Added: 4 years ago
From: dfarmer1584
Views: 4,395
Sort by time | Sort by thread (beta)

Link to this comment:

Share to:

All Comments (174)

Sign In or Sign Up now to post a comment!
  • Truly this woman does the work of Satan and is a child of darkness. I know what they look like and they look just like her. You must listen carefully. You will here her hide behind "morals". I suppose continually downing people is "moral". To be a true child of God, you can hardly finish a sentence without eluding to Love and Tolerance. She is part of the dividing power of Satan and she will burn in everlasting flames forever, and soon.........you heard it here first.

  • When this woman speaks, I want to rip my face off and eat it. What an idiot.

  • I would never agree to be interviewed by this woman. Its clear that she hates the atheist community and everything about it. She makes points that make no sense and have no depth and will bark them at you, talking over top of people, self rightous, self centered, narrow minded, shallow, condensending, she is crazy and irrational in every way. This woman makes my skin crawl.

  • Something that listeners should keep in mind about this interview is that Laura Ingraham muted most of my responses and comments. I didn't know that would happen ahead of time but it threw me off as I never really knew when I was coming through. I said almost twice as much as what you heard.

  • @RationalResponse thats crazy, you can tell how organizations like that try and cover up information. just like telling their followers that there is no transitional fossils.

  • I think laura ingraham is really a man...

  • Comment removed

  • laura ingraham is a pro-war whore!

  • Stupid conversation.

  • Laura Ingram is a tool. She is the most ignorant and bigoted perosn I have ever heard. She needs to read her Bible. She obviously hasn't.

  • Fools are all of you to deny any existance of a greater beign that created the universe and enverything in it. It's great to party with no rules! Until you wake up in jail or still sleeping in the morgue!

  • lmao at 3:54 through 3:58

  • Brian handled this very coolly. I don't think Laura should've treated him the way she did, when he really wasn't giving her the motives to do so; but maybe she was very upset with what he was doing with the blasphemy challenge...

    While I don't agree with him, I respect how he handled this...although that wasn't what happened when Todd Friel interviewed him lol Perhaps because Laura's a woman, he went easier on her. If that's the case, good on him.

  • Thank God atheists can out debate the worst theists among us.

    Let's step into the domain of true theology....

  • what a weird picture...

  • Anyone who feels the need to upload an interview and devote countless hours to adding his own captions to it in order to make one side appear as the winner shows two things: (1)The side that you want to argue in favor of clearly didn't come off well in the interview, otherwise you could just let the interview speak for itself, (2) The person uploading this video clearly has too much time on his lands. Go find a girlfriend, or something. There are more fruitful things you could be doing.

  • The truth about Brian Sapient: His real name is Brian Cutler. He never went to college and previously lived off of his girlfriend's mother. How did he thank her? By getting his girlfriend pregnant! At the time, he was working as a cell phone salesman. Now he is unemployed and living off of his girlfriend Kelly O'Connor, who has three kids from a previous relationship and formerly worked as a stripper at a bar called "Bada-Bing". Kelly went to the U of Scranton and never graduated.

  • What you write about Sapient may be completely true; and it is completely irrelevant. He could be a large pile of pure white trash--it matters not. True or not, if you write this in an effort to discredit Sapient you fail. Look up ad hominem (google it). The truth value of Sapient's arguments are not dependent on his personal history.

    If you just want to say that Sapient is a fairly typical Jersey kid, then fine. But if you think you are discrediting the rational world-view, you're an idiot

  • "What you write about Sapient may be completely true"

    No "maybe" about it. It's all in Radar Magazine and in the court records.

  • A while ago I posed a question in the comments section of the video the RRS uploaded referring to theists having mental disorders. My question was if one or more of Kelly's kids decided to believe in God, would she take them to see a psychologist.

  • I asked this question several times and she never answered. At that time it seemed she only commented to those who made comments about her tits. I don't think she can handle my question.

    I think Kelly and her gang are nothing more than attention whores. Have you seen the video where they were offering autographed copies of some magazine?

