Are the Bible stories of Jesus Just Myths? No! Unrefuted!

[StLukey7]

yes they have better equiptment and understanding you fool.....because of Christians invovled in science. quit chasing your tail. since the first strong telescopes were invented the universe was over 20 billion years old....now it is 10 billion and counting. evolution is not even accepted anymore by atheists, ask a harvard atheist they'll tell you darwinism is stupid foolishness, so yes we are making progress...i guess

[StLukey7]

what do you care? its not going to convince you which god...no it is not a ligitmate question because it implies he is there...people are going to think you are a nnut if you do that with anything else. "Hey Luke...where did that cow in the yard come from"??...So I go look out the window. and there is nothing, "Cow? what cow?" whether you or i believe in one or not is not the issue....why ask where something came from if you dont believe it is there. THAT MAKES NO SNESE AT ALL!!!

[StLukey7]

@StLukey7 even if i said "i dont know where he came from?" your conclusion???  : "Well unless you can explain where something comes from, then that something is non existent." HUH??!! Are you nuts?? where did the universe come from..."uh? i dunno?" conclusion:therefore the universe does not exist. STUPID!!!!!

[YelltheRawr]

@Xenophile665 I loved your quote so I put it on my channel :) hope you don't mind! Thanks so much

<3Bethany^.^

[Xenophile665]

@YelltheRawr Of course not. If more people heard it, and followed it, then there wouldn't be as much friction between christians and non-christians. I like quotations that encourage people to be nicer, to be better.

Back to work now, have a fabulous day, Bethany.

[YelltheRawr]

@Xenophile665 Oh dear, I'm so sorry I didn't reply sooner. You see, I have insomnia and sometimes I drop like a rock and sleep. I believe that every emotion has it's use, but to let God deal the judgment. When I said the evidence thing I knew that if I gave you God Himself you would believe me. I can only give an example. Which is me, you, everyone; we are in his image. That is just what I believe. Thank you very much for the compliment as well, it means alot to me :)<3Bethany^.^

[Xenophile665]

@YelltheRawr That's OK, I have insomnia in the opposite direction: I'll wake up in the middle of the night, and not be able to drop back to sleep until the next evening {sigh}. As for the compliment, you're welcome. I have great respect for christians such as you, who actually try to act christian. I don't agree with the theology, but putting love and kindness first is always favorable.

[YelltheRawr]

@Xenophile665 Lmfbo, then I would probably have deserved it and wanted his reaction, as you seem to be wanting. Sir, your sarcasm has no effect upon me..would you like to know why? Because I deal with ruder people than you everyday. I have no probably with you stating your opinion..in a civil manner. Yes, Matrix shouldn't have been mean, but I can see that he was frustrated. You are being uncivil by insulting my intelligence. I have not insulted you once..why must you insult me? <3Bethany^.^

[Xenophile665]

@YelltheRawr Incidentally, do you know why your comments are not showing up in my emails? It is YelltheRawr, correct?

[Xenophile665]

@YelltheRawr I am not insulting you, I am stating fact: according to your holy book, anger puts one in danger of hellfire, Matthew 5:22. It's in the sermon on the mount, and it is quite clear. It is neither a parable nor an allegory. If you are offended, then I can only say sorry. But if you don't see that that is its meaning, then you do not understand the text.

[Xenophile665]

@YelltheRawr After checking out your page, I can see that at least you try very hard to practice what you preach. It's refreshing to meet a christian who tries to show love and genuine concern for others. You might enjoy a quote I once heard, attributed to St. Francis of Assissi: "Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words." That is the impression I get from you, Bethany. You don't preach with words, but with a good example.

[YelltheRawr]

@Xenophile665 *coughs* Uhmmm, actually, it doesn't. You have it wrong. We can be angry all we want and not be endangered by "hellfire" as long as we forgive and to be honest I don't like saying "we" because it makes me feel like christians in general are being pushed away from everyone else. I also can see why he would be angry...your being a bit rude. No amount of evidence would satisfy you. Sorry, Matrix, I know this wasn't my conversation...but I couldn't help myself lol<3Bethany^.^

[Xenophile665]

@YelltheRawr Yes, calling me "sh*t for brains," etc., then apologizing, then calling me other names... Sounds like a real sincere repentance.

