiot students. They'll be living in middle-class monotony in 10 years time and won't give a shit about Gaza and Palestine. They ought to do something more constructive than piss off the local constabulary with this embarrassing "protest".
ClementsTom 1 year ago
@ClementsTom i highly doubt anyone who is sympathetic to the people of palestine would just forget about it
mr420B 1 year ago
Typical students, wetter than a damp cloth. God damn hippies!
If you really believed in your cause, you would have fought for it.
RugbyClens 1 year ago
stupid fucking lefty students
An embarrasment to the university
barnetbloobird 1 year ago
Get a Grip.
SlackY101 2 years ago 2
lol dumb students think theyre helping, this wasnt reprted in any news and you made fools of yourselves.
ISRAEL FTW!!!
MrRAndom5 2 years ago
You can't get away from the fact this protest was highly against the law, not to mention nebulous in its aims.
Kamiokuri 2 years ago
go to class.
nickmpco 2 years ago
i agree with absolutely every statement here against the protest. it was so completely ineffectual it makes me laugh. they used a serious political issue to give themselves an ego trip. the sit in was illegal, so so so inconsiderate to other students, and the list of "demands" are comical.
it was clearly an excuse to stay up all night and get high, what other reason could they have to choose a room, upstairs, in a building on the far side of the campus?
Kingprawn1972 3 years ago
by doing it in a room, they arent making any effort to get a point across to anyone. a protest organised by retards, attended by retards, derived by everyone else, and ultimately pointless....dont you lot have any coursework to do?
ps, bet the majority of you are sociology students.
Kingprawn1972 3 years ago
god dam hippys !! should send in eric cartmen to deal with them lol. how the hell is this helping the situation in gazza.
seansos 3 years ago
The protesters have gone a bit quiet recently, maybe they've finally realised how stupid they've made themselves look.
PurpleTomato1 3 years ago 4
I am embarrassed to be at the same university as this bunch of complete idiots. This is a classic example of attention seeking at its absolute worst, these are clearly the kind of people who ask stupid questions in lectures just to try and catch the lecturer out, and draw attention to themselves. So the police say they don't have the resources to deal with you lot? Maybe if it wasn't for time wasting idiots like you, the police would have the resources to deal with real crime in Nottingham.
hows75 3 years ago
Haha. "Real crime"? You must mean the arrest and detainment of students who download documents from US government websites for their dissertations.
Of course... that's what they need more time for.
biancalovessisteract 2 years ago
I really hope the people involved in this protest read the comments below - some are fantastic. You wasted the polices time, and disrupted the university. However, the thing that really irritates me is that you turned a serious issue of Gaza into a circus. The issue isn't BAE Systems or any other defence company for that matter - if you feel that defence isn't important you are truly an idiot. No one even knew about this till it was on the Portal - shows how much of a difference you made.
NottinghamStudent100 3 years ago 2
With all due respect, it is incredibly unclear why these people chose to lock themselves in this room in the first place, but to suggest that an establishment like the University of Nottingham is turning a blind eye towards to situation in Gaza is somewhat extreme.
I'm sure we are all anxious about the situation in Gaza, but locking yourself in a lecture theatre and throwing 6th form political statements around is the wrong way to approach this, in my opinion.
Gallery47 3 years ago
that guy screaming at 0:25 is pretty embarrassing
benmuzz 3 years ago
If it was up to me, and in fact the opinion of every other students I have spoken to about this matter - you would have been arrested and all the involved students kicked out, such a waste of people's time and effort for your little ego trip.
Also, as you were trespassing security guards can in fact use any necessary force to remove you, and they did. You didn't comply with demands, they took you out by force, that is how it works, you don't get special treatment because daddy is rich.
lylethelion 3 years ago
So you asked for Notts Uni to shut down the on campus Star bucks and offer 10 free scholarships to Palestinians.
And to do so you trespassed and (almost) disrupted the learnings of HUNDREDS of students.
And you wonder why they used force to get you out? Seriously, grow up and get a job hippies. We don't care what you have to say. NO one cares what you have to say.
lylethelion 3 years ago 9
@lylethelion so anyone who stands up for the rights of people in other countries, who are being opressed by a country we fund (isreal) - is a hippy? i thought that the USA and UK and Isreal were all wanting peace, and to stp 'terrorism' are they hippies?
mr420B 1 year ago
Number of students who signed the petition: 156
Number of students who joined the Facebook group calling for this occupation to be ended: 258
I think the students of Nottingham have spoken.
citizenloz 3 years ago 2
"you're man handling me *whinge* "
Well this little pathetic-excuse for a stunt, this failed attempt to jump on the band wagon, this is going to be a hurdle to any REAL attempts to protest. Thanks guys.