  • @dfarmer1584 Brian's history doesn't discredit him, it's his arguments...

  • @dfarmer1584 Your arguments are very true, however here are some facts about what dancinbear posted:

    - I never lived off a girlfriends mother.

    - I didn't thank this imaginary girlfriend with a baby

    - I did complete some college coursework

    - working 100 hours per week is not unemployed

    - I supported Kelly for quite a while

    In Reason,

    Brian Sapient

  • @dfarmer1584 Absolutely True!

  • But she has spectacular breasts! And she's 1,000 times smarter than you.

    Cry.

  • "And she's 1,000 times smarter than you"

    That's inconsistent with the following facts:

    (1) She never graduated college.

    (2) She is with Brian Sapient, who, instead of getting a job and paying child support, would rather stay unemployed and run a website that generates no profit whatsoever.

  • Agreed.

  • Actually I may have mistakenly replied to your comment when I was trying to reply to someone else. Sorry.

  • Wow, she really sucked, I thought as an individual known for her commentary would have put up a better fight.

  • She couldn't argue her way out of a paper bag. She's pathetic.

  • I believe this is the way Ingraham treats every person she disagrees with.

  • Sorry laura Jesus is not God. The is only one God. Jesus is the son of God like many others. He was one with the Father but that meant he walked in step with God. They were of one mind.

  • The guy the added the writing had no basis for what he wrote. He put words in Ingrahams mouth. Frankly, the atheist and Ingraham have screwed up the truth. They are reacting to religion not the bible. The Bible does not translate into english well. Its interpretation by people who take it on face value is flawed.

  • heh, your whole video is Ad Hominem -_-

  • Oh so this must be the idiot who started the blasphemy challenge. Shook up the atheist community so now they're like "i don't want to deny god because... i don't know if he exists"(pretty smart)

  • Brian Sapient is a 30 year old living off his parents.  Too funny.

  • Pariah1982. You obviously didn't pay attention. She isn't living off his parents. Is that your argument for God, by the way?

  • typical theist actions... attacking someone of different idealogies.

  • Thanks! I would have enjoyed with you and your pals.

    Hmmmm...I think I'll pop a top off one right now! Here's to free-thought, and here's to you *ahhhh*

  • The bs is just pouring out of this woman; Please, think of the janitor and close your mouth Ingram.

    (You'll have to remove your blindfold first)

  • Wow, Ingram is a complete idiot and cunt.

  • Silly xitans. It's a dangerous mix of stupidity and fanaticsm that leaves them with the solid belief that the bible is first and last source of wisdom on the planet, that they propogated the species from two people, etc, etc. As if no other cultures or religious beliefs exist or existed before xtianity.

  • Since we must only rely on evidence for any possible belief we are allowed to have. What evidence be it archeological, historical, or biological do we have that leads us to believe that morality existed before any form of religion. Or is this a nongrounded faith based tool used to deceive? Would this mean that he's being hypocritical. I thought that atheists were incapable of hypocrisy. Please forgive my spelling and grammar. I am a lowly, poor, and dumb creationist who has a job.

  • The inconsistancy of moral views expressed in the bible, is good evidence that we (humanity) reasons our own morality - and not from a book.

    I'm glad you have a job - nothing too intellectually testing I trust??!!

  • Please allow me to rephrase your argument.

    A certain book exists. I have some knowledge of this book. I find inconsistency in this book as it petains to morality. I conclude that morallity has evolved by natural causes before the book OR any other book of said type was written.

    If I or any other christian used such reasoning we would be accused of irrationality.

    I must be mistaken. I sincerely thought that atheists only accepted empirical evidence as proof.

  • No need to put your own strawman slant on what I said - it was clear enough the first time.

    If the bible was never written morality would exist it is the product of intellect, reason and social necessity.

    The bible and it's believers have always hampered the progress of that morality and sense of justice in humanity.

    I would have thought the proof was empirical - even to a christian!

