Hmm, does this guy ever explain why we can see two jets flying at the same altitude and only one has a so called persistent contrail? Also, what about Rosland Peterson's video where she shows that no planes should be flying over certain areas but they do and always leave persistent contrails. Is the humidity and temperature always just right everyday over your area as that is how "persistent contrails" work... I think not. Never explains those things, or Morgellons??
I prefer IMPARTIAL opinions... you're just trying to disprove chemtrails all together, without backing anything up (except for a bunch of old newspaper clippings from a time when science was still in it's infancy, and things like HD cameras and the internet were non-existant)
This is an excellent video because it raises real questions. I posted "Chemtails in 1944" and I show a picture of a sky that will make you gasp! I did. In 1944, WW2, when most planes were props and Germany had most Jets, the sky is slathered. The picture is from the 1956 International Cloud Atlas. And this same picture was/is used thru at least 1987 ICA. I have both books. And the news article shown here is worth investigating. But Chemtrails are real
@Epoxynous No, Something is wrong. I would like skydaddy AlGore to take a stand but he wont. some persistent trails may be contrails but not all. too many people are obtaining big numbers of aluminum and barium in water samples. I never see these planes land at Fresno, not in 100 trips in 3 years. Not that I blame anyone for flying past Fresno.....
Which people? They are finding big numbers because they are doing it wrong, often doing things like testing sludge instead of water, or testing old snowpack, or simply getting their units wrong. No municipal water supply (and there are hundreds of them, who all test the water every year) has reported these big numbers.
Did you know that aluminum makes up 8% of the earth's crust. Hence it's in every speck of dust. Pretty hard to keep a few micrograms out of your water sample.
@Epoxynous Perhaps some people do something wrong in sampling. I know bureaucrats do! And what ever it is, it's not solids in fuel. putting aluminum in solution and it coming out in the exhaust isn't the answer. For this to be real means it's mixed, micron sized stuff, some kind of storage, emitted in air. what I see are not commercial jets. None land at Fresno, the number of planes and the inconsistency in their appearance in the sky shows me they aren't regular scheduled aircraft
@Epoxynous I guess because they are 30,000+ ft. But you would think someone would have a nice camera that could zoom to good resolution at 5-6 miles. A friend has a lens from a U2 he got at a Lockheed garage sale. it has a resolution of 4inches at 100,000 ft. From C 1965. He should know he designed entire cockpit array's, every emitter and receiver. So, some nut needs to find a good lens and shoot some good pics. Seems like for $5K or so a cam-corder should pick up enough info to say something.
Watch out for the disinfo.Chemtrail aerosol programs are real.They are NOT a hoax.Our atmosphere is full of these particulates RIGHT NOW.And yes,you are breathing them.We all are.
Watch ( chemtrails- UK footage ). In this video there are 3 jets in formation. The jet that is ahead of the other 2 has NO trail @ the same altitude. Another video to watch
is - ( Canadian Chemtrail Documentary. ) Keep researching.
peace? after the abuse and language you consantly dished out? you really dont know what hypocrite means either do you? LOL - you better get back to the set joker, batmans calling ya
"just sit in a corner somewhere overnight - Im sure one of your other personalities will keep you company for now.....gnight "
Just sit in your basement with your tinfoil hat on and hide from the chemicals. I'm sure one of your other youtube log-ins will be around soon to back you up and parrot all of your ridiculous bullshit. You morons like to stick together.
Who says I'm lonely? Another stupid assumption from the dumb cunt chemtrailer.
Also, I'm no joke. The information is available for you to read and understand. You choose NOT to read OR understand aviation and meteorology. If anyone is a joke it's you for making comments about a subject you know nothing about.
Did you use whatever search to look up those terms yet? Did you find out HOW important it is that we have these systems in place to weed out the nuts (chemtrailers, in this particular case)? Come on, show me a single bit of evidence you retards "have" and tell me, does it pass peer review? Was the scientific method used to verify the data? NOPE No such evidence exists. And never will.
There isn't a shred of verified evidence to support the chemtrail myth. There is TONS of circumstantial evidence. But NOTHING that can't easily be explained away in a court of law.
What you idiots THINK you see in the sky, and what is actually happening are two completely different things. You don't know this because you are ignorant of the facts and apparently always will be.
I gave you some evidence - there is much more, but you can't comprehend it - its ok, someone else will save your children because you're too cowardly to do it. Easier to pretend its not happening and it will all go away...............
Use any search engine. The info will be the same. Stupid.
I never claimed to be an expert on anything. I have claimed to be educated. There is a difference. I'm not surprised that you don't KNOW the difference.
I have tried to search for "proof of chemtrails" and all I keep getting are silly blogs and chemtrail videos on youtube. There just isn't anything mainstream.
And the reason that only paranoia sites and youtube videos come up is because there is no proof of chemtrails.
"No, the information will not be the same regardless of what search engine you use - who's the stupid one?"
You are!
So, you think the definition of "peer review" and "scientific method" are going to change between search engines? Sorry stupid cunt, it doesn't work that way. You can use any engine to search for definitions. The pages that come up MAY be different, but I just wanted you to understand the importance of these things.
"You clearly have no idea about search engines either - "
Stupid, the terms "peer review" and "scientific method" will not change in definition between search engines. It doesn't MATTER which engine you use because I don't CARE about which sites come up. The definition from ALL sites will be the same for these terms. Stupid cunt.
Why can't you understand this simple concept?!
I guess you are trying to ACT intelligent. You are failing.
LOL - no wonder no one takes you seriously - you have no idea what you're talking about - and the saddest thing is you're the only one who cant see it LOL
"LOL - no wonder no one takes you seriously - you have no idea what you're talking about - and the saddest thing is you're the only one who cant see it LOL"
strange how you constantly accuse me and others of being paranoid, yet you insisted that both myself and another person were one and the same.........................are those headaches coming back again? Have a lie down, its obviously too much for you.
Also, I like that fact that you don't understand what paranoia means.
I'm not "paranoid" that you and that person are the same, I'm speculating, or assuming.
But I don't fear anything about it.
You idiots FEAR the "chemtrails" that come out of planes because you think someone is spraying you with "poison" (or whatever the chemical of the day is for you people). You think you are being "attacked".
I don't think you and your supposed friend are out to hurt me.
Yes, actually, I am VERY bright about the subject of aviation. I have been involved in the industry for a long time. I know enough about the subject to know you are an absolute moron when it comes to aviation. You couldn't be less educated about the subject.
Actually, one of the subjects I studied for quite some time was psychology.............and you totally exposed your nature to the trained eye immediately.
Well, psychology has nothing to do with contrails. No wonder you are a moron about the subject. When you have studied aviation in school for 4 years and applied that knowledge to a 33 year career, then we will talk about your knowledge. Right now, you have actually NO understanding of aviation, jet engines, weather systems, pressure systems, avionics, aeronautics, navigation systems, contrails, conditions at altitude and SO MUCH MORE!
did anyone say psychology has anything to do with contrails? nope. Only you suggested that.
BTW, you're doing well having a 33yr career - you must have started young because according to your profile, its not possible lol........maybe go back to school and learn how to count?
"did anyone say psychology has anything to do with contrails? nope. Only you suggested that."
I asked about your education and that is what you said you are educated in. Of course it has nothing to do with contrails. It's OBVIOUS you have no education in that subject.
I started taking flying lessons at 10 years old. Yes, I did start young.
LOL - you really don't read properly yet do you? I said it was 'one' of the subjects that I am educated in - not the only one - I've done much more with my life.
i suggest you use your 'supposed' intelligence to learn how to use your mac, because according to you, Im a 'stupid cunt' etc etc, and yet I managed to teach myself how to use one many years ago...........strange that.
This 'stupid cunt' knows alot more than you might think.
I've been a PC guy all my life and recently purchased my first mac. I never claimed to be an expert at it. If there is something I could learn from you, someone more experienced than me at it I would gladly listen.
Please let me know what I've done wrong so I can correct it.
