House sparrows are non-native? Wow, I didn't know we had alien birds living among us! What planet did they come from? Amazing how similar they are to our native earth birds! You know, alien birds are such an unusual thing, we should not harm them if it's possible to avoid it. Wouldn't it be a tragedy to lose them, even if they are alien? Who's going to go to their home planet and get more if we do lose them?
You know, this video is claimed to be something it's not.
No, actually they were all born here. Their ancestors came from Europe, as did most of the people now living in North America, and who knows how many other species of birds that were already here when Europeans arrived. Birds, even small ones, travel the globe all the time, as do people. And like us, they sometimes stay.
Yeah, these birds may look cute in some of the other videos, but they are viscious non-native birds that attack native birds. The other week, we had one kill a mother woodpecker and destroy her eggs. Not only is it legal to kill house sparrows (aka English sparrows), it is ENCOURAGED!
By not killing them, you are allowing them to kill native birds.
bartempira, it is not encouraged by me, nor by many other people who think that all birds have a right to exist. By not killing them, I am allowing God to do as he wishes, letting nature take its course, rather than meddling with nature, as you advocate. No house sparrow ever yet asked my permission before killing "native" birds, so I am not responsible for their actions whatsoever, even though I have never molested house sparrows as you say I should.
I knew a guy who got pure joy out of shooting birds.. he ended up raping a 12 year old girl.. I sure as hell hope I don't see any of you rapists-in-training in real life, only reason you're outside is to wait on your daughter (or son) to get home from school so you can get it on
when ever me or my dad see a house sparrow fly into one of our bird house, one of us sneaks up to it from the back, put our hand over the hole, reach inside the box, grab the sparrow and rip it head off, will kill a house sparrow any way we can cause a few years back both our tree swallows had their heads smashed in, our bluebirds had their 5 eggs destroyed both from the house sparrow
rednecktrapper, if it's so easy for you to do such violence against a little bird, I would not trust you around swallows, bluebirds or any other bird. Also, the swallows and bluebirds do not belong to you, nor are the sparrows your property to abuse for your entertainment. The bluebirds and swallows will adapt and survive, or they will not, but there's nothing you can do to control things either way, for almost all of the birds are beyond your reach, and the rest are statistically insignificant.
I don't want attention for myself. What I want is for people to realize how stupid it is to love one species of bird and hate another, when they are all God's creatures and here for a purpose. We shouldn't take lightly the destruction of any animal.
these birds are gross, I kicked a family of 10 out of my the wall in my house. The manage to sneak threw a tiny a hole in the siding. Definatly getting a BB gun and taking out this flying rats this spring.
Good for you! In the United States, it's perfectly legal for you to remove house sparrows as they are NOT protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty AND are a serious threat to our native, cavity-nesting songbirds.
velocikat, your attitude is the reason the bird treaty was created. People like YOU thought that any bird which the law didn't protect was fair game to do with as they liked, and they tried to wipe out ALL the birds! Now there are only a few birds not protected, and you still want to wipe them out...
<BR> I have a question to anyone who can help me: I have just built my first bird nesting box. It is beautiful, and I'd like to keep the sparrows that are in my front yard away from it. I know about the sheet metal protection to keep the squirrels out, but I want whatever bird makes this box its home to be free from being attacked by house sparrows. Also, how could I deter house sparrows, while attracting other birds.? It is basically a perfect box for flickers.
I find the debate of what is "natural" interesting. We humans have dubbed the House Sparrow, originally from Europe, "invasive." However, most people in the U.S. where this bird is considered invasive, are of European decent.
Yeah, that's ironic, but we brought them over here, and they're doing a job on our native birds. You can get idealistic if you want, but you have to be realistic in the end.
Sorry, but allowing many native American cavity-nesting species diminish to near-extinction is not an option to me simply because my ancestors were unwise.