  • Since you asked though, the inconsistancy I mentioned does eliminate the bible as a feasable source of any moral code - If it can't agree within itself it can hardly have any validity elsewhere.

    Also, the fact that most of our laws are far superior, and contradict the teachings of the bible, regarding slavery, torture, racism, homophobia,paedophilia etc, should also eliminate it as a moral guide.

    Empirical enough for you? I have more.....

  • You could perhaps look at other living species of ape on the planet to see how they function with a moral code of their own. Morality is innate in us as well and requires no supernatural explanation.

    And dont apologise for your poor convoluted mess of words, if you cant write straightforeward prose, dont write at all.

  • RRS ftw. she gets so pwned by Sapient

  • Awesome, awesome videos. I love how both you, and Brian rip apart that crazy bitch.

  • the richest entity on earth = the vatican. still people starve. this "chick" makes no good arguments. who could possibly close their mind to ALL evidence except the bible?then use compassion as evidence of ?jesus? or the validity of it? she needs to do womans work as defined in the bible, and use that mouth for what an athiest really wants from her. slob the knob!

  • She's a right wing reactionary water carrier for all right wing fanatics. She is not bright but that never stops them from spreading their propaganda. I do believe in God but I am against the right wingers on EVERYTHING! They are hypocrites and nobody should ever listen to them. They are evil liars.

  • not like Michael Moore or Al Gore hey? paragons of honesty.

    Against the right wingers on everything? really? like individual responsibility and not trying to build a welfare state?

  • If Jesus did lie, kill etc.. Than how would he be any different than men? If He was the same and Brian said we need eachother why is he so against Jesus?  Truth be told Laura could stand to be A LOT LESS of a know it all. I believe and it's a turn off just listening to this.

  • its very clear you have no idea what is fantasy. what did he say that didn't make sense to you?

  • The funny thing is, is that most atheists have read the Bible and probably know more about it than most christians, The Bible is full of hatred and bigotry.

  • "God did sit down with non believers you IDIOT"

    Does your conscience allow you to speak like this to people? John15:12

  • God sat down because the bible says? Is there any other proof besides the bible? It's so funny to watch these wack jobs try to argue a point with a shred of eveidence other than a story book.

  • Arguing from a book.... wack job? Truth be told MANY people argue from a book or from what others have said. After all who doesn't believe to some extent something they were told? Unfortunately some people could use a filter change on their thinkers.

  • Though I'm an agnostic, I like Laura (probably because she's a Republican-like me!- AND a troublemaker-like me!). She's one tough bitch. I like tough broads.

  • If by touch you mean "stupid" and by bitch you mean "affront to all that is good in the world" then yes.

  • *tough*

  • TAA, you know she's not stupid, and, yes, she is a "bitch". My definition of bitch: anyone who likes to be a pain in the ass. I choose to use the term without regard to gender. In this sense, YOU'RE a bitch, and so am I.

  • This guy is a prat. He needs to go live in india or china for him to see the real life examples of what he is babbling about. There are huge differences between life in the west (christian influence) and east (non christian influence).

  • An atheist is a person who does not follow a theistic belief system.

    An agnostic is a person who does not conclude anything without reason.

    This woman is trashy.

  • your right about that but where is the connection between what that deputy pres. said and what missionaries teach i.e., abstinence until marriage.

  • Im a fucking tool and cunt huh. I guess my point has been proved that anti theists treat other people like crap. You can't debate fundamentalists because your unable to debate for 5 seconds with insulting someone.

  • lol they're account closed. Intelligence prevails!

  • its all in how you present it. People like Sapient have this smart-ass attitude. Even if hell isn't real you can't tell me that its not good for people to have faith in something. "They're(missionaries) spreading aids in Africa" I know several Aricans who would be in his face big time for saying that. He just sounds like the angsty know it all teenager who never smiles and refuses to sing or talk to anyone at my church.

  • I'm sorry, but you're a fucking tool. There, I've said it. Since it's impossible to debate fundamentalists, we might as well just call them what they are. You, sir, are a fucking cunt.

