Once again... The Samurai is not the one who is challenging the European knight. It is one person with a sword vs. another. European Knights did not have as much training, or as much honor as the Samurai, but had better armor, and more strength. It is the wielder, not the blade.
@Expunge6667 European Knights trained since boyhood, so it seems they had easily as much training as samurai. As for honour, it would be more accurate to say they had different concepts of honour rather than one of them having less honour.
Think of Kambei from Seven Samurai - he is introduced shaving off his top-knot for a disguise to save a child. Many samurai would find that dishonourable, but how good is a form of honour that values a hairstyle over a child's life?
Lmao. I like how all the fanboys are all heartbroken of the failing of the katana. You guys were probably expecting him to run up a wall in slow motion and do flips. This isnt a movie and its not the best fucking sword ever made if you cant accept that then your ignorant
Longsword is just more versatile. Far more defensive/offensive. The two blades give you a greater range of cuts and angles/ways to perform the cuts. Plus it isn't brittle and can absorb a great deal of shock on the flat of the blade.
WTF is wrong with you!?! Complete FAIL in the use of a katana!!! A katana should NEVER! make contact with another sword, and if there is NO other option than deflection, there is a specific part of the blade meant for that! Hint... Its not the edge! WOW! is about all I have left.....
@zukuru Didn't mean to come on so strongly, its just what a katana is. It is not just a sword but is believe to be a living breathing spirit. It hold the soul of the samurai himself. To disrespect a katana by using it as you are in this video would be no different than disrespecting someones grave.
@zukuru keep in mind the katana is a rather delicate weapon,
What TheReven1 said is somewhat true, you should avoid having a katana deflect another blade, but its not a last resort, its quite common but you block with the face of the blade not the edge, if you block with the edge, after a while cutting with the katana is like cutting a bone with a serrated knife.
@Dumoras No not even close. I am obsessed with all things military, an interest I picked up in the USMC. I find midieval combat the most interesting and even more, the samurai. In the USMC we believe in honor and for myself, followed bushido as much as I was able. I am an avid martial artist so no surprise that I spend a large portion of freetime trying the learn historical facts of kenjutsu and happen to be intrigued by the Tokugawa period. The rest of my time goes to my other obsession, poker.
@coppersandwich Amen. Anyone who thinks that a sword should never be used in defense of the wielder has clearly never had to defend themselves with one.
You can´t stand a chance against such a much longer blade. This is´nt a real keen Katana from 1500 or so, so cool down. There is no dishonored spirit ;)
why the hell is the guy with the katana not going into a tradional kendo stance from the begining for christ sake he why doesnt he just practice simple evasion techqinues then come in from the side
@mechupanlamonda you can but then again you could also use literally any other move and not lose all option of binding and also not leave yourself wide open. just saying.
@TheBloodyBlackJackal Kicking can be part of deuling, but the benefit of a good kick doesn't outweigh the risks. If I can deflect a blade, I can deflect a kick. A sword has more reach. If you can kick at me, I can cut at you. A kick puts you off balance.
@mrakimbo "A sword has more reach. If you can kick at me, I can cut at you" Not if your bussy trying to bind me, or have taken the (I forgot the word for it) stance where the sword is above your head.
@mrakimbo Obviously you don't just kick whenever, you kick when the timing is right, and in these fights I see plenty of times when a solid kick would win the fight.
Kickig is really difficult in a swordfight. You have to be really close and if you are really close you need that balance. An other thing is that while a cut or thrust are likley to kill your opponent a kick is rather harmless in comparison. But it can be done and some people do it rather often.
@mechuplanlamonda isingle hand thrusts are usually not used with longsword it overextends you and leaves you vulnerable also you cant bind with a single hand thrust
I feel that the single hand thrust can be used once in a while. But never two times in the same sparring match. I think the key is to take your opponent by surprice with the one handed thrust and try to do it when your opponent is moving backwards. The same goes with the one handed cut. I agree that if your opponent is binding, then you are screwed. If your opponent is good it's very difficult to take him by surprice.
You may be interested in the final of last years steel tournament at swordfish.
watch?v=o2zA9EabWmM
There are a lot of one handed low cuts in there, but I think only the fist one conected.
But in the end I agree, the one handed thrust is usually not used, it's more like a cheesy thing you can do. Like a short edge cut to the hands from alber.
@volarion i have seen faster and more skilled people doing the single handed trust and it worked for them. it all depends on the skill and speed of the user.
don't like to critizice, but the guy with the longsword is pretty slow. also, i notice he didn't use the single handed trust, which would have been useful.
@mrakimbo really? wow, i guess i was wrong all this time. i mean, i did saw the grip was large enough for two hands, but i never thought you actually had to use both of them. this is a revelation to me. i guess all the people that use the one handed trust are as wrong as i was.
@mrakimbo Actually, longswords were balanced so they could be used with A) two hands B) ONE hand and a shield, C) Half handed (one hand on the handle and the other just about half way up the blade and D) both hands on on the blade using the hilt as a hammer/club/mace. Please know what your talking about before spreading ignorance and misinformation. Thank you!
The same can be said about hockey or football. But I can't really see what that have to do with anything. I mean if you say that FC Barcelona is really good and I say "I can beat them easily myself by shooting them with a gun and then go for the goal". That doesn't make any sense. =)
@gurkfisk89 You're retarded and miss the point, the point is; What is the point in Sword fighting? Just train on shooting guns cause that's what we use right now, not Swords, it'll come in handy when you need it in self defence now a stupid sword.
What's the point with football? It's fun and it gives you some exercise. Do you need any other reason than that it's fun?
If someone use a baseball bat it's not that far away from a sword. However if you want to learn self defence there is much better things you can train like krav maga or something that prepere you better for someone with a knife.
It's very unlikley people train any sword art because it's usefull.
