@mitchicus Good point, good point. He did say something along those lines. I don't usually believe in coincidences, but I suppose this one's plausible.
BTW i'm a ron paul hopeful . But i realize he wont be allowed to win, the powers at be are agent the public. And they are 10000x more powerful than you. Sure you can pull a lawsuit, and wrangle in court for 3 years. But these crooks will rig the elections, until the the masse catches on...only then will it stop....if ever.
No one tampers with election results. Why should they? The wrong people always win every election, because all candidates are prequalified by the Khazarian Zionists (fake Jewish illuminati banksters who hijacked our world and minds). Either way elections go, we lose and thee banksters win.
We've never had a real democracy on earth. Democracy is government designed to define and fulfill the true will of the People. Our will has never been defined or expressed. It's always been maligned and repressed. What we have that we mistakenly call democracy makes a mockery of the very concept of democracy. So, let's call it DEMOCKERY! We have only one system of democracy at MajorityVoice. Use it or lose it.
If computers are allowed to run everything then the wrong people will be allowed to do a "lot" of things that affect us! Maybe we don't need "partisan parties" in power to make decisions, we have enough rules and laws ..maybe if an issue absolutely needed to be voted on .. we could do it ourselves ..like we are doing now
25,000 views as of this, February 17, 2012. This country deserves exactly what we get. I say we should bring each and every one of our soldiers home right this minute, as it is obvious they are dying around the world for a population that could care less about the sanctity of their country.
We are a pathetic bunch of self centered lazy cowards who don't deserve their protection.
I wish the liberals who exposed this were as worried about all the thousands if not millions of fraudulent registered voters put forth by ACORN and other democratic front organizations!
Eh. The only reason this happened in the first place is beause people are shockingly stupid. You can get rid of Diebold but another similar company or voter fraud strategy will pop up the next week, because the majority of americans are simply not intelligent enough to recognize deception.
Why am I visualizing a Trojan horse? Are we just going to ignore this truth now that it is known. Please share the heck out of this video with your friends, family, co-workers.
Diebold are criminals, and should be in prison along with the GOP behind some of this voter fraud. They are perpetrating fraud against Ron Paul right now, and they know they are. The mass media is also aiding them in it.
Good to see Ron Paul supporters all over the web and all over the critical issues. How come you don't get Romney, Perry or Gingrich supporters on the "internets"? LOL.
But anyway, from a left-wing (usually) Brit - Ron Paul can really unite intelligent people of all political leanings just because he really can see the big picture and the trouble America is getting itself into with corrupt legislation and dishonest interests. Respect to you guys - there are many of us overseas who are with you.
@GotScout Did you watch the part where they were printing the certification tapes and then changing the results in-house? This video deals with more than one type of corruption.
this is kind of scary... but why don't we just take the extra time and go back to paper votes? So the media won't be able to tell you who one for a few days... at least we'll have our democracy in check... who's with me in demanding paper votes?
My dear people, we must write-in Ron Paul regardless if his name is on a computer screen or other electronic system. We must write in his name, video record us submitting it and then submit the video evidence to an open wiki where the entire public can count each vote and see video evidence of each vote. The technology to do this is simple and it already exists.
As an Ohio citizen and an American citizen (for now), I am ashamed to even watch this. This is why I have and never will vote. I can't believe people in this country still go for those rah rah freedom and liberty in America speeches. Its all bullshit. And as for the comments about Ron Paul being a racist, do you think he would be the first racist president in this country? I know some people from New Orleans who would tell you their honest opinion on that. BTW I don't believe Paul is racist.
Voting Fraud isn't the exception, it's the political process. The United States of America is not a democracy, it is every bit the vision of George Orwell.
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Ron Paul is not winjning ANY state because only MORONS will cast a vote for a racist nutjob who believes that there should be ZERO LAWS and ZERO REGULATIONS.