  • His argument is that the damage caused by the spread of misinformation (condoms don't stop aids) is much worse than any good the christians may have done in africa. and isn't it a little judgemental and condescending to assume what is going through one of those teenagers minds while at church? Maybe they're a bit taken aback by how full on everyone is and are feeling shy, or maybe are having doubts of the authenticity of the church. Their age does not void them of an opinion.

  • I would have to say teaching Abstinence or no sex until marriage is just as important as handing out truckloads of condoms in Africa. And hey I gurantee you there are people who use the ol excuse of "it dosen't feel the same" I can see the Cathloic church being against condoms but the other denominations generally don't have a problem with them. Also its pretty easy to tell whether a teen is just shy and reserved or just being a punk

  • I was just saying his argument was not unfounded. I'm sure some people may use that excuse..but if we have missionaries, even a fraction of the total missionaries spreading the lies about the effectiveness of condoms, problems do arise. In South Africa the deputy president had sex with a HIV positive prostitute and said on national tv that he didn't get aids because he had a shower. It's this kind of misinformation that's running rampant that creates such a big problem.

  • I have heard of here, but never knew what she looked like. If that is her in the video, she is pretty damn hot. Dumb as a brick of course, but hot.

  • Just listen to Laura Ingram's tone and how defensive she often gets as a result of that.

  • I've said this many a places before and I'll say it again.

    Religion, how the whole concept of religion works for the brain and where it came from, it is not "faith", but a response to fear dut to the fact that we are finite beings with knowledge of our eventual demise. That's why a person of religious faith cannot stand to have it questioned, because it forces them to deal with their own irritationality and fear, which results in them getting defensive instead of reacting calmly.

  • Exactly right!

  • I've said this many a places before and I'll say it again.

    Religion, how the whole concept of religion works for the brain and where it came from, it is not "faith", but a response to fear dut to the fact that we are finite beings with knowledge of our eventual demise. That's why a person of religious faith cannot stand to have it questioned, because it forces them to deal with their own irritationality and fear, which results in them getting defensive instead of reacting calmly.

  • thats a woman ?? that voice is much more transsexual sounding to Me ...

  • well so far mr. sapient has won this discussion.

  • All the rules in Exodus except for the 10 commandments are not from God. Those rules are Jewish Law. God's law are the 10 commandments.

  • But the Bible DOES explain the origin of life. It's all the rebels who refuse to see the truth. For shame, for shame!

  • "But the Bible DOES explain the origin of life."

    OK, I'll bite. HOW did god create life?

  • Chew on this! God created man out of the dust of the earth just as HIS Word says He did.

    You don't buy that? Your problem!

  • That has to be a joke.

  • Fraid not!

    Come judgement day, you'll wish it was.

  • god created me out of dust? that doesn't explain anything.

  • evolution CANNOT explain the orgin of life, just how it develops

  • Nor is it supposed to. It explains how life developed to where it is now.

  • "evolution CANNOT explain the orgin of life, just how it develops"

    evolution DOES NOT TRY to explain the origin of life, just how it develops

  • i realize this, it just seems like everyone thinks it proves that there is no God. I was merely clarifying the fact that evolution cannot and does not intend to explain the orgins of life

  • The only people that think that evolution would prove that there is no god is moronic creationists.

  • exactly, same thing with moronic darwinists. It's an unfortunate case on both sides of the issue.

  • There are almost 0 moronic darwinists, I have never met one and have only ever seen one on the internet.

  • you havent met very many have you then?

  • Oh I have met many people who accept evolution and none of them have ever made the claim that evolution disproves god.

  • oh also, i still believe in evolution, i just dont think life starts up on its own with out a Cause

  • Neither do I, I am convinced that life starts with natural causes.

  • and whats more natural than God?

  • Everything, seeing as god is SUPERnatural.