@Luburium Funny thing is that I do sword fighting (ARMA) & just found it to be a fun hobby. But when I joined the Marines; I found it VERY useful for hand to hand combat with M-16A2s! The fundamentals of European sword fighting was about the same & it helps a lot in hand to hand combat with a weapon on your hands. I was ahead of the class using moves with the M-16 that they never learn, I alos was untouchable in pugil sticks; witch is suppose to resemble hand to Hand with a M-16...
@xxTeutonicKnightxx I am curious how swordfighting translated into a buttstock, bayonet thrust, and bayonet slash... especially in the 1+ foot difference in hand placement. And the pugil stick... If you said your kung fu staff training I wouldnt be so confused right now...
@Luburium Because you obviously havent experienced the elephant in modern combat my friend, its house to house, room to room, and trust me, a gut shot when i noticed the truth of it, face to face. Sticking a knife in someones temple is more common than your nightmares would let you believe. Please know before you speak as some of us know all to well...
Please use proper longsword stances. Of all the position I saw the longsword-fighter take, only one resembled an actual stance (in German I believe its pronounced "long-en-ort", or "long point" in English) where you take the sword and point it directly at the opponent (flats perpendicular to the ground) with nearly completely outstretched arms. Word of advice though: That stance he was in for the first half where the blade was pointing straight up, is very bad. It leaves you very exposed.
Intersting... but the skill of the wielder factors in more than the size of the weapon. A clutz with a zweihander is probably not going to defeat a master with a dagger.
Of course, the Y chromosome has the winning-fights-with-swords-gene.
I soppose you haven't done any swordfighting and sure that you haven't done any swordighting with a skilled woman. The outcome is determined by skill and luck, not by gender.
@ELEMENT1111100 actually, no. i've seen sparring videos and the girl dominated most of the guys. she was more agressive and had a good grappling technique. it all depends on the skill.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS KENDODOKA DOING!!!!!! bad everything!!!!!!!!!!!! especially footwork!!!!!!!! ahh if you don't know how to properly use a katana don't fucking pick it up!!!!!
@kenshiliamateseru (shakes head) i realized that... its called a longsword for a reason, but if you check out bokken vs longsword in the video next to this it seems longer, could be the hockey gloves these guys are wearing
It's called training. You arn't born a swordfighter you have to train to become one. A white belt karate practitioners wouldn't portray karate at it's best but someday they perhaps will.
Yet another Longsword vs Katana clip where the longsworder dosen't use proper footwork..Strike from left to right is how you should fence, if you strike an oberhau from your right side, follow after with your right foot. If you do not then the cut is poor and insincere because your right side lingers...
You seriously cannot say "All historical battles prove katanas are always on top." With out giving a solid fact. at least say "Look up the battle of blah blah blah in 18 blahers"
And then saying we are close minded because we don't believe you cause you didn't give us FACTS? IF you proved to me that there was a battle that proved this "Fact" I would say alright thanks for pointing that out. You my friend are a complete moron.
As to this duel, it is retarded. my niece can fight better.
being the shorter weapon here the katana duelist should've gone on the offensive more, overcoming the intimidation of the longer weapon.
Staying on the defensive will not help it win.
Also, the longsword user seems content to let his weapon slide softly and score a hit. I dont think such blows would cause any significant damage in a real fight.
This is retarded. The katana is not supposed to be used like that. It's use for moving in such a way you do not have to block, but slash the opponent in a single blow, moving out of the swords way, and thus killing your opponent. Check out kendo. We're talking milliseconds worth of slash time.
I don't think a katana is used like that. Every sword requires different fighting techniques, different stances, etc. So if you're using a sword with a technique suited for another sword coming from another part of the world, then you're definitely going to lose.
@Razieli812 that's the point, he CAN'T get in close because the longsword completely outranges him. this is the difference between what you see in movies, and reality.
it's just like with rifles, sure a pistol is meant to be used up close, but what good is that if your opponent shoots you with a rifle from 500 yards away?
@tearsinrain86 I understand what it is that you are saying but it has been proven that the katana beats out the longsword. In the hands of one who knows the true ins and outs of the weapons in play there is no comparison. The katana takes the win all the time. The speed and capabilities of the katana completely out perform the long sword. The fight was too static and lacked true swordplay and flexibility.
@tearsinrain86 I think your pride in your own sword style is preventing you from being objective here. And in this video the guy/girl using the katana is bouncing around like an idiot, without any actual skill in katana swordplay, it's likely the case with most of the people you've seen using katana.
@Razieli812 I'm sure for someone so confident in there position you must have some specific examples of katana wielding swordsman decisevely defeating longsword armed soldiers. Because if by chance you do not have any such encounters to back up your claim that the katana is the indisputable weapon, than I kindly ask that you recind your inflamatory and baseless claim.
P.S. You may post your evidence on either this video or in my inbox, I care not wich you do.
@TheKrazy7 When did i ever say one sword style was better than the other? I was saying a person who doesn't know how to use a katana, isn't a valid representative of the style. In sword Style both types are too close for me to call, in the swords Katana have been proven Superior in both cutting and thrusting, katana only loses out on actual length.
To be fair, the longsword is about more than just cutting and thrusting. Its design allows it to do more than just cut and thrust, it can integrate grappling directly into its use leading to more disarms, sweeps, and blunt smashes which the katana is ill suited for because of its curved blade and lack of a large cross hilt. This ability to tangle your opponent's weapon then strike while it is still tangled is going to be a problem no matter how sharp the weapon or skilled the user.
@tearsinrain86 Thats great and all. I made no reference to anime at all. I am pretty sure your school teaches you well. However if you check all historic battles with similar weapon comparisons the Katana has come out on top. If you dont believe that or want to do your research then you can stay close minded to the truth, you wouldnt be the first. Personally I dont care how you feel because I know the truth. You have an opinion. Leave it at that. Any comments after this will only feed my troll
All historic battles with similar weapon comparisons? What historic battles are you referring to? European longswords were never really brought to Japan at any point in history, as by the time there was serious European and Japanese contact, the Longsword was out of favor. The Longsword was a /Medieval/ weapon primarily, it would be rarely seen as a battlefield weapon by the latter half of the 16th century.
