@HellRehab This is exactly what happens any time you show these "truth" idiots proof of anything. It's the same thing with the ones that really don't have a clue about any physics or structural engineering, but it's generally the same thing across. They never get off it, let it go, admit defeat. There's an idiot right on this page saying "this is possibly damage control propaganda." Ugh enough already, this is downright insane and disrespectful to extract this much from victims.
This has nothing to do with truthers or any rational person with some rational doubts. Let's make that clear and not discredit serious people who simply doesn't understand why there's no rests of Flight93, WTC7 was either destroyed by simple fire or pulled in an imposible time lapse of a few hours, or why among dozens of cameras there's just one video of the plane hitting the Pentagon.
Is it that weird to ask for more public, independent investigation for the biggest attack in History?
@albers You said, "Is it that weird to ask for more public, independent investigation for the biggest attack in History?"
Go ahead and do it. If you believe that the Government was in on 9-11, why would you trust them to do an honest investigation? Did you forget about 'Sandy Burglar' planting evidence into the National Archives or Jamie Gorelick misleading other members of the 911 Commission?
Raise the money, do the tests and spread the word. That's what John Wayne would do.
It's very possible that this entire discussion was produced as damage control propaganda to support the official lie. The long-haired, overweight, jewelry wearing "conspiracy theorist" is reminiscent of Michael Moore. His function is to, by his very appearance, arouse suspicion against anything he might say. They can't keep evidence from coming out, so they release in ways where it is least likely to be believed. Cutting edge disinformation technique.
He went there dressed that way in order to state his opinion. They also had Dylan Avery, Dick Gage, Jason Bermas...and all the truthers that would state their view point.
This is a liberetarian show. It is not 'nwo". They had one guy interrupt the shit out of mark roberts in order to balance the debate against Dick Gage. You should watch these with a more critical eye and not the eyes that tell you that everything including the way someone chooses to dress is a conspiracy.
of course it's a lousy quality film only not because it i's from a helicopter. Helicopterfilm is usually excellent but because it's not from a camera at all it is a digital rendering of a city. Ace Baker is right.
I got a conspiracy theory for ya. 99% of all conspiracy theorists are pseudo intellectuals who only subscribe to them because they don't require much study and it makes them feel important
It's a truth they don't want you to know.......shhhhhh
Looks like you've fallen prey to "authenticity by stereotype." Congratulations! This form of propaganda was also used by the nazi's. It's also currently being used to discredit a lot of truth seekers.
It's a truth they don't want you to know.......shhhhhh
@R34n1mated On the contrary, it is an argument by observation. Look no further than the "truth obscurer" - sorry - "seeker" on the video. Basing his whole case that a plane never hit the tower on one crummy piece of footage that eliminated detail from a distance, is moronic. You clearly find thinking difficult and so rely on conspiracy theories to convince you that you have access to a truth that's denied to me. So it's a empirically based theory
Actually I believe the guy on the video is in fact, an moron. I do not believe that there were "no planes." That's completely absurd. You are also making assumptions.
@R34n1mated And as for you relating my observation of truth obscurers to Nazi propoganda, this again shows that you don't have a great capacity for thought. Who have I tried to silence with the threat of violence? Which books have I burned? Which intellectuals have I put into concentration camps? Which race have I verminised and tried to eliminate? What music have I banned? What the fuck are you talking about?
You took it a little too far there friend. I never compared you to a nazi, merely that "authenticity by stereotype" was a tactic used by Nazi propaganda Joseph Goebbels. That's it nothing more.
@R34n1mated Just be wary of dropping the Nazi bomb so cavalierly. It's a staple comparison among youtubers whenever someone directs any mild criticism to a group of people, and its a fatuous. I'm not condemning people for what they are, as Goebbels did, I'm condemning them for the stupid things they say. How do you think I'm gonna react when you mention me and the Nazis in the same sentence? It's a provocative comparison my friend. Any whatever, take it easy R34n1mated
@LeBigMacDaddy That should have been "anyway whatever" towards the end there. I try so hard with me spelling too. I need a proof reader just to post on youtube haha. Bon Chance
so you dont think theres a question to be answered?? Oh....
Like MOTIVE? Who BENEFITED? And who had the MEANS? Or are you willing to believe those 'hijackers' were the luckiest craftiest mofos EVER, and most likely---with THAT freakin luck--got to go to heaven and be serviced by 70 hot virgins as a bonus?
@EdgemanLL2 do you not think it very lucky to be not experienced at flying as the 'hijackers' were said to be, and yet manage to defy a superpowers air defence and manage to not only hot their targets in NYC (and the Pentagon) and also bring them and WT7 completely down in a dramatic event that Hollywood dreams about filming?
D0o you notthinking it lucky Silverstein made millions from insuring the WTC against terrorist attack before it actually happened?
@zezt Do you not think it lucky for the neo cons that they had already said pre-9/11 tyhat in order to drive their plans they needed a new pearl harbour and then they got 9/11---do you think they were laughin or cryin when it happened? it WAS lucky for them right?
@EdgemanLL2 whay are you being rude? Any reason? I didn't call YOU a moron--which is fukin rude so why are you so fukin angry when someone is simply trying to ask questions?
Now to what you are saying -what do you mean the 'pearl harbour bullshit'. yopu are claiming it is not real---that that reference was false? I am NOT fukin laughin about 9/11 that is false. You need to cool it and not get all mr angry. you might burst a blood vessel.
@zezt Do you not think it moronic for you to pretend that commercial airliners are somehow forced to, regularly, dogfight their way to destinations against the Air Force?
Do you not think it moronic to pretend a guy who LOST billions, because he intentionally underinsured, and who also lost 10s of bullions in the rebuild somehow is lucky?
@EdgemanLL2 here you are with your fukin insults again. what is the MATTER with you? How could ahnyone have an intelligent discussion about this massive complex even without people like you spittin venom at people who simple question what COULD be propaganda. Do you not believe in propaganda?
Now--I dont get what you mean in your first paragraph.
in the second you claim Silverstein LOST money? OK ---so you say. link me to that pice of info. but no more insults or you can go fuck yourself
these no plane people are there to make the truth movement look completely foolish. i for one am awake and am fully aware that the US gov,t is capable of staging false flag terror. The proof is not in a video but in the documents that have been formulated by those in power, calling for catastrophic catalysts to push a maniacal agenda.
I dont disagree that this was a ruse of the highest order but wether the planes were there or not , people died by the hands of criminal elements in ours and isreal's gov't
The troll writing below as LegPains is Ace 'Faker' Baker, a perp infiltrator scum who appeared in the last few years and was soon exposed as a fraud with a fake history. Now he spends his hours spamvertising his red-herring creed, the misinterpreted work of others, associating it with authentic research and ideas . He's the idiot who faked shooting himself during a radio interview. He's a despicable psychopath with zero sense of right and wrong.And all the fashion flair of a sitcom narc.
Ozzy ban Osbourne is a certified deranged paranoid Psychopath, this guy Lives , eats and breaths 911 constantly all day Long, its a true bona fide Obsession , 911 is his Cult, all of his time, energy and ego are invested in one single solitary event, 911.