  • mancman13:

    "evolution CANNOT explain the orgin of life, just how it develops"

    evolution DOES NOT TRY to explain the origin of life, just how it develops

    yes it does

    and

    yes it does

    untill you read up on the subject.. stop helping

  • "lution DOES NOT TRY to explain the origin of life, just how it develops

    yes it does"

    No, it really doesn't. Evolution takes a hold only after self replicating systems exist and does not say how those systems came into existence. If you don't believe me, ask Michael Shermer, Charles Darwin, Ken Miller, Eugenie Scott, Richard Dawkins, and, well, anyone.

    "untill you read up on the subject.. stop helping"

    Until you read up on the subject, stop being condescending.

  • So basically, if his family decides to stop giving him funds for his cause, he'll be broke and be forced to go work in the real world. How shameful, that's what you have to do if a guy like Sapient wants to truly be successful.

  • lets examine two posibillities 1 if god exists reson logic every material thing is evidence of his existence.  but if god does not exist then it is all evidence against his existence. how do you explaine that.

  • I think Mortimer J Adler came to the same conclusion (How to think about God,Truth in Religion)but said it takes an act of faith to assign goodness to God, logic can only take you so far.

  • i agrea logic can only take you so far , but then there is evidence from experiment, and of course the idea that faith in some way can take you further, well lets face it has no evidential basis in logic or anything else. but thank you for your measured and inteligent responce.

  • Reason, logic, brain, evolution, emotion, love, irrationality, then delusion. Or you can know that irrationality and delusion is the child's mind filling in the holes and then grow.

  • "theistic thought" LOL. Its a contradiction of terms.

  • I can't believe that in the 21st century the majority of this country still believes in god. If people need to believe in ghosts in order to have moral values, this country is completely fucked

  • I second that. It's amazing what you can do with a little fear.

    By the way, I think we can all agree that round one definitely goes to Sapient. Laura got OWNED.

  • How old are you?

  • I had morals when I was an atheist, you don't have to believe in God to have morals.

  • i think you make a very necesary point. the choices are not realy about what you believe but weather judgements are made on the basis of evidence or dogma. and the theistic position comends dogma as a presedent.

  • Moher Teresa had great doubts about god. When she doubted god what did she tell herself to continue on with her work?

  • MessianicJew2000 is a hate group? How so?

  • Brian "Sapient" has poor grammar skills. It is so funny to hear someone who takes on the alias "sapient", getting confused by the proper use of "me/I" and "him/he". LOL!

  • Just fuck off ass munch. How's my grammar punk?

    BTW: You're "god" is a fantasy and you are a brainwashed moron. How do you like me now bitch?

  • She's the Irv Rubin of hate radio.

  • Laura Ingram is so stupid that I'm surprised she can even speak.

  • Skunks don't spray each other or in their nests. Moral codes and ethics come from the same place skunks get their rules of engagement=evolution. To say there is intellegence behind evolution, is like saying there is intention behind a hurricane. I don't think so.

  • Very nice example. ;)

  • Laura is totally full of shit!

  • Thanks for posting this with comments enabled...unlike other people. They must have known who this would swing. She really did reveal her true colours. How unprofessional is it to have a guest on YOUR show and spend the entire time either calling them names or trying to embarrass them. Sorry Laura but if there IS a place you go after you die for being a moral person...you ain't getting in sugar.

  • Good fucking grief. These frothing insane cultists. Amazing.

  • I totally agree, NSOHippy.

  • "I totally agree, NSOHippy."

    What the Hell is it that motivates a large percentage of the human animal to adopt beliefs in what they damn well KNOW are absolutely false? And not only false by FATAL to humanity's health and well being? Science feeds these people, clothes them, gives them FOX "News" and other entertainments. Some 2% of humans produce all the food -- thanks to science!

  • RAmen!

    I often look around the world, at all the sheeple baaa-ing to their god, and feel like I am a bit character in a bizarre novel; one of the few who sees reality--ala Winston Smith, or Neo. How can the rest not see it?!? The older I get, and the closer I examine our civilization, the more bizarre it appears.