@Kaosbreakercloud Concerning your comment about a katana outperforming a longsword, I must ask where you came across this information. In terms of versatility, I'm pretty sure longsword trumps katana (halbschwert, mortschlag, ect.) Also, you mentioned that a person skilled in the katana will always beat a longsword user, yet you fail to mention the skill of the theoretical longsword opponent. It's not the swords that are better, it's the skill of the user. Case closed.
@SanderCohensPocket0 i trained in katana (kenjutsu i only used bokken never held a katana in my hand only
a iaito) and tried the long sword, i can say that the cross hilt is a big advantage that the katana does'nt have,
but kenjutsu has been passed continuosly to master to apprentice until this day, so the question is: today's longsword practitioners have a skill comparable to the masters of middlage and renassaince?
@GetitUnderCool That is a very good question. I guess we'll never really figure it out either, since Western martial arts have only recently been practiced again, and were, to my knowlege, passed on not only from master to student, but also through "fightbooks." Thus, the only way they can learn now is through these fightbooks. I wish westerners were as good at preserving their martial arts as easterners were/are.
It's still in such infancy that it's hard to imagine anyone today could hold their own against a fechtmeister. Would be pretty awesome to behold someone with that much skill fighting, though. Maybe someday.
@LordHannigan I was just about to say that until I read your comment. Seriously, someone actually skilled in the way of the samurai sword would do better...
One passage; "An article from a different source on the 17th reported at least 146(!) cases of looting, including failed attempts that resulted in an arrest. Some of the looting is food, but also people taking cash and brand name clothing. The article also talks about a man at an evacuation center attempting to molest a little girl."
Actually the looting appears to be more common than the police and the media would like to admit. There's something of a "Smokescreen" in Japanese society. Even though things are happening, they don't want to admit it (We do this as well). This is why people still buy into Sumo wrestling even though there is a lot of evidence there's tons of rigging involved in the sport.
If, as you say, looting is "just another boring part of reality", why is it noticed so often? Why was it noticed in Katrina? Why was it noticed in Indonesia?
Looting is not just another part of the landscape. A building with windows is something that you see every day; Looting is not. It's sensationalist and eye-drawing. It would be more akin to very unusual circumstances. Which is why looting is noticed /so often/. It is not something which goes unnoticed.
No, because the Media likes to present a simulacra of reality which people will buy into and become fantasized by. This includes sensationlist images of "foreign nations", and our right-wing media doesn't like to praise European countries. Don't trust the popular media. Don't trust TV.
Which is why your example is completely different from the one with the looting. There is /always/ good reason for looting and reporters will jump on looting to report it. Ergo, the appropriate example would be if there is good reason to look for Jed and thus people would be looking for Jed.
If there is good reason to note the building, and multiple reporters don't notice it, and there is no evidence of it, then yes.
Conversely, if there is a journalist who /doesn't/ report that there isn't a building with pink windows at Times' Square, are we to believe that there /is/ a building with pink windows at Times' Square?
Because yours is just a random guy who could or could not be wrong, and there is no way to verify whether he is right or wrong. I at least have a printed resource I can direct attention towards.
If everyone else actively looks, and there is reason to notice that there is a Jed, and no one notices there being a jed, then yes it is reasonable to believe there is not a jed. Especialyl if the single person can't point to any evidence of there being a Jed.
As stated, there are lots of reports of the subject which don't report looting. One random guy saying there was or was not looting means diddly squat. He could be right or wrong, randomly.
In a way, actually. Or that their illusions of reality were broken by the sudden abrupt exposure with non-filtered reality forced them free for a moment. You see similar reports from other disasters; 9/11, Katrina, and so on. It's not exclusive.
The media likes to present an image of reality which is simply a simulacra of what reality actually is, in order to present a distorted illusion of reality. This creates a self-referential loop which dizzies the population into a sheep-like state of disorientation.
I'm looking through a few powerful research engines and I'm finding a bunch of reports of people taking precautions against looting (Ie; Czech republic mobilizing soldiers), but no actual reports of looting.
Are they knowledgeable in all things or just a few things? Are they even applying the tools they're learning from their fields appropriately? Not necessarily.
Which is why it would have been reported. It makes your story more interesting. There is no reason why you would ignore it "because it isn't interesting".
Just living /in/ a country is even worse. How does that turn someone into a reliable source on all things related to the events in a nation's history?
It would definitely make an interesting story /even more interesting/. People reported looting in Katrina, Indonesia, and so on after all, and there was massive destruction in relation to the amount of looting.
Maybe, maybe, maybe. You keep jumping on maybes. Extremely unlikely maybes at that. What would be more interesting than chaos in the streets? And it isn't just one reporter; there are lots of reporters dealing with any subject.
If the media can hype up a situation to boost ratings, they will. If there were looting, they would have zeroed in on it like they zero in on any number of political and/or sports related riots.
I wasn't excluding anyone. I was stating simple facts of geography and culture. Would we accept the conditions in Peru as being exemplary of the United States? Absolutely not.
..How do I know this? Because there was no looting reported.
Let me get this straight, you want me to find a report which states expressly there was no looting? That's idiotic. The fact that there aren't reports is enough. Find me one report which states there /was/ looting.
Looting is caused by disorder and chaos in a disaster situation. If there is a significant governmental presence which is able to maintain control, there is no looting. If there is not a significant governmental presence which is able to maintain control, there is looting. The Japanese government was able to maintain control after the disasters, partly because the disaster was severe but with the most damage isolated to a few key areas.
No, it's not racist. It's called Geography. Americans aren't Europeans either. Neither are North Africans. They're Americans and North Africans. Turkey is an Anatolian/Middle Eastern country.
Rioting over football and rioting over a natural disaster are two completely different things. Don't mix the two up.