Sorry if you can't read your bible and understand it. That's what it says: Anger puts you in danger of hellfire. If my clear manner appears abrupt or "rude" to you, imagine how you would feel if Matrix had addressed you as a "moron," a "sh*t for brains," etc..

[Xenophile665]

@YelltheRawr BTW, when you say to me, "No amount of evidence would satisfy you," you are mistaken. Valid evidence, verifiable evidence, would indeed satisfy me.

It's simply that no such evidence has ever been presented to me.

[Xenophile665]

The Gospel according to Mark was not written by Mark. None of the gospel authors can be verified by other historical writings. (Google Dr. Bart Ehrman, a recognized biblical scholar.)

And even if they could be verified, it does not prove that Jesus rose from the dead. That's like saying the Quran proves that Mohammad was a prophet.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 oh god google bart ehrman refuted lol

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone I have googled bart ehrman refuted. After reading a few of the articles, I saw none that say his claim regarding gospel authorship (i.e., that the gospels were not written by Matt, Mark, Luke or John) is wrong. There is no reliable evidence to the contrary.

I repeat: No reliable evidence is found in historic records that show that Jesus was resurrected and is alive today. The Quran does not prove that Mohammad was a prophet, and the new testament does not prove that Jesus is alive.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 mkay chek my playlist and also the people who christ IS speaking too if you dont understand gods prophets today then you can read ezekiel and daniel in the bible to understand why its evidence of christs deity

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone God has prophets today? Who do you claim to be "god's prophets" today?

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone (BTW, I've read the books of Ezekiel and Daniel several times; neither of them convey any indication that Jesus (of the New Testament) was either a christ, or a deity, or the "son of god.")

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 actually they are prohpets just like the prophets of today god speaks to them the same way also jesus christ they see as well also he admitted he was the son of the blessed one if anyone says otherwise then let em be condemned

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone If "god" has "prophets of today," then they must have names, right? Who are they? What are their names?

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 theyre not famous but they are the same type and thats ordinary people i have alot of them further down in my playlist you can also message them if you have questions

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Ezekiel and Daniel were not "famous" in their time either. But they had names, at least according to the Old Testament. Why are you dancing around the issue? Either give the names of these modern-day prophets, or admit that you don't really know of any.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 no shit theyre all ordinary people so nothing out of the ordinary you act as if i know them personally hell if i know go ask them message them

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone In other words, you can't name any modern-day prophets. Right?

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 right because i dont know them personally

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone That's an inadequate reason for not being able to name them. The fact that you don't know them personally does not preclude naming them. I don't know the mayor of my city personally, but I can name her.

I suspect that the reason you can't name them is because they don't exist.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 yea so the people in my playlist are a figment of my imagination then

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Apparently they are a figment, since you cannot name them.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 LMFNAO!! so im not really talking to you then since i dont know your name gee i guess i must be seeing things

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone You can avoid the topic all you want, using lame attempts at humor - unless you can name these so-called prophets, you're a liar. Period.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 no im not god never said he stopped having prophets you can always message the people in my playlist

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone The people in your playlist are prophets? The same as Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah, et. al.?

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 listen mkay i would say yes because they do the will of god and they have dreams and visions from god mkay the same as daniel and the others you said they all warn the people of whats coming your either willing to listen or you are not

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone If they are prophets of god, their words should be included in the canon of your bible.

As to being "willing to listen or not," you are in the same boat yourself when it comes to the warnings in the Quran and the Book of Mormon - you choose not to listen to them, and I choose likewise.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 actually i know whos a false prophet when i see one mkay yes you do have to know the scriptures how else would you know whos true and whos false mkay who says they dont align with the scriptures are you not paying attention

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone What (or who) is "mkay?" You mention it twice, and it's confusing.

What special power allows you to discern between a false prophet and a true one?

