I knew Dilla sampled this, but I'm just now finding out Jim Henson worked with Raymond Scott for a lot of his experimental films. I love making connections.
From a producer perspective, the way he chopped this is banannas. he's like the mozart of the mpc, Gone to soon but will live on forever through his music and genius
@typecastaaron yea true but @ the same time we won't have found this gem if it wasn't for guys like Dilla, that ones that let forgotten classics live on. Thank God for Raymond Scott and J Dilla.
it's a unique genre resurrecting the past. & indirectly promotes & highlights obscure recordings.....
It's the musical equivalent of time travel absorbing artists, genres ,recordings or era. & djing & sampling are the pilots instruments.
Raymond scott was a innovative producer who manipulated classic valve synthesisers which constantly needed tuning to create some outstanding funky music...
i wonder how dilla could know music like that...a tru musical pioneer...i love his work so much, i miss him and damn, in italy i cant get to listen to any of his joints
2 cents.. Much of hip hop now is about looking backward by sampling the things that you grew up or are listening to currently whereas experimental music such as this was created with electronics instruments that this man created himself or were recently invented. It would be more reasonable to compare this to Kool Herc or Grandmaster Flash. Those were the innovaters of Dilla's musical style. But on Dilla's side, he turned a lot of people on to this man.
I had a feeling I'd run into this song someday after hearing it on the DOOM album. Ironically I found it through DJ lance bringing it up. I came looking for raymond scott to sample myself. Talk about great minds think a like.
@OmightyrefleX ...U took the smoke right out my lungs(words out my mouth)! PURE GENIUS. Its that line that made me search out this song. I had to know what she said for real that this amazing cut creator flipped...DILLA U kept Hip Hop alive in my heart through her bad times...LUV U
ok, to put it quite simple, If it wasnt for J-Dilla, i wouldnt have realized who made the sample in the first place. Because I was born WAYYYY after Raymond Scott made this piece (and I think the original score is hot by the way) Thats why im here listening to it right now. J-Dilla was and still is WAY ahead of his time, and so is Ray Scott. Jay Dee didnt steal a got damn thing, he's paying tribute...HELLO!!! sit down and just enjoy hip-hop at its best. Response to devote and bnd's argument.
I knew who it was before Dilla sampled it. Scott's work was practically rediscovered in the 1990s and early 2000s with a few forward-thinking compilations.
So say if The Beatles or Radiohead or (insert random rockband here) covers a song and doesn't add anything new to it..is that OK cause people are more comfortable with white rock than black hip-hop I'm putting it rather bluntly...but come on..
Was it OK that white rock artists stole Black musicians works and made millions off of them?
I never said it was ok....and it's you who said people are more comfortable with white rock.... but to compare these two authors? it cant be done, never ever... Scott was a genious and a visionary, which J Dilla could never become, even if he lived 200 years...
If you think he just looped it and added some 'beats?'
then your kidding yourself
He brought this dusty vinyl into a new light/life
You can argue all you want but you will never have a smidgen of the talent J Dilla had in one finger...He knew more about music than you will ever know.
Who the heck said he just added some beats?! Do they not have ears? Can they not hear? All joking aside, some people don't seem to understand how difficult the kinds of things Dilla does are. This ain't Bad Boy records, it's James Dewitt Yancey.
I really cant deny what you said at the end...But what i'm trying to say is that Raymond Scott knew more about music than you, me and all the J Dillas in the world and should be appreciated and praised respectfully.....Do we agree at least on that?? The sad fact is that music from the old days had much more quality and was made with a lot bigger effort than most of the music from genres popular today....And i just cant exclude J Dilla from that context......
@anthos818: I agree with you anthos. Dilla was the one cat who put in time and effort. bnd221, I understand what you're trying to say, but Dilla played his own instruments, sang vocals and painstakingly chopped up samples until they became something completely new. He went beyond the limits to create his music.
@bnd221 Agree totally.. what Scott did was creation, what Dilla did was rearrangement (not a diss, but this is what he was technically doing musically). If you think it takes more skill to do a remake than an original composition, I'm wondering how many original compositions you've created..