@Error934 what needs to happen is a small movement of reporters to look into matters for every county or so and see if we can get them to look into this. A movement like that would be amazing, but difficult.
iv always asked this when it came to votes. isnt it possible someone can change the votes and you wouldnt even know it? it was only a matter of time til this movie came out. Now Im putting some bets that this Election will repeat it self and that the people will not be so naive that their democratic rights are being stripped off. I would like to see how the 1% handles the uproar and anger they have given to the people not just in this nation but around the world.
@faller006 Which link? There was nothing there. I have watched this video. Hacking Democracy. Did you mean some other as well? Now they are busy rigging Nevada.
@dolittleskippy Ron Paul - Fraud Victim in 2012 Watch the video with this exact title and it clearly explains the iowa poll was actually RIGGED!!! i'd post the link but whenever i try to link to that video youtube says that there was an error produced (i know creepy).
Who is Fred Silverman??? Something must be done; Die-Bold investors check out WHO makes the money alone from the sale of these machines + bet also Dems + Repubs??? Check it out I have heard that X-Presidents + X-Vice Presidents are some top 'owners of this Equipment' a good angle to look into; I knew this was going on just did not know what method used because I am not PC skilled. Thanks to those that have shared this information with us; may our towns+ (Hey Ohio Wake the F____K up!) RIP Andy5*+
Do you think going back to a paper ballet would make a difference?? Hell no because these Crooked beings would find someway of paying off someone in a voting district to pitch votes away ONLY take them home + burn them. Get rid of the skunk; for if not their stench will still linger + cause grief. A lier-is always a lier. This was a powerful vid + better make people awaken. What a hoot?? These people know that something is wrong; or they would not have covered up with false info;not Originals.
@electroluxia which is actually a poor choice of words since Ron Paul promotes the rights of the individual, and corporate/rich-loving then I want no part. We need to open up real discussion with each other and stop going with what we see on the news and other forms of biased media. Look at the real issues and make it a point to research the theory driving them. I don't think you are stupid, I think you are just misinformed. I hope what I have said will help you understand. Thanks.
@tbergen1 Healthcare is a Right in Europe and England and they’re doing just fine. So it’s okay for someone to die because they can’t pay for an expensive operation, in your view. Perhaps if Karma delivered you a hefty case of brain cancer you’d change your tune. In May 2007, Paul voted NO on criminalizing oil cartels like OPEC. In April 2009, Paul voted NO on enforcing against anti-gay hate crimes. You are worse than misinformed. You are ignorant about Ron Paul.
@electroluxia I don't care if healthcare is a right in Europe and England. You assume just because there wouldn't be universal healthcare that they would let people die. Paul wants the Fed out of healthcare. He said the states can do what ever they want about mandates. I don't know what you don't understand about that. If karma delivered me brain cancer I would pay for my treatment. You call me ignorant about Ron Paul after you reiterated a point I already explained by...
@tbergen1 You conveniently sidestep the broader issue. What if someone had brain cancer and couldn’t pay for it? Under your misguided, blind sheep acceptance of Ron Paul’s inhumane views, that person *would* die. And you condone that. That is disgusting. Healthcare is a right in the Civilized World--England, Europe, Canada, etc.--a compassionate, humane world the United States does not participate.
@dolittleskippy@dolittleskippy Look at Canada, England and Europe...all huge land masses with millions/billions of people. They have an awesome healthcare system that works and, again, everyone is covered by healthcare. America is backwards on such issues because of corporate profiteering and those who refuse to see it.
@muslimgiga Please, see FACT CHECK: Ron Paul Personally Defended Racist Newsletters on Think Progress. YouTube does not allow pasting links in Comments anymore. You could also do this research, yourself.
@muslimgiga Please, see FACT CHECK: Ron Paul Personally Defended Racist Newsletters on Think Progress. YouTube does not allow pasting links in Comments anymore. You could also do this research, yourself.
@electroluxia I am SICK of hearing about Ron Paul being racist. GET OVER IT! WATCH "The compassion of Dr Ron Paul" and let's see you defend that stupid argument. While you are at it watch "Busted Ron Paul's Racist Rant caught on Tape" Problem is nobody has anything real to bitch about with Ron Paul. Who do you want to run this place into the ground? Romney? Gingrich? Sanctomonious? Or Oh bombya? All of them are elitists!