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 special power? uh you just have to pay attention the holy spirit works in each one who follows christ and i mean follows christ im not saying you should trust everyone who claims to have a dream but im just saying pay attention ...mkay honey

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone So you claim to have a special power: the holy ghost communicates with you. Since the existence of a holy ghost is as well-substantiated as the existence of the Easter Bunny, I can only conclude that you are experiencing these revelations solely inside your own brain.

Still don't know what "mkay" means. And don't call me "honey." You don't know me well enough.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 actually the holy spirit does exist i have some vids on the holy spirit you can view them called what is the holy spirit also from pastor david wilkerson hes also very good and the easter bunny dosent exist its really more about being lead by the spirit mkay like i said they are prophets of god doing his will to warn the people also they see jesus returning PRAISE JESUS THE SON OF GOD MY LORD I AWAIT YOU!!!!

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone But these warnings are no different from the warnings in the Quran and the Book of Mormon, and the Old Testament (which, according to rabbinical scholars, is diametrically opposed to the doctrines of the New Test.). They are all claims, made by humans, that they have a channel of communication to "the almighty." What reason is there to listen to David Wilkerson, but ignore the Quran?

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 my dear pay attention i said to look up david on what he speaks on the holy spirit and are the people in my playlist mormons or muslim? i dont think so i mean dont we all claim to serve the same god but have seperate beliefs?

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Exactly. You all claim to serve the same god, and yet you all claim that the others are worshipping falsely. How can an honest man decide which of you, if any, has the correct interpretations of doctrine? He can't.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 yes he can jesus christ said he is the truth the way and the life god cannot lie my friend also chek the vid i just faved

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone You however, can lie, or be misled. You do not know that the words of the Quran or the Book of Mormon are not words of god. You can claim you know it, but you have no decisive evidence in your favor.

BTW, according to your bible, god can and did lie - he told Abraham he wanted Isaac burnt as an offering to him, then later said no.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 my godness you dont pay attention do you and you take me for a fool i dont know where you see god lying lol since if i told you to touch a hot furnace and see if you would do it and i stop you from doing it some how that makes me a liar? no no no my dear also you can look up how not to give dawah from ceeker248 hes very good and allahaleg is good too i have no reason to lie in fact these warning most of them are for the followers to be ready you see please pay attention

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Yes, that would make you a liar.

"Give dawah?" "allahaleg?" What are you babbling?

Don't call me "my dear." You don't know me well enough.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 uh no it wouldnt i would be testing you my friend those channels i gave to you to help you may the lord jesus christ guide you to truth before it is to late on you go now go on

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone He lied. Live with it. He told Abe that he wanted Isaac for a sacrifice. He didn't really want him for a sacrifice. That's a lie.

You didn't give me any "channels." You mentioned a lot of gibberish (dawah, allahaleg, etc.).

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 uh no he did not you do not pay attention my friend mkay honey now please pay attention mkay chek those channels i gave you i wanna see you there mkay thanks sweetie on you go pip pip

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone No, those aren't "channels." And frankly, I don't care to continue to talk to someone who is most likely some sort of pervert: calling me "honey," "dear" and "sweetie" - you apparently have some fetish or other. I have no interest in further communication.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 WELL THATS YOUR LOSS HONEY MAY THE LORD JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD GUIDE YOU TO TRUTH IM HEAR BABY ANYTIME ANYWHERE

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone No, it's not my loss, it's my gain; I no longer have to read your babbling.

You are one of the rudest christians I've ever encountered.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 lol what gain i see no gain and im not rude i just state the facts mkay

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone The gain of knowing that another brainwashed "christian" has doubts about his faith, that you can't use the brain you have to think, and that worries you.

Stating facts is something you have not done, but that is not why you are rude; you're rude because I asked you not to call me by soubriquets such as "honey," "dear," "sweetie," et. al., but you continued to do so.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 uh yes i have one fact your a moron now thats me being rude you like it HONEY

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Sad, really ... all you have to do is use your rational mind, and you'll realize that you've been deceived and lied to. But your dogma is just too important to you, just like any other fundamentalist dogma (Mormon, Muslim, Jehovah's Witness, etc.).