As stated, I was referring to European countries. Turkey is not really a European country.
Don't listen to the media as much as you are. Why are they emphasizing the nuclear reactors so much when the amount of radiation they're putting out is actually less significant than many disasters in the US, related to Coal plants?
The people giving aid are typically external; there is a vast support network going to the afflicted areas.
@Expunge6667 they had just as much training and honor was just as important to a knight as to a samurai
volarion 2 weeks ago
Once again... The Samurai is not the one who is challenging the European knight. It is one person with a sword vs. another. European Knights did not have as much training, or as much honor as the Samurai, but had better armor, and more strength. It is the wielder, not the blade.
Expunge6667 2 weeks ago
@Expunge6667 European Knights trained since boyhood, so it seems they had easily as much training as samurai. As for honour, it would be more accurate to say they had different concepts of honour rather than one of them having less honour.
Think of Kambei from Seven Samurai - he is introduced shaving off his top-knot for a disguise to save a child. Many samurai would find that dishonourable, but how good is a form of honour that values a hairstyle over a child's life?
Railstarfish 2 weeks ago
Lmao. I like how all the fanboys are all heartbroken of the failing of the katana. You guys were probably expecting him to run up a wall in slow motion and do flips. This isnt a movie and its not the best fucking sword ever made if you cant accept that then your ignorant
misfit13091 3 weeks ago
Use of katana without it's art of wielding......
Toufiq91 3 weeks ago
@coppersandwich kendo is not real martial fencing not to come off as a smartass but its too robotic and predictable iado may be better but idk
volarion 3 weeks ago
Not meant as an insult if this is wrong, but: is the user of the katana a girl?
KingMakerRook 1 month ago
ive trained with both and i have to say the longsword is (in my opinion) the better tool of war.
SirStokie1 2 months ago 5
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Longsword is just more versatile. Far more defensive/offensive. The two blades give you a greater range of cuts and angles/ways to perform the cuts. Plus it isn't brittle and can absorb a great deal of shock on the flat of the blade.
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WTF is wrong with you!?! Complete FAIL in the use of a katana!!! A katana should NEVER! make contact with another sword, and if there is NO other option than deflection, there is a specific part of the blade meant for that! Hint... Its not the edge! WOW! is about all I have left.....
TheReven1 2 months ago
@TheReven1 My friend....
First - WTF / Complete Fail is quite an affront...
Second - a sword is a wepon and not the holy cow.
Third - we fight, what are you doing ?
merry x-mas
zukuru 2 months ago
@zukuru Didn't mean to come on so strongly, its just what a katana is. It is not just a sword but is believe to be a living breathing spirit. It hold the soul of the samurai himself. To disrespect a katana by using it as you are in this video would be no different than disrespecting someones grave.
TheReven1 2 months ago
@TheReven1 everybody should stick to his believes.
For me is a sword a piece of steel, which was formed to fight with....
zukuru 2 months ago 6
@zukuru keep in mind the katana is a rather delicate weapon,
What TheReven1 said is somewhat true, you should avoid having a katana deflect another blade, but its not a last resort, its quite common but you block with the face of the blade not the edge, if you block with the edge, after a while cutting with the katana is like cutting a bone with a serrated knife.
wheresthecorporal 1 month ago
@TheReven1 i lol'ed...
Too much anime i see
Dumoras 1 week ago
@Dumoras No not even close. I am obsessed with all things military, an interest I picked up in the USMC. I find midieval combat the most interesting and even more, the samurai. In the USMC we believe in honor and for myself, followed bushido as much as I was able. I am an avid martial artist so no surprise that I spend a large portion of freetime trying the learn historical facts of kenjutsu and happen to be intrigued by the Tokugawa period. The rest of my time goes to my other obsession, poker.
TheReven1 5 days ago
//A katana should NEVER! make contact with another sword//
TheReven1, you speak noncense. Check any kendo championship.
coppersandwich 1 month ago
@coppersandwich Amen. Anyone who thinks that a sword should never be used in defense of the wielder has clearly never had to defend themselves with one.
BillyJoeBobFenester 1 month ago
@TheReven1
You can´t stand a chance against such a much longer blade. This is´nt a real keen Katana from 1500 or so, so cool down. There is no dishonored spirit ;)
Corellon666 3 weeks ago
why the hell is the guy with the katana not going into a tradional kendo stance from the begining for christ sake he why doesnt he just practice simple evasion techqinues then come in from the side
biglizzy1234 2 months ago
My dear foe 240p, we meet again...
KingMakerRook 2 months ago
@mechupanlamonda you can but then again you could also use literally any other move and not lose all option of binding and also not leave yourself wide open. just saying.
volarion 2 months ago
Why is it that when I watch these fights, no one ever kicks??? Come on thats the simplist tactic ever, no one expects it.
TheBloodyBlackJackal 3 months ago
@TheBloodyBlackJackal Kicking can be part of deuling, but the benefit of a good kick doesn't outweigh the risks. If I can deflect a blade, I can deflect a kick. A sword has more reach. If you can kick at me, I can cut at you. A kick puts you off balance.
mrakimbo 2 months ago
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@mrakimbo "A sword has more reach. If you can kick at me, I can cut at you" Not if your bussy trying to bind me, or have taken the (I forgot the word for it) stance where the sword is above your head.
TheBloodyBlackJackal 2 months ago
@mrakimbo Obviously you don't just kick whenever, you kick when the timing is right, and in these fights I see plenty of times when a solid kick would win the fight.