@bnd221 u really dont know shit about dilla and the work he has done dilla is educated from all sorts of genres like classical shit....do ur hw kid and no disrespect to raymond scott i got mad respect for his work as well
@Woscoe1503 I'll just illuminate a quotation from your reply which renders you completely incompetent to participate in this debate: 'dilla is educated from all sorts of genres like classical shit....'
when i look at these words i can imagine how thousand pictures would look like :D
@bnd221 HAHA. some people do make us HH fans look like idiots i'm sorry. i don't agree with what you say about including JDilla in the bracket of effort. He put in a lot of effort, i can't stand the pop and mainstream rap idea of sampling where they just literally take a part of a song and do nothing creative to it. but this was different. in my opinion anyway, raymond scott is a revolutionary and i would of never known about him if it wasn't for j dilla putting him in a modern context. peace
@bnd221 anyone who doesn't agree with this is a little bit stupid. without people like raymond scott we wouldn't have a lot of the music we have now. and as much as i love j dilla of course he's included in that statement.
@bnd221 Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the fact that you say "All the J Dillas in the world" proves you haven't listened to enough Dilla to know that there will only ever be one.
@bnd221 it's absurd that people still cling to these types of beliefs. all styles of art across the spectrum of media are dismissed at first. how about modernity vs. academic painting? how about anything ish i mean are you retarded? people stick with shit until something else changes their mind but that doesn't happen all at once. it's always a process
@devote I'm sorry but it is quite clear that J Dilla did not add much to this track, just a few air horns and a few sounds. This delusional dick riding of Dilla is ridiculous and is ignorant to the fact that someone better than him might come along
and ANYONE that does with your attitude doesn't last long and aren't able to adapt out of there little box there trapped in.
I have a descent vinyl/cd/tape collection of music from the 30s till right this week...See I don't just fall prey to my ignorance and ignore good new music..Sure I love old music just as much as i love new music...
oh, so paying for another man's idea is all good, maybe even equal to something that someone created with his own brain? innovative?!?!?! i'd say lazy..... they do it in every type of music? ye maybe the kind of music u've ever listened to...that seems obvious
all music is influenced by the work of others whether it is acknowledged or otherwise. Hip Hop and other genres of music that use sampling simply accept the fact that no music can be entirely original and engage in a much more direct and open relationship with the music that influences it. Raymond Scott was as much influenced by the conventions of earlier artists as J Dilla was
@dryraininbetween How could you possibly know? He didn't have the access to sampling as such that J Dilla had. If you were to pick a genius out of the two, there should be no no doubt in your mind based on this song that it is Raymond Scott. This song is at least twenty years ahead of its time possibly even fifty, since the beat sounds modern. Fifty years, that's older than J Dilla lived. Raymond is the genius and Dilla is the incremental innovator.
Perhaps J Dilla did take Raymond Scott's work and alter it slightly but, from a postmodern perspective, all Scott did to create this track was compile a number of musical influences in his life to create the music as we hear it. Essentially all art can be seen as a mashup of influences, hip hop just directly quotes those influences and cites them rather than rewording the influences into something different in entirety. J Dilla just used electronics to make music differently
@dryraininbetween There's a huge difference between influence and directly sampling an entire track. All Scott did? You're trying to dimminish Scott's efforts and equate them to Dilla's work aren't you?
lets not get heated on the subject. What I am trying to say is that their method of creating music has some inherent similarities. Whether one can be held above the other as more genius is subjective. I listen to Scott more than J Dilla personally but I don't consider Dilla any less of an artist. The fact that Dilla decided to revive this track shows that he has great respect for Scott so I'm not sure why his sampling would bother you so much
@dryraininbetween I never said that the sampling bothered me, I mean ffs it's hip hop, it's to be expected. But was isn't to be expected is equating sampling as creating an entire track from scratch (obviously using musical influences). That isn't subjective. That's just a fact.
I can respect that opinion. I personally consider the technical aspects of Scott's work as being some of the most breakthrough advances in modern musical production.
I guess i just see the musical aspect in a different way
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some ppl are confusing a real work of art and plagiatism....what is this j dilla doing among comments under this piece? if put beside mr. Scott, he'd just fade away in the wind like trash...
i'd rather chop my arm off than make money in such discrediting and hummiliating manner to the authors from which these lowlifes STEAL material for their retarded pieces u call hip hop or even music....YUCK....even if i ever decided to make money that way, i at least know there will be enough idiots like you to support me:D
i dont have an idea how this music is made? as a studio technician i think i do, and i have a feeling i would as a miner also.....the word is EFFORTLESLY....i believe you listen to various 'music produces' as you say, which are chopped up finely, i believe u that also, but i was talking specificaly about the disgrace J dilla made out of this song. What did he do there?!??!?! what?!?!? looped a part of the song and added some beat......WHOA IM GONNA CUM, IT'S GENIALITY AT IT'S BEST.
it's so geniusly crafted it can almost be compared to beethoven...gimme a break and dont be smart about music...really cba by people who build their music standards on producers like J dilla...that shit he made out of this song isnt even music...but after all we agree in one thing: no one who watched some puffy&eminem videos is eligible to say shit about music in general, so go and see some more, and maybe listen to something from when they didnt make videos yet...
i don't think raymond scott would approve of you being such an asshole especially to another guy that obviously holds him in the same regard as you do..
