Communism does not have wages. The Soviet Union was a socialist dictatorship ruined by social conservatives and was merely a stage in LENINIST approach towards the final goal of COMMUNISM. communism itself is an ideology that aims to abolish social hierarchy, remove classes, exploitation and the monetary system in return for a decentralized, direct democratic society that holds common ownership of the means of production, sets itself a work quota and has free access to articles of consumption.
Wrong wrong wrong.... please go and study GK Chesterton and distributivism. You confuse the tool with the thief.. It is the thief that needs correcting.
@Spindel01 I agree with you for the most part. However, the Venus Project is based off of much more than just the work of Karl Marx which is why many people get offended when TVP or TZM are called "Marxist" or "communist".
@DonPMitchell Marx's actual "final" idea of Communism has still never been instantiated; instead it was a Leninist form. Also, Marx thought Communism was literally a final stage (after Socialism -- which also still hasn't been used in his model) for society. The Venus Project claims there is no final stage of anything. Also, Marx's view of Communism was extremely vague in comparison to the detail of the Venus Project; Marx thought we would all figure it out on our own once that time came.
@TheAdamDaniel well considering he wrote his ideology almost 200 years ago and if had truly followed it by now it would have been the venus project if not something better simply because his ideas and venus project ideas are very similar
The use of a new idea or discovery relevant to the advancement of the human race, is infinitely more important than the perception of ownership from whom its discovered.
Social progress and human well being is always second to monetary gain. If a problem is profitable, the problem will remain. Abundance, sustainability and efficiency are enemies of profit.
Efficiency, abundance, and sustainability are enemies of our economic structure for they are inverse to the mechanics required to perpetuate consumption.
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This is a rehash of Karl Marx's "Grundrisse", where he discusses automation and surplus value theory. Yeah, let's rename communism something new like Zeitgeist and hope that people don't remember what a soul-crushing, economically stagnant failure communism was.
Communism used money and labor, had social stratification, and elected officials to maintain the communists' traditions. Most importantly, Communism did not eliminate SCARCITY nor did they have a blueprint or the methods for the production of abundance. Machine production rather than labor will dominate the future.
@DoctorNowShow actually those countries that called them selves communists did not follow the theory properly they were just fancy dictatorships the actual creator of the concept of communism Karl Marx wanted sustainability, with no social stratification ie the doctor= to the janitor, and the pay would be equal for everyone per hour of work whether that is going to further urself with university to become a doctor or if u work as a janitor all would get paid equal amount .......
@Spindel01 and the pay is only a way to get whatever u need there are no separate companies in this system only section working towards one thing like one group of people making vaccum cleaners by doing this they can focus on making the best quality and only producing as much as the society needs no more no less ie sustainability, Money in this system is to only be intended as medium of exchange there is no interest or loans as they are pointless in a system where sustainability is the goal ....
@Spindel01 although marx did not have all the problems solved his ideas where noble and well ahead of his time very much similar to what the venus project suggests just with some alterations on various concepts but the basic idea of eveyone being equal and that the free-market competition is bad for us as a society as well as being able to generally predict the rise and crash of every free-market system as they are designed in a flawed manner
@DonPMitchell why not call, something progressive and obvious to many, with a scary word like communism. Did you ever wonderer how all this communist countries adapted so fast to capitalistic methods? What did old regimes rename communism with? Free market? American dream? I guess they just changed label on the factory, and continued with same exploitation.
competition really makes the prices go up but not because they want.. its because they dont have another choise. if they could sell a car for 100 000 $ trust me , they would.
so it still is a corrupt system.
me against u , we against them.. bla bla.. that is for kids.
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u got ur facts wrong. business dont limit supply of something so they can profit more! they actually do the OPPOSITE. profit is incentive to produce more.
every company is trying to sell as much of their product as possible.
If something happened to all the apple trees in the world, and there were only 1,000 apples left on earth, the price for those apples would be astronomical!