I have no problem admitting that I don't know everything. That seems to be YOUR hangup though! No one is going to tell you that you didn't earn your education by watching a shitload of videos made by other morons!
"If anyone with any common sense looks at these posts, I'm sure you'll see that I have shown evidence."
I wouldn't be so sure about that. You have not provided any evidence that the trails I see over my house today contain anything other than ice and combustion gases.
You haven't provided any evidence to support a single claim.
Are you writing as if talking to an audience now?! Wow! that is fucking CREEPY!
LOL- ok, you obviously don't realise that these posts are public. Yes, that means that other people can read them. If you want to call that an audience, then do so.
If you feel that posting a response in public is creepy, then I suggest you stop using you tube immediately.
Do you keep calling me that name because its been said to you so many times? I would assume so. Your vocabulary is limited.
Please don't have children in case its hereditary. It really wouldn't be fair to them.
I never said it wasn't stupid. All I'm saying is it doesn't have MUCH traffic. And what does this have to do with your complete lack of knowledge on the subjects of aviation and meteorology and the accusations and assumptions you make against an industry you know nothing about?!
Stay on topic, cunt.
I'm waiting for evidence of "extra" chemicals in the air where these trails are being "sprayed" (LOL!!!).
Please provide some evidence that planes are responsible.
Also, I made a mistake. It was 2000 in 2 years. I guess I'm a bit math dumb, See, we all have our shortcomings. It's best to admit them, move on, and learn from our mistakes. If you learn about aviation and meteorology, you will understand just how ignorant you are at this moment.
"Are you writing as if talking to an audience now?! Wow! that is fucking CREEPY! "
which, logically means you thought no 'audience' can see this. You're not a good liar and constantly correct yourself so give yourself a break and get a hobby apart from insulting people.
I'm sure you must be very lonely - thought of joining a chat room? Unfortunately you won't be able to use your favourite word there though
"logically means you thought no 'audience' can see this."
Oh fucking christ. My point was that you and I were having a one on one conversation. No one else was actively involved and there is no reason to give anyone WATCHING our conversation any "instructions".
Man, you really ARE retarded! I was joking before, but seeing how you completely miss nuances in the English language, I can't help but conclude you are incapable of understanding simple logic.
Just something you clearly don't understand either - you can insult me and call me or anyone childish pathetic names for the rest of your life, but thats not going to make the facts go away unfortunately. I wish it would.
"Just something you clearly don't understand either - you can insult me and call me or anyone childish pathetic names for the rest of your life, but thats not going to make the facts go away unfortunately."
So true. And when you finally learn the facts, you will understand just how absurd and paranoid your beliefs based on a lack of education, are. I can't wait for that to happen for you morons.
Please also try to understand - when a government has admitted using planes to spray the population, along with vans adapted for this purpose, that is whats commonly known as 'evidence'.
Ongoing means its happening now, or 'going on' presently. That is the quote from their own spokesperson.
In light of this evidedence, retarded people won't acknowledge the facts.
Let me guess - your area uses flouridated water? thought so.
"I correct myself - I spelt evidence wrong - Im sure you'll pick up on that rather than face the facts. "
Like a give a fuck that you made a simple mistake. Stupid cunt.
It's the HUGE mistake you make that bugs me. Believing you understand all there is to aviation and meteorology just by watching youtube videos and visiting conspiracy websites is absurd!
You know NOTHING about jet engines, weather, aviation, navigation..and on and on. But you KNOW we are being sprayed.
"You dont understand the meaning of evidence, its pointless."
Wow! What a completely hypocritical statement! You have no concept of "peer review" or "scientific method". You jump to conclusions based on complete ignorance and magically transform your retarded opinion to "fact" (lol!) in your own head. You IGNORE scientific and aeronautical fact to do so!
If that isn't indicative of mental illness, I don't know what is!
But you keep thinking you know it all, without an education.
The government has admitted to past instances of "spraying" (although you haven't proven how they disperssed the"chemicals" years ago) So, how does that relate to "spraying" today?! There is no evidence to link the two things together.
I understand the definition of ongoing. It's your assumption that the part of the research that involved "spraying" is ongoing. That is an assumption. You know NOTHING about this research. It's all speculation on your part.
""Hmmm....I'm confused. What was this in reference to?"
yes, you were confused from the start - that much is clear."
I never claimed to be perfect.
You have NOT shown me that chemtrails exist. There is no such evidence. How could you suggest they do? You mean cloud seeding equipment?! Don't be ridiculous. That has nothing to do with the trails we see anywhere. You haven't proven any connection between your paranoia of weather mod. equipment and persistent contrails we see in the skies.
I don't recall ever stating that all contrails are chemtrails - I also don't recall ever stating that contrails don't exist - it is you who arrogantly keep insulting and saying that chemtrails don't exist when I've given you proof that they do. .....and what do you do with that proof? Ignore it and insult.......
Your arrogance will be the death of you and your family.
.".........and some people also insist the holocaust never happened in light of the proof too. Sad."
That IS sad, but irrelevant. Stop trying to suggest that just because i deny that "chemtrails" exist, that I'm denying the Holocaust. This is nothing like that. I am referring to a rejection of known science/ aviation facts in favor of assumptions and bullshit.
I'm simply defending my education against complete ignorance on the subjects of aviation and meteorology.
so it would seem that from an idiots point of view - the world has to pretend these things aren't happening, and then when it finally comes out in the media that it is, then and only then do we acknowledge that it has been happening for years...........but then we convince ourselves that its ok now because they've finally admitted it...........
shame you believe everything you're told by the same govt who poisoned members of your family then denied it for decades..............
I dont think I need to say anymore - but if anyone has any common sense here - im sure they'll read over all the comments and see my point immediately.
I'm against chemtrails, which you say don't exist, but which I showed you that equipment is on the market which distributes them. Which part of that don't you understand?
all of it Im sure - have a nice life - dont worry, someone else will help your children - you certainly won't.
ok, put very very simply - there is only ever a certain amount of water in the world which has to be recycled - with me so far?......it gets recycled by the 'sun' evaporating it and drawing it up into the clouds, whereupon the clouds rain, beginning the process over again. It is not possible to 'produce' water by cloud seeding - it is literally being 'stolen' from elsewhere.
Cloud seeding has been done for decades. It's not a secret, and never has been. Nobody denies there is cloud seeding.
Does a Dam not interfere with the "natural process" of the water cycle? How about the reservoir you get your drinking water from? How about the taps and drains? Any of that natural?
look at my video called 'snow' and read the info to the right - I have lots of links to 'weather modification' sites where equipment can be bought or hired for chemtrails or 'weather modification' as they like to call it sometimes.
weathermod,com - go to the project page and see their list of clients.
Well in that case, I suggest you look again 'properly' at that site and notice the 'seeding' equipment shown. Some common sense will tell you that it is the same equipment used for cloud seeding, which uses chemicals to seed clouds. Perhaps you feel injecting chemicals into our skies is fine?Perhaps you don't realise that when rain is 'made' somewhere, it means that somewhere else is drier than usual?
I have the post of the 1944 "Contrail" in England. This is Fighter jets. 1 engine. Odd we dont see fighter jets making 300 mile long "contrails" . now its all these multi engine things.. Why is that. why the crisscrossing of sky thru many 1000's feet of air and laterally, all criss crossed. like the 1944 photos I have posted
Once ther sky is cloudy the planes can fly above them....Thats a nice collection of evidence. We'll see where this leads. I might point out that planes had been in the sky for 40 years. So why 1944? If gas engines do this why is it so startling in 1944. But we both have a 1944 date. I have more books coming. Text is hard to cheat.
You're wasting your time with this kid - looks like he's already been brainwashed by the system (does the term 'get em while their young' sound familar?)
Probably gets all his information from wikipedia and nasa too. This one's either working for them but doesn't realise it yet. Go to weathermod,com - this one can't see the link...........like I said - too far gone. It's sad - kids nowadays dont know how to think any longer - its not school policy.