It's not as if this money from BAE and other evil firms is in some part subsidising other projects. Like providing clean efficient ovens to third-world countries, energy storage for wind turbines, bio-fuels.. you know, things that improve the whole world.
F**king humanities students.
scarble 3 years ago
Many people have commented that more 'constructive' methods such as fundraising are more appropriate for the Gazan cause. Although this is clearly necessary, it is also somewhat futile when we are indirectly funding the conflict at the same time. As for the need to arrange events to inform people' - this is exactly what this protest was. It was stated explicitly in the communications to senior management that any disruption peers education was expressly against the occupiers wishes.
TheBlackAdder 3 years ago
Hilarious! well done!! normally videos bore me.. well some of them but this one kept me in tune through out the whole thing.. realy talent you have.
Chick6517 3 years ago
what a waste of council tax ,we paid for you haaaaaats
nottsGenius 3 years ago
What an absolute waste of time. Just compelled by your own ego to get attention. Wouldn't have it have been 10 times better to instead of doing some stupid protest which makes you look like a bunch of hypocritical idiots, complaining about the limited force being used, when 100s of people are dieing, to have used your time to fundraise or do something constructive such as arrange events to inform people.Now if you want to do anything on campus, your not going to be taken seriously
lemonadepowers 3 years ago
Trained security people can use reasonable force to remove people from situations. Assuming all the security have SIA cards then there isn't an issue here surely..
It didn't look all that violent to me. If you have ever been to a gig you see much more aggressive ways security staff remove people from venues and they are well within their rights to do so.
Abisnail88 3 years ago
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whowhere2k 3 years ago
A couple of choice quotes:
"156 people have signed their petition, so one might assume that the other 33,400 students at UoN either don't know (doubtful) or don't care."
And then from the Marxist theory guy:
"The basic theory was that this wasn't a genuine protest, but merely a reaction against the confines of the students' social positioning. It was an attempt to exercise one's own rights in order to avoid feeling repressed and powerless. More of an ego thing. "
Yeah! :p
yourapocalypse 3 years ago
I'm a student at nottingham university and i have been waiting for this for a while!! enough disruption has occurred. finally these idiots are out of the way. if i was the VC i would have called the police well before and expelled the organisers. All that whining about being man handled....ever heard of the criminal offence Illegal trespass?! the police and security were well within their rights. sufficient warning was given in the form of 2 ultimatums.
good riddance!
jonnykay58 3 years ago
Actually, there is no "criminal offence of illegal trespass". You should try consulting the law before proclaiming its content.
There IS a criminal offence of agravated trespass, which could hardly be applied here.
What disruption have you "suffered"? Is it of the order of having your home buldozed? Of having no food to eat? Of having helicopter gunships flying overhead and firing into your home?
mrvannen 3 years ago
Here here. Tresspass is a civil offence. Were the police present at the eviction, or just security? For security personnel to forcibly eject someone from a premises it is proper (possibly only lawful when) the police are present.
You guys should have had a proper independent observer with you to tape, photograph and document any abuses. The mobile phone footage is a bit crap.
Raerikk 3 years ago
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NottinghamStudent100 3 years ago
I'm a student at nottingham university and i have been waiting for this for a while!! enough disruption has occurred. finally these idiots are out of the way. if i was the VC i would have called the police well before and expelled the organisers. All that whining about being man handled....ever heard of the criminal offence Illegal trespass?! the police and security were well within their rights. sufficient warning was given in the form of 2 ultimatums.
good riddance!
jonnykay58 3 years ago
Can I ask those who thought that a letter and/or attempts to arrange meetings with the relevant figures of management would have been a better way to go than a peaceful occupation, whether or not they've ever tried to suck that blood of understanding and democratic discussion from the stone of beurocratic administration themselves? They don't care what you want, whether it's aid for Gazans or better catering facilities, unless serving your interests happens to comply with serving theirs. Fact.