@dolittleskippy I don’t need to get over Ron Paul being racist. He IS racist, and the facts and records document it. He even admitted to writing and authorizing those racist letters to a radio interviewer when the interviewer cornered him. It doesn’t matter that you're sick of hearing it. You will never stop hearing it. It’s the truth and it’s out there. You denying the facts are not going to make them go away.
@electroluxia I KNOW he's not racist and I don't really care if he is or not. If you won't be bothered to watch the videos I put in the comment then there is no talking you into doing so. Some people just look for shit to bitch about. How about Gingrich saying black kids should have to be janitors to learn work ethics? How about Perry having a ranch called niggerhead? Why aren't you harping on that? Must be a welfare lover.
@dolittleskippy Really think he's against gays? Watch "Ron Paul on Homosexuality" and get back to me on that. Maybe you will actually watch stuff. Narrowminded electro won't
@dolittleskippy The Ben Swann videos really are inconclusive. Look up, Paul Tells Radio Caller: I Wrote a ‘Certain Portion’ of Controversial Newsletters, on The Blaze. First, Ron Paul comes out and says he had NOTHING to do with those controversial articles. Then he comes out and admits he wrote a ‘certain portion’ of those articles. He was caught lying to save his ass. You want that kind of man in the White House?
@dolittleskippy You don’t really care of Ron Paul is racist or not? That explains the degraded, racist state of the US right there. It doesn’t bother you that someone running for President is “unaware” of what goes out under his name? That is the epitome of irresponsibility. Do you really think Paul would *endorse* such racist articles and *not* know of their content? “Hi, I’m Ron Paul. I’m not a racist, but my financial backers are.”
@electroluxia What I care about is the fact that this country is going to collapse and we are BROKE and STILL being robbed by the banksters and the elite and our lovely politicians. We are becoming a police state and losing our rights and sovereignty FAST! RP is the ONLY one who will stop this I compare people attacking Ron Paul over stupid stuff that the MSM throws out there like being in a blowup lifeboat in an ocean and poking holes in it because the color doesn't suit them.Trivial really!
@dolittleskippy the same thing that gave the banksters their power and crashed the US economy is the same thing Paul stands for--privatization of everything, FURTHER de-regulations for said banks, etc. if Paul is President it will simply be more of the same as we had with W. Bush. Paul is just *another* privatizing, de-regulating Republican. Paul is the last thing the US needs. de-regulation of the banks is exactly how we got "broke" in the first place.
@electroluxia You must be one of those misguided occupy people. You don't understand Austrian economics and how a TRUE free market works. What you are talking about is CRONY capitalism. VERY different! Ron Paul wants to do away with the FED which is what is really behind the banksters. He is the ONLY one that wouldn't be like Bush but a lot of people don't understand that. Problem is RP doesn't make a lot of stuff clear in his speeches. Always rushed in speeches. Running out of characters here.
@dolittleskippy to get the Fed big money/the banks, and religion out of politics. Republicans are fighting to further de-regulate banks, oil companies etc., and use religion as a tool to control the masses, and give them (corporations) more power to control the masses and buy politicians.
@electroluxia I TOTALLY agree with you on this point. We seem to agree on the end result just not the way to get there. How would you suggest we get to this end?
@electroluxia You are not seeing the big picture. And you still haven't watched the videos I said to watch. Had nothing to do with Swann. I don't know the real reason you don't like Ron Paul but most black people don't take those stupid newsletters serious which you would know if you researched it at all. There are lots of videos from BLACKS holding up for Ron Paul on youtube. You should listen to some of them.
@dolittleskippy@dolittleskippy on the contrary, all of my African American friends take those newsletters very seriously and do not like Ron Paul. i have heard the man speak. his delivery is disjointed and erratic. he is against women's rights, gay rights, he wants to privatize everything which is how the US got into the bad state we're in now from 8 years of Bush, and wants to fractionalize the US into little Nation States where each State is like a little country. It's absolutely ridiculous.
