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  • just wandering is it worth putting these guys in a 1,500 point list

  • @trashman2145 yes of course it is. squad of 6 in a falcon thats all you need theyre awesome

  • @BeTheBe5t ok cheers will do 

  • Your math is pretty off. Use a max of 6 for fighting non-vehicles? Run up to say a Trigon, squad of gene stealers, or even worse shooting terminators/gray knights? Your 6 guys will hit with 4 on average and do 3.3 wound to the first two assuming they are out of cover, and only 2.2 wounds to the terminators(not even the shield type). And now quite annoyed, they assault and destroy your Dragons. Unless maybe people you play against only like using units of 5 maybe?

  • It's pronounced "Kah-Thaan". This is a reference to Lovecraft's Cthulthu.

  • when isn't mwg having a grand re-opening sale???

  • Why would you waste a falcon to transport fire dragons. Its a waste of a weapon rofl, terrible idea. If you move 12, which you should, you will waste a weapon.

    If you bring an exarch youve just wasted 20 points rofl.

  • @Parckie The reason you would use a Falcon to transport Dragons is because a Falcon is much more likely to actually survive to get the Dragons to where they need to go. Wave Serpents are easy to shoot down with STR 8 weapons whereas a Falcon with Holofields is extremely hard to take down. You take the holo-Falcon because it keeps your Dragons alive, the guns are just a bonus. As for shooting, if you take an EML and you do need to move 12 you can still fire it as a Defensive Weapon.

  • Step One: Drive Wave serpent next to anything.

    Step Two: Get Out

    Step Three: roll 5 dice and watch it die

  • do waveserpant tatics

  • Drat, I'm late for the sale :)

  • Hmmm. never thought to pronounce C'tan like that before but it does make a lot of sense. The other way just makes me think of settlers of catan...

  • plz do avatar tacticts

  • What about a dragons breath flamer i use this it gives them some versatility when dropping them out to wipe squads not tanks.

  • i just got an eldar battle force today can someone plz tell me wat to get next

  • @samuelwarhammer40k a warlock to put in the guardian squad with the conceal ability, and a tank either a fire prism for tank busting abilities/ tough enemy troops or a falcon for shots at infantry. Also a close combat unit stiking scorpians, howling banshees or harliquins if you have the effort to paint them, and a farseer to hang around with the war walker with one of his psychic abilities

  • please those of you foolish enough to think the Eldar can't exterminate any of the lower races are really in deep denial...the Eldar can see the future & manipulate all races to thier end...another thing- The Eldar can leave the Universe anytime they want & live in the Webway (which they created). Numbers, guns, being outnumbered, or being at the brink of extinction doesn't matter if you're an Eldar...with all their "Weakness" they're still 1 of the most powerful races in the game....

  • @PastasaIIad they could join tau, and then the tau, and kroot would protect them, and the eldar could teach tau about the warp, win-win

  • @PastasaIIad Yeah but still it was like 1 million nids against 30000 eldar and nids got owned.

  • Eldar are awesome im starting to collect an eldar army. I got a war walker and some dire avengers but i dont know what to get next HELP

  • @handproductionz

    plan ahead, write an army list for how ever many points you plan on playing, you'l save time, money, and a few headaches this way.

    i suggest a farseer with a few warlocks, warlocks cost about 5 dollars per model and the farseer should be about 15. so for about 30$ you can get a really strong and customizeable HQ.

  • @handproductionz Get rangers, banshees, striking scorps or dark reapers. (and take a farseer or autarch 4 hq.)

  • so if tyranids went against eldar.... .wh owold win. like all of the nids and all of the eldar?

  • @REAPER3382

    theres like 10 craftworlds left and a butt load of tyrinids. tyrinids would mop the floor with them.

  • @AgeOfReclamation Nope, Dude 1 eldar fleet like destroyed an attack from hive fleet kraken, Prince Yriel like carved the hive tyrant leading the attack to bits.

  • @AgeOfReclamation kool. tu bad us orks would beat all of em

  • My dragons lit up almost my friends whole deamonhunters while my other guys were taking objectives.

  • cool

  • Yeah, these Fire Dragon tactics are pretty dire. Truth is of course that they excel at both killing tanks AND hard units. Doh.

    What also gets me riled is that many of the people who record these tactica don't take the time to actually do their homework. I am really not interested at all in them having to correct themselves whilst they look things up DURING RECORDING

  • these tactics are aweful.

    against new fifth edition armies with huge tank squadrons like imperial guard leman russ squadrons fire dragons excel.

    charging at terminators can work but with 12 inch range you ARE IN ASSAULT RANGE 6+6, also if you are using them as anti-heavy infantry crack shot is very good for only 5 points since in 5th edition practically anything on the board gets a cover save, and tank hunters is incredible against tanks, what fire dragons are for.

  • now i know by too much overkill i 've tried it after 5 shots i blew up a tank and the exarch bcoulndn't even shoot at it

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  • Best tactic vids ever. Good work guys. I look for tactics for eldar and I get people talking from the darn Codex.  I CAN READ PPL!! Again, nice work. Love the vids.