If profit is the incentive to produce more, why are products promoted as having "Limited Quantity" or for a "Limited Time Offer"?
There comes a point where producing MORE of something actually becomes less profitable.
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u cant be serious! ok, lets both open a store and u sell 10 or 100 or 1000 widgets or whatever limited number u want from ur bizarre understanding of how business works, and ill sell 10 million widgets and we will see who makes more profit!
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u just made the case for the benefit and efficiency of the free market and contradicted ur own claim!
according to ur example more competition brings down prices and people seeking profit started making 5 billion MORE widgets! thats the way the market is supposed to work and exactly the point i was making!
more widgets DOES NOT mean less profit. more COMPETITION means less profit because it brings down prices. MORE widgets at any price ALWAYS means MORE PROFIT!
It is the simple law of supply and demand. Scarcity sells (think diamonds, gold etc.). If you can convince your buyers that the product you are selling is rare, the market sets the price higher because it is scarce.
But here is the catch: A good does not HAVE to REALLY be scarce when advertised as such, as long as nobody takes the time to verify the supply on their own. This opens the door to supply manipulation for profit, either physically altering the supply or simply deceiving for profit.
Excellent! Money replaced forced chain slavery, allowing the slave owner to get the benefits of others labor without having to take care of the slaves. It's never been about anything but slavery, using symbols and perceived contrived scarcity rather than men with weapons chaining people up to work for the slave owners. Therefore it creates an illusion of freedom while maintaining slavery. Excellent video. congrats!
Good work man :) Good video! ☆☆☆☆☆
Play671 1 month ago
Communism does not have wages. The Soviet Union was a socialist dictatorship ruined by social conservatives and was merely a stage in LENINIST approach towards the final goal of COMMUNISM. communism itself is an ideology that aims to abolish social hierarchy, remove classes, exploitation and the monetary system in return for a decentralized, direct democratic society that holds common ownership of the means of production, sets itself a work quota and has free access to articles of consumption.
PesiCool 4 months ago
Excellent video! Keep up the good work! People have to see solutions.
lightsout9999 1 year ago
Wrong wrong wrong.... please go and study GK Chesterton and distributivism. You confuse the tool with the thief.. It is the thief that needs correcting.
windowtothe 1 year ago
@windowtothe
Intellectual property is a tool that sacrifices the good of mankind for an individual profit.
Technological unemployment is a tool that IS a thief, taking man-hours directly. Explain your “wrong wrong wrong” statement in your own words.
Vexblackheart 1 year ago
When you remove the monetary system, you remove all the "isms".
JanColdwater 1 year ago
@Spindel01 I agree with you for the most part. However, the Venus Project is based off of much more than just the work of Karl Marx which is why many people get offended when TVP or TZM are called "Marxist" or "communist".
TheAdamDaniel 1 year ago
i love the bird :-)
Dinsdale333 1 year ago
Awesome video! Thank you!
cindytg87 1 year ago
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@DonPMitchell Marx's actual "final" idea of Communism has still never been instantiated; instead it was a Leninist form. Also, Marx thought Communism was literally a final stage (after Socialism -- which also still hasn't been used in his model) for society. The Venus Project claims there is no final stage of anything. Also, Marx's view of Communism was extremely vague in comparison to the detail of the Venus Project; Marx thought we would all figure it out on our own once that time came.
TheAdamDaniel 1 year ago
@TheAdamDaniel well considering he wrote his ideology almost 200 years ago and if had truly followed it by now it would have been the venus project if not something better simply because his ideas and venus project ideas are very similar
Spindel01 1 year ago
Dude, your vid is AWESOME - i mean - a 7 years old can get that...isn't that hard, right?
I will facebook kit straight away
:)
FS
FactualSolutions 1 year ago
The use of a new idea or discovery relevant to the advancement of the human race, is infinitely more important than the perception of ownership from whom its discovered.
silversobe 1 year ago
Social progress and human well being is always second to monetary gain. If a problem is profitable, the problem will remain. Abundance, sustainability and efficiency are enemies of profit.