@electroluxia I agree that he isn't the best at speeches. That is part of his charm though. He doesn't have anyone write speeches for him. He speaks from the heart. He doesn't memorize. He doesn't stand there and act ten years old fighting with the others on stage. He talks about ISSUES. Not GOSSIP. He isn't a slick talking politician. He is a STATESMAN. Please at least watch "Ron Paul on Homosexuality" even if I can't get you to watch the other stuff. I don't think you want to do you?
Watched Ron Paul on Homosexuality. That was a disgusting interview. The interviewer is a lunatic. Paul seems noncommittal on the current crucial gay issues where he needs to be rock solid in his views. Some things Paul says makes sense overall, but the vast majority of what he really stands for is not good. I do also agree the Fed/big money needs to be eradicated from government. The Occupy People are spot on. Anti-Occupiers support the greedy Fed, Wall Street vermin that crashed the US.
@electroluxia I thought RP made it pretty clear that he thinks that gay people should have the same rights to marriage and property as anyone else. Didn't you get that from the video? You say Ron Paul isn't clear on stuff a lot. I don't see that. He wants the states to have the say the way it was written in the constitution. Not the Federal Government. I am not for much for the occupiers because all I see from them is that they want everything to be free. I do however want to end the FED.
@electroluxia Well, The only experience I have with the healthcare in those countries is from watching "Sicko" so I can't really comment on that. BUT, I have talked to people from England and some say it's great and others say it sucks so who knows? What I DO know is that it won't work in the US because there is too much corruption. Once again I ask you, Who's supposed to pay for it? Maybe you don't get that we are broke! You gonna pay for it?
@dolittleskippy And I direct you again to England, Canada and Europe...a huge chunk of the world populace. Everyone pays in to the system, therefore everyone in the system is covered. It works. There is nothing for me to prove. It's *been* working for QUITE a long time in those countries harboring billions of people. It's a proven system. Again, denying the pre-existing facts are not going to make them go away.
@dolittleskippy Yeah... corruption sucks. I'd like a little bit of socialism... not much, but a little... but a corrupt government makes these things impossible.
SUCK. They say, "Perscriptions for the elderly" and we get inflated prices on medication. This bites.
@electroluxia saying the same thing you stated in your previous point and then bring up some topics completely unrelated to what we were discussing to act as if I didn't address the issues. About the hate crimes....if they are actual crimes they will be prosecuted as crimes. Paul isn't against the state government enforcing things like this, but feel the Fed should stay out of it under the Constitution. Paul isn't trying to abolish this stuff, he wants state to take it over.
@tbergen1 And I brought up the other issues as you are ignorant of them. Here’s more: In Ron Paul's ideal America, safety regulations imposed on employers by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration would be a thing of the past. Clean air and water regulations imposed by the Environmental Protection Agency would be no more. GOV. REGULATIONS are there to protect the PEOPLE. Ron Paul is simply just another de-regulating corporate-owned Republican posing as something else, entirely.
@electroluxia someone who has braincancer today already dies when he doesnt have the money for it, as do 50 000 americans a year. I am all in favor of universal healthcare but either you get universal healthcare, or you get rid of corporate healthcare that costs you a ton of money and doesnt help you once you get actually sick. and ron paul corporate owned? he never accepted a penny from lobbyists, he is against bailouts, and against the military industrial complex. Ron paul isnt perfect.
@tf2cheats Ron Paul is corporate owned regardless of whether he takes money lobbyists, etc., or not. He is ONLY looking out for corporations' interests: Additionally, if Ron Paul were President, taxpayers would save money, since Ron Paul would abolish the Department of Education and cut the Food and Drug Administration's budget by 40%. Employers would save money by paying workers as little as they wish, since he would abolish the Davis-Bacon Act. If the above isn't corporate-owned, nothing is.