But hopefully, someday, you'll start to think.

[StLukey7]

no such thing as an atheist....NO ONE IS THAT STUPID!

[Xenophile665]

@StLukey7 Believing in talking snakes, magical fruit, zombies, demonic possession, talking bushes, etc.: I wish no one was that stupid ...

... but apparently it's so. (sigh)

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 HEY SHIT FOR BRAINS IN MY PLAYLIST IT ADDRESSES THE TALKING SNAKE, ZOMBIE JESUS, UNICORNS, AND ANY OTHER BAD SHIT YOU PEOPLE CAN THINK OF ALSO YOU DID NOT CHEK MY CHANNELS THAT I TOLD YOU TOO NOR HAVE YOU LOOKED FURTHER DOWN IN MY VIDS DONT TALK TO ME ABOUT NOT STATING FACTS THEY ARE THERE NOT ONLY ARE YOU STUPID BUT YOU ARE A BIG TIME STUPID

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone But I have checked your channels. It's the same lame, apologetic, circular arguments that I've heard since childhood. They are opinions, not verifiable facts or evidence.

And if you are a christian, shouldn't you behave like Jesus? Would he use foul language?

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 first off thats not my problem i have no problem taking it on faith alone in fact faith is logical because i was not there smart ass nor were we there from the begining so shut it

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone First you claim to have explanations and proof of what you believe; now you say it's all a matter of "taking it on faith alone." Hypocrite. Liar. Brainwashed lemming.

BTW, when you get angry, don't you know that your dogma tells you that it endangers you? That you come closer to hellfire? Apparently, you would rather get mad than be a light to others.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 PAY ATTENTION or unless you can invent a time machine and take us to the begining and to when christ was alive so we can see the miracles and him rising from the dead for ourselfs mkay so let me know we you have the time machine ready also my faith is reasonable i have a vid on that called christianity and reason in my playlist

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Didn't see that one in your playlist, but it wouldn't matter anyway. Faith is why Muslims believe what they believe, so faith is not a reliable guide.

You say "take us to ... when christ was alive." Does that mean you don't believe he's alive anymore? I agree.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 i believe we had an origin and a creator i have faith even though i was not there that is what happened and muslims believe alof of things lol and so do athiests somebody is right and i know it is christ

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone No, you "believe" it is christ. You don't know. Neither do I, no one does. Absolute knowledge is a red herring. Humans deal with partial knowledge by determining what is most likely, and acting on that. Except in the area of religion, where, without explanation, all the rules are changed. For fundamentalists, that is.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 uh no i do know smart ass theres enough good arguements and evidence to understand he did rise from the dead also not that i need to prove that i just go to one his prophets you can also chek the vid i faved and send them a message since you have questions and you dont understand shit like what evidence really looks like to begin with

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Still putting yourself in danger of hellfire, Mat? If your savior were real, he'd tell you to you need to calm down. Try reading 1 Corinthians 13, especially verses 4 & 5.

Which "vid i faved" should I "chek?"

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 why dont you try understanding mkay

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Why don't you try telling me the name of the video, "mkay?"

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 you didnt see that vid in my playlist because you dont pay attention honey look next time use your eyes not your ears

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone It would be so easy for you to simply give the name of the vid in your playlist, since I don't see it there (that's called using my eyes, Wahnsinner).

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 i already did christianity and reason also you can message the uploader if you have an objection to his vid and trust me he will respond to you lmfnao

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Is the author CartesianTheist?

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 yes

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Watched it, but it doesn't have any bearing on the key discussion. Most of the comments were sophist in nature. BTW, Luther also stated the exact opposite of this quote, when he said that reason is "the devil's bride," and "the devil's greatest whore." And my favorite: "Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has." Quite hypocritical.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 buddy if you have an objection tell that too him you pussy i aint got nothing better to do mkay so im not going away anytime soon

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone I already told him that. Still waiting for "comment approval."

BTW, you should talk to your local clergy about that mouth of yours. Calling people names like, "sh*t for brains" and "pussy" is not only the sign of an infantile mind, but, according to your dogma, setting you up for hellfire.