Ozzy is sooooo Paranoid , any Mention of Ace Baker and Ozzy is quick to say ' YOU ARE ACE I KNOW IT ' Ozzy is Obviously Mentally Unhinged
' im so dedicated to getting the Truth out about 911 that since that event, ive never kissed a woman or had sex as that would only take away from my time to study 911. The event known as 911 has consumed every fiber and moment of my Life, 911 is my Life , heart and soul and my complete identity is wrapped up in it '
" The Govt. Never lies and always tells the Truth on Everything, i believe the 911 Official story is air tight perfection, every single solitary detail lines up perfectly with their theory and there are NO contradictions, holes or inconsistencies in their story, None, zero , the Govt. is Perfection to me'
how about that statement of yours, care to explain ?
@LegPains you never types those words, but you ARE using internet based sources as your "proof." Hence, you believe it, even if you didnt type it.
However, no one ever said, or asserted "govt never lies."
More MORE of your assertions
1) Its impossible for terrorists to attack a country, if that govt lies
2) America is so loved in the middle east for its inteventionist policies, and support for Israel that it is 100% impossible for anyone from there to hate us.
Buddy , you are an intellectual Lightweight and a halfwit , all you can do is massively insinuate , exaggerate and misquote those who you disagree with and you do it all the time.
You are a Joke and in the tank , its not even possible to have a Rational conversation about this with you as you are ALL emotion and you will do and say anything to protect the Official story
when the messenger is constantly a ranting and raving hate filled Lunatic, than you give me NO choice but to discuss you ! lol
You make yourself part of the discussion and insert yourself into the dialogue due to your Obvious Anger, Resentment, and hate filled rants towards anyone who happens to disagree with you !
all You ever do is misquote and name call anyone that disagrees with you , stop acting like a Coward
@LegPains So, AGAIN unable to discuss the issues, you discuss me instead? Grat minds discuss ideas. Small minds discuss people. Youre very much the latter. =]
NONE of the silly nonsensical irrelevant questions you asked have anything whatsoever to do with the Plane videos, which are the Proof that NO planes were used
@LegLaden. Logical fallacy. Straw man. Swing and a miss.
Burden of proof is on the claimant. YOU claim "its on the internet, it HAS to be true?" YOU claim its impossible for a country to be attacked, if its govt lies? YOU claim the world loves the usa so much, no one could ever want to attack us?
@LegPains - Again with the wacky arab video game nerds and rusty box cutters...
"ok, Defend and prove it"
But you can't even defend your own theory. See the above video: "But it's behind the smoke." No it's not. "But it's behind the logo." Nope. Oh, I see...
Thanks, and i agree this can be maddening if taken too far, i dont have much more Patience for this anymore, i need a break . Im still Amazed These guys actually will sit here and say that they've watched the WTC collapse vids hundreds of times, and it looks like a fire caused collapse to them and that its totally Logical and the videos do NOT resemble in any way, a planned demolition
i realize that for these guys on here its ALL about a vigorous defense of the Offiical govt story regardless of any evidence or details. These guys couldnt care less about what really happened or didnt happen or uncovering more clues.
They are ONLY here to defend the Official story the full 9 yards to the death if necessary . If the Offcial story said that Explosives were used to bring down the wtc ,,,
and we were saying that we believe thats a Lie and that we think it was the intense heat of the Fire that brought them down, THEY would be laughing at us saying
" You morons, you truthers are such idiots, how can you not tell just from the video alone in the manner in how the towers fell that its not explosives ? you guys are brainless truthers , FIRE ? LOL how ridiculous hahaha '
Staying with the wtc collapse as an example, i now realize these vigorous diehard Official story believers are NEVER going to even consider anything else. Im CONVINCED 100 % that if the official story said that a Bigfoot monster weakened the steel using a butter knife the night before 911, these guys would not only believe it completely, but have the same intensity defending it till their death
@LegPains - "Im CONVINCED 100 % that if the official story said that a Bigfoot monster weakened the steel using a butter knife the night before 911"
And I'm 100% convinced that even if a group admitted to the attacks, there were 50 videos and 100 still pictures, thousands of witnesses, parts of planes, radar data, body parts from passengers, calls from the planes, and plane shaped holes, morons on the internet would still deny that there were planes. Oh, wait...
Bottom line is you either have the Normal natural common sense, Logic and basic intelligence to understand when you watch a video of a Building being blown up to pieces in a deliberate action , than it is what it is, or you dont see that.
There is NO in between. You either see it for what it obviously is , or you dont. and if you dont, than NO amount of data, debate, etc is ever going to matter
@LegPains - "Normal natural common sense, Logic and basic intelligence to understand when you watch a video of a Building being blown up to pieces in a deliberate action , than it is what it is, or you dont see that."
Yeah, like when you see 50 videos of a plane hitting a building, you either have the normal basic common sense to understand it, or you don't. This video is about your silly TV fakery theory, not controlled demo.
" When i watch the wtc Collapse videos all i see is a building falling down from the steel giving way due to extreme heat thats it Nothing more Nothing abnormal or suspicious to me with the Manner and speed of the collapse "
there is NOTHING you can Possibly say at that time, You're NEVER in a million years going to change their minds, just have to walk away
Ozzy is a spineless gutless coward who refuses to speak about the specifics of 911, all Poor Ozzy can do is spew more venom, and vile anger driven hate
Ozzy ban Osbourne ? CRAZY TRAIN ! Ozzy is easily intellectually dominated on this subject
Ace Baker's new account is LegPains. He opened this after his LifeRegenRevolution account was closed. He's still trolling the same videos, making the same dumb arguments, and acting like people are interest in the bullshit he has to say. Don't fall for it.
ACEBAKER911 debunk the witnesses who did see a plane or do you think they work for the NWO?(4months ago) If some documentaries are the only thing that counts as your evidence then you have to back up that claim with linking evidence. Evidence doesn't just fall on your lap acehippybaker911 it requires effort, yet you don't have extraordinary evidence. Just remember this the 19 hijackers were in one war find it and that will answer your question even though you believe they are video game nerds
"This is a bad piece of fottage. The airplane dissappears behind the logo..." Right. As if the TV company did not record the raw video without craphics also. LOL! Excuses, excuses...
This entire 911 Wtc event is totally ridiculous and absurd.
19 Arab Video Game Nerds waving box cutters hijack 2 planes, fly them uninterrupted or intercepted by sight and instruments alone with NO help from the faa, and do so with pinpoint precision into each bldg.
BOTH planes neatly fit inside the bldgs perfectly..... but we cant examine the so called planes and pull them out because OH NO both bldgs disintigrate into dust in a few seconds ?
The helicopter dissapears because of motion blur due to the movement of the camera, not because of it getting too small that fast. The plane is almost as wide as one tower, such detail would NOT be "filtered out" in a full 640x480 image. Even tho interlaced.
Would you kids please keep it down?!!! WTF are people still buying the official story for? Maybe the govt's magic bullet brought down the Twin Towers.
You do realize there were terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in a smaller degree before 9/11. And I'm not even counting the first bomb attack on the WTC in 1993.
Do you have any Explanation why on ALL of the various 911 Plane Videos, that NONE of them have any Audio collision sounds of the Plane impacting the Bldg as it 1st Makes contact ?
There are Explosion sounds INSIDE the Bldg, but on None of the vids do we hear ANY physical impact sounds whatsoever when the Plane makes contact with the Bldg.
What is your Explanation of that, and why is it Considered Crazy or Weird to ask that ?