I have a background in dialogue editing, and strong pitch recognition from my musical chops. The edit was pretty obvious to my ears, but maybe not to the average joe.
nah its the a combination of the S from "light up the S"... and "Flips" but the trick is to trim back a little on Flips and catch the S from the end of Does "heart doeS>flips.
I sampled it and tried it my way, robles way, godspalaces way..
trust me.. its what I said. try it if you have a sampler.
i gotta give much respect to j.dilla for sampling a really great tune! this is amazing!! the original and the j. dilla version r.i.p. mr.dilla gem collector forever ! he brought originality to hip hop!
this beat without dilla is still hard!!! what did dilla do? my mind is now blown you can be an ill producer just put a drummer track on a ill song and say "listen up"? this is te best song ever on doughnuts. thats it i'm going to a record store to find and oldsong andput an 808 on it. see you at the gramys.
you're not a dumb ass, i take that back. you are just young. you keep living and you will get to a point when you just ARE. 4give the dumb ass remark. peace
love the tape hiss...this song makes me happy..
I hope it does you
scitsalcoryp 7 hours ago
this ones a banger
dglassb1 3 weeks ago
This is your Grandpa's dubstep.
TheDinosaurDrugs 1 month ago
Instrumental version is even better.
cometothesabbat 1 month ago
Dilla Dilla Dilla... n he chopped the voice so it says light up a spliff, so fucking dope. i cant believe this was made that ong ago. good shit
beauevans 1 month ago
this is madness:)
LOWOWLmusic 1 month ago
I knew Dilla sampled this, but I'm just now finding out Jim Henson worked with Raymond Scott for a lot of his experimental films. I love making connections.
whitewallwonder 2 months ago 3
i agree the way dilla flipped this was incredible.
royalnaz1 2 months ago
wow ...that's the definition of avant-garde
Spunjo1221 2 months ago
A Lot of Happiness here
Thank You God
scitsalcoryp 3 months ago
who is the singer
MsBarbablu 3 months ago
Raymond Scott probably had an iPod too. And drove a DeLorean at 88 mph.
MrSamWhitemoon 4 months ago 7
best track on Donuts. tho there're so many good ones.
awesome to be able to hear the original.
lonelywolfy 4 months ago 2
ohhh shit, this guy is fucking waaaay ahead of his time
mechazaowa 4 months ago 2
I love Raymond Scott's stuff, way ahead of his time.
Turbo187KillerB 6 months ago 4
man, if i was still doin Hip Hop radio i would play this joint st8 up! no blend,just raw...i need this record!!!
illson72 7 months ago
knives219 must be deaf, how can DOOM out flip Dilla!!!
djaystlouis 8 months ago
the first rap song?
sleestack808 8 months ago
Mind fck ! Sounds so fresh, like it couldnt be over 10 years old.
StudioKillah 9 months ago
For sure ahead of its time!
aware0311 9 months ago
So fresh!
aware0311 9 months ago
where can i find 'Manhattan Research Inc" ?
eenurj 9 months ago
This dude was clearly ahead of his time
DefineAfroSoul 9 months ago 16
Raymond scott>dilla
123456vp 9 months ago
@123456vp no need to compare the two. they were both innovators in their own right. why cant we just enjoy them both respectively.
poopstack 9 months ago 2
From a producer perspective, the way he chopped this is banannas. he's like the mozart of the mpc, Gone to soon but will live on forever through his music and genius
Kportis28 9 months ago 2
unquestionably better than the dilla edit
parnowihavetogoblind 10 months ago
the way Dilla flipped this is incredible.
soopaman216 10 months ago 6
This is soooo sick
uhohwhoops 11 months ago
sounds alot like Björk!
Anirml 11 months ago
"the name of the game is....Raymond Scott" soooo ahead of his time, pure GENIUS!