Lianneth 3 years ago
If you know that the university absolutely does not care what you want, why would they care any more about your silly little protest than a letter/attempt to arrange a meeting? So then what's the point? As many people have tried to tell you (to no avail) your time would have been far better spent doing something constructive for Gaza e.g. raising funds. But no, you went ahead with your little ego-trip and it hasn't worked because everyone has seen it for what it really is. Grow up.
PurpleTomato1 3 years ago
I was at the Sussex Uni occupation, by the way, and all our demands were met except the full boycott of Israeli goods. As a result, equipment, free education at Sussex, a review of the university's ethical investment policy conducted by the occupation and student union etc have all been conducted/will be conducted. It worked man. That's the point. My ego was scarred a little tbh when I realised how difficult it is for any one person to do even the slightest bit of good. Do you think that
Lianneth 3 years ago 3
occupying for a week (which is what we did at Sussex) was easy? We barely slept because we spent every waking moment democratically debating, researching and putting on public debates and talks for the sake of educating the campus about the Israel/Palestine situation. It's not a fucking ego trip. It was hard work and it got results. It's a real shame that so many of you guys are so unreasonably quick to have a go at people for *trying*. Typical submission to powerlessness on your part, imo.
Lianneth 3 years ago 4
Palestinian birth control is a bomb strapped to a ten year old...
The university students need to practice Islamic birth control to remain true to their ideals. Free training is available...
Moderate Muslim = OUT OF BULLETS
SirWinstonChurchill 3 years ago
so....
to protest against the illegal israeli occupation of gaza, the pathetic little students decided to illegaly occupy some rooms in the uni.
anybody get what im hinting at?
lolage578 3 years ago
There is free training available for their interests that doesn't cost nearly as much as a university education...
SirWinstonChurchill 3 years ago
Islam isn't a death cult, shut up, retard.
I'm not against protesting, just against ineffective protests. I don't believe that the effort expended in occupying Notts Uni combined with the disruption it caused had more effect than a form of protest that didn't disrupt. All you've got now is a backlash, even if that backlash is forum threads devoted to discussing how dumb you were ;)
mtrscorpio - you're probably right, it was made in China.
arslenian - I call Godwin's Law, you lose.
yourapocalypse 3 years ago
islam is a deathcult.
muslims hate all non-muslims. wake-up, before you lose your country.
nilesmc 3 years ago
You people are sick!! Good on these students, at least they care about others. The problems that you are currently experiencing with your burgeoniung underclass is a direct result of the ruling elites manipulations over the years. Fighting against the oppression of others & a growing awareness is needed in order for the lot of many to improve. At least they didnt sit on the pimply pink asses like you lot of pigs that are dribbling out your vile comments!! Shame on Israel!! The new nazis!!!
kiakahaprincess 3 years ago
I am deeply saddened to have seen the reaction of some of the Jsoc members; Not that they have not taken a confrontational position against the atrocities of the IDF, but opposed any initiative that attempted to do so.
I have protested against the indiscriminate kassam rockets, and even after seeing such shameful reactions towards Gaza, i would continue my protest
this is in the hope that one day, they will see the wisdom of guaranteeing the rights of all sons and daughters of Adam and eve.
arslenian 3 years ago
First it was a protest in support of Gaza (right?)
Then it was a protest against the university.
Now it's a protest against the police.
Who are you really protesting against? Mum and Dad?
You'd have made more of a difference if you'd spent the 4 days fundraising...
mtrscorpio 3 years ago 2
no it always was and still is a protest in support of gaza. the university opposed this so naturally we opposed them, the police opposed us so ditto. but the issue is and always was solidarity with gaza, the rest is just superstructure. i dont know why all these people take such a cynical take on all protesting. it harmed nobody apart from ourselves and did raise money, so why du get so pissed off about it and support the ending of it?
enripaul 3 years ago
The university isn't opposed to protests, or opposed to Gaza, they are opposed to you occupying their rooms without asking. Did you expect them to be ok with that? The police were just doing their job: like it or not that room didn't belong to you, holding it hostage was silly and damaging. Why not organise a march? A petition to the vice chancellor? Something with Trent Uni? Then you'd find out how many actually care about Gaza and how many just like breaking the rules.
mtrscorpio 3 years ago
Also some people might have been annoyed at the self-righteous vocal few trying to force their university's hand to act very strongly on a complex and controversial international issue. There are 33,500 students. Who appointed you their representatives?
mtrscorpio 3 years ago 2
No excuse me. The the situation in Gaza is neither complex nor controversial. The UN along with the international community have condemned the IDF, with the harshest language. As accurately targeting UN installations etc. is out of the scope of debate. That is why even though Israel may be winning the military grounds, it is loosing the legitimacy of the war. No one can justify the death of 400 children on any grounds, apart from Nazis.
arslenian 3 years ago
I was talking about the entire history of Israel/Palestine being complex. And well done for bringing up Godwin's law.
mtrscorpio 3 years ago
if u protest for stupidity then expect to get ur asses handed to you, the act of protest is provocative anyway, peaceful or not.