Most of the Hijackers exist only in your dreams, its pure fantasy . Fact remains that NO planes were used its irrefutable and undeniable based on Objective clear thinking, Logic and intelligence.
Only a gullible brainwashed Moron would believe in the ' plane theory
So they probably didn't play the video cause it sucked. And what the hell would no plane prove anyways? Ha Ha. Like it appeared out of thin air or something? The plane hit the fucking building. No question about that. lol.
As far as Wright's claim that Fox used "low quality ENG lenses" that's wrong. Mainstream news is always upgrading the gear, they can afford to. I have twenty years of experience in film and television and I would guess that the lens on that chopper was the best Fujinon or Canon had to offer in 2001 and the Digi-Beta camera was the same. Ace is right the plane(s) are fake.
So the camera zooms out by about 10% and the chopper completely disappears - what the guy with the glasses failed to talk about was that the camera also MOVES when it zooms out, which is more than enough to blur the tiny chopper out of existence - which kinda makes the argument for his refutation crumble away - not that im saying anyone is right or wrong about video fakery - but he has decided that Ace Baker is wrong for the wrong reason - im not a video expert and even i can fucking see that
...but Im about to go o work so Ill leave it with this one point just now. One of Steves main arguements was that the plane didnt match the speed a plane wouldve been going in a constant speed. However as Ace pointed out, it wouldve made sense to put an 'ease out' as we call it in editing, (speed slows down at end). Despite this fact Steve repeated his claim in part 2. Also while as a cameraman I know about AGC (Gain control,) Im not buying that it was this which caused the fade to black.
While I agree 9/11 was pretty clearly an inside job, the no plane theory is simply ridiculous dude. If your looking to convince people I think your time would be far better spent on the pentagon and wtc7.
By the way, its not like the inside job theory hinges on no planes.
I thought the same as you. A buddy told me about NPT and I told him he was nuts. So I watched September clues. Still didnt believe it. It was only when I embraced the possibility I was wrong about NPT that I was able to see just how dodgy the videos were. Look at the research from an unbiased standpoint. Almost everyone thought they had seen planes. We all trust the TV dont we?!?!?!? And I know inside job doesnt hang on no plane theory, Im just not afraid of asking the question.
To normal people you look just as ridiculous with your Pentagon theories and your WTC7 theories as you think that he looks with his no plane theories. You are ALL nuts.
why do u spend so much time trying to debunk 9/11, if u dont believe it, watch some cartoons.. or, go find a hot ho to bang, or better yet, read the bible if thats your thing. But why are you so obsessed with telling people 9/11 was not done by a group of power elite.
Erm because there's no evidence to support that it was done by "the power elite", and that some people actually care about history is retold, and that lies (like there was no plane at the pentagon) is pretty disrespectful to those who died on that plane and their families.
is that you can come back with? Insulting my mother? Hilarious. Which ten year old did you pay to think that up ,you complete fucking moron. Go back to your crack pipe and leave the thinking to other people
shutafuck up, my question was to jeff may, not ur queer self. Faggot, its a sin just to read ur gay words... Don't you realize your the only disrespecting the people who died on 9/11, specially if you continue to claim a plane crashed at the pentagon. You're perpetuating lies about who really murdered the people in NY. Now go save your whore mother from her hooking.. And fuck off, ive got work to do.
Yeah, and my question was to you - you ignorant retard. There's plenty of evidence that a plane hit the pentagon (debris, bodies, hundreds of impartial eye-witnesses), but you're too busy mindlessly regurgitating the horseshit by other 9/11 truthers, like all the other brainless theorists. "Ive got work to do" - like I said before, get back to your crack pipe.
BTW, maybe you should stop seeing prostitutes - you seem a bit obsessed.
and another thing about prostitutes. Your mother is one.
And what question?? the one about my come back? what does that have to do with the video. Your original comment to me was answering a question i never asked you... my question was to jeffmay's obssesed ass, his whole channel is about debunking 9/11. Your question was about me calling your mom a whore... Your an idiot, dont answer questions not posted for you. And get your mom off the hooking.. its ridiculous at her age
You're reply on a public thread which is open to everone - so dont start crying when other people take issue with your nonsensical bollocks. You want to ask him a question? Send him a private message you moron. Oh, and the mother thing? Really embarrassing I actually pity you. You obviously have the intelligence and social graces of a diseased chimp.
My original question to you was that the "power elite" didnt cause 9/11 - as the evidence shown. Sorry your memory doesnt go back 5 minutes
my memory goes back 3 trillion years, im the king of the fairies you faggot. No one cares what you got to say, yours moms a power elite.. what you got to say about that? fucking globalist scum
and you made a statement regarding the power elites involvement in 9/11... no question was made. Your fucking high aint you, you cant even remember you never asked me a question; you only made a statement in response to my question to that obsessed communist JeffMay
"Im the king of the faries" - ....."your mums a power elite" - I think its time for you to take your tablets Cleatus, your medication has obviously worn off.
Ill await your intelligent reply of "your mum's worn off" - or something equally hilarious
im still waiting for you to show me where you asked me a question about 9/11... since you have such great memory, you must remember what your question was. All i read before was a pure statement to my question directed to Jeff May
And yeah your moms pussy is worn out; usually is on long time hookers. DUH!
AND, heres a real question directed to you MrDarwin1859... WHY DO U CARE ABOUT 9/11 IF YOU ARE FUCKING BRITISH.. FUCK OFF AND WORRY ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY ASSHOLE.. GO PROTEST THE QUEEN BEING UGLY AND NOT GETTING PLASTIC SURGERY FOR IT
What a fucking moron you are. The fact that british troops have been in Afganistan for the past 7 years and iraq for six seems to have slipped your memory. What a stupid point. Why do people care about third world people dying if it not in their country?
Also, over 60 british people died in the WTC. But getting fact straight isnt your thing though isnt it. Ok, ill go to the queen - only if you go to the president to complain about being a bunch of obese, celebrity obsessed, uncultured idiots
go to the video. It prooves everything. And seriously, no american anywhere in the world, even those vacationing and smoking joints in jamaica is grateful for ur terrorist invasion of iraq, we just laugh at you, and use your queens ugly face as halloween masks. FUCK ENGLAND
"even those vacationing and smoking joints in jamaica is grateful for ur terrorist invasion of iraq" WTF??
Could you be any more of a moron? Would that be the terrorist invasion of Iraq lead by the USA? You asked what this has to do with the UK, and I told you why. Now you send some nonsensical bullshit about "smoking joints in Jamaica". Its just embarrasing!
You laugh at us? Well the world laughs at you, my retarded friend. Just search "dumb american" on youtube. Try and spot yourself
Since you have reverted back to you elementary school name calling, and have stopped writing anything remotely relevant, Ill assume that last comment was your way of admitting defeat. Well done.....you brainless moron
im still waiting for that alleged question you made to me... it doesnt exist does it. All you've got left is your love for your queen. While i have jamaican vacations and joint... who really is drowned in defeat??
and its retarded that you would claim to care about 9/11 because of troops in iraq. Its on record by BUSH's statements that Iraq was invaded for weapons of mass destruction.. nothing to do with 9/11... who again i ask you, why do you care about 9/11?
AND IM STILL WAITING TO SEE YOUR QUESTION WITHIN THE FIRST COMMENT YOU CLAIM YOU MADE TO ME.. it never happened did it... fucking idiot. Stop sniffing glue made from the queens vagina secretions
Did this fucktard just say the number one piece of evidence relating to 9/11 is this grainy video clip?