  • Ive got saim-hann eldar army but does this mean i HAVE to have my troops as jetbikes?

  • NO!!!!

  • Im going to start eldar and i was wondering if this is a good list to start with-

    1) Avatar

    2) Battleforce

    3) Wraithlord

    4) Howling Banshees

    5) fire prism

    6) Fire dragons

    can anyone tell me if there are any problems with it. Thanks =]

  • @haznmitch

    i would say that that list is pretty much perfect but you may want to add striking scorpions if you are against orks

  • @haznmitch

    Decent list, not mobile enough for my tastes. Also, what are you claiming your objectives with? Guardians or dire avengers have always been vital in my lists for objective games.

    I run.

    1)Guide/Fortune Seer in Falcon

    2)Dire Avengers in Wave Serpent x2

    3)Pathfinders for holding your home objective 4)with their 2+ cover.

    5)Shining Spears

    Depending on points you can add

    2x Fireprisms (the linked AP3 large blast is a great MEQ killer)

    i like grav tank overload and speed.

  • wraithlords own

  • give your exarch dragon's breath flamer and give him crack shot. not much can survive a strenght 5 flamer ap4 that rerolls failed to wounds and no cover saves

  • C'tan = Satan

  • it's C'tan (see tan) i believe the accent mark means the C is pronouced seprately

  • too much overkill?

    you can NEVER have too much overkill! lol

  • i agree but there is no overkill it's more like making sure they're dead right

  • I have what i call a " Dragon Wagon" a squad of 5 fire dragons (4+exarch) in a wave serpent that has spirit stones so it can always keep on the move. Sounds cheap but it is an awesome tank hunting squad.

  • thats wat falcons are for

  • ok, i watched these vids, like the eldar style, but dont know alot about them other than they look cool and are low priced. question, what should i buy for my first 500-1000 pts

  • Low priced? Their units are some of the most expensive ingame, save guardians. And there transports are the most dangerous, survivable, and expensive.

  • how much points is the battle force worth

  • most battle forces get you 500 points minimun but once you've paid for upgrades, special weapons etc, you should come to around 750 points.

  • fire dragons combined with doom can take down 10 man squads. instant death , lot's of fun!!!!

  • fire dragons are really strong (they shoot the anemy and BOOM) .but their 4+ save really dissapoints me, so instead of taking them in my falcon i use 6 harlequins in a falcon (including shadowseer). should i use 10 or 9 dragons in a serpent???

  • 5 Dragons (no options) in a cheap Serpent is enough, then put 2 of them...

    It's like a one-shot stuff that get killed after, but it's cheap and reliable.

    Puting Dragons in a Falcon is not that good, because Falcon is the only Eldar Tank that can get 3xS8 shoots.

    I use them with 5-6 avengers...to get a S8 tower then go taking objectives, moving 12" using Plasma missiles (S4)+Pulselazer+maybe shurikens (S4).

  • whos voice is that saying the tactica vids, is it dave

  • I use 10 Fire Dragons (9 + Exarch) to bolster a gunline made up of 20 Guardians with a Bright Lance Heavy Weapon and 10 Dire Avengers (9 + Exarch) and a Wraithlord, if the enemy throws any vehicles my way on turn one the Fire Dragons knock out the vehicle leaving the Dire Avengers 27 shots of Shuriken Catapults and my Wraithlords Shurkien Cannon...

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  • ... If nothing is left then I use my Guardians Bright Lance to target any other vehicles behind the first. Then my Scorpions and Autarch move in for the kill.

  • i've seen this video 5,877 times . eldar battle tactics are awesome!!!

  • Dude what's up with the fear of assault terminators, they only got that 4+ inv save in CC, so actually tactical terminators are so much worse, since they can shoot you aswell as squish you in cc... geez

  • assault terminators in new codex now have 3+ invulnerable save against shooting and close combat i think

  • Yeah........I personally find the 3+ invunerable save with storm shields very painful.

  • haha cool.

  • These tactics wark greate but i am an imperial guard player but i think they are good.LOL

  • don't

  • You use crack shot to ignore cover saves or combine with a heavy flamer to give some serious anti-infantry power. (re roll to wound str 5 ap 4 template= Dead swarms)

  • hunting swarms with tank-busing squad.. brilliant

  • Well u need redundancy in an eldar army. I use 3 squads of 6 fire dragons (3 falcons, 2 dire avengers squads 2 wave serpents, eldrad.) The fire pikes added range isn't very useful as you should be looking to plant the whole in range. Vs high value targets the reroll and ignore cs is fine but not inspired. This combo murders nobs, stealers, other eldar and marines. +3sv will fail if you take 5 of them. Remember fire dragons are cheap, take lots, for 128pts u get a unit that can shoot up anything

  • but then ur not hunting swarms as you wrote before, but hard-crack units.. (not stealers tho, they still be swarm)

    But I get your point, good call ;D

    I run a similar list btw, Eldrad, 2 squads Fire Dragons, 2 squds Avengers, Harlequins, 3 Falcons and 2 Serpents

  • How many pts is that?

