Shoreham Hurricane crash, Missing Man flyby

[mtbengel]

You have to consider that when you read some of the stupid, inflammatory comments on youtube it is likely coming from an insensitive and badly behaved 13 year old child. It's not worth the energy of a reply. As an American, my apologizes to our British allies who made some terrific aircraft and flew them with incredible valor. May this poor pilot rest in peace.

[thamesking]

@mtbengel Wise words, wise words.

[KozakAttack]

wheres the crash, I CAME FOR THE CRASH

[thamesking]

@KozakAttack: I admire your honesty! The title of the video relates to the Hurricane crash that happened four minutes before this. The fact that the pilots were able to carry out this flypast, which had been planned anyway, says a lot for their professionalism when they were still in shock at the loss of their friend Brian Brown.

[moonmeetslighting]

This is not a hurricane it is a spitfire

[moonmeetslighting]

This is not a hurricane

[atjnAdfhhjea]

What's with all the "irreplaceable plane" comments? I understand "irreplaceable pilot", that's a tragedy, but it's just a Hurricane, make another one.

[iddodaphne]

@atjnAdfhhjea Make another one, how? Stupid comment that should be kept to yourself.

[atjnAdfhhjea]

@iddodaphne It's simple, you do what they did 70 years ago, and do it again.

[iddodaphne]

@atjnAdfhhjea Another stupid comment. Where is all the tooling, where are the jigs, the components required? Tell you what, pop down to Halfords and buy a Merlin engine. I imagine you're about 14 years old. A sad loss of the pilot and his beloved machine.

[atjnAdfhhjea]

@iddodaphne All the parts can be found in various aircraft yards, or you could get an aerospace manufacturer to build one, as many of them built the originals.

[iddodaphne]

@atjnAdfhhjea Gosh, I didn't realise it was so simple and cheap to build a WWII warbird from scratch. Seeing as it will be worth a million or so when done it's amazing people don't do this all the time and fill the skies with them. I hope people are reading this and can come to you for advice.

[atjnAdfhhjea]

@iddodaphne I never said it would be cheap, I just said it isn't irreplaceable.

[TheSpiritof1969]

@atjnAdfhhjea

Given that a working hurricane is worth between one and two million I am intrigued where these aircraft yards are that still have parts for them. Agreed that the Merlins can be sourced in different ways as they were used for other purposes as well as aircraft ... but the rest of it?

[timuss]

Still so moving to see, i was there thankfully i didn't see the crash as i was taking pictures of the other aircraft at the time. A sad and tragic loss RIP Brian Brown = (

[sorePenis]

I don't understand. I thought the formation is to honour a dead pilot. How did they know he was dead? If he only crashed a few minutes earlier, isn't it a bit presumptuous to assume the poor bugger is dead before really having it confirmed?

[thamesking]

@sorePenis Good point, however they had presumably rehearsed this flypast before the show, and the fact that they still went ahead with it only minutes after they knew that one of their friends had crashed (and hadn't for example all just come into land while the emergency was going on) says something for their guts and professionalism.

[wallyatyt]

@thamesking Besides, this is not a Missing Man formation, which requires for one of the planes to break the formation and go up into the blue sky... Probably just a flypast which was dramatically anounced as a MMF...

[thamesking]

@wallyatyt - I thought a Missing Man Formation was a regular formation with a gap, symbolising a pilot missing in action. As I mentioned in the comment above it must have been rehearsed before Brian Brown's crash. I checked my original videos - this flypast was less than 5 minutes after the crash so is unlikely to have been in memory of Brian but was obviously an emotional moment when it took place.

[bhm1712]

@wallyatyt WRONG this is MMF. the missing man formation is as thamesking says.

[SeptemberFury]

@sorePenis If you seen how it came down you would of said as soon as you seen it the pilot would never have survived the crash. It went straight in nose first flat out!

[WhitakerSJA]

@sorePenis one pilot saw the angle at which the aircraft went into the ground and the speed at which it went in. engulfed in fire immediately. he called up what had happen on radio and they few MMF as a tribute. the MMF was to be done later in the show but they decided that htey would do it then

[Bader1940]

I was there. It was just devastating. My kids were stunned, and I cried.

The man and the irreplaceable plane.

Good grief. That Hurricane, I photographed her on the ground, close up, is still my wallpaper now and will be for a long time.

[thamesking]

@Bader1940 I still remember it with shock. I have some nice close-up still photos of Brian Brown relaxing on the grass in the shade of his Hurricane chatting to another pilot only 20 mins or so before he took off, plus others of him taxying out. A great loss and unbelievable when it happens right in front of you.

[tradbgon]

What a joke. I mean, come on. These guys with these huge egos fly these old pieces of history to feed their egos, destroy the old, irreplaceable piece of history, and their buddies organize a flyby to feed their egos. How touching. Every year another WWII plane crashes and kills its pilot. Every year. I have no pity for them. In fact, I resent they destroy these planes every year. If they were just doing straight-level flyby's that would be diff. But no, its low-level areobatics. Absurd

[dwb345]

"these guys with these huge egos fly to feed their egos?" thats insulting, these pilots and mechanics are the only reason we can enjoy these aircraft today as they once were. And that flyby was not to "feed their egos??", it was done out of respect. "they" do not set out to "destroy these planes each year".

[Pr0ject2]

@tradbgon Oi you prick have some fucking respect.

[LoVeMySeMTeX]

@tradbgon I hope every year a member of your family dies, Then we will see if you have any respect for other's.