Btw 3:30, stfu and go smoke some more weed.
moomin468 3 years ago
Doesn't look very violent to me- its all screaming and yelling for no reason. Just saying you're being manhandled doesn't make it so. I really think you all need to grow up and sort yourselves out.
mrxed 3 years ago 2
LaSofia, the fact that you've raised that much is excellent and I applaud you for that. However your actions in the lecture theatre aren't changing anything or helping anyone, and all this time you have spent whinging about your "oppression" by the police could have been spent doing something useful for your cause. So my advice would be to concentrate on raising money instead of this pathetic protest.
PurpleTomato1 3 years ago 2
Out of interest, what makes you (a very small yet vocal minority of the university body) think that you can direct university policy to such an extent? I would certainly be very unhappy if anybody tried to promote your views on my behalf (as I can only assume that you want your statement to be made on behalf of the entire university - I don't suppose it's a view the management hold and representing it as the opinion of a small minority of students is hardly going to make an impact).
bentate99 3 years ago 3
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bentate99 3 years ago
Additionally, on the subject of reasonable force - surely that's precisely what was used? The protesters were told to vacate the room, refused to, and were therefore ejected. It would have been unreasonable force if you had left when told to, or security had used more force than necessary to remove you from the room. Nothing on that video showed any significant evidence of that as far as I can see - if less force had been used the protesters wouldn't have left.
bentate99 3 years ago
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Fuck you pussies, Palestine gets what it deserves... its naive liberals like you that drag down this nation. You should be ashamed.
moomin468 3 years ago
So you think that killing a massive number of Palestinians and accurately targeting places of high civilian density like but not limited to UN installations, schools, and places of worship, is what Palestinians deserve? That is the wish of a Nazi.
arslenian 3 years ago
Ha, what a bunch of oxygen thieves! Mummy and daddy will be so proud.
andystranguk 3 years ago 4
HAHA!
Excellent. Well done to the University.
You are disrupting the education of people who have nothing to do with Gaza. Stop wasting your time with such a moronic protest: if you actually care about the people of Gaza, lobby someone who can actually do something: the government, or go fundraise.
SleepySnooze 3 years ago 4
We have been fundraising - we have raised almost £1,000. We have been lobbying the government, with demo's, petitions and letters. We have also decided to part-take in a peaceful sit-in due to our university's complicity in the arms trade and support for Israel's assault on Gaza as demonstrated by its biased, pro-Israeli pod cast. Know the facts about our actions before you start spouting your misinformed views.
LaSofia 3 years ago
@SleepySnooze lobbying doesn't work the system is corrupt.. the system must fall, and under its own weight and flaws, it will.. this is an example of the brutality of the system at its lesser extreme :-)
BlackNeon9 2 months ago
I express my utmost admiration for your ability to sense human sufferings thousands of miles away from your peaceful lives, and do what you can in your capacity to help the orphaned, the widowed, the aged, the starved, the sick, and the wounded in Gaza.
Not a lot of people have that humanitarian sense, but i shall remind them that they may never know when might they become the victims.
arslenian 3 years ago
well done, guys you are what makes this country great. it's a shame the Uni caan't see this is the same sort of protests that they themselves probably were involved in during APARTIDE SOUTH AFRICA. the situation is no less different to the zionist, apartide regime of israel.
riazh1 3 years ago
More publicity regarding the eviction rather than the reason for the protest......i struggled to find what the protest was regarding.....I agree with Purpletomato....give to the charity.....offer your time to help the charity. Stop whinging and think about how to help rather than waste peoples time..What have you achieved??
clintwitton 3 years ago 2
You can bandage the victim under the wheel, or you can try to jam a spoke in the wheel itself. I leave it to you to find out who it was who said that, and it what context.