@tf2cheats And I'm not "making stuff up." Everything I said has been documented and is readily available for verification. Please, do research before accusing people of "making stuff up."
@tf2cheats Please, allow me to re-phrase it as you're simply (willfully) not getting it. He is corporate whore looking out for corporations' interesting, only.
@electroluxia Okay, first of all, you had assumed I was ignorant of those issues you brought up. We were speaking about nothing of the sort, so because I don't mention something in my argument with you that has nothing to do with the subject then I am automatically ignorant to those subjects? Let's use some logic here, please. I never said Ron Paul was perfect in ever facet of his campaign, but in the parts that are urgent he is the man for the job...
@electroluxia This goes back to what I have been saying over and over again. Ron Paul wants to limit the federal government, not the state governments. This means that all the things that are being done now by Washington, that are messing it up and are creating problems will be issues handled by the states. Do you really think that because there is no federal administration that states, or citizens for that matter, will stand by and allow themselves to be underpaid and exposed..
@tbergen1 Yes, I do believe that because there is no federal administration that states, or citizens for that matter, will stand by and allow themselves to be underpaid and exposed. It is already being done. Workers have no rights. In a free market, companies do not compete. They collude. Ron Paul is not the man for the job. Ron Paul is a lie. But the argument 1 way or the other is specious. He will not be President.
@electroluxia Okay, like I said before I do not agree with everything Congressman Paul says. The thing I keep saying that you seem to not want to acknowledge is that it would be a transition of regulation from federal power to state power. States could adopt these laws and regulations, Ron Paul does not say they can't. He believes the federal government should have no place in the regulation though. I don't want people to suffer just like you, but the fed shouldn't do this.
@electroluxia ...to dangerous situations? Give me a break with that. The free market dictates that companies that do this will inevitably fail. with competition among many of these companies, each company will want to have happy workers in order to maintain profitability, otherwise they fail and they make no profit. The states should regulate pollution and the environment as they are more in touch with what happens within their confines. The problem you have is that you are..
@electroluxia ...1) either being willfully dense or 2) believe that the federal government should hold your hand for your whole life. I will repeat this. Many of the powers that have made the federal government an overreaching, over-powered entity can be effectively governed and enforced by the state government. The federal government under the Constitution of the United States is not supposed to handle most of these matters. Again, state regulation over federal regulation.
@tbergen1 your hyperbolizing on a grand scale. the government is not supposed to "hold anyone's hand" at all and socialized healthcare does not do that. that kind knee-jerk reaction is always used by opponents of socialized medicine. it is old and tired. healtchare for all is there as needed for those who need it at any given time. it is not something to LIVE on, as you propose.
@electroluxia Please tell me how socialized healthcare does not hold people's hands? It uses the money from everyone to pay for people who either can't procure it or abuse the system. The problem with socialized medicine is that it is funded by everyone when not everybody pays into it. If everyone paid into it then there would be no problem. You say my reaction is a knee jerk one, but I never said healthcare was meant to live off of. I don't even think healthcare should...
@electroluxia ...be used unless it is something that is necessary like a surgery or something like that. There would be a lot less complications if people didn't depend on health insurance and things like that to pay for every single medical thing like a check up at the doctor. I'm not saying socialized healthcare is bad, but at that point it only works if everybody contributes equally and they don't. To refute your point, why don't we just abandon money, then everything is free
@electroluxia Yes, abandoning money is not realistic, but you have to see that a valid appendage to your way of thinking would be just that. At that point we could become completely socialist as it is meant to preserve the good of the whole where everyone is equal. The point is, the burden of taking care of everybody should not be forcibly placed on you because the government says so. Why are you so opposed to state run socialized medicine and not federal programs. They...
@electroluxia ...would work equally well and would be more manageable as it is on a state level. This method does not "ban" socialized medicine, but does not impose it on everyone in the country either. Please tell me how this flies in the face of what you want because to me it sounds like it satisfies both what you want and what others want in terms of freedom to choose how they spend their money. A federal mandate is telling you what is best for you, and that is not right.