I've seen two jets, in the same sky, at the same time, at the same alitude, (they were the same size), with the same conditions, and one left a line and one didnt.
Hows that work then?
Not only that, but I've also seen the higher altitude plane leave no line, but a much much lower one DID, again the same sky, same time, same conditions.
That seems contradictory to me hence my questions and suspicions.
Oh please, it is impossible to tell that from 30,000 feet below and the planes can be separated by just a few hundred feet (even less) and be in different atmospheric conditions. You need to understand that the atmosphere is a fluid and has pockets of differing air above and below areas of other air. This is just fact!
You say "same conditions" but there is NO WAY you can tell that from the ground.
Deny what? Nobody is deny that cloud seeding happens. It's been going on for decades.
It looks nothing like thin trails in the sky though. They seed clouds - meaning the clouds are already there when they add the chemicals. Often it is done from the ground.
please go to weathermod,com and learn how they 'do' use planes to carry out weather modification. Look at the site, don't remain in ignorance - its not fair to your brain.
really? so they don't (as you insisted) seed from the ground using existing clouds?.......you're missing a valid point here - if these existing'clouds' were rain clouds, then there would be no need for the seeding - or didn't they explain that part to you?
as I said before - common sense can't be taught - that much is blatantly obvious.
The seed both from the ground and from the air, depending on needs and conditions.
The existing clouds are rain clouds, the cloud seeding is intended to INCREASE the amount of rainfall (sometimes from zero, as the rain cloud might not fully develop locally otherwise)
Have you ever noticed that whenever you make a valid, truthful point with these people, they just move on to another bit of nonsense in hopes that you won't have an answer for their next point based on a lack of education.
They NEVER acknowledge that they were wrong about the previous point.
Oh well, I don't expect much from these people anyway.
"common sense can't be taught - that much is blatantly obvious"
Oh man!
You are living proof of THAT, sister!
Common sense should tell you stupid chemtrailers that maybe someone with an education in these fields could offer some insight into the things you don't understand.
Nope, instead you fucking morons push those who understand where YOU make your mistakes, away forever. You call them "shills" and make up stupid lies.
I hope you paranoid idiots NEVER learn the facts!!
My advice would be to research porton down in the UK. This is just one of many examples. It's ok, apology for your stupidity is accepted. It was expected. No worries.
My advice would be to read a fucking book about meteoroogy and then learn a LITTLE bit about aviation.
Also, just because something was done once in the past and documented, doesn't mean it's happening ALL the time. Stupid cunt!
For every retarded point you retards bring up based on circumstantial evidence, there is a FUCKING FACT In a science, meteorology or aviation book that explains your stupid bullshit away. You are just too stupid and uneducated to know that!
So, you think that if any Govt were spraying you, they'd ask your permission or even tell you it was happening? Im just curious here.
I must say, you're a very trusting person.
An ideal member of the public from their point of view.
If it hadn't been for the freedom of information act, do you think we'd be aware that the Govt had used chemicals on us in the past even now? They only admit what they have to - and even then they lie.
I am VERY educated. I studied these subjects in college and flew around the eastern united states for many years.
You are just wrong and it's because you are ignorant. You are a stupid cunt spreading lies about an industry you know NOTHING about.
There is NO EVIDENCE to support the accusation that anyone is spraying anything on you. There is some circumstantial BS that you people USE as evidence, but it just doesn't hold up to scrutiny against actual facts on the subjects.
Sorry, bad language doesn't equate with a lack of education. I use the words, because you deserve them. You are an arrogant asshole who knows nothing about these subjects but feel you need to post your absurd opinions regardless of that fact.
You malign an industry that you know nothing about simply because you are arrogant, and paranoid.
What does the admission of an act from the past have to do with the present.
It's a huge assumption to say since it was done once or twice, it must be happening all over the world at this moment.
There is also NO PROOF that anything is going on. Do you have any idea how many independent labs measure your air quality, all around the world?! They don't find what you claim. THE END!
Just out of curiosity - can you point me to the book which explains the 'real' reason they're spraying barium, infected blood cells, live viruses, and other diseases and heavy metals into the air?
Of course, as you say, there's a logical reason for all of this - which book is it?
Just out of curiosity, could you direct me to a single lab report that states an unusual increase of ANY chemical in the sky associated with any airplane?
The video about the hick with the jars in his backyard has been debunked completely.
Please provide me with a SINGLE report from any reputable lab that states, without a doubt, that airplanes are the cause of increased ANYTHING in the air.
Your own paranoia requires that you visit sites that are all about "chemtrails" INSTEAD of sites that explain aviation and how it interacts with weather. You are unaware of a whole other world of knowledge. YOU made the decision to hook up with the nuts and agree with everything THEY say, while ignoring the basics of proven science and aviation principles.
Aviation and meteorology explains EVERY ridiculous claim made by you people.
Every youtube video about "chemtrails" is about contrails.
please can you give me the name of that book you speak of which explains why they're spraying us with chemicals and disease? I'm sure, as you say, there's a logical explaination, there must be.
As you insist, its all a mistake, the govt have never done that to us in the past, I'm just paranoid.
ANY meteorology book directed toward pilots will give you the info you desperately need! These aren't "secrets", they are facts, and if one understands aviation and meteorology, they understand that "chemtrails" are a hoax that stupid people fall for.
There isn't a specific book on these subjects. You could get a basic meteorology book from the library and START to understand your atmosphere. Then, if that ever happens, you could get a book about aviation/jet engines.
.........and you say that these books will explain why its logical to spray chemicals and diseased blood over a population? I can't wait to read them.
No, you stupid cunt. The books explain that when you THINK you are seeing a plane spray something, you are actually seeing science in action. There is no spraying. Only stupid assholes who think there is.
Please show me proof that "diseased blood" or ANY chemicals have been found in the air that have come from airplanes. There isn't a single shred of proof to back up your retarded claims.
Hey stupid cunt, do you understand how the water cycle works? I didn't think so! look it up!
this is a good site as well - of course I wouldn't be able to understand it as Im a dumbass, paranoid twat, cunt - but you might be able to understand why there is equipment here to modify planes? Oh no, they don't modify the planes do they? they're exhaust fumes - my memory is terrible. I keep forgetting.
shall I assume you won't bother to look at the link? Even better, look at the projects page and read this part:
Our clients include private and public insurance companies, water resource management organizations, and federal and state government research organizations.
Because while he's trying to bother me, he's leaving someone else alone lol................and you do realise he actually now thinks we're the same person? LOL
Well, you idiots can jump to conclusions, so can I.
It's logical.
there are only so many chemtrail retards in the world.
I'd so probably 50 or so, each with a few hundred accounts. There can't be any more of them. The rest of the population KNOWS they are paranoid idiots!
idiots? plural now eh? You accept I'm not both myself and someone else?......remember not everyone has a split personality........its wise 'not' to judge everyone else by your own standards......
I'd say that the equipment photographed 'for sale' and 'for hire' on that site is just a little piece of evidence, wouldn't you?
How about you phone them and tell them they're lying? Tell them they don't attach equipment to the wings of planes - you should know, you've read a book.
I don't understand what you are getting at with that link. I actually took the time to e-mail these people and they said that you idiots are bothering them all the time with your stupid assumptions.
You know NOTHING about your atmosphere. You have no idea how a pressurized cabin works, or what a pitot tube is, or how a jet engine compresses the air. You know NOTHING about aviation, yet you KNOW you are right about this paranoid bullshit.
I know that the 'exhaust fumes' that you've been banging on about are likely equipment attached to the wings of planes.
Call me paranoid and insult all you like - thats exactly what people like you did to the population of Porton Down all those years ago - history often repeats while people have the memory of a goldfish.
I wish you well - you seem like a really nice person with such a warm heart - it just shines through. Take care.
Please, learn about meteorology and aviation if you can tear yourself away from making a fool of yourself on youtube.
I would bet my life on the fact that I'm right. I sleep well at night knowing I invested in an actual education on these subjects instead of falling for a stupid hoax.