  • Even though I study and consider many neuro-psycho-social-historical etc theories about the roots of theism, and think, finally, I am beginning to understand why humanity is the way it is, I still cannot shake the growing feeling of bizarreness.

  • Its my opinion, there are people who believe that they must achieve a greater goal than their present existance as a mortal being. The siren's call of immortality has been heard and believed by followers of many different kinds of religions all throughout history, right up to the present. Basically, these people have sought, or are seeking, a guarantee that there's more to come after death, and its going to be more fun than the county fair for those who believe it to be so.

  • I supposed I could have put it more succinctly by saying these folks are crossing their fingers that their wager pays off and they win the immortality lottery. : )

  • think you nailed it right on the head there phenixwriter.the main thing is that hope of "salvation and immortality in heaven". science and reason scares these people because they can't live without thier crutch it seems..........

  • I honestly didn't see how Brian was owned as christians are saying! all i see is ignorance and arrogance from Ingram. she sounds to me like a female bill oreilly .

  • I agree, but I'm thinking Ann Coulter.

  • oh yeah! Ann coulter, that's right. how did i miss that! :)

  • Man... If you want to have some fun, read the last half of Coulter's "Godless" and her "masterful debunking of evolution." Normally I lean center-right libertarian, but that book made me sick...

  • I borrowed that book from the library, and I tried hard to read it, but I could not get past the first couple of chapters. It was literally nauseating--completely incoherent as far as clear lines of reasoning. It was just baseless attack followed by outrageous exaggeration, and repeat. I couldn't take it. BUT if I had noticed that she "debunked" evolution (lol) I would have read that chapter first! I think I'll go check it out again, just for that.

    Thank for the tip.

  • Oh yes. Half the book is dedicated to "destroying Darwinism." If you didn't like the first few chapters, you might want to keep a bucket at the ready.

    In her defense, Ann Coulter plays the sale role that Sapient has chosen to play because it sells to her base and it gets her attention from the media when she says something radical or idiotic.

  • OH I see! You too are a Fucktard! That explains you other comment.

    You see how all of your credibility vanishes when you deny obvious fucking truths?

    You total fucking moron! Piss off.

  • Wow! Your level of intelligence in this comment is unseen. How do you even know what evolution means. This is NOT how you converse or debate with someone, but I have a feeling you're as radical and naive as Mr. Sapient is, and as foolish too.

  • Don't fucking play Holier-than-thou with me you little fucking maggot. You bigoted piece of shit. You have the balls to come here, TO ME, with your atheist hating trash, and then you have the unmitigated audacity to play your false righteous card. Please FUCK OFF.

    [...]

  • [...]

    You'd try to play that card as you tied me and my brethren to the stake if you could, ass hole. You can't shit on us AND then expect politeness! If you don't like the heat here, simply fuck the fuck off. I didn't ask you to come here and insult us all. You chose to come. You get what you deserve.

  • Charles Darwin got a LOT of things right, and he got some wrong. That was one of the wrong things. We don't hold Darwin up as an all-knowning, all-seeing Gawd who is perfect and unerring. What he got right put us on the right track to refine Evolutionary theory.

  • OK, so let me get this straight.

    The things that Darwin found that are in SUPPORT of your case are right, the things he found that DISPROVE your case are wrong. That's really convenient for you, now isn't it? It's a good thing that people who actually make an impact in this world and affect people's lives don't buy that nonsense.

  • You are wrong on all count FTEric. First, you need to take one class, JUST ONE INTRO CLASS, in any field of science. There, on either day one or two, you will be exposed to the scientific method--the most powerful tool for learning ever developed by humankind. At the foundation of the method there rests an error correcting mechanism upon which all further developments are built. This allows for error to exist and subsequently be identified and removed.

  • No such error correction exists in your theology. Therefore, you become yoked to bad ideas like YEC. You cannot grow when new information becomes available. You must deny obvious truths in order to pretend that your theology is sound. IT IS NOT. And that is obvious to all the world except for you and your fellow cult members.