@electroluxia The EPA and OSHA screw things up more than they help. You haven't looked behind the scenes at these departments. Have you checked out what the BLM has been doing lately?
The EPA allows big business to get away with murder but clamps down on the little guy.
@electroluxia I should be forced to take care of everyone even though they may not do as much as I do. Yes, some people are inherently disabled and cannot care for themselves, but this is directed at those who abuse the system. For those not able to help it, that is where the state comes in, not the Fed. If you want to have a factually based, civil conversation about these issue then I am all for it, but if you want to spout of inaccurate ideas and flashy words such as individual-hating,...
@electroluxia Please do not mistake ideas promoting personal responsibility for the individual as being a selfish person. Everyone should be responsible for themselves. Of course moral values will cause community to rise up and help those in need, but the federal government should not be allowed to force people to help. If anything, your idea of socialized healthcare, while perfect and nice on a utopian level, are selfish and greed promoting. What you are basically saying is that...
@electroluxia Yes the free market promotes success, but shouldn't any economy do that. In the free market there are no government bailouts for companies that have become "too big to fail." Actually, under the free market this isn't even a viable idea. The free market restores accountability to corporations and makes them keep themselves in check, otherwise they fail. This means there is no more abusing the system like they have been doing with the promise of a bailout...
@electroluxia These plans also restore accountability to people. Some people will abuse the system of this type of government mandated healthcare because they are lazy. There is no refuting this proposition. This would make those people accountable for their attitudes and not make hard working taxpayers allow people to effectively "freeload" off of them. This isn't always the case, but it does happen. When you say Dr. Paul has corporate/rich-loving values you are completely wrong....
@electroluxia Dr. Paul also does not endorse the turning away of people of need life saving operations like you imply. If somebody is greatly hurt, they are always brought to the hospital and are always given the best care whether they can afford it or not. Again, this is a matter of the federal government being involved. Congressman Paul has no qualms about how the states handle these issues, but does not want the federal government to play a role in this...
@electroluxia decreases to remain a viable profit creating business for these companies. The beneficiary of this competition is the consumer, who gets to see lower more affordable costs for insurance and medical treatment. Ron Paul has not said let those people die who cannot afford healthcare. He simply said the federal government should not mandate that the population take care of those who don't. He said it can be left to the state to decide what happens to their citizens without it...
@electroluxia Due to this, prices for college should actually decrease in order for these colleges to remain viable as a for-profit institution against their competitors. With the government subsidizing everything the colleges do not have to decrease prices because they know government will pick up the slack and allow them to retain their high cost of admission. The healthcare thing works on the same principle. In a competitive and free market, the cost of insurance and treatments/drugs...
@electroluxia You do realize that the privatization of schools is mainly for colleges and universities. To understand Dr. Paul you need to understand the free market, something you clearly do not understand. If colleges are forced to compete with each other to get students and make profits like they want, they are forced to lower their prices to appeal to "consumers." The free market dictates that the company that provides the most value to the consumer will ultimately win this race.
Sorry, it's not a true democracy, that would be mob rule. It's a constitutional republic, that's why there is an electoral college. The electoral college has a final say which is sometimes why there are issuse as well. This video does not adress those issues.
@DMChoreographer Interesting how most people find a mental detour at immediate will to avoid the implications of the main point of any profoundly confronting content, like in this video. What issues? And, so what?
Sorry. The US is a constitutionally-limited, democratic republic. The basis of the system is the democratic vote. No amount of right-wing talking points will change that fact.
Ron Paul is dangerous—and worse, so are his blind sheep, willfully ignorant, FANATICAL Paulbot supporters. Ron Paul is simply ANOTHER privatizing, Evolution/Science-denying corporate-whore Republican, posing as something else, entirely.
@electroluxia Who fucking cares if he believes in evolution or not. He is not willing to impose his beliefs on others, something which these other candidates and administrations have been doing. You call Ron Paul supporters sheep when you cannot even separate the things that matter from the things that don't.