God people are stupid.
HellRehab 1 month ago
@HellRehab This is exactly what happens any time you show these "truth" idiots proof of anything. It's the same thing with the ones that really don't have a clue about any physics or structural engineering, but it's generally the same thing across. They never get off it, let it go, admit defeat. There's an idiot right on this page saying "this is possibly damage control propaganda." Ugh enough already, this is downright insane and disrespectful to extract this much from victims.
WallStwizkid 1 month ago
if hes such a truther why would he be so focused on this one idea? ha he must be fuckin retarded
hutchinson1995 4 months ago
This has nothing to do with truthers or any rational person with some rational doubts. Let's make that clear and not discredit serious people who simply doesn't understand why there's no rests of Flight93, WTC7 was either destroyed by simple fire or pulled in an imposible time lapse of a few hours, or why among dozens of cameras there's just one video of the plane hitting the Pentagon.
Is it that weird to ask for more public, independent investigation for the biggest attack in History?
albers 5 months ago
@albers You said, "Is it that weird to ask for more public, independent investigation for the biggest attack in History?"
Go ahead and do it. If you believe that the Government was in on 9-11, why would you trust them to do an honest investigation? Did you forget about 'Sandy Burglar' planting evidence into the National Archives or Jamie Gorelick misleading other members of the 911 Commission?
Raise the money, do the tests and spread the word. That's what John Wayne would do.
fascistcat 4 months ago
It's very possible that this entire discussion was produced as damage control propaganda to support the official lie. The long-haired, overweight, jewelry wearing "conspiracy theorist" is reminiscent of Michael Moore. His function is to, by his very appearance, arouse suspicion against anything he might say. They can't keep evidence from coming out, so they release in ways where it is least likely to be believed. Cutting edge disinformation technique.
txsray1 8 months ago
@txsray1
LMFAO!
He went there dressed that way in order to state his opinion. They also had Dylan Avery, Dick Gage, Jason Bermas...and all the truthers that would state their view point.
This is a liberetarian show. It is not 'nwo". They had one guy interrupt the shit out of mark roberts in order to balance the debate against Dick Gage. You should watch these with a more critical eye and not the eyes that tell you that everything including the way someone chooses to dress is a conspiracy.
ZhugeNaut 6 months ago
If the plane was below the threshold to be visible in its approach, it would still be below the threshold at the point of impact.
The "expert's " goal is clearly to discredit the evidence, not to analyze it objectively.
txsray1 8 months ago
he does not get owned.. no way..
slcschaser 10 months ago
What on earth is he trying to imply? What are we supposed to conclude? That there was no second plane?
tmcthree 10 months ago
@tmcthree ignore him, watch /watch?v=awy8cmcuBlk&feature=related
they will explain it =]
cause, your right... like there WAS a plane, we SAW it, its irelevant if it was on the frame or not.
smiletheproblemsaway 9 months ago
I actually agree with this ace baker dude wether the footage was correct or not it was still taken effects won't hide the truth.
AwesomeChannelTV 10 months ago
u know planes travells over 500mphs an hour right sir.
mejus16 11 months ago
No plane in the wide shot? Dude!!! With crappy re compressed video like this you wouldn't see the Hindenburg!!
And if your lousy low res video doesn't show a plane 50 other angles DO!!
Complete fucking nonsense!!!
Stick to your key boards Mr Ace Baker!! You're not joining Mensa anytime soon!!
roquefortfiles 11 months ago
doesnt matter if there were planes or not its still an inside job.
1370rivera 11 months ago
@apatriotofusa
unfortunately for you, many, many new yorkers saw these planes. There is also no solid evidence to prove your ridiculous claims.
R34n1mated 1 year ago
@apatriotofusa You sir, need to go to hell.
consular3 1 year ago
WE KNOW THERE WERE PLANES DUMB FUCK 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB WITH PLANES.
juneausucks 1 year ago
@apatriotofusa there are no words for how dumb you are
daveygravey123456 1 year ago
3:56, that DOES NOT LOOK like a helicopter. That looks like a UFO if I ever saw one and HAS THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS as a UFO.
BoxingPride 1 year ago
@BoxingPride
how can something have the characteristics of an unidentified flying object, key word here "unidentified"
R34n1mated 1 year ago
of course it's a lousy quality film only not because it i's from a helicopter. Helicopterfilm is usually excellent but because it's not from a camera at all it is a digital rendering of a city. Ace Baker is right.
losability 1 year ago
I got a conspiracy theory for ya. 99% of all conspiracy theorists are pseudo intellectuals who only subscribe to them because they don't require much study and it makes them feel important
It's a truth they don't want you to know.......shhhhhh
LeBigMacDaddy 1 year ago
@LeBigMacDaddy Its not a theory. Its a fact!
Everyone knows it. Except the kookspiritards. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@LeBigMacDaddy
Looks like you've fallen prey to "authenticity by stereotype." Congratulations! This form of propaganda was also used by the nazi's. It's also currently being used to discredit a lot of truth seekers.
It's a truth they don't want you to know.......shhhhhh
R34n1mated 1 year ago
@R34n1mated On the contrary, it is an argument by observation. Look no further than the "truth obscurer" - sorry - "seeker" on the video. Basing his whole case that a plane never hit the tower on one crummy piece of footage that eliminated detail from a distance, is moronic. You clearly find thinking difficult and so rely on conspiracy theories to convince you that you have access to a truth that's denied to me. So it's a empirically based theory
LeBigMacDaddy 1 year ago
@LeBigMacDaddy
Actually I believe the guy on the video is in fact, an moron. I do not believe that there were "no planes." That's completely absurd. You are also making assumptions.
R34n1mated 1 year ago
@R34n1mated And as for you relating my observation of truth obscurers to Nazi propoganda, this again shows that you don't have a great capacity for thought. Who have I tried to silence with the threat of violence? Which books have I burned? Which intellectuals have I put into concentration camps? Which race have I verminised and tried to eliminate? What music have I banned? What the fuck are you talking about?
LeBigMacDaddy 1 year ago
@LeBigMacDaddy
You took it a little too far there friend. I never compared you to a nazi, merely that "authenticity by stereotype" was a tactic used by Nazi propaganda Joseph Goebbels. That's it nothing more.
R34n1mated 1 year ago
@R34n1mated Just be wary of dropping the Nazi bomb so cavalierly. It's a staple comparison among youtubers whenever someone directs any mild criticism to a group of people, and its a fatuous. I'm not condemning people for what they are, as Goebbels did, I'm condemning them for the stupid things they say. How do you think I'm gonna react when you mention me and the Nazis in the same sentence? It's a provocative comparison my friend. Any whatever, take it easy R34n1mated
LeBigMacDaddy 1 year ago
@LeBigMacDaddy That should have been "anyway whatever" towards the end there. I try so hard with me spelling too. I need a proof reader just to post on youtube haha. Bon Chance
LeBigMacDaddy 1 year ago
so you dont think theres a question to be answered?? Oh....
Like MOTIVE? Who BENEFITED? And who had the MEANS? Or are you willing to believe those 'hijackers' were the luckiest craftiest mofos EVER, and most likely---with THAT freakin luck--got to go to heaven and be serviced by 70 hot virgins as a bonus?
zezt 1 year ago
@zezt Its hardly crafty or lucky, to crash an airplane. Nor does it take much luck to hijack one. Happens kinda frequently in the terrorist world.
