Well, if that's the same prime mover, then I think a very fine audio mix, coupled with the classic Leslie chime. And what a great look at the big Sharks! Thanks for posting.
By far the best audio footage you will find!, the sound is like a couple of Belgian classes (51, in my avatar and 59) they used Baldwin engines of the same type, 608A 8 in line build in license by Cockerill Liege in Belgium.
They outlasted the sharks by more than 25 years, both classes ending duty in 2003. (but built between 1954 and 1961, so also some years later).
The 59's, rated 1750hp were very reliable, but the 51 at 2150hp had issues too, hence they were downrated at 1950hp.
The Baldwin Sharks could not MU with other manufacturer's locomotives because of their air-operated throttles. If you notice, there are crew members in the cab of the Shark and the E7A unit - two head end crews would be required to operate this locomotive combination. Depending on the number of cars being hauled, they may have needed another unit for power . . . or for protection, since the Baldwin Passenger Sharks didn't last long in Blue Ribbon Passenger service due to reliability issues.
The Pennsylvania Railroad was the only one to have the Sharknose version of the Baldwin DR-6-4-2000 (six axle trucks, two engines per unit). There were 18 "A" and 9 "B" units built during 1948. Pennsylvania's classification for these units was BP20 (some were put in freight service and classed BP16z). All "passenger" Sharks (6 axle trucks) came equipped with Vapor DRK-4530 steam generators. Sources state that all "B" units were retired 1962-63, "A" units starting in 1962, last one mid 1965
I was not aware that there was a six axel version of the shark!!!!!!! The only one's I have seen pictures of had 4 axels. This footage is gold,so far the only actual film of the sharks I have ever found.
i dont know if the sharks had steam generators on em,so that may explain putting the emd on it,but why all three? that one E-8 shouldve been enough loco for that pass train, unless it was having prime mover issues..maybe it was a power move as well?
Wow! Beautiful, all American works of industrial art in color and motion. Wish this vid was much longer. Thank you for posting this gem of a vid, Ed. Excellent quality.
Sorry to say your dead wrong on this one. I grew up here, got the 8mm movie camera for a wedding present, I got married in 1964. Shot this scene in 1966 the BP-20's were still around. I was shooting black & white here in the 1950's.
It's not likely that this was from 1966. The BP20s got bumped off the Long Branch soon after they replaced the K4s in 1956-1957. It is much more likely that this great video was from 1957, or 58 the latest.
There are only that exist in the entire world and they stored in a area that no one can get any pics or video of them. The two that survive are former D&H locomotives and I don't think they operate, but are the four axle versions.
Ed, were those two Baldwins and E7 MU'ed together, or running independent? Also, do you have anymore sound recordings from these units? I've heard some stories about the BP20s dealing with their MU capabilities. Thanks for sharing.
This is priceless! Seeing GG-1s and E-units switching around on the mainline and not on museum track is ridiculously NEAT-O!! In color, no less. Outstanding!
Ed, were those two Baldwins and E7 MU'ed together, or running independent? Also, do you have anymore sound recordings from these units? I've heard some stories about the BP20s dealing with their MU capabilities. Thanks for sharing.
Well, if that's the same prime mover, then I think a very fine audio mix, coupled with the classic Leslie chime. And what a great look at the big Sharks! Thanks for posting.
kurtarmbruster 5 days ago
Cool!
By far the best audio footage you will find!, the sound is like a couple of Belgian classes (51, in my avatar and 59) they used Baldwin engines of the same type, 608A 8 in line build in license by Cockerill Liege in Belgium.
They outlasted the sharks by more than 25 years, both classes ending duty in 2003. (but built between 1954 and 1961, so also some years later).
The 59's, rated 1750hp were very reliable, but the 51 at 2150hp had issues too, hence they were downrated at 1950hp.
dieselmupke 1 week ago
is this actual audio?
tartopfan 1 month ago
Would have been nice to see the rolling stock behind it as well.... :-)
xr6lad 1 month ago
Awesome post, Thanks for the classic footage.
THEATREofPAIN270 1 month ago
The Baldwin Sharks could not MU with other manufacturer's locomotives because of their air-operated throttles. If you notice, there are crew members in the cab of the Shark and the E7A unit - two head end crews would be required to operate this locomotive combination. Depending on the number of cars being hauled, they may have needed another unit for power . . . or for protection, since the Baldwin Passenger Sharks didn't last long in Blue Ribbon Passenger service due to reliability issues.
SpookyEN211 1 month ago
The Pennsylvania Railroad was the only one to have the Sharknose version of the Baldwin DR-6-4-2000 (six axle trucks, two engines per unit). There were 18 "A" and 9 "B" units built during 1948. Pennsylvania's classification for these units was BP20 (some were put in freight service and classed BP16z). All "passenger" Sharks (6 axle trucks) came equipped with Vapor DRK-4530 steam generators. Sources state that all "B" units were retired 1962-63, "A" units starting in 1962, last one mid 1965
SpookyEN211 1 month ago
what was with the E-7?