Efficiency, abundance, and sustainability are enemies of our economic structure for they are inverse to the mechanics required to perpetuate consumption.
silversobe 1 year ago
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This is a rehash of Karl Marx's "Grundrisse", where he discusses automation and surplus value theory. Yeah, let's rename communism something new like Zeitgeist and hope that people don't remember what a soul-crushing, economically stagnant failure communism was.
DonPMitchell 1 year ago
Communism used money and labor, had social stratification, and elected officials to maintain the communists' traditions. Most importantly, Communism did not eliminate SCARCITY nor did they have a blueprint or the methods for the production of abundance. Machine production rather than labor will dominate the future.
DoctorNowShow 1 year ago 29
@DoctorNowShow actually those countries that called them selves communists did not follow the theory properly they were just fancy dictatorships the actual creator of the concept of communism Karl Marx wanted sustainability, with no social stratification ie the doctor= to the janitor, and the pay would be equal for everyone per hour of work whether that is going to further urself with university to become a doctor or if u work as a janitor all would get paid equal amount .......
Spindel01 1 year ago
@Spindel01 and the pay is only a way to get whatever u need there are no separate companies in this system only section working towards one thing like one group of people making vaccum cleaners by doing this they can focus on making the best quality and only producing as much as the society needs no more no less ie sustainability, Money in this system is to only be intended as medium of exchange there is no interest or loans as they are pointless in a system where sustainability is the goal ....
Spindel01 1 year ago
@Spindel01 although marx did not have all the problems solved his ideas where noble and well ahead of his time very much similar to what the venus project suggests just with some alterations on various concepts but the basic idea of eveyone being equal and that the free-market competition is bad for us as a society as well as being able to generally predict the rise and crash of every free-market system as they are designed in a flawed manner
Spindel01 1 year ago
Because TVP uses money and labor, oh wait..
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TheAdamDaniel 1 year ago
@DonPMitchell why not call, something progressive and obvious to many, with a scary word like communism. Did you ever wonderer how all this communist countries adapted so fast to capitalistic methods? What did old regimes rename communism with? Free market? American dream? I guess they just changed label on the factory, and continued with same exploitation.
jstg 1 year ago
@DonPMitchell What communism are you talking about?
PesiCool 4 months ago
Love this! Well done.
TZMSocialEvolution 2 years ago
funny how youtube is 100% bilderberger, yet, its the main vehicle for anti bilderberg info :)
but google isnt sleeping, they are trying to fight this with subliminar subversive war.
RARB1977 2 years ago
competition really makes the prices go up but not because they want.. its because they dont have another choise. if they could sell a car for 100 000 $ trust me , they would.
so it still is a corrupt system.
me against u , we against them.. bla bla.. that is for kids.
pakau 2 years ago 2
and yor missing the whole point of zeitgeist movement..
economics its jus 5% of the movement concerns..
the rest is money war conscienscns tecnology etc. etc.
pakau 2 years ago
This is awesome!
whacksteez 2 years ago 4
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u got ur facts wrong. business dont limit supply of something so they can profit more! they actually do the OPPOSITE. profit is incentive to produce more.
every company is trying to sell as much of their product as possible.
u r confusing pricing with profits
kajmobile 2 years ago
Things have more value if there are less of them.
If something happened to all the apple trees in the world, and there were only 1,000 apples left on earth, the price for those apples would be astronomical!
If profit is the incentive to produce more, why are products promoted as having "Limited Quantity" or for a "Limited Time Offer"?
There comes a point where producing MORE of something actually becomes less profitable.
DoctorNowShow 2 years ago 6
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u cant be serious! ok, lets both open a store and u sell 10 or 100 or 1000 widgets or whatever limited number u want from ur bizarre understanding of how business works, and ill sell 10 million widgets and we will see who makes more profit!
kajmobile 2 years ago
Lets use your widget example:
Say you open a store and sell 10 million widgets a year and make a nice profit.