:D
KrissyKr1s 1 year ago 4
the world needs more raymond scott types.
transitaautomatic 1 year ago
Raymond Scott = GENIUS
rolffz 1 year ago 2
DILLA
shortah15 1 year ago
Light up the spliffs
HexicNexus 1 year ago 5
@HexicNexus That probably has to be the greatest moment in sampling history.
Chuckus69 1 year ago 6
wow, this was made 60 years ago?!? sheeeeeeeeeeeeeet. AMAZING.
thebrokenhomes 1 year ago 15
Dilla FTW!!!!!!!
dwadefan4lyfe2 1 year ago
so awesome
sharpsponge 1 year ago
jay deeeee RIP.
moniqe123 1 year ago
this man raymond was waaaaay ahead of his time
dope!
onunazodnem 1 year ago
lightworks is actually longer than this
zwerty007 1 year ago
WOW! the original is killin! i'm losin faith in producers cus the og samples are so fckin hard
typecastaaron 1 year ago 2
@typecastaaron yea true but @ the same time we won't have found this gem if it wasn't for guys like Dilla, that ones that let forgotten classics live on. Thank God for Raymond Scott and J Dilla.
Teriyaki32186 1 year ago
he barely had to do anything. this is already fantastic
other6people 1 year ago
Too many people misunderstand hip hop.
Hip hop uses music to make new music.
it's a unique genre resurrecting the past. & indirectly promotes & highlights obscure recordings.....
It's the musical equivalent of time travel absorbing artists, genres ,recordings or era. & djing & sampling are the pilots instruments.
Raymond scott was a innovative producer who manipulated classic valve synthesisers which constantly needed tuning to create some outstanding funky music...
rip dilla..
tygaelement 1 year ago 7
just amazing music and a amazing man.
transitaautomatic 1 year ago
i wonder how dilla could know music like that...a tru musical pioneer...i love his work so much, i miss him and damn, in italy i cant get to listen to any of his joints
fabiopercy 1 year ago
Dilla is def the G.O.A.T. of beat making
dwadefan4lyfe2 1 year ago
2 cents.. Much of hip hop now is about looking backward by sampling the things that you grew up or are listening to currently whereas experimental music such as this was created with electronics instruments that this man created himself or were recently invented. It would be more reasonable to compare this to Kool Herc or Grandmaster Flash. Those were the innovaters of Dilla's musical style. But on Dilla's side, he turned a lot of people on to this man.
sethmojo 1 year ago 3
After she says the name of the game i think it is going to say i see you peeing in you pants sissy
likenem 1 year ago
The FlyLo remix of Lightworks is sooo dope. This is even more amazing.
rishbob 1 year ago
this shit is dope..dilla flipped it..does that shit say the 50's & 60's?..that's a pretty high tech sound for that era..this shit got flavor..
6angelo9 1 year ago
was this like the first techno because some of the beats don't sound organic
i know techno is from detroit but i'm saying this kind of sounds like it
likenem 1 year ago
So good.
pattyluss 1 year ago
man, if was still djing parties i would've found a way to play this joint!
illson72 1 year ago
DILLA
beertron7 1 year ago
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When I hear this I wanna be 8 years old "meddling" in a laboratory with different potions, and possibly create something amazing
VinceDirty 1 year ago
When I hear this I wanna be 8 years old "meddling" in a laboratory with different potions, and possibly create something amazing
VinceDirty 1 year ago
When I hear this I wanna be 8 years old "meddling" in a laboratory with different potions, and possibly create something amazing
VinceDirty 1 year ago
♥
MrMLD72MLD 1 year ago
my theme song! ;-)
ThatWasMyPoptart 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this! For serious.
retrolyte 1 year ago
light up the spliffs everyone!
dnjp4life 2 years ago 8
Allright.
wow.
cant belive how much dilla chopped this up.
-.-*
Hes still genius... just surprised.
Pieperson277 2 years ago 16
I had a feeling I'd run into this song someday after hearing it on the DOOM album. Ironically I found it through DJ lance bringing it up. I came looking for raymond scott to sample myself. Talk about great minds think a like.