Toodle-oo

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 lmfnao well keep waiting then pussy wow some competition youll be

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone So you think that it is a "christian" value that leads you to call me a "pussy" and "sh*t for brains?" Just for laughs, what "loving" scripture from your "prince of peace" backs that up, hmm?

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 uh i think your a puss

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone It does my heart good to know such a "christian" as you: Your lack of patience, your desire to insult rather than instruct, your laughter at the expense of others, your ignorance of your own dogma ...

... is it any wonder that I'm an atheist?

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 actually look at our comments ive been pretty patient lmfnao and do you really think thats logical oh hey i didnt accept you christ because those christians werent acting right this and that oh but wait remeber christ said put your faith in him he never said put your faith in people or hypocrites he said put your faith in him so no your denial is weak

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone No horse's rear, I'm not an atheist because of dolts such as yourself - you merely confirm what I learned long ago, that the doctrine is flawed. Therefore, it results in hypocrites like you.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 oh the doctrine is flawed! oh really smartass you can go tell that to the guy i have faved on my main page from reformedapologist you guys have no winning arguements against theism or christianity no offense but still not a good excuse to deny christ but thats on you mkay honey

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone You make the claim that Jesus rose from the dead, not I. You then stop. No evidence to support your wild claims.

BTW, reformedapologist's video does not show up on your main page.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 no offense but thats bullshit and even though you did not say sorry for calling me rude i forgive your ass anyway like i said my position stands i already KNOW  god exists i dont expect an atheist like you to understand MKAY

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone I didn't say I'm sorry for calling you rude, because you were rude.

Have you still got that potty-mouth problem? "But thats bullsh*t ..." Can't you express yourself with terms that avoid the appearance of evil? Your saint Paul (ne Saul) wouldn't approve. If you "already KNOW god exists," then perhaps you should strive harder to act the way he would want you to.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 yea sure pal i answer only to god not paul

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone So now you claim that Paul was not speaking god's word when he said that? What kind of christianity is it that you follow? I haven't yet heard of one that denies the words of Paul. What is it?

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 excuse me do i answer to paul or god which one do you think has the authority here

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone As far as I'm concerned, neither has the authority. God doesn't, because he is non-existent. Paul doesn't because he spoke for this non-existent. You, however, say you believe, yet you show your hypocrisy everytime you write "lol," "rotflmnao," everytime you call someone by a false, spiteful and deragatory name.

Either follow your holy book's advice, or admit that you have your own personal version of christianity.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 thats why i told you to message the people that see him in dreams and visions also seeing him coming in glory that is the way god has always spoken mainly as far as the resurrection there are descent arguements and evidences i mean if we could prove it without a doubt then there would be no need for faith then

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone There already is no need for faith. Why do you think it's so often referred to as "blind faith?" And if you claim to have actual evidence of tthe resurrection, then post it precisely, give citations.

People also claim to have had visions of Muhammad and Joseph Smith, Jr. Have YOU tried to message them? If not, why not?

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 lol mkay where can i go then smartass ill question them too keep mocking asshole

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Read the Koran, man. Read the forward of the Book of Mormon. Read the Ensign magazine online, its pages are full of people who claim to have had visions of Jesus, Joseph Smith, Jr., etc..

As long as there is foolishness in the world, I will continue to "keep mocking."

You keep showing people what a hypocrite you are by calling them "sh*t for brains" and "a**hole." That'll convince 'em of your sincerity... and your reliability.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 and im telling you to take these questions to the the guy i told you too dumbass i dont need to study like a nerd ill study the works of whom ever as gone over this shit no offense anything that denies jesus the son of god well thats automatically bullshit here i point you in a good direction in my page the main vid that one luis you can send him those stupid questions because your flatout dishonest

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Which main vid in your page, that one luis?" Your syntax is confusing, to say the least.

Tell me specifically how I am "flatout dishonest."