TheBloodyBlackJackal 2 months ago
@TheBloodyBlackJackal
Kickig is really difficult in a swordfight. You have to be really close and if you are really close you need that balance. An other thing is that while a cut or thrust are likley to kill your opponent a kick is rather harmless in comparison. But it can be done and some people do it rather often.
gurkfisk89 2 months ago
good work of both of the fencers
Trollvolk 3 months ago
@mechuplanlamonda isingle hand thrusts are usually not used with longsword it overextends you and leaves you vulnerable also you cant bind with a single hand thrust
volarion 3 months ago
@volarion
I feel that the single hand thrust can be used once in a while. But never two times in the same sparring match. I think the key is to take your opponent by surprice with the one handed thrust and try to do it when your opponent is moving backwards. The same goes with the one handed cut. I agree that if your opponent is binding, then you are screwed. If your opponent is good it's very difficult to take him by surprice.
gurkfisk89 3 months ago
@volarion
You may be interested in the final of last years steel tournament at swordfish.
watch?v=o2zA9EabWmM
There are a lot of one handed low cuts in there, but I think only the fist one conected.
But in the end I agree, the one handed thrust is usually not used, it's more like a cheesy thing you can do. Like a short edge cut to the hands from alber.
gurkfisk89 3 months ago
@volarion i have seen faster and more skilled people doing the single handed trust and it worked for them. it all depends on the skill and speed of the user.
mechupanlamonda 2 months ago
don't like to critizice, but the guy with the longsword is pretty slow. also, i notice he didn't use the single handed trust, which would have been useful.
mechupanlamonda 3 months ago
@mechupanlamonda Longswords were made for two-handing.
mrakimbo 2 months ago
@mrakimbo really? wow, i guess i was wrong all this time. i mean, i did saw the grip was large enough for two hands, but i never thought you actually had to use both of them. this is a revelation to me. i guess all the people that use the one handed trust are as wrong as i was.
mechupanlamonda 2 months ago
@mechupanlamonda No you are right, don't believe anything just because someone says its true.
TheReven1 2 months ago
@mrakimbo Actually, longswords were balanced so they could be used with A) two hands B) ONE hand and a shield, C) Half handed (one hand on the handle and the other just about half way up the blade and D) both hands on on the blade using the hilt as a hammer/club/mace. Please know what your talking about before spreading ignorance and misinformation. Thank you!
TheReven1 2 months ago
vergil vs dante :3
AL94RUSS 4 months ago
Or you can get a Gun and just dominate.
Luburium 4 months ago
@Luburium
The same can be said about hockey or football. But I can't really see what that have to do with anything. I mean if you say that FC Barcelona is really good and I say "I can beat them easily myself by shooting them with a gun and then go for the goal". That doesn't make any sense. =)
gurkfisk89 4 months ago
@gurkfisk89 You're retarded and miss the point, the point is; What is the point in Sword fighting? Just train on shooting guns cause that's what we use right now, not Swords, it'll come in handy when you need it in self defence now a stupid sword.
Luburium 4 months ago
@Luburium
What's the point with football? It's fun and it gives you some exercise. Do you need any other reason than that it's fun?
If someone use a baseball bat it's not that far away from a sword. However if you want to learn self defence there is much better things you can train like krav maga or something that prepere you better for someone with a knife.
It's very unlikley people train any sword art because it's usefull.
gurkfisk89 4 months ago
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xxTeutonicKnightxx 4 months ago
@Luburium Funny thing is that I do sword fighting (ARMA) & just found it to be a fun hobby. But when I joined the Marines; I found it VERY useful for hand to hand combat with M-16A2s! The fundamentals of European sword fighting was about the same & it helps a lot in hand to hand combat with a weapon on your hands. I was ahead of the class using moves with the M-16 that they never learn, I alos was untouchable in pugil sticks; witch is suppose to resemble hand to Hand with a M-16...
xxTeutonicKnightxx 4 months ago
@xxTeutonicKnightxx I am curious how swordfighting translated into a buttstock, bayonet thrust, and bayonet slash... especially in the 1+ foot difference in hand placement. And the pugil stick... If you said your kung fu staff training I wouldnt be so confused right now...
TheReven1 2 months ago
@Luburium Because you obviously havent experienced the elephant in modern combat my friend, its house to house, room to room, and trust me, a gut shot when i noticed the truth of it, face to face. Sticking a knife in someones temple is more common than your nightmares would let you believe. Please know before you speak as some of us know all to well...
TheReven1 2 months ago
Sugestion:
Falcata with Shield style VS Musashi style (Two Blades)
Pls, I always wants see that. :D
jhonny17x 5 months ago in playlist Mais vídeos de zukuru
Please use proper longsword stances. Of all the position I saw the longsword-fighter take, only one resembled an actual stance (in German I believe its pronounced "long-en-ort", or "long point" in English) where you take the sword and point it directly at the opponent (flats perpendicular to the ground) with nearly completely outstretched arms. Word of advice though: That stance he was in for the first half where the blade was pointing straight up, is very bad. It leaves you very exposed.
UrzaWeatherlight 6 months ago
that was a short looking katana. Are you sure that was full length?
Arfat 6 months ago
Intersting... but the skill of the wielder factors in more than the size of the weapon. A clutz with a zweihander is probably not going to defeat a master with a dagger.
Sh4d0wKat 7 months ago 9
Guy with the katana, cannot use it.
siratthebox 7 months ago 2
Pit a woman with any sword against a man with any sword and the man always prevails. Foolish video.
ELEMENT1111100 7 months ago
@ELEMENT1111100
Of course, the Y chromosome has the winning-fights-with-swords-gene.
I soppose you haven't done any swordfighting and sure that you haven't done any swordighting with a skilled woman. The outcome is determined by skill and luck, not by gender.
gurkfisk89 7 months ago
@gurkfisk89 Males are genetically superior. End of discussion.