Spideredge 2 years ago 2
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this is better than j dillas. way better
other6people 2 years ago
the name of the game is surely lightworks! damn! im making it linger..the name of the game is YOU. baby!
futuristfood 2 years ago
i love how dilla flipped the voice making her say "light up the spliffs!" ahaha
OmightyrefleX 2 years ago 71
@OmightyrefleX hahahaha your right :D
VIttoVendetta 2 years ago
@OmightyrefleX YO!!!! I KNEW THATS WHAT I HEARD!!! IM NOT ALONE ON THIS !!!!!!
myish08 1 year ago
@OmightyrefleX ...U took the smoke right out my lungs(words out my mouth)! PURE GENIUS. Its that line that made me search out this song. I had to know what she said for real that this amazing cut creator flipped...DILLA U kept Hip Hop alive in my heart through her bad times...LUV U
mamamoon78 1 year ago
@OmightyrefleX I was wondering if it said that inthe real song lol
12345enterhit 1 year ago
♥
MrMLD72MLD 2 years ago
J dilla just made it easier to spit a rap off of it
R.I.P
likenem 2 years ago
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also sampled by MF DOOM!!! look up lightworks by mf doom
stevesk8r 2 years ago
@stevesk8r MF Doom didnt sample it. Its a J Dilla production.
anthos818 2 years ago 78
@anthos818
well, i sorta meant that
whatever lol
stevesk8r 1 year ago
@anthos818 yeah he did, because dooms version is slightly different <-- if that means a little bit different
lyricsfromsweden 1 year ago
@lyricsfromsweden mf doom just altered the dilla beat so he cud rhyme over it
OfficialReKLisT 1 year ago
@anthos818 nonetheless, a DOPE ASS TRACK
giannid93 1 year ago
@anthos818
DOOM did sample it actually, but it's true, the great J Dilla was first
sammaroney 1 year ago
@anthos818 MF Doom did sample it... And its hell of a lot better than J Dillas version
Knives219 8 months ago
@Knives219 no he didnt lmao
OfficialReKLisT 7 months ago in playlist samples
@Knives219 He rapped over J Dilla's beat, he didnt sample it .
TheObscureMind 5 months ago
@stevesk8r Its a dilla beat, but doom rhymes on it
Kayyoooo 1 year ago
@stevesk8r got it from dilla!
Ostee1 1 year ago
@stevesk8r j dilla made it, i wonder what mf doom would have flipped it into...
5Kpro 1 year ago
ok, to put it quite simple, If it wasnt for J-Dilla, i wouldnt have realized who made the sample in the first place. Because I was born WAYYYY after Raymond Scott made this piece (and I think the original score is hot by the way) Thats why im here listening to it right now. J-Dilla was and still is WAY ahead of his time, and so is Ray Scott. Jay Dee didnt steal a got damn thing, he's paying tribute...HELLO!!! sit down and just enjoy hip-hop at its best. Response to devote and bnd's argument.
warhero23 2 years ago 3
I knew who it was before Dilla sampled it. Scott's work was practically rediscovered in the 1990s and early 2000s with a few forward-thinking compilations.
iantm 2 years ago
well isn't that good for you? practically rediscover THIS!!!
dashiellhouse 2 years ago
how would you know who knew more about what then who? different is not more or better. things change as time goes on.
but most importantly:
THERE IS AND WILL ONLY EVER BE ONE J DILLA!!!!
DON'T YOU EVER FUCKING FORGET THAT!!!
dashiellhouse 2 years ago
Raymond Scott and J Dilla perfect examples of people ahead of their times.
danihali 2 years ago 5
Dilla was really a virtuoso of his time.
RIP Dilla.
I still can't believe he managed to sample all of this Avant-garde / kitschy modular work into Hip Hop. Kills me.
rffffrf 2 years ago
if it wasnt for i would know nothing about raymond scott. so stfu, hip hop has made me appreciate all types of music.
777marv 2 years ago 5
So say if The Beatles or Radiohead or (insert random rockband here) covers a song and doesn't add anything new to it..is that OK cause people are more comfortable with white rock than black hip-hop I'm putting it rather bluntly...but come on..
Was it OK that white rock artists stole Black musicians works and made millions off of them?
devote 2 years ago
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I never said it was ok....and it's you who said people are more comfortable with white rock.... but to compare these two authors? it cant be done, never ever... Scott was a genious and a visionary, which J Dilla could never become, even if he lived 200 years...
bnd221 2 years ago
wonderfully put
dashiellhouse 2 years ago
Are you saying The Beatles paid no royalties to The Isley Brothers for their nearly identical cover of "Twist and Shout" or are you just ignorant?
keithhyman 2 years ago
If you'd read some of my earlier posts you would have noticed me mentioning 'royalties'
So your assumption about a song I didn't even mention is ridiculous.
devote 2 years ago
If you think he just looped it and added some 'beats?'
then your kidding yourself
He brought this dusty vinyl into a new light/life
You can argue all you want but you will never have a smidgen of the talent J Dilla had in one finger...He knew more about music than you will ever know.
devote 2 years ago
Who the heck said he just added some beats?! Do they not have ears? Can they not hear? All joking aside, some people don't seem to understand how difficult the kinds of things Dilla does are. This ain't Bad Boy records, it's James Dewitt Yancey.