You talk about a "warm heart", yet you malign an industry you know nothing about because you see lines in the sky you know nothing about. You are a heartless, stupid cunt!
wow you have such a personality, I can see why people love you. I bet you're never lonely, I can imagine you have scores of friends with the amount of compliments you dish out.
I may not have much of a personality when I encounter you lying dimwits, but I certainly have the education to back up my words!
I am loved by all who I love. I have a wonderful family and you know nothing about me. You are making some pretty strange assumptions here. And I don't know why you are bringing these things up. Strange.
Let's get back to your ignorance about persistent contrails. Please provide me with a link from a reputable lab that states airplanes are dropping chemicals.
I am one of very few sources that has tried to help you people understand that ignorance in aviation and meteorology is your only problem. But, you all insist on believing these myths over scientific and historical facts.
I can't help it if you would rather be ignorant.
And why WOULD I waste my time trying to get you people to educate yourselves? Because I'm a "shill"?!? Please, that is such a paranoid copout!
.....think you need to wake up, then go somewhere and get a grip.
montavestaman 4 weeks ago
Hmm, does this guy ever explain why we can see two jets flying at the same altitude and only one has a so called persistent contrail? Also, what about Rosland Peterson's video where she shows that no planes should be flying over certain areas but they do and always leave persistent contrails. Is the humidity and temperature always just right everyday over your area as that is how "persistent contrails" work... I think not. Never explains those things, or Morgellons??
SilkMeadow 5 months ago
@SilkMeadow Yep go visit his site. contrailscienceDOTcom
Jamster303 2 weeks ago
This video's pretty badly done...
I prefer IMPARTIAL opinions... you're just trying to disprove chemtrails all together, without backing anything up (except for a bunch of old newspaper clippings from a time when science was still in it's infancy, and things like HD cameras and the internet were non-existant)
TheDarthChop 8 months ago
This is an excellent video because it raises real questions. I posted "Chemtails in 1944" and I show a picture of a sky that will make you gasp! I did. In 1944, WW2, when most planes were props and Germany had most Jets, the sky is slathered. The picture is from the 1956 International Cloud Atlas. And this same picture was/is used thru at least 1987 ICA. I have both books. And the news article shown here is worth investigating. But Chemtrails are real
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
@IExposeMormonism So by "chemtrails", you just mean normal persistent contrails?
Epoxynous 1 year ago
@Epoxynous No, Something is wrong. I would like skydaddy AlGore to take a stand but he wont. some persistent trails may be contrails but not all. too many people are obtaining big numbers of aluminum and barium in water samples. I never see these planes land at Fresno, not in 100 trips in 3 years. Not that I blame anyone for flying past Fresno.....
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
Which people? They are finding big numbers because they are doing it wrong, often doing things like testing sludge instead of water, or testing old snowpack, or simply getting their units wrong. No municipal water supply (and there are hundreds of them, who all test the water every year) has reported these big numbers.
Did you know that aluminum makes up 8% of the earth's crust. Hence it's in every speck of dust. Pretty hard to keep a few micrograms out of your water sample.
Epoxynous 1 year ago 2
@Epoxynous Perhaps some people do something wrong in sampling. I know bureaucrats do! And what ever it is, it's not solids in fuel. putting aluminum in solution and it coming out in the exhaust isn't the answer. For this to be real means it's mixed, micron sized stuff, some kind of storage, emitted in air. what I see are not commercial jets. None land at Fresno, the number of planes and the inconsistency in their appearance in the sky shows me they aren't regular scheduled aircraft
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
@IExposeMormonism So why can't someone take a good photo of these odd aircraft?
Epoxynous 1 year ago 2
@Epoxynous I guess because they are 30,000+ ft. But you would think someone would have a nice camera that could zoom to good resolution at 5-6 miles. A friend has a lens from a U2 he got at a Lockheed garage sale. it has a resolution of 4inches at 100,000 ft. From C 1965. He should know he designed entire cockpit array's, every emitter and receiver. So, some nut needs to find a good lens and shoot some good pics. Seems like for $5K or so a cam-corder should pick up enough info to say something.
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
@IExposeMormonism
Google image search for dobsonian slr contrail
You can get a setup like that for well under $1000. So why no photos of suspicious planes?
Epoxynous 1 year ago
Watch out for the disinfo.Chemtrail aerosol programs are real.They are NOT a hoax.Our atmosphere is full of these particulates RIGHT NOW.And yes,you are breathing them.We all are.
IwontConform 1 year ago
@IwontConform
Why don't you go read a book on meteorology and learn something about the atmosphere rather than parroting nonsense you read on the internet
Grommo 1 year ago 2
Epoxynous you are flogging a dead horse.
Get real and switched on before it's too late.
When it finally comes to a head your ass will be definately on the line.
You're just a pawn and a fallible one at that.
Good luck with the bullshit.
eruditemaestro1 2 years ago 2
Watch ( chemtrails- UK footage ). In this video there are 3 jets in formation. The jet that is ahead of the other 2 has NO trail @ the same altitude. Another video to watch
is - ( Canadian Chemtrail Documentary. ) Keep researching.
madderthanalex 2 years ago
Look what I filmed.
dhjw 2 years ago
peace? after the abuse and language you consantly dished out? you really dont know what hypocrite means either do you? LOL - you better get back to the set joker, batmans calling ya
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Trust me, I didn't really mean it.
You really don't understand sarcasm, do you?
Fucking retard.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
LOL - batmans calling ya
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Have you learned how a cloud forms yet or are you destined for eternal ignorance?
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
LOL - Batman wants ya
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
What temperature is it at 26,000 feet? On average for the New England region.
Just curious. Do you know how to find out?
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
Ok now robins getting in on the act - he's calling you too LOL
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
OK.
Goodbye.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
LOL
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
just sit in a corner somewhere overnight - Im sure one of your other personalities will keep you company for now.....gnight
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"just sit in a corner somewhere overnight - Im sure one of your other personalities will keep you company for now.....gnight "
Just sit in your basement with your tinfoil hat on and hide from the chemicals. I'm sure one of your other youtube log-ins will be around soon to back you up and parrot all of your ridiculous bullshit. You morons like to stick together.
Goodnight, cunt.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
LOL - you're a joke - no wonder you're lonely
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Who says I'm lonely? Another stupid assumption from the dumb cunt chemtrailer.
Also, I'm no joke. The information is available for you to read and understand. You choose NOT to read OR understand aviation and meteorology. If anyone is a joke it's you for making comments about a subject you know nothing about.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
time you got a hobby maybe? LOL
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
This is my hobby.
Well, one of them.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
name calling? yeah, doesn't suprise me from a lonely old man who needs a friend
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"name calling?"
Yes, I call a stupid ignorant cunt who lies about things she/he /it does NOT understand, in the least.
I have plenty of friends.
When will you retards understand that jumping to conclusions and making stupid assumptions PROVES that you are ignorant?!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
you're funny - you really dont know
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"you're funny - you really dont know "
I sure know more than you will ever know.
Did you use whatever search to look up those terms yet? Did you find out HOW important it is that we have these systems in place to weed out the nuts (chemtrailers, in this particular case)? Come on, show me a single bit of evidence you retards "have" and tell me, does it pass peer review? Was the scientific method used to verify the data? NOPE No such evidence exists. And never will.
You fail.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
I fail? ROFL - anyone would think you are qualified to say that - you really think you're important don't you? ha ha - joker
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"I fail? ROFL "
Yes, and I find it just as funny.
I am qualified. I am educated on the subject.
The bottom line:
There isn't a shred of verified evidence to support the chemtrail myth. There is TONS of circumstantial evidence. But NOTHING that can't easily be explained away in a court of law.
What you idiots THINK you see in the sky, and what is actually happening are two completely different things. You don't know this because you are ignorant of the facts and apparently always will be.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
just thought I'd pop back to say hi and see whether you're still the loser you were earlier..........yep, you are.
take care friend.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
You're very boring but I'll pop back from time to time to say hi to you and other cuntrailers......oops I meant contrailers LOL
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"You're very boring"
And you are very ignorant.