We've had a bluebird box in our backyard for 7years. Every year a pair of bluebirds come and make it their home, raise at least two broods of babies, and give us their beautiful songs. Every year, however, I see sparrows attack the bluebirds. Last year I saw sparrow fly out of the box only to open up the box and see five baby bluebirds with their heads smashed in.
Check your facts, first about sparrows and then about fascism. (Like how to spell, "fascist," for example.) House sparrows and starlings are the only two species of birds not protected by law, so that would mean they are not a threatened species. And to call me a fascist for hating sparrows, well, thanks for the laugh!
Thanks to people like you, reckless with adjectives and labels, few people actually understand the weight of words like "fascist"
4) Fascism seeks an object to blame for some problem, then tries to destroy that object "for the better good." Whether it be Jews for Germans or sparrows for bluebirds, it's still fascist, and all suffer from it. I've seen people destroy bluebirds while trying to destroy sparrows. And are sparrows really to blame for the decline of bluebirds?
That's the worst moral equivalence I've seen: equating the horrors of the Holocaust to house sparrows is sickening.
How did the Nazis react to dissenters? They labeled them with pejorative names, like labeling "fascist" anyone who does not agree about sparrow.
Here's a fact check errand for you: look up IRONIC.
Go ahead, keep posting your busybody self-righteous revisionist bilge. I'm canceling my Youtube registration . The next time you compare Jews to birds I won't be around to see it.
It's at a different level, for sure. But I thought you would be able to see the similarity between these two scenarios. I guess I was expecting too much.
You might notice that I was not comparing the horrors of the holocaust with sparrows, I was comparing attitudes and methods. I was not the one who brought up the facsism, but I did see the parallel the other commenter was speaking of.
If YouTube comments make you so angry, perhaps it's best if you do cancel.
Also, try actually watching the video. The sparrow attacks then drags a lifeless body out of the nest. It was not harmlessly "wrestling."
What about the dead female bluebird I pulled out of our nest three years ago? Was the sparrow just "wrestling" then? How about the five baby bluebirds with their heads pecked in? Just "wrestling"?
"Nothing unusual, nothing unnatural" you say. Sounds like you're unusually myopic and unnaturally idiotic.
You are confused. A house sparrow does not drags a lifeless body out of the nest. They simply don't have physical ability to do it. A bluebird escaped on his own.
Did YOU actually watch the video? The BLUE bird in the video is trying to escape. You can plainly see it if you watch his legs and body. The sparrow is trying to continue the attack. The sparrow does not have enough physical strength to move another bird it's on size. Also, he does not have the talons of a bird of prey and is not capable of carrying anything.
I just Wiki'ed House Sparrow, and if the author of the article is correct, then the House Sparrow, Starling, and Pigeon are all not Federally protected in the US. They have become the most numerous birds in the US. It also says that the House Sparrow population is declining in it's home area. Is that what you mean by threatened species? In the US and Australia they are considered pests. It also mentions them as a major reason for the decline of Bluebirds here in the US.
I'm a fascist and would kill all of them if possible.
dayglowgreendoor 3 years ago
Buy a repeating trap. I usually get a few dozen per year. Sometimes as many as 8 or 9 at a time.
dayglowgreendoor 3 years ago
House sparrows are non-native? Wow, I didn't know we had alien birds living among us! What planet did they come from? Amazing how similar they are to our native earth birds! You know, alien birds are such an unusual thing, we should not harm them if it's possible to avoid it. Wouldn't it be a tragedy to lose them, even if they are alien? Who's going to go to their home planet and get more if we do lose them?
You know, this video is claimed to be something it's not.
ccoraxfan 3 years ago
non-native to North America dumb ass hippie, they came here from Europe
rednecktrapper21 3 years ago
No, actually they were all born here. Their ancestors came from Europe, as did most of the people now living in North America, and who knows how many other species of birds that were already here when Europeans arrived. Birds, even small ones, travel the globe all the time, as do people. And like us, they sometimes stay.
ccoraxfan 3 years ago
Yeah, these birds may look cute in some of the other videos, but they are viscious non-native birds that attack native birds. The other week, we had one kill a mother woodpecker and destroy her eggs. Not only is it legal to kill house sparrows (aka English sparrows), it is ENCOURAGED!