ELEMENT1111100 7 months ago
@ELEMENT1111100 lol im a male and that was sorda sexist
multibambams 7 months ago
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ELEMENT1111100 7 months ago
@ELEMENT1111100 actually, no. i've seen sparring videos and the girl dominated most of the guys. she was more agressive and had a good grappling technique. it all depends on the skill.
mechupanlamonda 3 months ago
STECHEN verdammt nochmal! Früher gabs kein Codex Belli :OOOOOOOOOOOOO
AuGeUNDoHr1 7 months ago
Get a bigger Katana. :p
jeffdoeskungfu 7 months ago
he is using the katana as more of a rapier
acdcya 7 months ago
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS KENDODOKA DOING!!!!!! bad everything!!!!!!!!!!!! especially footwork!!!!!!!! ahh if you don't know how to properly use a katana don't fucking pick it up!!!!!
kenshiliamateseru 7 months ago
also that katan looks pretty damn small for a katana
KulakxFilms 7 months ago
@KulakxFilms the katana is a perfectly proper length. The reason it appears short, is because the longsword is next to it!!!!!!!!
kenshiliamateseru 7 months ago
@kenshiliamateseru (shakes head) i realized that... its called a longsword for a reason, but if you check out bokken vs longsword in the video next to this it seems longer, could be the hockey gloves these guys are wearing
KulakxFilms 7 months ago
is this a sertain martial art that involves all these different weapons? if so id be soooo interested
FitzGarrett 7 months ago
@FitzGarrett no! they are portraying their martial arts badly!
kenshiliamateseru 7 months ago
@kenshiliamateseru
It's called training. You arn't born a swordfighter you have to train to become one. A white belt karate practitioners wouldn't portray karate at it's best but someday they perhaps will.
gurkfisk89 7 months ago
At 1:33 the longsword stands so close it hurts my eyes, one step back and he would still be able to hit his opponent
FingonNL 8 months ago
A weapon is only good as it user.... v,v
Bananadude1000 8 months ago
Lol this is stupid the longsword has a fundamental advantage vs a katana
racto98 8 months ago
That's the shortest katana Team Swagma has ever seen. No wonder you can't compare
TeamSwagmaChannel 9 months ago
Yet another Longsword vs Katana clip where the longsworder dosen't use proper footwork..Strike from left to right is how you should fence, if you strike an oberhau from your right side, follow after with your right foot. If you do not then the cut is poor and insincere because your right side lingers...
SwordOwar 9 months ago
You seriously cannot say "All historical battles prove katanas are always on top." With out giving a solid fact. at least say "Look up the battle of blah blah blah in 18 blahers"
And then saying we are close minded because we don't believe you cause you didn't give us FACTS? IF you proved to me that there was a battle that proved this "Fact" I would say alright thanks for pointing that out. You my friend are a complete moron.
As to this duel, it is retarded. my niece can fight better.
Aerandir24 9 months ago
@Aerandir24
"...my niece can fight better."
Nice to hear that there are more women out there practicing martial arts with swords. There are not that many of them.
gurkfisk89 9 months ago 15
being the shorter weapon here the katana duelist should've gone on the offensive more, overcoming the intimidation of the longer weapon.
Staying on the defensive will not help it win.
Also, the longsword user seems content to let his weapon slide softly and score a hit. I dont think such blows would cause any significant damage in a real fight.
kalorful 9 months ago
This is retarded. The katana is not supposed to be used like that. It's use for moving in such a way you do not have to block, but slash the opponent in a single blow, moving out of the swords way, and thus killing your opponent. Check out kendo. We're talking milliseconds worth of slash time.
spigot88 9 months ago
I don't think a katana is used like that. Every sword requires different fighting techniques, different stances, etc. So if you're using a sword with a technique suited for another sword coming from another part of the world, then you're definitely going to lose.
farhan3d 9 months ago
The Long Sword wins. The Katana is overrated.
norseczar27 9 months ago
@norseczar27 not against my technique. reverse grip katana. easier to block then you thrust in as if you had a dagger.
maxgunn555 9 months ago
The katana guy sucks, he's to afraid to get in close like a katana is supposed to be used.
Razieli812 9 months ago
@Razieli812 that's the point, he CAN'T get in close because the longsword completely outranges him. this is the difference between what you see in movies, and reality.
it's just like with rifles, sure a pistol is meant to be used up close, but what good is that if your opponent shoots you with a rifle from 500 yards away?
tearsinrain86 9 months ago
@tearsinrain86 I understand what it is that you are saying but it has been proven that the katana beats out the longsword. In the hands of one who knows the true ins and outs of the weapons in play there is no comparison. The katana takes the win all the time. The speed and capabilities of the katana completely out perform the long sword. The fight was too static and lacked true swordplay and flexibility.
Kaosbreakercloud 9 months ago
@Kaosbreakercloud "it has been proven that the katana beats out the longsword"
total nonsense, i fenced for years and very rarely did anyone using a katana beat one of our longsword users
"too static and lacked true swordplay and flexibility"
lol this isn't anime, in real life nobody wants to get fucking stabbed
tearsinrain86 9 months ago
@tearsinrain86 I think your pride in your own sword style is preventing you from being objective here. And in this video the guy/girl using the katana is bouncing around like an idiot, without any actual skill in katana swordplay, it's likely the case with most of the people you've seen using katana.
Razieli812 9 months ago
@Razieli812 i think you've never used a katana against a longsword, or have any fencing experience whatsoever
you've got a lot of anime on your channel though, so i'm thinking 'faggot weeaboo' is more your description
tearsinrain86 9 months ago
@tearsinrain86 Jumping to insults because i don't agree with you? weak.
Razieli812 8 months ago
@Razieli812 I'm sure for someone so confident in there position you must have some specific examples of katana wielding swordsman decisevely defeating longsword armed soldiers. Because if by chance you do not have any such encounters to back up your claim that the katana is the indisputable weapon, than I kindly ask that you recind your inflamatory and baseless claim.
P.S. You may post your evidence on either this video or in my inbox, I care not wich you do.
TheKrazy7 8 months ago
@TheKrazy7 When did i ever say one sword style was better than the other? I was saying a person who doesn't know how to use a katana, isn't a valid representative of the style. In sword Style both types are too close for me to call, in the swords Katana have been proven Superior in both cutting and thrusting, katana only loses out on actual length.