  • Why are errors in evolutionary theory left in science text books if science is so concerned with truth? How many peppered moths do you glue to a tree before you publish the findings of 7,000 year old T-Rex bones found in Colorado and talk about the reversed wombat marsupial pouch? How about 10 to the 65th power?

  • Finally, your last sentence is beyond laughable. You would most likely never have existed without the powers of the scientific method. We would certainly not be communicating via world-wide high-speed Internet connections without the Scientific method. [...]

  • [...] You are free to delude yourself into thinking that YECists do good for humanity; but, in reality, only the exact opposite is true. YECists only work to retard human potential. They are tumors on a civilization struggling for enlightenment. You owe everything to those you despise, but you will never see that.

  • Nothing you can point to, not ONE THING, in Darwin's writings disproves the very backbone of the entire science of Modern Biology today. Einstein was wrong on a few things, so I guess that disproves gravity, huh?

  • Missionaries doing a horrible injustice? Spreading AIDS??!???!?? This guy is a friggin nutcase. Jesus lied? Where does this guy get his information? Mother Theresa was NOT an unbeliever in her life. She fought with depression and felt that God's Spirit wasn't over her for much of her life, but she was compelled to carry on doing what she felt GOD called her to do ONLY because she had faith in Him.

    Dude, get a clue before you open your mouth.

  • Yes. Preaching abstinence only along with the "evils of condom use" IS contributing to the spread of A.I.D.S. They would do less harm simply STAYING HOME! So why do they go? They go to spread a mind virus. The one that controls them and YOU.

    Mother Theresa saw the TRUTH; however, she was much too vested in the evil trappings of Christianity to declare it openly. She miserably carried on, CAUSING her great anguish. YES! The loving church!

  • WOW! A fucktard evolution denier admonishes ME to "get a clue."

    That is fantastic.

    Where do you find your clues?

  • Where did you get ANYTHING that states I deny evolution? Misinformed again. I do believe in evolution. If nearly impossible to look at some species of animals and think otherwise. It's a matter of macro versus micro, and I assure you that one of them is a foolish notion. As if the human body and all of it's complexities and intricacies could just happen?

  • Clearly you don't know the first thing about evolution. Please, just take one simple introductory biology or Phys. Anth. class.

    And don't LIE, and try to claim that you have. That would be a sin by your faith, and besides, most everyone here would instantly know your lying.

    If you've never learned more than algebra, you can't go into a room of mathematicians, or even math majors, and PRETEND to know calculus. That is very similar to what you're trying to do here.

  • Eric, In your defense, Brian is a self-professed radical and says things that are MEANT to get your dander up. But it's all true. Missionaries have been denying people assistance if they don't convert for CENTURIES.

  • ANY missionary that treats people in such a way is NOT a true believer in the God I serve, I assure you. I know there are many Catholic missionaries, and others as well, that go out and have selfish motives and ambitions that compel them to do things that are not in line with what my faith would call them to do. It's a disgrace and tragic, but they are not the standard. I fear for their souls.

  • Look up the "No True Scotsman Fallacy."

    If you do so, FT Eric, and then do not feel embarrassed by your last comment, then you have no shame.

  • Maybe you think they are not true believers, but in all honesty, this is nothing new. Christianity has, for CENTURIES been doing things like this.

  • what's your opinion of jerry falwell and pat robertson?

  • So, they are guilty of hypocrisy. Why would an atheist care about the missionaries or the people they are not helping? Shouldn't they be more concerned about spreading their genes? Why be so concerned with disproving God and start naturally selecting people to breed with?

  • well ussick i'd say since atheists are generally moral and upstanding people they could be annoyed at those who claim to help but because of thier "religious beliefs" can do more harm than good. that's my opinion anyway.

  • What is the moral authority for an atheists? Themselves? Whose standards do you judge Christians by? The Bible says all men have sinned. Personally I have broken all ten commandments. Am I still moral and upstanding? If I am then I don't need to change. If I am not then what does Atheism propose that I do about it? Deny it?