TheTrainman888 2 months ago
I was not aware that there was a six axel version of the shark!!!!!!! The only one's I have seen pictures of had 4 axels. This footage is gold,so far the only actual film of the sharks I have ever found.
bonzobakermoon 2 months ago
@bonzobakermoon I believe the six axel verions had a steam generator. It was basiclly Baldwins version of the E units.
TheTrainman888 2 months ago
i dont know if the sharks had steam generators on em,so that may explain putting the emd on it,but why all three? that one E-8 shouldve been enough loco for that pass train, unless it was having prime mover issues..maybe it was a power move as well?
21navyseabee 3 months ago
very VERY cool! i'm not a big diesel fan and i like it!
TheMrbigtires 4 months ago
I DIDNT KNOW THE PRR RAN SHARK NOSE DIESELS THATS COOL TO KNOW
grizzleybearz282004 8 months ago
Wow! Beautiful, all American works of industrial art in color and motion. Wish this vid was much longer. Thank you for posting this gem of a vid, Ed. Excellent quality.
ACLTony 9 months ago
A GG-1 plus passenger Sharks in two different liveries. Awesome.
EssexExport 9 months ago
Sorry to say your dead wrong on this one. I grew up here, got the 8mm movie camera for a wedding present, I got married in 1964. Shot this scene in 1966 the BP-20's were still around. I was shooting black & white here in the 1950's.
Ed K.
m3ohwell 11 months ago
It's not likely that this was from 1966. The BP20s got bumped off the Long Branch soon after they replaced the K4s in 1956-1957. It is much more likely that this great video was from 1957, or 58 the latest.
ABDOSPIANO 11 months ago
besides museums.....anyone running Sharks?
jeepers2655 11 months ago
@jeepers2655
There are only that exist in the entire world and they stored in a area that no one can get any pics or video of them. The two that survive are former D&H locomotives and I don't think they operate, but are the four axle versions.
kmothersil 4 months ago
Gotta love the A-200
cweis127 1 year ago
Great clear footage! A real pleasure to watch. Felt like I was there -- time travel right here on Youtube.
casperfriendly47 1 year ago
Only footage I know of tha has the Sharks horn. Automatic favorite
qlancer 1 year ago
Awesome footage!
railcar123 1 year ago
listen to the wonderful noise coming from the 606 turbo's in the bp20 sharks!
KingofScots85 1 year ago
Fine job!
crownprinceofgroovy 1 year ago
Great, clear footage! Those sharks were quite impressive!
JeffOrnstein01 1 year ago
Nice Sharknose/E unit power set!!!
Amtrak1194 1 year ago
Ed, were those two Baldwins and E7 MU'ed together, or running independent? Also, do you have anymore sound recordings from these units? I've heard some stories about the BP20s dealing with their MU capabilities. Thanks for sharing.
TVRRMAN 1 year ago
Wow, great stuff Ed! Very surprised to see sharks this late, I did not know they lasted as late as 66.
thanks for sharing.
prr643 1 year ago
Those have got to be one of the coolest looking diesels I've ever seen.
kmothersil 1 year ago
who else thought the signal in the beginning was a chocolate chip cookie?
KMSalex 1 year ago
It seems so much more efficient than it is today
trainmanlars 1 year ago
Great Video Ed.
xxxDeath9572xxx 1 year ago
Great footage, Ed! Thanks for uploading!
Baldwindiesels 1 year ago
GG's and Sharks!! Can't get enough!
TheZepmeister 1 year ago
is this footage really from 1966 ?
hope2prosper 1 year ago
@hope2prosper
Certainly is! I was 26 years old then.
Ed K.
m3ohwell 1 year ago
I LOVE those Pensey Sharks!
railfreek 1 year ago
Cool video! I didn't know that trains swapped locomotives at Rahway, I thought it was only at South Amboy. Well hey you learn something new everyday.
Great0ne1 1 year ago
Great video, thanks for posting
01Lightning 1 year ago
Keep em' comin!
fixitdude74 2 years ago
Those 6 axle sharks were some awesome looking units! Wish some had survived. Great video, thanks for sharing.
nikosjk1 2 years ago
Wow, really takes you back to the good old days!
sepersr 2 years ago
This is priceless! Seeing GG-1s and E-units switching around on the mainline and not on museum track is ridiculously NEAT-O!! In color, no less. Outstanding!
daboteman 2 years ago
Spectacular.
o00o00ozy 2 years ago
Good footage, innacurate sound dubbing, but without running prototypes, whaddya do?
BNSF5608 2 years ago
Hey! I do the best I can with what sound files I have.
Ed K.
m3ohwell 2 years ago
I know. Thats why I said "whaddya do?". I think its great that you still have this footage after all these years.
BNSF5608 2 years ago
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@m3ohwell
Ed, were those two Baldwins and E7 MU'ed together, or running independent? Also, do you have anymore sound recordings from these units? I've heard some stories about the BP20s dealing with their MU capabilities. Thanks for sharing.
TVRRMAN 1 year ago
@m3ohwell & for that I say good job!
tartopfan 5 days ago
Wow, Baldwins and GG1's, cool.
mafarnz 2 years ago 2