Razieli812 8 months ago
@Razieli812
To be fair, the longsword is about more than just cutting and thrusting. Its design allows it to do more than just cut and thrust, it can integrate grappling directly into its use leading to more disarms, sweeps, and blunt smashes which the katana is ill suited for because of its curved blade and lack of a large cross hilt. This ability to tangle your opponent's weapon then strike while it is still tangled is going to be a problem no matter how sharp the weapon or skilled the user.
Psychlonic 7 months ago
@tearsinrain86 Thats great and all. I made no reference to anime at all. I am pretty sure your school teaches you well. However if you check all historic battles with similar weapon comparisons the Katana has come out on top. If you dont believe that or want to do your research then you can stay close minded to the truth, you wouldnt be the first. Personally I dont care how you feel because I know the truth. You have an opinion. Leave it at that. Any comments after this will only feed my troll
Kaosbreakercloud 9 months ago
@Kaosbreakercloud the Portuguese fought the Japanese, using rapiers, and crushed the shit out of them
umad weeaboo?
tearsinrain86 9 months ago
@tearsinrain86 Cool story Bro, Cool Story!!!!! :)
Kaosbreakercloud 9 months ago
@Kaosbreakercloud
All historic battles with similar weapon comparisons? What historic battles are you referring to? European longswords were never really brought to Japan at any point in history, as by the time there was serious European and Japanese contact, the Longsword was out of favor. The Longsword was a /Medieval/ weapon primarily, it would be rarely seen as a battlefield weapon by the latter half of the 16th century.
HereTheArtBegins 9 months ago
@Kaosbreakercloud
It's been proven that the katana beats out the longsword? Proven how? Where? Under what conditions? By whom?
The katana takes the win all the time? Where? I've never even heard of such contests.
Static and lacking true swordplay and flexibility? My friend, you've never seen true Medieval swordsmanship then.
HereTheArtBegins 9 months ago
@Kaosbreakercloud Concerning your comment about a katana outperforming a longsword, I must ask where you came across this information. In terms of versatility, I'm pretty sure longsword trumps katana (halbschwert, mortschlag, ect.) Also, you mentioned that a person skilled in the katana will always beat a longsword user, yet you fail to mention the skill of the theoretical longsword opponent. It's not the swords that are better, it's the skill of the user. Case closed.
SanderCohensPocket0 8 months ago
@SanderCohensPocket0 i trained in katana (kenjutsu i only used bokken never held a katana in my hand only
a iaito) and tried the long sword, i can say that the cross hilt is a big advantage that the katana does'nt have,
but kenjutsu has been passed continuosly to master to apprentice until this day, so the question is: today's longsword practitioners have a skill comparable to the masters of middlage and renassaince?
GetitUnderCool 8 months ago
@GetitUnderCool That is a very good question. I guess we'll never really figure it out either, since Western martial arts have only recently been practiced again, and were, to my knowlege, passed on not only from master to student, but also through "fightbooks." Thus, the only way they can learn now is through these fightbooks. I wish westerners were as good at preserving their martial arts as easterners were/are.
SanderCohensPocket0 8 months ago
@SanderCohensPocket0 exactly!
GetitUnderCool 8 months ago
@GetitUnderCool
It's still in such infancy that it's hard to imagine anyone today could hold their own against a fechtmeister. Would be pretty awesome to behold someone with that much skill fighting, though. Maybe someday.
Psychlonic 7 months ago
@Psychlonic to reach that skill level someone should dedicate to fencing at least 5 hours a day, every day,
it has to be something more than a hobby!
GetitUnderCool 7 months ago
0:20 Dead.
Gratch2222 9 months ago
The person using the katana is using the wrong stance!
jEtPodcast 10 months ago
is that a woman with the katana?
mrfrankincense 10 months ago
Its not the weapon its the man behind the weapon.
LordHannigan 10 months ago
@LordHannigan Agreed. I'd still take a longsword.
Helltamirre 10 months ago
@LordHannigan I was just about to say that until I read your comment. Seriously, someone actually skilled in the way of the samurai sword would do better...
GodSwordofGabriel 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
See what I mean about the media presenting an illusion of reality in order to trick people into being mesmerized into a sheep-like state?
I like boxing, but even I noticed recently that all of the fights I've been watching have been /really one sided/. Unusually so
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
One passage; "An article from a different source on the 17th reported at least 146(!) cases of looting, including failed attempts that resulted in an arrest. Some of the looting is food, but also people taking cash and brand name clothing. The article also talks about a man at an evacuation center attempting to molest a little girl."
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Actually the looting appears to be more common than the police and the media would like to admit. There's something of a "Smokescreen" in Japanese society. Even though things are happening, they don't want to admit it (We do this as well). This is why people still buy into Sumo wrestling even though there is a lot of evidence there's tons of rigging involved in the sport.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
We learned that random accounts from random people are useless.
So, have you looked at my link? Apparently there is looting, and the reported stuff is probably a tiny fraction of the stuff going on.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
See why anecdotal accounts are useless? What did we learn today?
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Uh oh. I'm doing a bit of reading. Apparently there /is/ looting in Japan.
w w w . theatlantic . com / daily-dish / archive / 2011 / 03 / why-no-looting-in-japan-ctd / 174277 /
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
It was noticed in English speaking sources as well.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
The 2002 floods /were/ noticed, unfortunately. There are lots of reports on it.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
If, as you say, looting is "just another boring part of reality", why is it noticed so often? Why was it noticed in Katrina? Why was it noticed in Indonesia?
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Looting is not just another part of the landscape. A building with windows is something that you see every day; Looting is not. It's sensationalist and eye-drawing. It would be more akin to very unusual circumstances. Which is why looting is noticed /so often/. It is not something which goes unnoticed.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
No, because the Media likes to present a simulacra of reality which people will buy into and become fantasized by. This includes sensationlist images of "foreign nations", and our right-wing media doesn't like to praise European countries. Don't trust the popular media. Don't trust TV.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Which is why your example is completely different from the one with the looting. There is /always/ good reason for looting and reporters will jump on looting to report it. Ergo, the appropriate example would be if there is good reason to look for Jed and thus people would be looking for Jed.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
If there is good reason to note the building, and multiple reporters don't notice it, and there is no evidence of it, then yes.