I know you will never know just HOW ignorant you are. It's OK, I know!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
...........and if you think I'm going to block you - think again - LOL - I eat people like you for breakfast - you amazing person you..........
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"...........and if you think I'm going to block you - think again - LOL - I eat people like you for breakfast -"
When that happens, I will let you know.
So far, you are batting zero. You can't provide a single bit of truth to back your retarded accusations. There are no such things as "chemtrails".
You are just too uneducated on the subject to realize that.
Please, a SINGLE bit of evidence to prove your side of the discussion...anything? Any lab report that says chemicals are found...any?
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
I gave you some evidence - there is much more, but you can't comprehend it - its ok, someone else will save your children because you're too cowardly to do it. Easier to pretend its not happening and it will all go away...............
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"I gave you some evidence -"
LOL!!! sure ya did!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
still don't know what evidence is do you?
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"still don't know what evidence is do you?"
I sure do!
Let me know when you have some.
Please google "scientific method" and "peer reviewed" and then show me how much evidence you have that falls under those categories.
Just because you are easily convinced by circumstantial bullshit, doesn't mean you have "evidence". Maybe you need to look that word up, also.
And you idiots have the nerve to call others "sheeple".
There is no dumber creature on the planet than the chemtrailer.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
Not sure if google is the best search out there to be honest, but of course, you'd know best, being the expert and all that.
Try looking up 'proof of chemtrails' and Im sure you'll find some more evidence to ignore.
gnight, cya tomorrow friend lol.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Use any search engine. The info will be the same. Stupid.
I never claimed to be an expert on anything. I have claimed to be educated. There is a difference. I'm not surprised that you don't KNOW the difference.
I have tried to search for "proof of chemtrails" and all I keep getting are silly blogs and chemtrail videos on youtube. There just isn't anything mainstream.
And the reason that only paranoia sites and youtube videos come up is because there is no proof of chemtrails.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
No, the information will not be the same regardless of what search engine you use - who's the stupid one? You once again show how little you know.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"No, the information will not be the same regardless of what search engine you use - who's the stupid one?"
You are!
So, you think the definition of "peer review" and "scientific method" are going to change between search engines? Sorry stupid cunt, it doesn't work that way. You can use any engine to search for definitions. The pages that come up MAY be different, but I just wanted you to understand the importance of these things.
I'll bet you STILL don't know.
Look them up
Stupid cunt.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
You clearly have no idea about search engines either -
find two different ones, type your keyword in and view the results. See? wrong again LOL - whats new?
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"You clearly have no idea about search engines either - "
Stupid, the terms "peer review" and "scientific method" will not change in definition between search engines. It doesn't MATTER which engine you use because I don't CARE about which sites come up. The definition from ALL sites will be the same for these terms. Stupid cunt.
Why can't you understand this simple concept?!
I guess you are trying to ACT intelligent. You are failing.
You are a very ignorant cunt.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
LOL - no wonder no one takes you seriously - you have no idea what you're talking about - and the saddest thing is you're the only one who cant see it LOL
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"LOL - no wonder no one takes you seriously - you have no idea what you're talking about - and the saddest thing is you're the only one who cant see it LOL"
Ironic, considering the facts.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
yeah, you just dont know how ironic it all is - thats the funny part
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"yeah, you just dont know how ironic it all is - thats the funny part "
Oh, I sure do!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
LOL
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Could you tell me how a cloud forms. Please?
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
LOL
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
That's what I thought.
OK, bye.
I hope you educate yourself properly, someday.
Peace.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
LOL
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
strange how you constantly accuse me and others of being paranoid, yet you insisted that both myself and another person were one and the same.........................are those headaches coming back again? Have a lie down, its obviously too much for you.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"strange how you constantly accuse me and others of being paranoid, yet you insisted that both myself and another person were one and the same..."
So, you can make assumptions, but I can't? At least my assumptions are logical. The assumptions you make about aviation are ignorant.
I still say the chances are excellent that you are indeed the same person. I don't know it for fact, I suspect.
No headaches, no need to lie down.
Just more stupid speculation on your part.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
Also, I like that fact that you don't understand what paranoia means.
I'm not "paranoid" that you and that person are the same, I'm speculating, or assuming.
But I don't fear anything about it.
You idiots FEAR the "chemtrails" that come out of planes because you think someone is spraying you with "poison" (or whatever the chemical of the day is for you people). You think you are being "attacked".
I don't think you and your supposed friend are out to hurt me.
Stupid cunt.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
ha ha
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
You're really not bright are you?
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"You're really not bright are you? "
Yes, actually, I am VERY bright about the subject of aviation. I have been involved in the industry for a long time. I know enough about the subject to know you are an absolute moron when it comes to aviation. You couldn't be less educated about the subject.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
gangstagrannie = mythoughtsalone
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
some more than others it would seem.
take care friend.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"some more than others it would seem."
What subject did you study in college?
I studied aviation, meteorology and became a pilot that flew all around the Eastern United States. What are your qualifications.
Where did you study these subjects?
Oh yeah! Youtube! I forgot.
I'm sure you've read some blogs also. Bravo!
You have sure schooled ME on the subject, even though you were unable to provide a single fact to back up your position.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
Actually, one of the subjects I studied for quite some time was psychology.............and you totally exposed your nature to the trained eye immediately.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Well, psychology has nothing to do with contrails. No wonder you are a moron about the subject. When you have studied aviation in school for 4 years and applied that knowledge to a 33 year career, then we will talk about your knowledge. Right now, you have actually NO understanding of aviation, jet engines, weather systems, pressure systems, avionics, aeronautics, navigation systems, contrails, conditions at altitude and SO MUCH MORE!
Yet, you think you know your being "sprayed".
Pathetic.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
did anyone say psychology has anything to do with contrails? nope. Only you suggested that.
BTW, you're doing well having a 33yr career - you must have started young because according to your profile, its not possible lol........maybe go back to school and learn how to count?
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"did anyone say psychology has anything to do with contrails? nope. Only you suggested that."
I asked about your education and that is what you said you are educated in. Of course it has nothing to do with contrails. It's OBVIOUS you have no education in that subject.
I started taking flying lessons at 10 years old. Yes, I did start young.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
LOL - you really don't read properly yet do you? I said it was 'one' of the subjects that I am educated in - not the only one - I've done much more with my life.
Have you realised you tube is public yet?
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"LOL - you really don't read properly yet do you? I said it was 'one' of the subjects that I am educated in"
If you haven't studied aviation or meteorology, I don't give a shit. You are commenting about subjects you know nothing about.
"Have you realised you tube is public yet? "
Of course I know. I have always known.
If you understood the English Language, you would know that.
Please read what I wrote, again. Understand the sarcasm.
Stupid cunt.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
LOL
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
You thought it wasn't public LOL
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Ya know what? Never mind, forget I've said anything.
They are spraying you. They want you dead, I don't blame them.
They're comin' to GETCHA!!!!!
SPRAY ON BOYS!!!!!!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
You seriously think that someone would help you after the way you speak to people? There really is something wrong then.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
i suggest you use your 'supposed' intelligence to learn how to use your mac, because according to you, Im a 'stupid cunt' etc etc, and yet I managed to teach myself how to use one many years ago...........strange that.
This 'stupid cunt' knows alot more than you might think.
take care friend
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
I've been a PC guy all my life and recently purchased my first mac. I never claimed to be an expert at it. If there is something I could learn from you, someone more experienced than me at it I would gladly listen.
Please let me know what I've done wrong so I can correct it.
I have no problem admitting that I don't know everything. That seems to be YOUR hangup though! No one is going to tell you that you didn't earn your education by watching a shitload of videos made by other morons!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
LOL
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
If anyone with any common sense looks at these posts, I'm sure you'll see that I have shown evidence.
This other person is so lacking in intelligence its frightening. So busy throwing insults that he/she can't see past the end of their nose.