Then, I see what you are doing and open my own widget store. Suddenly there are twice as many widgets around.
To attract customers I sell mine for less.
Say 500 more companies open shop and produce 10 million widgets each, trying to ride the widget craze.
Profit margins shrink to a penny per widget.
More widgets, less profit.
One big store = monopoly
Look up "Price Fixing" and "LG"
DoctorNowShow 2 years ago 2
So, less stores sell widgets because there isn't an acceptable profit to be made.
The final result is that only a few stores make widgets now, driving up the scarcity, limiting abundance, making profits.
DoctorNowShow 2 years ago
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u just made the case for the benefit and efficiency of the free market and contradicted ur own claim!
according to ur example more competition brings down prices and people seeking profit started making 5 billion MORE widgets! thats the way the market is supposed to work and exactly the point i was making!
more widgets DOES NOT mean less profit. more COMPETITION means less profit because it brings down prices. MORE widgets at any price ALWAYS means MORE PROFIT!
kajmobile 2 years ago
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so again u r confusing PRICE with PROFIT. companies always make more profit by selling more widgets regardless of price
if some company dominated a market they may raise prices, but they wouldnt try to sell less widgets!
and if for some crazy reason they did decide to limit the widgets they sell, new companies would enter the market to pick up the slack.
ur claim that the market dont work because companies make more money by selling less not only defies basic economics, it defies common sense
kajmobile 2 years ago
It is the simple law of supply and demand. Scarcity sells (think diamonds, gold etc.). If you can convince your buyers that the product you are selling is rare, the market sets the price higher because it is scarce.
But here is the catch: A good does not HAVE to REALLY be scarce when advertised as such, as long as nobody takes the time to verify the supply on their own. This opens the door to supply manipulation for profit, either physically altering the supply or simply deceiving for profit.
SophistAssassin 2 years ago 4
To put it simply, the profitability of scarcity creates an incentive to manipulate supply to perpetuate scarcity for personal monetary gain.
SophistAssassin 2 years ago 3
GREAT VIDEO
eddieep 2 years ago 4
this is a great video, keep up the good work.
WodeBolder 2 years ago 4
Excellent.
4v4l0n42 2 years ago 4
awsome! this should be shown to kids in all schools! :)
razryan 2 years ago 2
awesome vid, keep up the good work
OSO85016 2 years ago 3
Excellent! Money replaced forced chain slavery, allowing the slave owner to get the benefits of others labor without having to take care of the slaves. It's never been about anything but slavery, using symbols and perceived contrived scarcity rather than men with weapons chaining people up to work for the slave owners. Therefore it creates an illusion of freedom while maintaining slavery. Excellent video. congrats!
Omniunion 2 years ago 3
Very nice
I will be playing this for my 2 young children, it simplifies without over simplifying
thunderpants10 2 years ago 6
Very well done and quite captivating, great for kids :)
siliconstate 2 years ago 6
Very simple and very informative, 5 stars
TruthWorld 2 years ago 10
two thumbs way up! :P
paragonflux 2 years ago 5
Great job Doc! ;)
neagumarc 2 years ago 4
boo yeah dr now. boo yeah
eddiezmars 2 years ago 5
Great Job!
charlionfire 2 years ago 5
very well done. perhaps a future installment should explore how money is created in the fractional reserve system of banking.
CorvidTabard 2 years ago 13
great vid
paradigm667 2 years ago 6
Yup great video.
stp52x 2 years ago 6
You guys are too kind to the good doctor!
DoctorNowShow 2 years ago
So cute! And totally accurate too :P
Awesome vid - thank you ^__^ (hugs)
Capulator8 2 years ago 5
Awesome video! Very well made :D
angeloz318 2 years ago 3