Who benefitted? Easy. Alex Jones, Loose Change kids, and the kookspiracy industrial complex.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 do you not think it very lucky to be not experienced at flying as the 'hijackers' were said to be, and yet manage to defy a superpowers air defence and manage to not only hot their targets in NYC (and the Pentagon) and also bring them and WT7 completely down in a dramatic event that Hollywood dreams about filming?
D0o you notthinking it lucky Silverstein made millions from insuring the WTC against terrorist attack before it actually happened?
zezt 1 year ago
@zezt Do you not think it lucky for the neo cons that they had already said pre-9/11 tyhat in order to drive their plans they needed a new pearl harbour and then they got 9/11---do you think they were laughin or cryin when it happened? it WAS lucky for them right?
zezt 1 year ago
@zezt Do you not find it moronic to quote the "pearl harbor" bullshit, when youve never actually read the paper that produced it?
I certainly find it moronic.
Moron.
The only laughing about 911 is you and your ilk, Achmed. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 whay are you being rude? Any reason? I didn't call YOU a moron--which is fukin rude so why are you so fukin angry when someone is simply trying to ask questions?
Now to what you are saying -what do you mean the 'pearl harbour bullshit'. yopu are claiming it is not real---that that reference was false? I am NOT fukin laughin about 9/11 that is false. You need to cool it and not get all mr angry. you might burst a blood vessel.
zezt 1 year ago
@zezt I msorry .LYING to someone when you peddle bullshit ( that no one with a room-temp IQ would ever believe) is itself an insult.
If youre going to peddle insults urself, dont whine when you get it back.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@zezt Do you not think it moronic for you to pretend that commercial airliners are somehow forced to, regularly, dogfight their way to destinations against the Air Force?
Do you not think it moronic to pretend a guy who LOST billions, because he intentionally underinsured, and who also lost 10s of bullions in the rebuild somehow is lucky?
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 here you are with your fukin insults again. what is the MATTER with you? How could ahnyone have an intelligent discussion about this massive complex even without people like you spittin venom at people who simple question what COULD be propaganda. Do you not believe in propaganda?
Now--I dont get what you mean in your first paragraph.
in the second you claim Silverstein LOST money? OK ---so you say. link me to that pice of info. but no more insults or you can go fuck yourself
zezt 1 year ago
@zezt Cut the bullshit son. I was born on a Friday, but it wasnt last Friday.
Youre INCAPABLE of intelligent discussion. Even the bare, minimum intellect it takes to breathe would exclude someone from the comments you made.
Notably, you refused to REFUTE the points so eloquently made. You instead whine about me! LMGDAO!!!!!
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 so that's no then
zezt 1 year ago
@zezt Correct. its a no. People like you who lie and insult have no business demanding intelligent discussions, ur incapable. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 Hahahahahaha
3133123 1 year ago
Ace Baker spreads dis-information on purpose.
mcnowski 1 year ago
... Planes were fake, and the victims were fake.
Go read "Operations Northwoods", nobody dies.
MQ1611 1 year ago
@MQ1611 Why don't you tell my cousin he's fake you fucking fuck
WhtMike2006 1 year ago
@MQ1611
Please put the crack pipe down and return to reality.
Thanks
KeyGuy1967 1 year ago
Haha there were planes on 911 the real question is were they military or remote controlled
JGH8sDaDebunkerz 1 year ago
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TrutherD1 1 year ago
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TrutherD1 1 year ago
these no plane people are there to make the truth movement look completely foolish. i for one am awake and am fully aware that the US gov,t is capable of staging false flag terror. The proof is not in a video but in the documents that have been formulated by those in power, calling for catastrophic catalysts to push a maniacal agenda.
tyrannyresponseteam1 1 year ago
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@tyrannyresponseteam1
Before you make up your mind watch these 1st
911 PASSENGERS FICTITIOUS
SEPTEMBER CLUES
911 TABOO
JOHN LEAR 911
THEORY OF GHOSTPLANE
WHERE ARE THE PASSENGERS
LegPains 1 year ago
@LegPains
I dont disagree that this was a ruse of the highest order but wether the planes were there or not , people died by the hands of criminal elements in ours and isreal's gov't
tyrannyresponseteam1 1 year ago
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@tyrannyresponseteam1
watch these vids
911 PASSENGERS FICTITIOUS
WHERE ARE THE PASSENGERS
JOHN LEAR 911
THEORY OF GHOSTPLANE
911 TABOO
SEPTEMBER CLUES
CONTINUOUS PIECES 9/11 V2
LegPains 1 year ago
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"no plane theory"
TrutherD1 1 year ago
Ehh....baker is a nut-sac....lol
shanquilla562 1 year ago
@shanquilla562
ehhhh 911 was NOT caused simply by 19 arab video game nerds waving rusty box cutters, ehhhhh that official govt story is a hoax and a laughable joke
its asinine, absurd and completely ridiculous ! its a story meant for gullible naive children like you, Not free thinking objective intelligent adults
ehhhhhh
LegPains 1 year ago
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DINGLEtheBERRY 1 year ago
The troll writing below as LegPains is Ace 'Faker' Baker, a perp infiltrator scum who appeared in the last few years and was soon exposed as a fraud with a fake history. Now he spends his hours spamvertising his red-herring creed, the misinterpreted work of others, associating it with authentic research and ideas . He's the idiot who faked shooting himself during a radio interview. He's a despicable psychopath with zero sense of right and wrong.And all the fashion flair of a sitcom narc.
OzzybanOswald 1 year ago
@OzzybanOswald
Ozzy ban Osbourne is a certified deranged paranoid Psychopath, this guy Lives , eats and breaths 911 constantly all day Long, its a true bona fide Obsession , 911 is his Cult, all of his time, energy and ego are invested in one single solitary event, 911.
Ozzy is sooooo Paranoid , any Mention of Ace Baker and Ozzy is quick to say ' YOU ARE ACE I KNOW IT ' Ozzy is Obviously Mentally Unhinged
LegPains 1 year ago
@OzzybanOswald
direct quote from Ozzy himself
' im so dedicated to getting the Truth out about 911 that since that event, ive never kissed a woman or had sex as that would only take away from my time to study 911. The event known as 911 has consumed every fiber and moment of my Life, 911 is my Life , heart and soul and my complete identity is wrapped up in it '
How sad is this guy ! he has NO life
LegPains 1 year ago
@LegPains
Ace Baker is my ass gnat. What a fag.
OzzybanOswald 1 year ago
@OzzybanOswald
so which Ozzy Osbourne album is your favorite ?
Bark at the Moon
LegPains 1 year ago
@OzzybanOswald
watch
SEPTEMBER CLUES
that video series shows the Truth and has the Facts
LegPains 1 year ago
@LegPains "I saw it on the internet, so it has to be true?" Are you fuxing serious?
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
i never said that, how about your assertion that
" The Govt. Never lies and always tells the Truth on Everything, i believe the 911 Official story is air tight perfection, every single solitary detail lines up perfectly with their theory and there are NO contradictions, holes or inconsistencies in their story, None, zero , the Govt. is Perfection to me'
how about that statement of yours, care to explain ?
LegPains 1 year ago
@LegPains you never types those words, but you ARE using internet based sources as your "proof." Hence, you believe it, even if you didnt type it.