@tbergen1 LOL. Ron Paul absolutely will impose his beliefs in on others and will initiate and pass legislation accordingly. If you don’t believe that, you are willfully deluding yourself (like all Paulbots are famous for doing). It matters greatly that a President of the United States of America believe in Evolution. In not believing in Evolution, Ron Paul is essentially denying *scientific facts*. Anyone who denies scientific FACTS does not belong in Office.
@electroluxia Hey buddy, what evidence do you have that Ron Paul will impose his beliefs on everyone. He believes in limiting federal influence on our lives greatly. If you didn't know, the President is part of the executive branch of the FEDERAL government. If I believed in the flying spaghetti monster, would that make me any less of a great political leader? Science and religion has no place in politics. Politics is about governing the people and preserving their liberties.
@electroluxia Countless times in countless debates Ron Paul has stated his beliefs and stated he does not want to impose his views on others.He is the only candidate to do so.It is ironic how you are calling the "Paulbots" irrational and saying they can't see the truth, when you can't even provide evidence for what you are saying and are blindly making assumptions that have no basis in truth.Ron Paul is the only rational choice for preserving liberty and that is clear from debates.
@tbergen1 Ron Paul wants to privatize all schools. Only the rich can be educated? Goes against everything America stands for. Ron Paul also says healthcare is not a right. So, again, only the rich have the right to have life saving operations. Ron Paul is just another Republican with Republican individual-hating, corporate/rich-loving values. His views against SCIENCE are just the tip of the ice berg.
Things will not change this corporatocracy until everyone GETS INVOLVED as overseers and DEMAND real transparency.
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zZzbootzZz 19 hours ago
LIVE RECORDING OF HAND COUNTING IN PUBLIC VIEWING
iamaronpaulblican 1 day ago
Awesome! Great documentary! All it takes is one Accu-Card with that executable program in it to change an entire election and course of a country!
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@mitchicus Good point, good point. He did say something along those lines. I don't usually believe in coincidences, but I suppose this one's plausible.
HaliteAnn 2 days ago
Rest in Peace, Andy Stevenson. Thanks.
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HaliteAnn 2 days ago
Did anyone notice that GEMS icon, the Gems.exe icon was a hand holding the world?
ikantspeell 2 days ago 2
29:50 LOTR reference!! One does not simply walk in to a voting booth!!
mitchicus 3 days ago
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mitchicus 3 days ago
Lol The seeds of doubt have been growing ever since the same traitorous 1%ers keep getting reelected.
4Freedomrider 4 days ago
THEY KILLED KENNY!
Bullpuma 4 days ago
"I care not who wins an election as long as I count the votes" ----- Diebold----
Therapeuticmessenger 4 days ago
BTW i'm a ron paul hopeful . But i realize he wont be allowed to win, the powers at be are agent the public. And they are 10000x more powerful than you. Sure you can pull a lawsuit, and wrangle in court for 3 years. But these crooks will rig the elections, until the the masse catches on...only then will it stop....if ever.
bottle2lip 4 days ago
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should we give in to them? That is the question...law or not.
bottle2lip 4 days ago
@bottle2lip I would prefer Ron Paul over Obama, but at least Romney can't cheat his way to beating Obama, he's just too powerful.
ZigZagzGoon 4 days ago
lol of course the FEDs stayed away. You can dumpster dive all you want, and cry foul. Wont matter. Your a slave. And will realize this in a year or 4
bottle2lip 4 days ago
Am I the only one skeptical about this lady just stumbling over the election program files online?
HaliteAnn 4 days ago
@HaliteAnn Well, the Diebold guy admitted it was their fault @ 12:00.
mitchicus 3 days ago
@HaliteAnn you're not. I feel trolled hard by the people starring "Hacking Democracy". it's obviously staged but for what reason? wtf is this
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No one tampers with election results. Why should they? The wrong people always win every election, because all candidates are prequalified by the Khazarian Zionists (fake Jewish illuminati banksters who hijacked our world and minds). Either way elections go, we lose and thee banksters win.