Feel free to look back at the name calling and decide for yourself if logic has any place there.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"If anyone with any common sense looks at these posts, I'm sure you'll see that I have shown evidence."
I wouldn't be so sure about that. You have not provided any evidence that the trails I see over my house today contain anything other than ice and combustion gases.
You haven't provided any evidence to support a single claim.
Are you writing as if talking to an audience now?! Wow! that is fucking CREEPY!
Yes, I called a cunt, a cunt.
I can't be blamed for your shortcomings.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
LOL- ok, you obviously don't realise that these posts are public. Yes, that means that other people can read them. If you want to call that an audience, then do so.
If you feel that posting a response in public is creepy, then I suggest you stop using you tube immediately.
Do you keep calling me that name because its been said to you so many times? I would assume so. Your vocabulary is limited.
Please don't have children in case its hereditary. It really wouldn't be fair to them.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"LOL- ok, you obviously don't realise that these posts are public"
Yeah, 2000 views in 3 years. VERY public, indeed!
I call you a cunt, because you are a cunt.
You lie about an industry you know nothing about
You claim chemicals in the air where none are found.
You claim past deeds is proof of present deeds.
Sorry, you are a stupid cunt. It's not MY fault you fail!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
LOL - read my last post - I rest my case.
You didnt know this was public - ha ha - sorry but you're a complete joke.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Of course it's public.
I never said it wasn't stupid. All I'm saying is it doesn't have MUCH traffic. And what does this have to do with your complete lack of knowledge on the subjects of aviation and meteorology and the accusations and assumptions you make against an industry you know nothing about?!
Stay on topic, cunt.
I'm waiting for evidence of "extra" chemicals in the air where these trails are being "sprayed" (LOL!!!).
Please provide some evidence that planes are responsible.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
LOL - no you didn't say that at all. maybe take your own advice about stayin on topic? I wont call you a cunt because thats your department.
cya friend LOL
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
So, you have reading comprehension problems?
I said:
"Yeah, 2000 views in 3 years. VERY public, indeed! "
Meaning that only 2000 people have bothered to view the video in 3 years. That isn't a LOT of traffic, is it?!
"VERY public, indeed! "
Was SARCASM you unbelievably stupid cunt!
If you don't understand what sarcasm is, look it up.
You keep on proving that you are a stupid cunt. I guess I'm only saying the truth when I call you that.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
Also, I made a mistake. It was 2000 in 2 years. I guess I'm a bit math dumb, See, we all have our shortcomings. It's best to admit them, move on, and learn from our mistakes. If you learn about aviation and meteorology, you will understand just how ignorant you are at this moment.
We are all ignorant about something!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
You actually said:
"Are you writing as if talking to an audience now?! Wow! that is fucking CREEPY! "
which, logically means you thought no 'audience' can see this. You're not a good liar and constantly correct yourself so give yourself a break and get a hobby apart from insulting people.
I'm sure you must be very lonely - thought of joining a chat room? Unfortunately you won't be able to use your favourite word there though
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"logically means you thought no 'audience' can see this."
Oh fucking christ. My point was that you and I were having a one on one conversation. No one else was actively involved and there is no reason to give anyone WATCHING our conversation any "instructions".
Man, you really ARE retarded! I was joking before, but seeing how you completely miss nuances in the English language, I can't help but conclude you are incapable of understanding simple logic.
You really are a stupid cunt.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
Just something you clearly don't understand either - you can insult me and call me or anyone childish pathetic names for the rest of your life, but thats not going to make the facts go away unfortunately. I wish it would.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"Just something you clearly don't understand either - you can insult me and call me or anyone childish pathetic names for the rest of your life, but thats not going to make the facts go away unfortunately."
So true. And when you finally learn the facts, you will understand just how absurd and paranoid your beliefs based on a lack of education, are. I can't wait for that to happen for you morons.
You haven't presented a single "fact" yet.
Just assumptions.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
Please also try to understand - when a government has admitted using planes to spray the population, along with vans adapted for this purpose, that is whats commonly known as 'evidence'.
Ongoing means its happening now, or 'going on' presently. That is the quote from their own spokesperson.
In light of this evidedence, retarded people won't acknowledge the facts.
Let me guess - your area uses flouridated water? thought so.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
I correct myself - I spelt evidence wrong - Im sure you'll pick up on that rather than face the facts.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"I correct myself - I spelt evidence wrong - Im sure you'll pick up on that rather than face the facts. "
Like a give a fuck that you made a simple mistake. Stupid cunt.
It's the HUGE mistake you make that bugs me. Believing you understand all there is to aviation and meteorology just by watching youtube videos and visiting conspiracy websites is absurd!
You know NOTHING about jet engines, weather, aviation, navigation..and on and on. But you KNOW we are being sprayed.
Evidence, PLEASE!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
You dont understand the meaning of evidence, its pointless. I gave you evidence on more than one occasion. You dont understand what evidence is.
I gather your aim is to try to get people to block you? What a sad waste of a life.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"You dont understand the meaning of evidence, its pointless."
Wow! What a completely hypocritical statement! You have no concept of "peer review" or "scientific method". You jump to conclusions based on complete ignorance and magically transform your retarded opinion to "fact" (lol!) in your own head. You IGNORE scientific and aeronautical fact to do so!
If that isn't indicative of mental illness, I don't know what is!
But you keep thinking you know it all, without an education.
Dope.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
The government has admitted to past instances of "spraying" (although you haven't proven how they disperssed the"chemicals" years ago) So, how does that relate to "spraying" today?! There is no evidence to link the two things together.
I understand the definition of ongoing. It's your assumption that the part of the research that involved "spraying" is ongoing. That is an assumption. You know NOTHING about this research. It's all speculation on your part.
You see contrails in the sky. Fact
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
"Hmmm....I'm confused. What was this in reference to?"
yes, you were confused from the start - that much is clear.
Ok, very simply, you said chemtrails don't exist - I showed you they do, but not in the form you insist, planes are modified to spray.
You called me a liar and other childish names, I proved you wrong.
then, (amazingly) you acknowledged the proof and still call me names? hmmm.
yes, I agree, you're very confused.
Maybe that prozacs not working well on you?
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
""Hmmm....I'm confused. What was this in reference to?"
yes, you were confused from the start - that much is clear."
I never claimed to be perfect.
You have NOT shown me that chemtrails exist. There is no such evidence. How could you suggest they do? You mean cloud seeding equipment?! Don't be ridiculous. That has nothing to do with the trails we see anywhere. You haven't proven any connection between your paranoia of weather mod. equipment and persistent contrails we see in the skies.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
I don't recall ever stating that all contrails are chemtrails - I also don't recall ever stating that contrails don't exist - it is you who arrogantly keep insulting and saying that chemtrails don't exist when I've given you proof that they do. .....and what do you do with that proof? Ignore it and insult.......
Your arrogance will be the death of you and your family.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"I don't recall ever stating that all contrails are chemtrails - I also don't recall ever stating that contrails don't exist"
*Sigh*
You don't HAVE TO state anything. Just the fact that you think they are two separate things tells me all I need to know.
ALL "chemtrails" are contrails. There is no such thing as a chemtrail.
"....saying that chemtrails don't exist when I've given you proof that they do.."
No, you haven't given me any proof of any such thing. You think you have.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
..........and some people also insist the holocaust never happened in light of the proof too. Sad.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
.".........and some people also insist the holocaust never happened in light of the proof too. Sad."
That IS sad, but irrelevant. Stop trying to suggest that just because i deny that "chemtrails" exist, that I'm denying the Holocaust. This is nothing like that. I am referring to a rejection of known science/ aviation facts in favor of assumptions and bullshit.
I'm simply defending my education against complete ignorance on the subjects of aviation and meteorology.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
so it would seem that from an idiots point of view - the world has to pretend these things aren't happening, and then when it finally comes out in the media that it is, then and only then do we acknowledge that it has been happening for years...........but then we convince ourselves that its ok now because they've finally admitted it...........
shame you believe everything you're told by the same govt who poisoned members of your family then denied it for decades..............