Charitable giving, whilst necessary and helpful, wasn't the answer to apartheid, and it's not the answer here.
domfox 3 years ago
what have we achieved?
in doing this we raised a lot of money for medical aid for palestine and kept the topic on the agenda. if we had been successful we would have raised even more aid. many people take a cynical stance implying that we somehow did this for ourselves or because we just enjoy protesting? doing this was not fun, it was hard work and we have risked disciplinary action in doing it. I dont expect everyone to get involved but dont see why people view what we did with such hatred.
enripaul 3 years ago
You're right, it was your sit-in that kept this international topic on the agenda. And sitting around in a room with friends listening to talks and making podcasts does sound horrendous. And how brave to risk disciplinary action - but wouldn't you just have protested against that as the next step?! I completely support the fundraising but the methods you used were selfish, divisive and unhelpful.
mtrscorpio 3 years ago
selfish, unhelpful how? giving up our time to raise money for gaza, thats not a selfish unhelpful act. didnt get ur point about 'protesting about that as the next step', protesting isnt fun. it wasnt horrendous, just boring. and yes we did help to keep it on the agenda, we got the mp etc coming to give speaches to packed out crowds on the issue.
enripaul 3 years ago
All this video needs is someone in the background shouting 'help, help, I'm being repressed!'
yourapocalypse 3 years ago 2
if theyre not happy with the university why dont they just leave? rather than waste the effort of the security and the police.
the argument that it was peaceful is flawed by the fact that they illegally occupied a lecture theatre
i myself was at the university, at a halls of residence and didnt hear about the protest until a message appeared on the portal website showing the pathetic attempts made by these 'protesters' on tuesday.
outlawtorn123 3 years ago 4
our aim is to change the university and force it to help palestinians not to leave and allow it to do what it wants. We actually got on very well with security and i think they regretted having to do this. I think them and the police are probably more pissed off at the uni for forcing them to react in such a way than they are at us.
enripaul 3 years ago
"our aim is to change the university and force it to help palestinians not to leave and allow it to do what it wants."
Why? Why is it the university's responsibility? Why don't you do something useful like petition MPs instead, or raise money for aid yourself rather than trying to get another organisation to pay for it for you?
ChrisEmerson 3 years ago
We have been petitioning and writing to MPs, we have raised money for MAP and the DEC appeal. We also want the University to take responsibilty in its capacity as an educational instition. The University of Nottingham makes Millions of pounds from arms companies, the least it can do is offer scholarships to Palestinians.
LaSofia 3 years ago
My belt broke at the weekend, I think I was oppressing myself.
yourapocalypse 3 years ago
Maybe it was a non-fairtrade belt and the security guys broke it out of principle?
mtrscorpio 3 years ago
Surely if the belt broke, much less than reasonable force was being used, because it still wasn't enough to move the person. Any idiot can figure this out, surely?
Well done for proving that the force they used was entirely reasonable.
ChrisEmerson 3 years ago
pffff wow you people are the weakest most crybaby protesters ever i can hear people laughing in the back round . save your tears for real abuse you crybabies I have seen littel kids who play rougher than that ha ha ha
mikesternberg 3 years ago
So what exactly is the point of this protest? What were you hoping to achieve? So if you had got your wishes and the university made a statement condemning Israel - who exactly is that helping? A statement by a university thousands of miles away isn't going to significantly improve the situation of a homeless orphaned child from Gaza, is it? If you care that much, donate to Gaza Aid Charities, don't waste your time with pointless activities like this.
PurpleTomato1 3 years ago 4
We donated hundreds of pounds to Gaza charities as well as protesting about the University of Nottingham's complicity in the arms trade and support for Israel's actions.
LaSofia 3 years ago
And what I think is shameful is the fact that you lot drew valuable police and security resources away from their role of protecting the students of the University and the people of the Nottingham from real crime and forced them to focus their resources on your pathetic, and at that stage unlawful, resistance to removal.
CuriousJ80 3 years ago
Sounds like totally reasonable force to me. You refused to move, they dragged you out in the way that you effectively drag out resisting people. I'd love to see a trial where you lot try and back-up your claims of assault - "So, what evidence do you have?" "Erm... a belt" "A belt?" "It's broken".
CuriousJ80 3 years ago
Its a shame much of the footage was lost to the security guards deleting it. I guess the got what they wanted, us out, names and ID numbers and hardly any material to prove their outrageous behaviour!
hackfresse2011 3 years ago