By not killing them, you are allowing them to kill native birds.
bartempira 3 years ago
bartempira, it is not encouraged by me, nor by many other people who think that all birds have a right to exist. By not killing them, I am allowing God to do as he wishes, letting nature take its course, rather than meddling with nature, as you advocate. No house sparrow ever yet asked my permission before killing "native" birds, so I am not responsible for their actions whatsoever, even though I have never molested house sparrows as you say I should.
ccoraxfan 3 years ago
bartempira,
damn right brother
rednecktrapper21 3 years ago
I knew a guy who got pure joy out of shooting birds.. he ended up raping a 12 year old girl.. I sure as hell hope I don't see any of you rapists-in-training in real life, only reason you're outside is to wait on your daughter (or son) to get home from school so you can get it on
sebring31482 3 years ago
when ever me or my dad see a house sparrow fly into one of our bird house, one of us sneaks up to it from the back, put our hand over the hole, reach inside the box, grab the sparrow and rip it head off, will kill a house sparrow any way we can cause a few years back both our tree swallows had their heads smashed in, our bluebirds had their 5 eggs destroyed both from the house sparrow
rednecktrapper21 3 years ago
rednecktrapper, if it's so easy for you to do such violence against a little bird, I would not trust you around swallows, bluebirds or any other bird. Also, the swallows and bluebirds do not belong to you, nor are the sparrows your property to abuse for your entertainment. The bluebirds and swallows will adapt and survive, or they will not, but there's nothing you can do to control things either way, for almost all of the birds are beyond your reach, and the rest are statistically insignificant.
ccoraxfan 3 years ago
i think your just trying to get attention by leaving all these comments
rednecktrapper21 3 years ago 2
I don't want attention for myself. What I want is for people to realize how stupid it is to love one species of bird and hate another, when they are all God's creatures and here for a purpose. We shouldn't take lightly the destruction of any animal.
ccoraxfan 3 years ago
these birds are gross, I kicked a family of 10 out of my the wall in my house. The manage to sneak threw a tiny a hole in the siding. Definatly getting a BB gun and taking out this flying rats this spring.
nhhfd 4 years ago
Good for you! In the United States, it's perfectly legal for you to remove house sparrows as they are NOT protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty AND are a serious threat to our native, cavity-nesting songbirds.
velocikat 4 years ago
velocikat, your attitude is the reason the bird treaty was created. People like YOU thought that any bird which the law didn't protect was fair game to do with as they liked, and they tried to wipe out ALL the birds! Now there are only a few birds not protected, and you still want to wipe them out...
ccoraxfan 3 years ago
<BR> I have a question to anyone who can help me: I have just built my first bird nesting box. It is beautiful, and I'd like to keep the sparrows that are in my front yard away from it. I know about the sheet metal protection to keep the squirrels out, but I want whatever bird makes this box its home to be free from being attacked by house sparrows. Also, how could I deter house sparrows, while attracting other birds.? It is basically a perfect box for flickers.
FerrariBell 5 years ago
I find the debate of what is "natural" interesting. We humans have dubbed the House Sparrow, originally from Europe, "invasive." However, most people in the U.S. where this bird is considered invasive, are of European decent.
FerrariBell 5 years ago 2
Yeah, that's ironic, but we brought them over here, and they're doing a job on our native birds. You can get idealistic if you want, but you have to be realistic in the end.
CAbluebirder 4 years ago 2
Sorry, but allowing many native American cavity-nesting species diminish to near-extinction is not an option to me simply because my ancestors were unwise.