HuggumsMcgehee 2 years ago 4
I really cant deny what you said at the end...But what i'm trying to say is that Raymond Scott knew more about music than you, me and all the J Dillas in the world and should be appreciated and praised respectfully.....Do we agree at least on that?? The sad fact is that music from the old days had much more quality and was made with a lot bigger effort than most of the music from genres popular today....And i just cant exclude J Dilla from that context......
bnd221 2 years ago
@bnd221 I think you need to check out more of Dillas work.
anthos818 2 years ago 16
@anthos818: I agree with you anthos. Dilla was the one cat who put in time and effort. bnd221, I understand what you're trying to say, but Dilla played his own instruments, sang vocals and painstakingly chopped up samples until they became something completely new. He went beyond the limits to create his music.
chicagoconnoisseur 1 year ago
@bnd221 Agree totally.. what Scott did was creation, what Dilla did was rearrangement (not a diss, but this is what he was technically doing musically). If you think it takes more skill to do a remake than an original composition, I'm wondering how many original compositions you've created..
worldofbong 1 year ago
@bnd221 u really dont know shit about dilla and the work he has done dilla is educated from all sorts of genres like classical shit....do ur hw kid and no disrespect to raymond scott i got mad respect for his work as well
Woscoe1503 1 year ago
@Woscoe1503 I'll just illuminate a quotation from your reply which renders you completely incompetent to participate in this debate: 'dilla is educated from all sorts of genres like classical shit....'
when i look at these words i can imagine how thousand pictures would look like :D
bnd221 1 year ago
@bnd221 HAHA. some people do make us HH fans look like idiots i'm sorry. i don't agree with what you say about including JDilla in the bracket of effort. He put in a lot of effort, i can't stand the pop and mainstream rap idea of sampling where they just literally take a part of a song and do nothing creative to it. but this was different. in my opinion anyway, raymond scott is a revolutionary and i would of never known about him if it wasn't for j dilla putting him in a modern context. peace
FKRAPCITY 1 year ago
@bnd221 anyone who doesn't agree with this is a little bit stupid. without people like raymond scott we wouldn't have a lot of the music we have now. and as much as i love j dilla of course he's included in that statement.
eggynapalm 1 year ago
@bnd221 Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the fact that you say "All the J Dillas in the world" proves you haven't listened to enough Dilla to know that there will only ever be one.
kuriosity89 1 year ago 2
@bnd221 it's absurd that people still cling to these types of beliefs. all styles of art across the spectrum of media are dismissed at first. how about modernity vs. academic painting? how about anything ish i mean are you retarded? people stick with shit until something else changes their mind but that doesn't happen all at once. it's always a process
freethodunk 1 year ago
@devote I'm sorry but it is quite clear that J Dilla did not add much to this track, just a few air horns and a few sounds. This delusional dick riding of Dilla is ridiculous and is ignorant to the fact that someone better than him might come along
gshooting 1 year ago
You are acting like a fool...sad
I also study & work at a music studio
and ANYONE that does with your attitude doesn't last long and aren't able to adapt out of there little box there trapped in.
I have a descent vinyl/cd/tape collection of music from the 30s till right this week...See I don't just fall prey to my ignorance and ignore good new music..Sure I love old music just as much as i love new music...
devote 2 years ago
and that is just one part of the song...and you've gotta be kidding yourself if you don't think producers have to pay royalties to use this stuff..
