Carbide is brittle. Kudos on the face shield, but -- I'd want either a low 3/4" plywood wall between that bit and my chest, or a phone book stuck in my apron top to catch any shrapnel should the bit fracture.
That is just unbelievably brilliant! May I ask specifically what bit you are using? I know it's a 3/4" roundover, but can you tell me which one? The flange looks quite a bit larger than what you see on most 3/4" roundover bits. Sorry if this is a dumb question - I'm a complete power tool ignoramus.
@k9taxi I would recommend normal router speeds for wood cutting which would be anywhere from 20,000 to 30,000 rpm's. Maple tends to burn if your bit is not sharp so I'd say start with a sharp bit and about 22,000 rpm's with a slightly slow feed rate. If your bit is not that sharp you could try higher rpm's and a faster feed rate but you'd be risking a tear out.
Thank you all for the sweet compliments! The bit is indeed a 3/4" round over bit but a thumbnail bit could be experimented with for different profiles. Some like it fat some like it thin so play with it to get what you're looking for!
It's a custom ZigZag router....nah just kidding! Actually it's a Shop Fox available from Grizzly tools for about $600. You put your own router in it and hook it up to the air. My router's about fried! Check out more of my video's if you want to see different angles of it. It is the most used tool in my shop (besides my brain) so its in a bunch of my videos. Thanks!
Is that all you do for the necks? Just use the router and then smooth stuff over, finish sand, and round the fretboard edge? If so, You are a very smart dude
hi ryan great work i was wondering what router bit are you using here? is it a round over bit with a 3/4" radius? hope to hear from you soon i really like what i see on your video i want to use the same set-up
Indeed, don't measure if you don't need to. I'm a journeyman machinist and CNC programmer and I couldn't see spending 50K or more on a machine that would exactly what you are doing here and in little, if any, less time. Nice set up. BTW where did you get the pneumatic overarm router?
I've considered CNC time after time but have found that my style of building and finished product (being established in a basement with typical garage tools) doesnt' lend itself very well to CNC production. I've always tried to promote the ability to execute consistancy in numbers using mostly primitive hand techniques. Jig making has given me the ability to 'Measure once & never measure again'. Always keep your mind as the sharpest tool in your shop. ;)
Doesn't do ALL of the work but have you priced a CNC machine? This does 80% of it in 60 seconds, good trade off. I also wondered about the bearing track.
The cutter I am using is a 3/4" radius bit with a 1/2" shank. Any brand should work, as long as the bit is sharp. The bearing on the bit is inactive with this jig because the top edge of the neck is already rounded (in a similar manor) during fret end trimming. The pin on the table actually follows an identical precut taper on the underside of the jig guiding the mounted neck across the free spinning bit. Final shaping is required but this system really removes the bull work!
The guide is visible when you lift the support at the beginning of the video. It is really well designed, great work, really! I was wondering if a 3/4" radius bit would do the job as I have my eye on a freud quadracut with the same dimensions. It clearly removes the bull work, 4 necks pre-shaped in 5 minutes, nothing like the same work with a spokeshave! Thanks a lot for sharing buddy, I've seen this video at least 10 times studying your clever system, keep it up! ;)
@smokeboxinstruments I've recently lost a multitude of video's from my hard drive. One of which contanied footage of the top edge of the fretboard being radiused. I am resuming operations on more Retro necks and will be re taping many of the operations. Stay posted! And if you have suggestions of any operations that you'd like to see, let me know!
@smokeboxinstruments My apologies for never posting this video request for you. I have another batch of necks to do soon and will be sure to shoot this operation specifically for you. Thank you for your endless patience!
Great system! It must save you a lot of time. Could you please tell me the dimensions of your rounding router bit, and maybe the model references? Thanks a lot!
@MrKhaan I'm not sure if I ever answered your question. Anyways, here it is. I use a standard 3/4" roundover bit. Available at any woodworkers store. You can get closer with a thumbnail bit, which is eliptical, but the direction that I like to carve after this procedure is quicker with the straight-up 3/4". Saves a boat load of time!
Seriously, I'm tempted to link you some power tool accidents so you start wearing some hefty leather gloves!
Most luthiers aren't bothering with the intelligent design innovations you use like full access to frets and zero neck heel. Kramer produced a super strat with these elements as part of the standard design over 20 years ago but it never caught on for some reason.