Conversely, if there is a journalist who /doesn't/ report that there isn't a building with pink windows at Times' Square, are we to believe that there /is/ a building with pink windows at Times' Square?
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Because yours is just a random guy who could or could not be wrong, and there is no way to verify whether he is right or wrong. I at least have a printed resource I can direct attention towards.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
If everyone else actively looks, and there is reason to notice that there is a Jed, and no one notices there being a jed, then yes it is reasonable to believe there is not a jed. Especialyl if the single person can't point to any evidence of there being a Jed.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
That's not how journalism works. It is idiotic to assume that things are happening unless they state things /aren't/ happening.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
You should take this into consideration yourself.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Incorrect. As stated, I have numerous reports which do not report looting. You have a single, random guy.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
And because a chef says there are, doesn't mean that there actually are rats.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
This wasn't some small obscure event. This effected thousands of people.
And because someone says they saw a spider doesn't mean they actually saw a spider.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
As stated, there are lots of reports of the subject which don't report looting. One random guy saying there was or was not looting means diddly squat. He could be right or wrong, randomly.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Because those things are contradicted by other forms of evidence; such as philosophical and scientific proofs.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
And in fact, it's not more evidence than what I have, because I have a good number of reports of the subject which don't report looting.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Or, I like printed, verifiable resources. I like being able to actually use the data, not just accept it blindly.
I don't like living in the illusion.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Again, he could be wrong.
I would disbelieve a single auschwitz survivor if there wasn't the documentation to back them up, yes.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
In a way, actually. Or that their illusions of reality were broken by the sudden abrupt exposure with non-filtered reality forced them free for a moment. You see similar reports from other disasters; 9/11, Katrina, and so on. It's not exclusive.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
And he can be right or wrong about this; his position is not one of authority because I know nothing of his knowledge of the subject.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
The media likes to present an image of reality which is simply a simulacra of what reality actually is, in order to present a distorted illusion of reality. This creates a self-referential loop which dizzies the population into a sheep-like state of disorientation.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
...I didn't? Gee, that was easy.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Or, you can anticipate it and work to prevent it in the first place. Besides, that's referring to a /single country/.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
It does if you're trying to stop it from ever happening.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Or he's you know, wrong. Please find me some printed resources.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Do you have proof for this point?
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
A random guy who happens to live in a country is still a shitty source. Please find printed resources which can actually be verified.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
I'm looking through a few powerful research engines and I'm finding a bunch of reports of people taking precautions against looting (Ie; Czech republic mobilizing soldiers), but no actual reports of looting.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
You just conceded to my point.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Are they knowledgeable in all things or just a few things? Are they even applying the tools they're learning from their fields appropriately? Not necessarily.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
There are ignorant people who do all of those things as well.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Which means nothing. You can't beat the bell-curve.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
There are stupid people with highly respected degrees in history, philosophy, the sciences, and literature. I doubt chess is any better.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
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@EvilDarkJackel
Yes they do.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Yes.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
You'd be surprised. The stupidity of human beings is quite impressive at times.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
I could ask tons of people about specific elements in history nine years ago and they'd be drawing blanks.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Which is why it would have been reported. It makes your story more interesting. There is no reason why you would ignore it "because it isn't interesting".
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Or, you know. Wrong. This is why I like printed materials much more than anecdotes from random people.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Just living /in/ a country is even worse. How does that turn someone into a reliable source on all things related to the events in a nation's history?
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
It would definitely make an interesting story /even more interesting/. People reported looting in Katrina, Indonesia, and so on after all, and there was massive destruction in relation to the amount of looting.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Has he offered a response? And is this guy a reliable source? Just being from a country doesn't really mean anything.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Maybe, maybe, maybe. You keep jumping on maybes. Extremely unlikely maybes at that. What would be more interesting than chaos in the streets? And it isn't just one reporter; there are lots of reporters dealing with any subject.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Well, what sort of proof is it?
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
If the media can hype up a situation to boost ratings, they will. If there were looting, they would have zeroed in on it like they zero in on any number of political and/or sports related riots.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
I don't like anecdotes which people can just make up on the fly.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Looting is always reported. It's an extremely sensationalist, eye-grabbing feature. It boosts ratings.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Does it talk about looting?
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
I wasn't excluding anyone. I was stating simple facts of geography and culture. Would we accept the conditions in Peru as being exemplary of the United States? Absolutely not.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
..How do I know this? Because there was no looting reported.
Let me get this straight, you want me to find a report which states expressly there was no looting? That's idiotic. The fact that there aren't reports is enough. Find me one report which states there /was/ looting.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Actually my next door neighbor died of cancer a few years ago.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
Looting is caused by disorder and chaos in a disaster situation. If there is a significant governmental presence which is able to maintain control, there is no looting. If there is not a significant governmental presence which is able to maintain control, there is looting. The Japanese government was able to maintain control after the disasters, partly because the disaster was severe but with the most damage isolated to a few key areas.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
No, it's not racist. It's called Geography. Americans aren't Europeans either. Neither are North Africans. They're Americans and North Africans. Turkey is an Anatolian/Middle Eastern country.
Rioting over football and rioting over a natural disaster are two completely different things. Don't mix the two up.
Caliburnis 10 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel
As stated, I was referring to European countries. Turkey is not really a European country.
Don't listen to the media as much as you are. Why are they emphasizing the nuclear reactors so much when the amount of radiation they're putting out is actually less significant than many disasters in the US, related to Coal plants?
The people giving aid are typically external; there is a vast support network going to the afflicted areas.
Caliburnis 10 months ago