This is called being innovative they do it in every type of music movie book genres.
devote 2 years ago
oh, so paying for another man's idea is all good, maybe even equal to something that someone created with his own brain? innovative?!?!?! i'd say lazy..... they do it in every type of music? ye maybe the kind of music u've ever listened to...that seems obvious
bnd221 2 years ago
all music is influenced by the work of others whether it is acknowledged or otherwise. Hip Hop and other genres of music that use sampling simply accept the fact that no music can be entirely original and engage in a much more direct and open relationship with the music that influences it. Raymond Scott was as much influenced by the conventions of earlier artists as J Dilla was
dryraininbetween 2 years ago
Well Said
BabEEBro 2 years ago
@dryraininbetween How could you possibly know? He didn't have the access to sampling as such that J Dilla had. If you were to pick a genius out of the two, there should be no no doubt in your mind based on this song that it is Raymond Scott. This song is at least twenty years ahead of its time possibly even fifty, since the beat sounds modern. Fifty years, that's older than J Dilla lived. Raymond is the genius and Dilla is the incremental innovator.
gshooting 1 year ago
@gshooting
Perhaps J Dilla did take Raymond Scott's work and alter it slightly but, from a postmodern perspective, all Scott did to create this track was compile a number of musical influences in his life to create the music as we hear it. Essentially all art can be seen as a mashup of influences, hip hop just directly quotes those influences and cites them rather than rewording the influences into something different in entirety. J Dilla just used electronics to make music differently
dryraininbetween 1 year ago
@dryraininbetween There's a huge difference between influence and directly sampling an entire track. All Scott did? You're trying to dimminish Scott's efforts and equate them to Dilla's work aren't you?
gshooting 1 year ago
@gshooting
lets not get heated on the subject. What I am trying to say is that their method of creating music has some inherent similarities. Whether one can be held above the other as more genius is subjective. I listen to Scott more than J Dilla personally but I don't consider Dilla any less of an artist. The fact that Dilla decided to revive this track shows that he has great respect for Scott so I'm not sure why his sampling would bother you so much
dryraininbetween 1 year ago
@dryraininbetween I never said that the sampling bothered me, I mean ffs it's hip hop, it's to be expected. But was isn't to be expected is equating sampling as creating an entire track from scratch (obviously using musical influences). That isn't subjective. That's just a fact.
gshooting 1 year ago
@gshooting
I can respect that opinion. I personally consider the technical aspects of Scott's work as being some of the most breakthrough advances in modern musical production.
I guess i just see the musical aspect in a different way
dryraininbetween 1 year ago
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devote 2 years ago
LOL
DoeRaker 2 years ago
FUCKING GENIUS!!!!!!! I DONT CARE WHAT YOU HATERS SAY...... i thought it was from a commercial from the 70's
myish08 2 years ago 6
Same here.
LLMelvinL 2 years ago
raymond one and only shall enther tha gates of haven
1nikolica 2 years ago
sikkk. 5 stars
longrodv0nhugendong 2 years ago
J D is fo shure amazing But az a DJ don't forget what Dj Means (even in composing but don't forget Tha real artists dat he remixe
eldimitor 2 years ago
J dilla is a god in music
rocafella2k10 2 years ago
bwahahaha
bnd221 2 years ago
lmao. you're an asshole.
themanimal07 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
some ppl are confusing a real work of art and plagiatism....what is this j dilla doing among comments under this piece? if put beside mr. Scott, he'd just fade away in the wind like trash...
bnd221 2 years ago
what the hell is wrong with you
Regigigas135789 2 years ago
ignorance
bennybompson 2 years ago
yes, you're right...ingorance is all that new age hip hop shit deserves.....EVERYONE can sample something which someone else has done with talent...
bnd221 2 years ago
Then go make money then..?
Why can't you...hmmm maybe it's because you have no idea how hip-hop let alone music is made with an ignorant statement like that..
devote 2 years ago
i'd rather chop my arm off than make money in such discrediting and hummiliating manner to the authors from which these lowlifes STEAL material for their retarded pieces u call hip hop or even music....YUCK....even if i ever decided to make money that way, i at least know there will be enough idiots like you to support me:D
bnd221 2 years ago
Wow..
Are you happy making ignorant statements about music you obviously know noting about..
Just cause you've watched some puffy & eminem videos does not mean you have room to say shit about real hip-hop or real music in general...
Again you have no idea how this music is made!
How can you say steal there work...?
Most of the music produces i listen to chop things up so finely there using it as notes to a whole different song..
devote 2 years ago
i dont have an idea how this music is made? as a studio technician i think i do, and i have a feeling i would as a miner also.....the word is EFFORTLESLY....i believe you listen to various 'music produces' as you say, which are chopped up finely, i believe u that also, but i was talking specificaly about the disgrace J dilla made out of this song. What did he do there?!??!?! what?!?!? looped a part of the song and added some beat......WHOA IM GONNA CUM, IT'S GENIALITY AT IT'S BEST.
bnd221 2 years ago
it's so geniusly crafted it can almost be compared to beethoven...gimme a break and dont be smart about music...really cba by people who build their music standards on producers like J dilla...that shit he made out of this song isnt even music...but after all we agree in one thing: no one who watched some puffy&eminem videos is eligible to say shit about music in general, so go and see some more, and maybe listen to something from when they didnt make videos yet...
bnd221 2 years ago
i don't think raymond scott would approve of you being such an asshole especially to another guy that obviously holds him in the same regard as you do..
jonkinthetonk 2 years ago 3
what are you doing to offer in place of what you don't like?
dashiellhouse 2 years ago
Rest In Beats JAY DEE!!!