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 oh gee i insulted you again so again im sorry oh brother look man for real nothing personal mkay how are you dishonest? gee i dont know you sound dishonest by the way you speak i mean did you say some doctrines were flawed? well sounds more like bullshit now i guess not that i care what you have to say you told me that my faith is blind and a bunch of other crapola thats comes from your mouth proves you would be the last person i would go to for any advice, answers, or anything

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone In other words, you have a "feeling" that I'm dishonest? No specific instances of dishonesty on my part, just a "feeling." Should I assume that you "sound" like a fanatic, because you "sound" like one? No. It's what you say that counts, not my "feeling" about how you "sound."

The doctrines are flawed, sport. Example: the convoluted and irrational explanation of the so-called Trinity. Another: No evidence that Jesus (or many others) resurrected, and is (are) alive today.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 wow like i said you would be the LAST person i would get any advice or any answers from because the majority of people like you are dishonest like bart ehrman who just lies about shit and get paid for it and idiots eat his shit up because they think oh it must be true no no chewbaca bart doesnt care about truth he cares about well money and since this aint going anywhere cause i sure as shit aint learned a damn thing from you so i guess ill be the bigger man and WALK AWAY MKAY

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone First you claim that the one who walks away is a "pussy." Now you claim that walking away makes you the "bigger man."

Are you too ignorant to see your own hypocrisy in that? Apparently so.

Well, if you want to be the "bigger man-pussy" and walk away, I can't stop you. Adieu, Apfelkopf.

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone ... and you still can't point out one specific instance of my being dishonest. Tsk.

BTW, what does "bart ehrman" have to do with it?

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 oh and you can have the last word i know you people like to just argue and shit not that i care for stuff like that but you go right on ahead if it makes you feel better and all mkay thanks...for nothing

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Try to at least be honest with yourself, if you can't be honest with others: you enjoy arguing just as much as anyone else, hypocrite. You just can't stand staying in an argument where you have absolutely nothing to contribute except other people's opinions and insults, and the other person points it out to you. Of course you want to walk away from it. {And you call ME a pussy? Yeh, right.}

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 no actually i was just a little mad i did try remeber to say sorry and I did try to start over yet you still piss me off so whats the point and yea i am honest did i ever say i was an expert? no i did not mkay ..AHA..AHAHAHA!

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone So your apology means that you don't consider me dishonest?

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone "Dumba**?" "Nerd?" Do all other christians in your circle refer to others with as much venom as you do?

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 no offense i guess its possible to have educated morons thats all like you

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Why do you start phrases with "No offense," and then say something offensive and deragatory, as well as false? A person who is educated, by definition, is not a moron. Learn to use a dictionary before you misuse any more words.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 nothing personal sport and thanks...tool

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone But it was personal. And tool is no better an appellation that "sh*t for brains."

Thanks for what?

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 your a puss because you dont like truth so you run mkay run away run and never return laughs when you learn to be humble and stop denying then youll see how crazy you were for denying god in fact trying prayer may help you mkay honey also i can give you a site for prayer actually working some evidence if you like

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Aren't you conflating the term "puss" with the term coward? Besides, I haven't run away. You're the coward. If calling me foul names is christian and proper, then quote from your holy book, tell me how Jesus said that it's godly to call nonbelievers foul names. Oh, you can't? Thought not.

Don't knock my atheism until you learn to be the christian you claim you are, hypocrite.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 mkay your a coward then and actually i defend my faith mkay is that okay with you sweetie thats what you get for callin me rude REMEBER!

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone But you don't defend your faith, liar. Not with reasoning or argument. All you say is, "chek owt awl theez uther peepul's videohs, they'll tawk four mee, yoo sh*t fer braynes!" and related non-arguments.

If you still believe I'm a coward, then let me know where you'd like to meet.

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone But I do care about things. I'm an individual, not "all you people." I spent a large portion of my life investigating "sh*t," and came to the conclusion that that is exactly what it is: sh*t.

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 look sorry for being an ass but its no joke to me my stance is that god does speak to his prophets and he does warn his people to be ready for whats to come what ever that may be im not gonna force you to accept anything but i do feel like ive pointed you in at least a descent direction with my playlist also some channels i gave you so you cant say i didnt try to help you understand

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone At last! You have the decency to apologize for "being an ass." I accept your apology.