However, no one ever said, or asserted "govt never lies."
More MORE of your assertions
1) Its impossible for terrorists to attack a country, if that govt lies
2) America is so loved in the middle east for its inteventionist policies, and support for Israel that it is 100% impossible for anyone from there to hate us.
Good luck with those. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
LOL
Buddy , you are an intellectual Lightweight and a halfwit , all you can do is massively insinuate , exaggerate and misquote those who you disagree with and you do it all the time.
You are a Joke and in the tank , its not even possible to have a Rational conversation about this with you as you are ALL emotion and you will do and say anything to protect the Official story
You are Brainwashed
LegPains 1 year ago
@LegPains So, I discuss issues, and you discuss me? Yep. Thats me being the lightweight all right. LMAO!!!!
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
when the messenger is constantly a ranting and raving hate filled Lunatic, than you give me NO choice but to discuss you ! lol
You make yourself part of the discussion and insert yourself into the dialogue due to your Obvious Anger, Resentment, and hate filled rants towards anyone who happens to disagree with you !
all You ever do is misquote and name call anyone that disagrees with you , stop acting like a Coward
LegPains 1 year ago
@LegPains So, AGAIN unable to discuss the issues, you discuss me instead? Grat minds discuss ideas. Small minds discuss people. Youre very much the latter. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
' Grat minds discuss ideas small minds discuss people, youre the latter '
LOL all this from an uneducated buffoon who not only knows absolutely NOTHING about 911, but cant even spell the word Great
You are a Joke and all you do is insult anyone who disagrees with you, fact is you are a gutless intellectual lightweight
LegPains 1 year ago
@LegPains OK, more discussing me. Got it. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
OK more of you going in circles, repeating yourself with the same nonsense over and over and never discussing the specifics of 911
got it ; )
LegPains 1 year ago
@LegPains More aboyt me? HAHAHAHA Edge wins.
Cant defend your premise?
1) its on the internet, so its gotta be true?
2) its impossible for a country to be attacked, if its govt lies all the time?
3) Everyone in the middle east loves the US, and could never attack us?
I dont blame you for focusing on me. YOUR claims fell apart so quickly! HAHAHAHA Edge wins
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
NONE of the silly nonsensical irrelevant questions you asked have anything whatsoever to do with the Plane videos, which are the Proof that NO planes were used
LegPains 1 year ago
@Achmed. so you can defend your premise? PROVING you admit to the lie. No plains = no BRAINS!!! hahahaha
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
911 was solely due to 19 Wacky Arab Video game nerds waving rusty box cutters and thats it end of story case closed ?
ok, Defend and prove it
LegPains 1 year ago
@LegLaden. Logical fallacy. Straw man. Swing and a miss.
Burden of proof is on the claimant. YOU claim "its on the internet, it HAS to be true?" YOU claim its impossible for a country to be attacked, if its govt lies? YOU claim the world loves the usa so much, no one could ever want to attack us?
Thats for YOU ti prove, retard.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@LegPains - Again with the wacky arab video game nerds and rusty box cutters...
"ok, Defend and prove it"
But you can't even defend your own theory. See the above video: "But it's behind the smoke." No it's not. "But it's behind the logo." Nope. Oh, I see...
Miko5000 1 year ago
@LegPains Seriously... they'll go on for like 12 hours a day. At some point you just gotta give up and wish them away. Strangely, it works. :D
TrutherD1 1 year ago
@TrutherD1
Thanks, and i agree this can be maddening if taken too far, i dont have much more Patience for this anymore, i need a break . Im still Amazed These guys actually will sit here and say that they've watched the WTC collapse vids hundreds of times, and it looks like a fire caused collapse to them and that its totally Logical and the videos do NOT resemble in any way, a planned demolition
LegPains 1 year ago
@TrutherD1
i realize that for these guys on here its ALL about a vigorous defense of the Offiical govt story regardless of any evidence or details. These guys couldnt care less about what really happened or didnt happen or uncovering more clues.
They are ONLY here to defend the Official story the full 9 yards to the death if necessary . If the Offcial story said that Explosives were used to bring down the wtc ,,,
LegPains 1 year ago
@TrutherD1
and we were saying that we believe thats a Lie and that we think it was the intense heat of the Fire that brought them down, THEY would be laughing at us saying
" You morons, you truthers are such idiots, how can you not tell just from the video alone in the manner in how the towers fell that its not explosives ? you guys are brainless truthers , FIRE ? LOL how ridiculous hahaha '
its a total waste of time
LegPains 1 year ago
@TrutherD1
Staying with the wtc collapse as an example, i now realize these vigorous diehard Official story believers are NEVER going to even consider anything else. Im CONVINCED 100 % that if the official story said that a Bigfoot monster weakened the steel using a butter knife the night before 911, these guys would not only believe it completely, but have the same intensity defending it till their death
its a no win
LegPains 1 year ago
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@LegPains - "Im CONVINCED 100 % that if the official story said that a Bigfoot monster weakened the steel using a butter knife the night before 911"
And I'm 100% convinced that even if a group admitted to the attacks, there were 50 videos and 100 still pictures, thousands of witnesses, parts of planes, radar data, body parts from passengers, calls from the planes, and plane shaped holes, morons on the internet would still deny that there were planes. Oh, wait...
nobraintheory 1 year ago
@TrutherD1
Bottom line is you either have the Normal natural common sense, Logic and basic intelligence to understand when you watch a video of a Building being blown up to pieces in a deliberate action , than it is what it is, or you dont see that.
There is NO in between. You either see it for what it obviously is , or you dont. and if you dont, than NO amount of data, debate, etc is ever going to matter
LegPains 1 year ago
@LegPains - "Normal natural common sense, Logic and basic intelligence to understand when you watch a video of a Building being blown up to pieces in a deliberate action , than it is what it is, or you dont see that."
Yeah, like when you see 50 videos of a plane hitting a building, you either have the normal basic common sense to understand it, or you don't. This video is about your silly TV fakery theory, not controlled demo.
nobraintheory 1 year ago
@TrutherD1
As 1 official story believer said to me
" When i watch the wtc Collapse videos all i see is a building falling down from the steel giving way due to extreme heat thats it Nothing more Nothing abnormal or suspicious to me with the Manner and speed of the collapse "
there is NOTHING you can Possibly say at that time, You're NEVER in a million years going to change their minds, just have to walk away
LegPains 1 year ago
Ace Baker is Ronald Wieck's cousin. This "debate" is a staged farce. They're shill cohorts.
OzzybanOswald 1 year ago
@OzzybanOswald
Ozzy is a spineless gutless coward who refuses to speak about the specifics of 911, all Poor Ozzy can do is spew more venom, and vile anger driven hate
Ozzy ban Osbourne ? CRAZY TRAIN ! Ozzy is easily intellectually dominated on this subject
LegPains 1 year ago
@OzzybanOswald
Ace Baker is as much Wiecks cousin as you are Steve Wrights Father
Ozzy, you asinine moron, you paranoid desperate pathetic stooge ! You are such a Lying scum bag piece of shit
Watch
september clues, you might learn something
LegPains 1 year ago
Ace Baker's new account is LegPains. He opened this after his LifeRegenRevolution account was closed. He's still trolling the same videos, making the same dumb arguments, and acting like people are interest in the bullshit he has to say. Don't fall for it.
nobraintheory 1 year ago
mr baker your straightjacket is ready
Obelisk2290 1 year ago
@Obelisk2290
watch
THEORY OF GHOSTPLANE
LegPains 1 year ago
I don't get it - the description of this video says "ace baker's number 1 fakery theory gets shafted" - what part is that??