  • hm.. donno.. cant remember.. Its not an actaull gaming list more like this is what i've got list.

  • The list I mentioned earlier is 1700pt (northern europe) army. Works very well. Can focus on one half of the field quite easily.Where it'll out gun and reroll most non eldar armies. Don't ask about CC, it has to be doomed, me fortuned and a wuss. Very fragile and eldrad dependent. The redundancy of most units being able to tackle armour (rear hits please) or infantry means you have to wipe half the army (or the farseer) to cripple it. Its the infantry not the vehicles that do the bulk killing.

  • Really sick instructional videos, you can see the more you do the better they become. Keep up the sick work.

  • So what should we use to bust tanks?

  • fire prism

  • avatar

  • satan ftw

  • I'm an atheist, and I find stuff like "satan ftw" a mere joke. I was not implying that I want to go to hell. Also, it sounds you are saying that atheist worship the devil? maybe this is a mishap, but atheists do not believe in heaven or hell, hence me thinking "satan ftw" is funny.

  • I actually used his tactic... it worked great untill the warbikes came up and charged.... oh well.....

    Still a great tactic.

  • Woot,

    2500'th view

    The whole reason i picked eldar was the fire dragons...

    actually the wraithguard...

    actually the Death jesters!

  • Soft C?

    Like "Stan"?

    Look,there goes Nightbringer Stanley!

  • MR. HIDE!!!!

  • yeah Joe great vids man! very helpfull!

  • hey does joe have his own you tube? because i got some question. like whats his forum name?

  • Joe's Youtube name is usernamesunavilable, and no he does not have his own youtube channel... don't ask how I know this.

    He is on the MWG Forum though... quite regularly. His name there is Joe

  • MIke make more Necron things like maybe Tactics for necrons

  • I really like these vids. You should use some props like Wayofsaimhan. He has some great vids on eldar tactics for saimhan army. He is really deadly with those damn bikes........

  • You Rock Joe!!! And this is why Eldar Rule. Maybe You, Cam and Myself should put together an Apocalypse Force and play once the Club is open again.

  • Hmm... thats it I'm so gonna keep my Russes away from fire dragons. Crack Shot and Tank Hunter! I mean seriously over-kill.

  • Eldar ftw :3!

  • miniwargaming pwns

  • Good.

  • C'tan is totall pronounced Satan

  • FYI it is pronounced like saten

  • No worried Dreadlord ;) I just checked with my Falcon and Firedragons... even used a laser pointer ;)

    And luke... no worries... chops are gone... for now ;) When the Girlfriend says enough, I listen... eventually.

  • cut the 'burns, save the neckbeard. lol

  • Eldar ;)

  • True line of sight. Put the Falcon on the flying base like it is supposed to have and your models can see right under it. It's high enough that it won't even get in your way. No cover save for them and they still have to go around.

  • I find no support for this in the rulebook or in the errata online. The only thing I can find in the rulebook is "Note that a skimmer must be set down on the table and left in place at the end of its move - it cannot be left hovering in mid-air!"

    Also C' is pronounced 'kah', so it would be Kah-tan for C'tan.

    Also, fire dragons within 6" of a vehicle with tank hunter exarch power will destroy a tank after a penetrating on a 3+ and as normal at a 5+ after a glancing hit! That's awesome!

  • Ok, now I get it, I misread the rules and checked in a scenario with my models, they ment that you place the BASE down on the table which the skimmer is hovering on, not putting down the entire skimmer on the ground.

    Still, being able to easily knock-out tanks in 1 round of shooting before moving on is pretty awesome. I think I will use my fire dragons as tank hunters.

    Once again, sorry for my bad way of reading the rules. I'm new to this game, so I'm pretty much still learning. :(

  • fire dragons are GREAT! a whole squad with meltaguns and bombs :D

  • This doesn't make any sense. Fire dragons have a range of 12", that means if you shoot an enemy unit, you pick out the casualties from the back of the unit and then you're still able to assault. Fire Dragons in assault = GG.

    Just checked the rulebook on page 24. Seems I'm right

    "Note that any model in the target unit can be hit, wounded and taken off as a casualty, even models that are completely out of sight or out of range of all of the firers."

  • But if you drop them in the BACK of the falcon, the enemy cant run at them, meaning they have to go around, and may not be in range, Meanwhile you can shoot through your falcon

  • What? I though in the new rules that you can't "see" through skimmers, and that they're in that aspect counted as normal vehicles.

    I'll look it up.

  • the official GW pronunciation is 'kah-tahn'

  • only problem with that tactic is u have to get them all the way across the baord^^

    broadsides+hammerheads= dead eldar :D

  • yea but eldar are a very fast army, you can put them in a transports or falcons and eldar tanks have a few tricks to avoid being killed

  • Hey that's how I like to use them

  • Haha funny stuff man. xD

  • All this Pew pew may convince my to start an Eldar army

  • Joe is the best ;)

  • How do you counter that!

  • pew pew

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  • eldar are so cheap

  • pew pew fire indeed

  • o yea 2 comment

  • pew pew fire

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