However, as I've previously stated, I've watched most of the vid's on your playlist, some of them even before I knew they were on your playlist. They all use sophistry, lies and/or apologetics that were refuted even before you were born. I find nothing convincing in them.

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Still a liar, eh Mat? There must not be such a video in your playlist. I don't see it there.

Of course, it would take you all of 10 seconds to tell me the name of it, if it exists. Why can't you do that?

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone Why are you posting to my profile? Put it here for others to read.

I have checked out further down your playlist. Your words describe it well: "dumb dumb."

[matrixlone]

@Xenophile665 dont like it dont post on mine

[Xenophile665]

@matrixlone I don't mind you posting on my profile when you have comments about what's on my profile. But if you're going to respond to my comments here, then make the responses here. Is that clear, Apfelkopf?

[StLukey7]

@Xenophile665 id rather believe that a fairy god mother on a pruple unicorn created the universe than what atehists are asking me to beleive. IT ALL POPPED INTO EXISTENCE WITH TIME AND SPACE UNCAUSED OUT OF NOTHING!!! sigh!

[Xenophile665]

@StLukey7 You are misinformed: atheists do not say that the universe "ALL POPPED INTO EXISTENCE WITH TIME AND SPACE UNCAUSED OUT OF NOTHING!!!" You are misinformed about atheists in general, and about the Big Bang Theory in particular. Please become better informed before making rash, false statements.

[StLukey7]

@Xenophile665 ok? keep going.......you posted that you dont believe that the universe maigcally popped into existence....where did it come from. (please dont be one of those childish jr high schoolers and say..."nya nya!! where did god come from??" so tell us all where it all came from? The universe came from _________. fill in the blank.

[Xenophile665]

@StLukey7 I don't know. Like a good scientist, I can admit a lack of knowledge.

The evidence points to a hot, dense universe that was incredibly small. Before that, physics can't yet say, since that is when the space-time (that is this universe) began.

Please become better informed by looking up primal egg (or big bang) theory, say in Wikipedia for a start. Physics does not say that the universe was created "ex nihilo." But these are all items that you can look up for yourself.

[Xenophile665]

@StLukey7 BTW, it is not childish for someone to ask, "Where did god come from?" (Perhaps because I left out the "nya nya!!" part.) It is a legitimate question. The fact that you are tired of hearing it does not decrease its validity.

Putting that aside, which god do you think created this universe? Jehovah? Allah? Osiris? Odin? Avata?

[ApostateOfTheDamned]

@StLukey7 hahahaha your such a douche

[StLukey7]

@ApostateOfTheDamned <---chases his tail in argument i bet!

[ApostateOfTheDamned]

@StLukey7 hahahaa your one to talk

[ApostateOfTheDamned]

@StLukey7 "no ones that stupid"

hahahaa only a fool would make such a statement, so according to you a substantial amount of scientists are stupid.

[StLukey7]

@ApostateOfTheDamned ...id rather say that about of bunch of misguiding and confused scienctists today than say that the vast overwhelming majority founders of science(christians) are stupid. no prob

[ApostateOfTheDamned]

@StLukey7 I'm saying none of them are actual stupid (try finding were i dare you). Plus what do you mean confused scientist they have much better equipment and understanding of how our universe they the early scientist ever did. So saying that Scientist that actually understand what there talking about stupid is ok with you.

[tehMISCftw]

dumb

[Ilamarea]

Lame bullshit.

[garethac81]

Another troubling question: if the Gospel writers were present at the crucifixion, why would they wait SEVERAL DECADES to write about it? Oh Pam...you really haven't thought this through, have you? *shakes head*

[garethac81]

Oh dear. So, the Gospel writers were eyewitnesses to the crucifixion of Jesus? That's amazing...especially since the Gospels were written between 30 and 80 years after the crucifixion, and the average life expectancy of that time was about 30 years! Even if Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were INFANTS when they saw the crucifixion, the chances of all of them surviving until the dates of their respective Gospels are slim to none. Or maybe their freakishly long lives were "a miracle"... *facepalm*