[timesPassing]

I was at the airshow the day after, and there were tears all through the crowd during the silence held. R.I.P, and a salute from me.

[joedaviesuk1]

read pilot magazine the AAIBs report is in there. R.i.p.

[Melodybubble]

If u were thereon the day ... did u go the next year after it happened?? .... I was the Cadet that has to say all of the RAF respects.. :D .... God i cryed my eyes out :( ... R.I.P Brian Brown .. Was a plwasure to salute you :).

[thamesking]

Hi Melodybubble - no I haven't been back to Shoreham since that airshow. I went in 1997 when a Harvard landed outside the airfield following engine failure immediately after take off and a Rapide nearly nosed over during its take off run. Nobody was hurt but both pilots were a bit shocked. Brian Brown's crash in 2007 was the first and only actual crash I have seen at an airshow. I have photos of him chatting with other pilots twenty minutes before his last flight. Very sad.

[BigPimmel666]

"Bandits"

[gunnerbjj]

u call that missing man formation..ha not even

[ashton324]

if u can do better prove it

[oldstuffandcollect]

what do you know about it

[Hennersbass]

Very moving. I've met the pilot, Brian Brown, at several airshows, and what a guy he was.

He once said to me (while standing next to the hurricane "This is my best friend, my soul is in her, and she is in me"

I can find comfort that he died with his friend, and with honour and dignity.

The formation says it all really.

[slidel211288]

i was there that day too. i saw the plane go down over the tree's before the smoke came up..

pretty emotional video

[dfcvda]

correction, unintelligible

[dfcvda]

1hexjumper, your grammar is intelligible

[sgtgrech]

The airshow world has lost one of it's best at Shoreham & this impromptu mark of respect from the remaining display pilots just goes to show how much he was respected.....Blue skies David, we salute you.

[FALCONengland]

there was no better way to make a mark of respect on the day to one of the worlds best pilots, Brian Brown will be remembered at the shoreham air show 2008.

[ponchoyo]

poor plane! not replaceable!

[ice9fetus81]

where's the crash?

[marinoshulagreise]

a gr8 mark of respect...i heard that some ppl didnt like the way they flew that pass, but i think there was no bettr way to pay thier respects

[transonicbuoy1]

I was there on the day. Black smoke came up. And these men kept flying. Outstanding.

[jeffiegirl]

geffski would you like to repeat that in English?

[urbansoldier1]

mein beileid aus deutschland...

too sad.. not enougth words to give bigger convey comfort to the family..

a big salut to pilot Brian Brown

[transonicbuoy1]

Thanks mate - a sad day.

[geffski]

irreplaceble plane! love that! they ar more than replacable if you have the cash from what i picked up when working ther on alot of them thers very few bits that havnt been ripped out and replaced! ther for very replacable!a tradegy few of us will understand? i understand it as a pilot through his own error or more likly the planes stuck it in the ground like a dart!

air man well wot can you do, not the most likeable bunch!

[Brianboro88]

Remember the real loss here is not some point of fact,but an irreplaceble pilot & plane.this is a tragedy few of us will ever begin to understand.he flies now with the spirits of the legendary few!

[1HEXJUMPER]

carelessband

i have seen now what happend on video from different angles and i stick to my first opinion no matter who or what

was involved and because any case i view razorsharp as "anonymous" and "dry" without any sentimental feelings detour

[mrsknowitall29]

BELOW COMMENT WAS MADE FOR HEXJUMPER

[procesgnilny]

Niech spoczywa w pokoju... [*]

Respect from Poland!

[KurtGnu]

May the Hurri pilot rest in peace.. what a tragic accident, not only for his immediate family, but for nthe world of aviation.. :(

[1HEXJUMPER]

a flyby of 6X spit's but not the missing man routine where 1 airplane in the group pulls up and flies away !

[mrsknowitall29]

What is wrong with you? Your comments on the local paper website have been removed for their insensitivity, and now you are nit picking at the humble gesture made by the late pilot's colleagues. If my memory serves right the "man missing flyby" has many different versions, and that the pilot that does pull up signifies that one of them is dead, which at that time had not been confirmed to those of us watching it all unfold. Keep your evil comments to yourself!!!

[jfoster21]

even though a friend of theirs has been killed they still fly the missing man formation... a VERY MOVING TRIBUTE, and something that must of been very hard to do, especially as they would of seen the wreckage as they flew by! a really moving tribute to mark to loss of a great pilot/family man/ and the greatest historic WW2 aircraft ever made.

[carelessband]

I must say your defence is in itself insensitive and as a stranger to this feed, i am disturbed by you criticism of the man missing and your personal defence. at a time like this we should all be hailing the pilot, his collegues and family. I am a mere musician but have been involved in aviation for over 25 years. my grandfather is a spitfire pilot and flew hurricaines before that.this is not in anger but in appeal.

regards .J.Liskutin (RAFHA Member)

[1HEXJUMPER]

carelessband

for me the core of the facts is important and not the package nor any wishfull thinking !

check out USAF or any other NTSB crash reports as an example how to handle the facts and nothing but the facts

because they point the finger always on the soar spot and don't spare anyone involved.

[1HEXJUMPER]

WIKIPEDIA

Thus, as seen from the front, the V's left leg is longer than its right. This formation flies over the ceremony low enough to be clearly seen, and when directly over the site, the second-element leader executes an abrupt pull-up, while the rest of the formation continues in level flight until all aircraft are out of sight.

[duffrose2000]

1hexjumper, your a bit of a cunt really arnt you?