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Why do people who are uneducated in meteorology, science and aviation THINK they know so much about these subjects?!?
Belief in "chemtrails" is PROOF of COMPLETE ignorance in all of these subjects.
It's sad and pathetic that fucking idiots on the street think they can understand this puzzle without EVER studying the facts!
It's absolutely ridiculous!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
I dont think I need to say anymore - but if anyone has any common sense here - im sure they'll read over all the comments and see my point immediately.
I'm against chemtrails, which you say don't exist, but which I showed you that equipment is on the market which distributes them. Which part of that don't you understand?
all of it Im sure - have a nice life - dont worry, someone else will help your children - you certainly won't.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
when did people forget how to think?
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
the reason the public now have proof of it although it has been hidden for decades is because of a thing called the 'freedom of information act.
My point? my point is many of your statements are wrong. Is that not clear?
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Which statements? Quote one.
Epoxynous 2 years ago
ok, put very very simply - there is only ever a certain amount of water in the world which has to be recycled - with me so far?......it gets recycled by the 'sun' evaporating it and drawing it up into the clouds, whereupon the clouds rain, beginning the process over again. It is not possible to 'produce' water by cloud seeding - it is literally being 'stolen' from elsewhere.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
So?
Cloud seeding makes it rain. If it did not rain, then the moisture would stay int he air, and either rain later, or end up somewhere else.
Are you simply against cloud seeding?
Epoxynous 2 years ago
metoffice,gov,uk/education/primary/students/watercycle.html
note that this water cycle 'does not' include cloud seeding, which would (and does) interfere with the natural process.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Cloud seeding has been done for decades. It's not a secret, and never has been. Nobody denies there is cloud seeding.
Does a Dam not interfere with the "natural process" of the water cycle? How about the reservoir you get your drinking water from? How about the taps and drains? Any of that natural?
Epoxynous 2 years ago
you really don't get it do you? you can't create water - you can only move or extract it from an alternative location.
Oh and btw - it actually is often a secret that 'weather modification' (also known as cloud seeding) takes place.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
If it's a secret then how do you know about it?
I fully understand how clouds seeding works. Substances (usually silver iodine) are dispersed into the air which act as cloud condensation nuclei.
What exactly are you claiming here?
Epoxynous 2 years ago
look at my video called 'snow' and read the info to the right - I have lots of links to 'weather modification' sites where equipment can be bought or hired for chemtrails or 'weather modification' as they like to call it sometimes.
weathermod,com - go to the project page and see their list of clients.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
That's just clouds seeding for rain making, which looks nothing like contrails, or "chemtrails"
Epoxynous 2 years ago
Well in that case, I suggest you look again 'properly' at that site and notice the 'seeding' equipment shown. Some common sense will tell you that it is the same equipment used for cloud seeding, which uses chemicals to seed clouds. Perhaps you feel injecting chemicals into our skies is fine?Perhaps you don't realise that when rain is 'made' somewhere, it means that somewhere else is drier than usual?
Please learn the basics of the rain water cycle.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
I have the post of the 1944 "Contrail" in England. This is Fighter jets. 1 engine. Odd we dont see fighter jets making 300 mile long "contrails" . now its all these multi engine things.. Why is that. why the crisscrossing of sky thru many 1000's feet of air and laterally, all criss crossed. like the 1944 photos I have posted
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
Once ther sky is cloudy the planes can fly above them....Thats a nice collection of evidence. We'll see where this leads. I might point out that planes had been in the sky for 40 years. So why 1944? If gas engines do this why is it so startling in 1944. But we both have a 1944 date. I have more books coming. Text is hard to cheat.
hypnotstcollector 3 years ago
Chemtrail operations were already admited by military and mainstream media. But thx anyway for giving me more evidence.
cz3rt1k 3 years ago
Evidence of what?
I bet you can't give a link to where "military and mainstream media" admitted making persistent trails in the sky that were not contrails.
Epoxynous 3 years ago
You're wasting your time with this kid - looks like he's already been brainwashed by the system (does the term 'get em while their young' sound familar?)
Probably gets all his information from wikipedia and nasa too. This one's either working for them but doesn't realise it yet. Go to weathermod,com - this one can't see the link...........like I said - too far gone. It's sad - kids nowadays dont know how to think any longer - its not school policy.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
I've seen two jets, in the same sky, at the same time, at the same alitude, (they were the same size), with the same conditions, and one left a line and one didnt.
Hows that work then?
Not only that, but I've also seen the higher altitude plane leave no line, but a much much lower one DID, again the same sky, same time, same conditions.
That seems contradictory to me hence my questions and suspicions.
pranicmegan 3 years ago
"at the same alitude, (they were the same size)"
Oh please, it is impossible to tell that from 30,000 feet below and the planes can be separated by just a few hundred feet (even less) and be in different atmospheric conditions. You need to understand that the atmosphere is a fluid and has pockets of differing air above and below areas of other air. This is just fact!
You say "same conditions" but there is NO WAY you can tell that from the ground.
Please watch my "gaps" video.
DiSiNf0aGeNt 3 years ago 3
go to weathermod,com - go to the projects page and note their list of clients.
...........its in their face and they still deny.......LOL...........you really can't help some people can you?
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Deny what? Nobody is deny that cloud seeding happens. It's been going on for decades.
It looks nothing like thin trails in the sky though. They seed clouds - meaning the clouds are already there when they add the chemicals. Often it is done from the ground.
Epoxynous 2 years ago
please go to weathermod,com and learn how they 'do' use planes to carry out weather modification. Look at the site, don't remain in ignorance - its not fair to your brain.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Yes, they do it by cloud seeding. They are a cloud seeding company. The use both planes and ground based equipment.
What is your point?
Epoxynous 2 years ago
really? so they don't (as you insisted) seed from the ground using existing clouds?.......you're missing a valid point here - if these existing'clouds' were rain clouds, then there would be no need for the seeding - or didn't they explain that part to you?
as I said before - common sense can't be taught - that much is blatantly obvious.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
The seed both from the ground and from the air, depending on needs and conditions.
The existing clouds are rain clouds, the cloud seeding is intended to INCREASE the amount of rainfall (sometimes from zero, as the rain cloud might not fully develop locally otherwise)
Epoxynous 2 years ago
Have you ever noticed that whenever you make a valid, truthful point with these people, they just move on to another bit of nonsense in hopes that you won't have an answer for their next point based on a lack of education.
They NEVER acknowledge that they were wrong about the previous point.
Oh well, I don't expect much from these people anyway.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
"common sense can't be taught - that much is blatantly obvious"
Oh man!
You are living proof of THAT, sister!
Common sense should tell you stupid chemtrailers that maybe someone with an education in these fields could offer some insight into the things you don't understand.
Nope, instead you fucking morons push those who understand where YOU make your mistakes, away forever. You call them "shills" and make up stupid lies.
I hope you paranoid idiots NEVER learn the facts!!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
My advice would be to research porton down in the UK. This is just one of many examples. It's ok, apology for your stupidity is accepted. It was expected. No worries.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
My advice would be to read a fucking book about meteoroogy and then learn a LITTLE bit about aviation.
Also, just because something was done once in the past and documented, doesn't mean it's happening ALL the time. Stupid cunt!
For every retarded point you retards bring up based on circumstantial evidence, there is a FUCKING FACT In a science, meteorology or aviation book that explains your stupid bullshit away. You are just too stupid and uneducated to know that!
Dumb cunt.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
love the language - very educated.
So, you think that if any Govt were spraying you, they'd ask your permission or even tell you it was happening? Im just curious here.
I must say, you're a very trusting person.
An ideal member of the public from their point of view.
If it hadn't been for the freedom of information act, do you think we'd be aware that the Govt had used chemicals on us in the past even now? They only admit what they have to - and even then they lie.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
I am VERY educated. I studied these subjects in college and flew around the eastern united states for many years.
You are just wrong and it's because you are ignorant. You are a stupid cunt spreading lies about an industry you know NOTHING about.