CokeSupply 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Coke the title of this video is utterly Absurd. You'll notice all those bashing Ace and the No Plane theory , including the poster of this vid
do so based soley on EMOTION, not logic, and they demonstrate No clear objective rational thinking and intelligent examination.
Everything is a name calling session of ' you are a kook, a lunatic, a terrorist lover, anti american fringe psycho etc. '
blah blah blah blah..... ALL emotion, no objectivity
LifeRegenRevolution 1 year ago
@CokeSupply
watch
JOHN LEAR 911
LegPains 1 year ago
ACEBAKER911 debunk the witnesses who did see a plane or do you think they work for the NWO?(4months ago) If some documentaries are the only thing that counts as your evidence then you have to back up that claim with linking evidence. Evidence doesn't just fall on your lap acehippybaker911 it requires effort, yet you don't have extraordinary evidence. Just remember this the 19 hijackers were in one war find it and that will answer your question even though you believe they are video game nerds
warlord2080 2 years ago
war
so How many Witnesses saw the Planes ?
LifeRegenRevolution 1 year ago
@warlord2080
make sure you watch
911 PASSENGERS FICTITIOUS
JOHN LEAR 911
911 CONTINUOUS PIECES
SEPTEMBER CLUES
911 TABOO
LifeRegenRevolution 1 year ago
Justin9Noble
this is too rich..
warlord2080 2 years ago
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thunderbolt2011 2 years ago
this is stupid
Justin9Noble 2 years ago
stop
refused 2 years ago
"This is a bad piece of fottage. The airplane dissappears behind the logo..." Right. As if the TV company did not record the raw video without craphics also. LOL! Excuses, excuses...
SkyDude79 2 years ago
This entire 911 Wtc event is totally ridiculous and absurd.
19 Arab Video Game Nerds waving box cutters hijack 2 planes, fly them uninterrupted or intercepted by sight and instruments alone with NO help from the faa, and do so with pinpoint precision into each bldg.
BOTH planes neatly fit inside the bldgs perfectly..... but we cant examine the so called planes and pull them out because OH NO both bldgs disintigrate into dust in a few seconds ?
LOL yea sure
LifeRegenRevolution 1 year ago
The helicopter dissapears because of motion blur due to the movement of the camera, not because of it getting too small that fast. The plane is almost as wide as one tower, such detail would NOT be "filtered out" in a full 640x480 image. Even tho interlaced.
SkyDude79 2 years ago
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SkyDude79 2 years ago
I am confused... so the real reason why the plan was invisible was bad quality right?
mindlesstube 2 years ago
Correct
Watch these for a better understanding of what happened
JOHN LEAR 911 REMOTE
SEPTEMBER CLUES
911 TABOO
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
I believe the truth. Period.
ZotDudot7 2 years ago
Would you kids please keep it down?!!! WTF are people still buying the official story for? Maybe the govt's magic bullet brought down the Twin Towers.
ZotDudot7 2 years ago
Wow, youre pretty stupid if you believe the conspiracy crap.
godzilla1077 2 years ago
godzilla
If you believe 911 was simply due to 19 Crazy Arab video game nerds waving rusty box cutters you are VERY stupid
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
You do realize there were terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in a smaller degree before 9/11. And I'm not even counting the first bomb attack on the WTC in 1993.
godzilla1077 2 years ago
Do you have any Explanation why on ALL of the various 911 Plane Videos, that NONE of them have any Audio collision sounds of the Plane impacting the Bldg as it 1st Makes contact ?
There are Explosion sounds INSIDE the Bldg, but on None of the vids do we hear ANY physical impact sounds whatsoever when the Plane makes contact with the Bldg.
What is your Explanation of that, and why is it Considered Crazy or Weird to ask that ?
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
So you're sticking with the holographic explanation? Are you serious? Even 9/11 truthers don't rely on that theory because they know it's laughable.
godzilla1077 2 years ago
Most of the Hijackers were trained soldiers and had fought in wars.
They were trained in hand-to-hand combat.
The only "Nerd" here is you.
flanksteak1 2 years ago
Most of the Hijackers exist only in your dreams, its pure fantasy . Fact remains that NO planes were used its irrefutable and undeniable based on Objective clear thinking, Logic and intelligence.
Only a gullible brainwashed Moron would believe in the ' plane theory
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
LOL
Keep telling yourself that over and over and then click your heals together 3 times.
It still won't come true.
flanksteak1 2 years ago
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@ACEBAKER911 - "Fact remains that NO planes were used its irrefutable and undeniable based on Objective clear thinking, Logic and intelligence.
"
And as proof, you've offered nothing but poorly composed sentences with randomly capitalized letters.
Miko5000 2 years ago
LOL nice, what disney book is that in?
refused 2 years ago
@refused
LOL?
flanksteak1 2 years ago
So they probably didn't play the video cause it sucked. And what the hell would no plane prove anyways? Ha Ha. Like it appeared out of thin air or something? The plane hit the fucking building. No question about that. lol.
JimboWoodo 2 years ago
Jimbo
sorry pal, NO PLANES, its indisputable and irrefutable
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
It's Weird Al trying to make the truth movement look stupid.
LeonVerhulst 2 years ago
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Dunc2020 2 years ago
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murrayfurryy 2 years ago
As far as Wright's claim that Fox used "low quality ENG lenses" that's wrong. Mainstream news is always upgrading the gear, they can afford to. I have twenty years of experience in film and television and I would guess that the lens on that chopper was the best Fujinon or Canon had to offer in 2001 and the Digi-Beta camera was the same. Ace is right the plane(s) are fake.
murrayfurryy 2 years ago
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murrayfurryy 2 years ago
So the camera zooms out by about 10% and the chopper completely disappears - what the guy with the glasses failed to talk about was that the camera also MOVES when it zooms out, which is more than enough to blur the tiny chopper out of existence - which kinda makes the argument for his refutation crumble away - not that im saying anyone is right or wrong about video fakery - but he has decided that Ace Baker is wrong for the wrong reason - im not a video expert and even i can fucking see that
CokeSupply 2 years ago
Looks like the nose of the plane coming out of the others side, then a black screen for a second. Why?
Can anyone else see that because on all other footage it's just black and red billowy clouds after the second plane hits.
It's strange!
PEACE
LeonVerhulst 2 years ago
looks like he's wearing a wig.
uglyguido 2 years ago
...but Im about to go o work so Ill leave it with this one point just now. One of Steves main arguements was that the plane didnt match the speed a plane wouldve been going in a constant speed. However as Ace pointed out, it wouldve made sense to put an 'ease out' as we call it in editing, (speed slows down at end). Despite this fact Steve repeated his claim in part 2. Also while as a cameraman I know about AGC (Gain control,) Im not buying that it was this which caused the fade to black.
SuperScientists 2 years ago
While I agree 9/11 was pretty clearly an inside job, the no plane theory is simply ridiculous dude. If your looking to convince people I think your time would be far better spent on the pentagon and wtc7.