It looks like the neck has the same with in both ends... do you make the taper after you have routed the back?
DumbleODS 3 weeks ago
Hey man. excellent work. nice noggin ya got there! keep it up.
TheOwlInTheOak 3 weeks ago
素晴らしい仕事ぶりだ。改めて！、仕事は道具 道具はアイデア アイデアは経験から 良いギターが出来るでしょうね。 頑張って下さい。
First time it worked fine.
Think again! Work is the idea tool ideas tools good guitar I can experience it. Please luck.
aibotora8 1 month ago
hi is possible make a compaund radius??? in to your machine is possible change radius on the finish neck!! ???
I like your radius jig ... where i find it??? regards.
macca7300 2 months ago
Master. Could you do a tutorial for this, or send me the plans? Please.
FuhrerKaiser 2 months ago
i like !!! ,hi
istrati73 4 months ago
Ryan that is a cool jig, do you have any plans that you can post?
Roy1271 4 months ago
PRIMUS SUCKS!!!!!!
connberkshire 5 months ago
Carbide is brittle. Kudos on the face shield, but -- I'd want either a low 3/4" plywood wall between that bit and my chest, or a phone book stuck in my apron top to catch any shrapnel should the bit fracture.
ozzyscruggs1 6 months ago
Looks like a PC 690 motor
ozzyscruggs1 6 months ago
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where I can buy that router bit? you have a website.
I'm from Argentina.
thanks
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sedaleto1981 7 months ago
That is just unbelievably brilliant! May I ask specifically what bit you are using? I know it's a 3/4" roundover, but can you tell me which one? The flange looks quite a bit larger than what you see on most 3/4" roundover bits. Sorry if this is a dumb question - I'm a complete power tool ignoramus.
FlyingPancreas 7 months ago
Where can I get that jigs plans?
MikeUnderwoodonFB 8 months ago
Primus!! Awesome
j3emt 11 months ago
What RPMs do you find best for cutting the maple necks?
k9taxi 1 year ago
@k9taxi I would recommend normal router speeds for wood cutting which would be anywhere from 20,000 to 30,000 rpm's. Maple tends to burn if your bit is not sharp so I'd say start with a sharp bit and about 22,000 rpm's with a slightly slow feed rate. If your bit is not that sharp you could try higher rpm's and a faster feed rate but you'd be risking a tear out.
TheRealRyanMartin 1 year ago
could you tell me the type of router bit you use exactly??????
i mean the company and the model???
thanx in advance!!
dimitheodoro 1 year ago
Thank you all for the sweet compliments! The bit is indeed a 3/4" round over bit but a thumbnail bit could be experimented with for different profiles. Some like it fat some like it thin so play with it to get what you're looking for!
TheRealRyanMartin 1 year ago
Thats about the fastest most efficient neck cutting I've seen! A bit of handwork and its there!
GameLevelEditor 1 year ago
It's a custom ZigZag router....nah just kidding! Actually it's a Shop Fox available from Grizzly tools for about $600. You put your own router in it and hook it up to the air. My router's about fried! Check out more of my video's if you want to see different angles of it. It is the most used tool in my shop (besides my brain) so its in a bunch of my videos. Thanks!
TheRealRyanMartin 1 year ago
@TheRealRyanMartin Ryan, is there a way to lower the index pin on the Shop Fox?
cjdavda 8 months ago
Great jig! What type of pin router are you using?
hahnsottis 1 year ago
Is that all you do for the necks? Just use the router and then smooth stuff over, finish sand, and round the fretboard edge? If so, You are a very smart dude
cjdavda 1 year ago
cool jig, fish on.
ericbmoss 1 year ago
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ctbrg 1 year ago
Great, you really know this job ;) great work.thanks.
gubalak 1 year ago
Super ... like it invention !!!!!
lilian05 1 year ago
Have you tried other bits? How did you decide on 3/4" radius?
DivebombInc 1 year ago
hi ryan great work i was wondering what router bit are you using here? is it a round over bit with a 3/4" radius? hope to hear from you soon i really like what i see on your video i want to use the same set-up
vinnieless 1 year ago
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smokeboxinstruments 1 year ago
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smokeboxinstruments 1 year ago
primus!
puskycarrera 1 year ago
Indeed, don't measure if you don't need to. I'm a journeyman machinist and CNC programmer and I couldn't see spending 50K or more on a machine that would exactly what you are doing here and in little, if any, less time. Nice set up. BTW where did you get the pneumatic overarm router?