There is NO EVIDENCE to support the accusation that anyone is spraying anything on you. There is some circumstantial BS that you people USE as evidence, but it just doesn't hold up to scrutiny against actual facts on the subjects.
Paranoid twat!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
Yes, I can see you're very educated by the language you use and by the way you think you can talk to others. Well done. I admire you.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Sorry, bad language doesn't equate with a lack of education. I use the words, because you deserve them. You are an arrogant asshole who knows nothing about these subjects but feel you need to post your absurd opinions regardless of that fact.
You malign an industry that you know nothing about simply because you are arrogant, and paranoid.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
You have a foul mouth, and show no sign of being educated.
The UK government has used chemicals on its people in the past, a fact that you can youtube chemtrails UK
You are a foul mouth discusting prick.
mythoughtsalone 2 years ago
Blow me...
What does the admission of an act from the past have to do with the present.
It's a huge assumption to say since it was done once or twice, it must be happening all over the world at this moment.
There is also NO PROOF that anything is going on. Do you have any idea how many independent labs measure your air quality, all around the world?! They don't find what you claim. THE END!
And you are a manipulating, lying cunt.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
Just out of curiosity - can you point me to the book which explains the 'real' reason they're spraying barium, infected blood cells, live viruses, and other diseases and heavy metals into the air?
Of course, as you say, there's a logical reason for all of this - which book is it?
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Just out of curiosity, could you direct me to a single lab report that states an unusual increase of ANY chemical in the sky associated with any airplane?
The video about the hick with the jars in his backyard has been debunked completely.
Please provide me with a SINGLE report from any reputable lab that states, without a doubt, that airplanes are the cause of increased ANYTHING in the air.
I'll be waiting you whacko loon!
It's PURE paranoia on YOUR part.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
Your own paranoia requires that you visit sites that are all about "chemtrails" INSTEAD of sites that explain aviation and how it interacts with weather. You are unaware of a whole other world of knowledge. YOU made the decision to hook up with the nuts and agree with everything THEY say, while ignoring the basics of proven science and aviation principles.
Aviation and meteorology explains EVERY ridiculous claim made by you people.
Every youtube video about "chemtrails" is about contrails.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
please can you give me the name of that book you speak of which explains why they're spraying us with chemicals and disease? I'm sure, as you say, there's a logical explaination, there must be.
As you insist, its all a mistake, the govt have never done that to us in the past, I'm just paranoid.
The name of the book please?
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
"please can you give me the name of that book you speak of which explains why they're spraying us with chemicals and disease?"
Please provide me with a shred of proof that says they are spraying your stupid ass with ANYTHING.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
.......so you haven't got the name of the book (s) you said contain your evidence? or have you? can you provide the name of it/them please?
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
ANY meteorology book directed toward pilots will give you the info you desperately need! These aren't "secrets", they are facts, and if one understands aviation and meteorology, they understand that "chemtrails" are a hoax that stupid people fall for.
There isn't a specific book on these subjects. You could get a basic meteorology book from the library and START to understand your atmosphere. Then, if that ever happens, you could get a book about aviation/jet engines.
This is KNOWN science!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
The one my son is reading right now is called Meteorology Demystified. Chapters 1, 2 and 3 cover the basics (which you should REALLY learn!!!!).
Then learn how weather systems move in chapter 4. This explains why trails happen on some days, and not on others.
This "chemtrail" bullshit is all about ignorance. You people spit in the face of known science to spread your lies!
Chemtrailers are the dumbest group on the planet.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
.........and you say that these books will explain why its logical to spray chemicals and diseased blood over a population? I can't wait to read them.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
No, you stupid cunt. The books explain that when you THINK you are seeing a plane spray something, you are actually seeing science in action. There is no spraying. Only stupid assholes who think there is.
Please show me proof that "diseased blood" or ANY chemicals have been found in the air that have come from airplanes. There isn't a single shred of proof to back up your retarded claims.
Hey stupid cunt, do you understand how the water cycle works? I didn't think so! look it up!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
this is a good site as well - of course I wouldn't be able to understand it as Im a dumbass, paranoid twat, cunt - but you might be able to understand why there is equipment here to modify planes? Oh no, they don't modify the planes do they? they're exhaust fumes - my memory is terrible. I keep forgetting.
weathermod,com/seeding_equipment.php
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Modify?! Says who?! YOU!!!!!????
what the hell do you know about airplanes.!? Nothing, from what I can tell.
Cloud seeding has NOTHING to do with persistent contrails.
You connect the two in your mind because you are ignorant.
I can't help it if you have conditioned yourself to jump to stupid conclusions based on ZERO evidence and ZERO education on these subjects!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
shall I assume you won't bother to look at the link? Even better, look at the projects page and read this part:
Our clients include private and public insurance companies, water resource management organizations, and federal and state government research organizations.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Why you bothe to talk with this prick, beats me...
mythoughtsalone 2 years ago
Ouch, it really hurts me when people I have no respect for insult me. I mean that from the bottom of my big black heart.
Stop lying about aviation and meteorology.
You people act so ignorant about these subjects only because you never bothered to learn the basics.
stupid cunt.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
Because while he's trying to bother me, he's leaving someone else alone lol................and you do realise he actually now thinks we're the same person? LOL
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Well, you idiots can jump to conclusions, so can I.
It's logical.
there are only so many chemtrail retards in the world.
I'd so probably 50 or so, each with a few hundred accounts. There can't be any more of them. The rest of the population KNOWS they are paranoid idiots!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
idiots? plural now eh? You accept I'm not both myself and someone else?......remember not everyone has a split personality........its wise 'not' to judge everyone else by your own standards......
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
I'd say that the equipment photographed 'for sale' and 'for hire' on that site is just a little piece of evidence, wouldn't you?
How about you phone them and tell them they're lying? Tell them they don't attach equipment to the wings of planes - you should know, you've read a book.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
I don't understand what you are getting at with that link. I actually took the time to e-mail these people and they said that you idiots are bothering them all the time with your stupid assumptions.
You know NOTHING about your atmosphere. You have no idea how a pressurized cabin works, or what a pitot tube is, or how a jet engine compresses the air. You know NOTHING about aviation, yet you KNOW you are right about this paranoid bullshit.
Sorry, you couldn't be more wrong!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
I know that the 'exhaust fumes' that you've been banging on about are likely equipment attached to the wings of planes.
Call me paranoid and insult all you like - thats exactly what people like you did to the population of Porton Down all those years ago - history often repeats while people have the memory of a goldfish.
I wish you well - you seem like a really nice person with such a warm heart - it just shines through. Take care.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
Take care, yourself.
Please, learn about meteorology and aviation if you can tear yourself away from making a fool of yourself on youtube.
I would bet my life on the fact that I'm right. I sleep well at night knowing I invested in an actual education on these subjects instead of falling for a stupid hoax.
You talk about a "warm heart", yet you malign an industry you know nothing about because you see lines in the sky you know nothing about. You are a heartless, stupid cunt!
How dare you!
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
wow you have such a personality, I can see why people love you. I bet you're never lonely, I can imagine you have scores of friends with the amount of compliments you dish out.
gangstagrannie 2 years ago
I may not have much of a personality when I encounter you lying dimwits, but I certainly have the education to back up my words!
I am loved by all who I love. I have a wonderful family and you know nothing about me. You are making some pretty strange assumptions here. And I don't know why you are bringing these things up. Strange.
Let's get back to your ignorance about persistent contrails. Please provide me with a link from a reputable lab that states airplanes are dropping chemicals.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago
"I can see why people love you"
You actually SHOULD love me!
I am one of very few sources that has tried to help you people understand that ignorance in aviation and meteorology is your only problem. But, you all insist on believing these myths over scientific and historical facts.
I can't help it if you would rather be ignorant.
And why WOULD I waste my time trying to get you people to educate yourselves? Because I'm a "shill"?!? Please, that is such a paranoid copout!
I am educated.
UninterestedNU 2 years ago