By the way, its not like the inside job theory hinges on no planes.
thethirdchimp 2 years ago
I thought the same as you. A buddy told me about NPT and I told him he was nuts. So I watched September clues. Still didnt believe it. It was only when I embraced the possibility I was wrong about NPT that I was able to see just how dodgy the videos were. Look at the research from an unbiased standpoint. Almost everyone thought they had seen planes. We all trust the TV dont we?!?!?!? And I know inside job doesnt hang on no plane theory, Im just not afraid of asking the question.
SuperScientists 2 years ago
To normal people you look just as ridiculous with your Pentagon theories and your WTC7 theories as you think that he looks with his no plane theories. You are ALL nuts.
jeffmay1 2 years ago
feel free to explain why.........
thethirdchimp 2 years ago
Explain why what? I looked through a few pages here and don't see any comments from me
jeffmay1 2 years ago
why do u spend so much time trying to debunk 9/11, if u dont believe it, watch some cartoons.. or, go find a hot ho to bang, or better yet, read the bible if thats your thing. But why are you so obsessed with telling people 9/11 was not done by a group of power elite.
deceiver123m 2 years ago
Erm because there's no evidence to support that it was done by "the power elite", and that some people actually care about history is retold, and that lies (like there was no plane at the pentagon) is pretty disrespectful to those who died on that plane and their families.
MrDarwin1859 2 years ago
ur moms disrespectful, tell that bitch its rude to spit her tricks cum.. the man payed good money for her time on her knees
deceiver123m 2 years ago
is that you can come back with? Insulting my mother? Hilarious. Which ten year old did you pay to think that up ,you complete fucking moron. Go back to your crack pipe and leave the thinking to other people
MrDarwin1859 2 years ago
shutafuck up, my question was to jeff may, not ur queer self. Faggot, its a sin just to read ur gay words... Don't you realize your the only disrespecting the people who died on 9/11, specially if you continue to claim a plane crashed at the pentagon. You're perpetuating lies about who really murdered the people in NY. Now go save your whore mother from her hooking.. And fuck off, ive got work to do.
deceiver123m 2 years ago
Yeah, and my question was to you - you ignorant retard. There's plenty of evidence that a plane hit the pentagon (debris, bodies, hundreds of impartial eye-witnesses), but you're too busy mindlessly regurgitating the horseshit by other 9/11 truthers, like all the other brainless theorists. "Ive got work to do" - like I said before, get back to your crack pipe.
BTW, maybe you should stop seeing prostitutes - you seem a bit obsessed.
MrDarwin1859 2 years ago
and another thing about prostitutes. Your mother is one.
And what question?? the one about my come back? what does that have to do with the video. Your original comment to me was answering a question i never asked you... my question was to jeffmay's obssesed ass, his whole channel is about debunking 9/11. Your question was about me calling your mom a whore... Your an idiot, dont answer questions not posted for you. And get your mom off the hooking.. its ridiculous at her age
deceiver123m 2 years ago
You're reply on a public thread which is open to everone - so dont start crying when other people take issue with your nonsensical bollocks. You want to ask him a question? Send him a private message you moron. Oh, and the mother thing? Really embarrassing I actually pity you. You obviously have the intelligence and social graces of a diseased chimp.
My original question to you was that the "power elite" didnt cause 9/11 - as the evidence shown. Sorry your memory doesnt go back 5 minutes
MrDarwin1859 2 years ago
my memory goes back 3 trillion years, im the king of the fairies you faggot. No one cares what you got to say, yours moms a power elite.. what you got to say about that? fucking globalist scum
deceiver123m 2 years ago
and you made a statement regarding the power elites involvement in 9/11... no question was made. Your fucking high aint you, you cant even remember you never asked me a question; you only made a statement in response to my question to that obsessed communist JeffMay
deceiver123m 2 years ago
"Im the king of the faries" - ....."your mums a power elite" - I think its time for you to take your tablets Cleatus, your medication has obviously worn off.
Ill await your intelligent reply of "your mum's worn off" - or something equally hilarious
MrDarwin1859 2 years ago
im still waiting for you to show me where you asked me a question about 9/11... since you have such great memory, you must remember what your question was. All i read before was a pure statement to my question directed to Jeff May
And yeah your moms pussy is worn out; usually is on long time hookers. DUH!
deceiver123m 2 years ago
watch?v=oQssF0v8_I4&feature=channel_page
and theres absolute proof regarding 9/11
AND, heres a real question directed to you MrDarwin1859... WHY DO U CARE ABOUT 9/11 IF YOU ARE FUCKING BRITISH.. FUCK OFF AND WORRY ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY ASSHOLE.. GO PROTEST THE QUEEN BEING UGLY AND NOT GETTING PLASTIC SURGERY FOR IT
deceiver123m 2 years ago
watch?v=oQssF0v8_I4&feature=channel_page
deceiver123m 2 years ago
is that what your mom used to glue your skull together after she dropped you on the concrete?
911TRUTHINATOR 2 years ago
no its what i shot down ur sisters throat. Gagged her to death
deceiver123m 2 years ago
What a fucking moron you are. The fact that british troops have been in Afganistan for the past 7 years and iraq for six seems to have slipped your memory. What a stupid point. Why do people care about third world people dying if it not in their country?
Also, over 60 british people died in the WTC. But getting fact straight isnt your thing though isnt it. Ok, ill go to the queen - only if you go to the president to complain about being a bunch of obese, celebrity obsessed, uncultured idiots
MrDarwin1859 2 years ago
go to the video. It prooves everything. And seriously, no american anywhere in the world, even those vacationing and smoking joints in jamaica is grateful for ur terrorist invasion of iraq, we just laugh at you, and use your queens ugly face as halloween masks. FUCK ENGLAND
deceiver123m 2 years ago
"even those vacationing and smoking joints in jamaica is grateful for ur terrorist invasion of iraq" WTF??
Could you be any more of a moron? Would that be the terrorist invasion of Iraq lead by the USA? You asked what this has to do with the UK, and I told you why. Now you send some nonsensical bullshit about "smoking joints in Jamaica". Its just embarrasing!
You laugh at us? Well the world laughs at you, my retarded friend. Just search "dumb american" on youtube. Try and spot yourself
MrDarwin1859 2 years ago
you sir are a sick individual. Stop sleeping with other men, its not natural.
deceiver123m 2 years ago
Since you have reverted back to you elementary school name calling, and have stopped writing anything remotely relevant, Ill assume that last comment was your way of admitting defeat. Well done.....you brainless moron
MrDarwin1859 2 years ago
i already showed u the video with all the proof moron. DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO???
deceiver123m 2 years ago
im still waiting for that alleged question you made to me... it doesnt exist does it. All you've got left is your love for your queen. While i have jamaican vacations and joint... who really is drowned in defeat??
deceiver123m 2 years ago
and its retarded that you would claim to care about 9/11 because of troops in iraq. Its on record by BUSH's statements that Iraq was invaded for weapons of mass destruction.. nothing to do with 9/11... who again i ask you, why do you care about 9/11?
AND IM STILL WAITING TO SEE YOUR QUESTION WITHIN THE FIRST COMMENT YOU CLAIM YOU MADE TO ME.. it never happened did it... fucking idiot. Stop sniffing glue made from the queens vagina secretions
deceiver123m 2 years ago
deceiver123m always goes nutty when fathers day comes up, his mother had 150+ men the week he got concieved.
911TRUTHINATOR 2 years ago 3