KentuckyLadyLiberty 4 years ago
Well, it's just two male house sparrows wrestling for a good nesting cave. Nothing unusual, nothing unnatural.
scmcg 5 years ago
We've had a bluebird box in our backyard for 7years. Every year a pair of bluebirds come and make it their home, raise at least two broods of babies, and give us their beautiful songs. Every year, however, I see sparrows attack the bluebirds. Last year I saw sparrow fly out of the box only to open up the box and see five baby bluebirds with their heads smashed in.
I hate sparrows.
StellaDjango 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
House Sparrows are a threatened species, and you hate them, because the don't sing as beautiful as Blue Birds?
You are truely a fashist at heart!
Gross!!!
scmcg 4 years ago
Check your facts, first about sparrows and then about fascism. (Like how to spell, "fascist," for example.) House sparrows and starlings are the only two species of birds not protected by law, so that would mean they are not a threatened species. And to call me a fascist for hating sparrows, well, thanks for the laugh!
Thanks to people like you, reckless with adjectives and labels, few people actually understand the weight of words like "fascist"
"You are truly a" fool "at heart!"
StellaDjango 4 years ago
For StellaDjango, a fact check:
1) American laws are not worldwide.
2) There are 3 species, not 2.
3) House sparrows are threatened in Europe.
4) Fascism seeks an object to blame for some problem, then tries to destroy that object "for the better good." Whether it be Jews for Germans or sparrows for bluebirds, it's still fascist, and all suffer from it. I've seen people destroy bluebirds while trying to destroy sparrows. And are sparrows really to blame for the decline of bluebirds?
ccoraxfan 3 years ago
That's the worst moral equivalence I've seen: equating the horrors of the Holocaust to house sparrows is sickening.
How did the Nazis react to dissenters? They labeled them with pejorative names, like labeling "fascist" anyone who does not agree about sparrow.
Here's a fact check errand for you: look up IRONIC.
Go ahead, keep posting your busybody self-righteous revisionist bilge. I'm canceling my Youtube registration . The next time you compare Jews to birds I won't be around to see it.
StellaDjango 3 years ago
It's at a different level, for sure. But I thought you would be able to see the similarity between these two scenarios. I guess I was expecting too much.
You might notice that I was not comparing the horrors of the holocaust with sparrows, I was comparing attitudes and methods. I was not the one who brought up the facsism, but I did see the parallel the other commenter was speaking of.
If YouTube comments make you so angry, perhaps it's best if you do cancel.
ccoraxfan 3 years ago
Also, try actually watching the video. The sparrow attacks then drags a lifeless body out of the nest. It was not harmlessly "wrestling."
What about the dead female bluebird I pulled out of our nest three years ago? Was the sparrow just "wrestling" then? How about the five baby bluebirds with their heads pecked in? Just "wrestling"?
"Nothing unusual, nothing unnatural" you say. Sounds like you're unusually myopic and unnaturally idiotic.
Oops, too "fascist" for you?
StellaDjango 4 years ago
You are confused. A house sparrow does not drags a lifeless body out of the nest. They simply don't have physical ability to do it. A bluebird escaped on his own.
starlinca 4 years ago
Does anyone here actually watch the video and/or actually read comments before they post their comments?
StellaDjango 4 years ago
Did YOU actually watch the video? The BLUE bird in the video is trying to escape. You can plainly see it if you watch his legs and body. The sparrow is trying to continue the attack. The sparrow does not have enough physical strength to move another bird it's on size. Also, he does not have the talons of a bird of prey and is not capable of carrying anything.
starlinca 4 years ago
Sorry. The video is very misleading.
starlinca 4 years ago
I just Wiki'ed House Sparrow, and if the author of the article is correct, then the House Sparrow, Starling, and Pigeon are all not Federally protected in the US. They have become the most numerous birds in the US. It also says that the House Sparrow population is declining in it's home area. Is that what you mean by threatened species? In the US and Australia they are considered pests. It also mentions them as a major reason for the decline of Bluebirds here in the US.
Snerticus 3 years ago