ReaLrecoGnizeREAL71 2 years ago 3
I always wondered where that synthy horn came from.
TheModestShowman 2 years ago
wow this is some lsd shit props to Raymond Scott and Dilla!
JahGuidanze 2 years ago 2
JDILLA AND PETE ROCK
jy1723 2 years ago
ur ring finger lol
namkooc 2 years ago
wish i wasn't just a wee one while he was still living. i would love to have met him!
i made a lady gaylord music vid (song from this album)
FakeCowGod 2 years ago
Man I thought the Dilla version was creepy, this one is definitely more cracked out. And all these sounds in the 60s? Mad props to Raymond Scott.
Petary791 2 years ago 8
Thanks for this posting, This is a rare find... Dilla was on some next level shit when he sampled it (R.I.B.)
EddieWordMusic 2 years ago 6
J Dilla is the fuckin man!
EternalGuardian07 2 years ago 4
CoSign!
TripleXBeatz 2 years ago 2
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EternalGuardian07 2 years ago
How did Jay get the singer to from this song to say in his song "light up the spliffs"?
dxarmy94 2 years ago 4
Editing.
"Light up the.." from "Light up the Sky"
+
"Sp" from "sparkle"
and "ips" from "lips".
"Splips" sound like "spliffs"
=
"Light up the spliffs"
I have a background in dialogue editing, and strong pitch recognition from my musical chops. The edit was pretty obvious to my ears, but maybe not to the average joe.
roblegit1212 2 years ago 8
i think its a lil bit simpler he just took light up the sky and heart does flips
light up the s-flips
godspalace1 2 years ago 2
It tis heart does flips. that little voice crack is right in there.
roblegit1212 2 years ago
I thought it was pretty easy to spot.
2f2fbattlepope 2 years ago
u kinda proved he was the best producer ever just now
clutchyhopkinz 2 years ago 2
nah its the a combination of the S from "light up the S"... and "Flips" but the trick is to trim back a little on Flips and catch the S from the end of Does "heart doeS>flips.
I sampled it and tried it my way, robles way, godspalaces way..
trust me.. its what I said. try it if you have a sampler.
TripleXBeatz 2 years ago 2
I think godspalace1 is right, you're over complicating it.
UrbanCrunkMovement 2 years ago
at what time? All i hear is 'his heart does flips'
franksvenatra 2 years ago
you have to give credit to raymond scott
deadlyErnest1 2 years ago 8
Dilla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
insomniajo 2 years ago
I literally thought there was a game named Lightworks. -_-
TB4000 2 years ago 9
i gotta give much respect to j.dilla for sampling a really great tune! this is amazing!! the original and the j. dilla version r.i.p. mr.dilla gem collector forever ! he brought originality to hip hop!
nerdsound 2 years ago
dilla...genius. no other adjective. seriously.
BIGPCT93 2 years ago
or a noun like, um, mozart?
brireif 2 years ago
wow...
deadlyErnest1 2 years ago
THA COLD WAR WAS REAL. REAL HEADS KNO IT
601already 2 years ago 3
wow the original is pretty spacey. Dilla of course made it hot!
LongDivision8 2 years ago 4
this beat without dilla is still hard!!! what did dilla do? my mind is now blown you can be an ill producer just put a drummer track on a ill song and say "listen up"? this is te best song ever on doughnuts. thats it i'm going to a record store to find and oldsong andput an 808 on it. see you at the gramys.
marlon661 2 years ago 7
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You obviously are not a producer, it's very very hard to find drums to fit perfectly with a sample especially one like this.
zxain 2 years ago
your a dumb ass. if its in you its in you. its not work, its first nature. it comes. its in you. you keep workin and let those that BE, BE
marlon661 2 years ago 2
you're not a dumb ass, i take that back. you are just young. you keep living and you will get to a point when you just ARE. 4give the dumb ass remark. peace
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