Beemerboy324 1 year ago
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Beemerboy324 1 year ago
I've considered CNC time after time but have found that my style of building and finished product (being established in a basement with typical garage tools) doesnt' lend itself very well to CNC production. I've always tried to promote the ability to execute consistancy in numbers using mostly primitive hand techniques. Jig making has given me the ability to 'Measure once & never measure again'. Always keep your mind as the sharpest tool in your shop. ;)
TheRealRyanMartin 1 year ago
Doesn't do ALL of the work but have you priced a CNC machine? This does 80% of it in 60 seconds, good trade off. I also wondered about the bearing track.
Beemerboy324 1 year ago
Really cool jig and very very nice work !!! congratulations !!!
I was wondering if the bearing of your 3/4 bit is running along the fretboard, or if it runs along your fixture?
thanx for the info!
Mike
stinkfootmik 2 years ago
Fantastic jig! Im really getting a kick out of this and you other vids. Keep it going.
agdarwin 2 years ago
The cutter I am using is a 3/4" radius bit with a 1/2" shank. Any brand should work, as long as the bit is sharp. The bearing on the bit is inactive with this jig because the top edge of the neck is already rounded (in a similar manor) during fret end trimming. The pin on the table actually follows an identical precut taper on the underside of the jig guiding the mounted neck across the free spinning bit. Final shaping is required but this system really removes the bull work!
TheRealRyanMartin 2 years ago
The guide is visible when you lift the support at the beginning of the video. It is really well designed, great work, really! I was wondering if a 3/4" radius bit would do the job as I have my eye on a freud quadracut with the same dimensions. It clearly removes the bull work, 4 necks pre-shaped in 5 minutes, nothing like the same work with a spokeshave! Thanks a lot for sharing buddy, I've seen this video at least 10 times studying your clever system, keep it up! ;)
MrKhaan 2 years ago
@MrKhaan Why thank you, Mr. Khaan!
TheRealRyanMartin 1 year ago
Could you post a video of you rounding the top edge? Pretty please? O'Captain, my Captain?
smokeboxinstruments 1 year ago
@smokeboxinstruments I've recently lost a multitude of video's from my hard drive. One of which contanied footage of the top edge of the fretboard being radiused. I am resuming operations on more Retro necks and will be re taping many of the operations. Stay posted! And if you have suggestions of any operations that you'd like to see, let me know!
TheRealRyanMartin 1 year ago
Cool man, will do. Thanks again for being so open to questions etc.
smokeboxinstruments 1 year ago
@smokeboxinstruments My apologies for never posting this video request for you. I have another batch of necks to do soon and will be sure to shoot this operation specifically for you. Thank you for your endless patience!
TheRealRyanMartin 1 year ago
@smokeboxinstruments I believe the video is called "SeaGlassing Fretboard Edges" I know it's up here somewhere.
TheRealRyanMartin 1 year ago
Great system! It must save you a lot of time. Could you please tell me the dimensions of your rounding router bit, and maybe the model references? Thanks a lot!
MrKhaan 2 years ago
@MrKhaan I'm not sure if I ever answered your question. Anyways, here it is. I use a standard 3/4" roundover bit. Available at any woodworkers store. You can get closer with a thumbnail bit, which is eliptical, but the direction that I like to carve after this procedure is quicker with the straight-up 3/4". Saves a boat load of time!
TheRealRyanMartin 1 year ago
@TheRealRyanMartin, Excellent jig! Best I've seen!
Does the 3/4" bit give you a modern 'C' shape? Could you go up a size for a Gibson style neck?
Thanks.
FiftySixSpecial 1 year ago
Seriously, I'm tempted to link you some power tool accidents so you start wearing some hefty leather gloves!
Most luthiers aren't bothering with the intelligent design innovations you use like full access to frets and zero neck heel. Kramer produced a super strat with these elements as part of the standard design over 20 years ago but it never caught on for some reason.
JonDeth 2 years ago
Cool, just gave me a new idea for attaching necks since my last engineering marvel got stolen!
JonDeth 2 years ago