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stopdemockery 5 days ago
We've never had a real democracy on earth. Democracy is government designed to define and fulfill the true will of the People. Our will has never been defined or expressed. It's always been maligned and repressed. What we have that we mistakenly call democracy makes a mockery of the very concept of democracy. So, let's call it DEMOCKERY! We have only one system of democracy at MajorityVoice. Use it or lose it.
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stopdemockery 5 days ago
know your roll when voting and Ron Paul the Revolution 2012 Washington DC Feb 20th
sedj4wd 5 days ago
If computers are allowed to run everything then the wrong people will be allowed to do a "lot" of things that affect us! Maybe we don't need "partisan parties" in power to make decisions, we have enough rules and laws ..maybe if an issue absolutely needed to be voted on .. we could do it ourselves ..like we are doing now
hollyannblss 5 days ago
25,000 views as of this, February 17, 2012. This country deserves exactly what we get. I say we should bring each and every one of our soldiers home right this minute, as it is obvious they are dying around the world for a population that could care less about the sanctity of their country.
We are a pathetic bunch of self centered lazy cowards who don't deserve their protection.
EpluribusMaximus 6 days ago 3
@EpluribusMaximus YT views are even easier to rig than an election.
PatriotReport 6 days ago
I wish the liberals who exposed this were as worried about all the thousands if not millions of fraudulent registered voters put forth by ACORN and other democratic front organizations!
txflyboy63 6 days ago
you amaricans are fucked in so many ways, it's amazing you still use the word democracy....
MsMcOwnage 1 week ago 3
@MsMcOwnage I don't use the Nazi word democracy
PatrickRohr1 1 week ago
@PatrickRohr1
It´s ridiculous nowadays to call Germans Nazis! (By the way, I´m not a German!)
They don´t call you monsters for Nagasaki, Hiroshima and all actions that followed!
Think about it!
harmonyDream 6 days ago
@MsMcOwnage - Only the Sith speak in absolutes.
ETHIOLOGIST1 5 days ago
Negative values on really large numbers... sounds like someone used a signed data type and didn't accommodate for oveflow; sounds like bad programing
comochinganconesto 1 week ago
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Eh. The only reason this happened in the first place is beause people are shockingly stupid. You can get rid of Diebold but another similar company or voter fraud strategy will pop up the next week, because the majority of americans are simply not intelligent enough to recognize deception.
zapproowsdower 1 week ago
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zapproowsdower 1 week ago
Why am I visualizing a Trojan horse? Are we just going to ignore this truth now that it is known. Please share the heck out of this video with your friends, family, co-workers.
Glamrma 1 week ago
Diebold are criminals, and should be in prison along with the GOP behind some of this voter fraud. They are perpetrating fraud against Ron Paul right now, and they know they are. The mass media is also aiding them in it.
RevolutionNow123 1 week ago 2
thumbs up if you cried at the end too
mas88rus 1 week ago 2
the worst part?
No action has been taken to change this.
weswill2008 2 weeks ago 3
Check this similar documentary: "Murder Spies and Voting Lies" /watch?v=GhBtfiRKaVY
jack19770002 2 weeks ago
honestly, unless america sorts it shit out its heading for disaster
exomorphe 2 weeks ago
Good to see Ron Paul supporters all over the web and all over the critical issues. How come you don't get Romney, Perry or Gingrich supporters on the "internets"? LOL.
But anyway, from a left-wing (usually) Brit - Ron Paul can really unite intelligent people of all political leanings just because he really can see the big picture and the trouble America is getting itself into with corrupt legislation and dishonest interests. Respect to you guys - there are many of us overseas who are with you.
mikegalsworthy 2 weeks ago 37
Great video, thank you for making it.
collinwilliams 2 weeks ago
This is very disturbing
flylikeaneagle1776 2 weeks ago 13
Just reformat the cards... duh. Thanks for killing an hour 20 of my life...
GotScout 2 weeks ago
@GotScout Did you watch the part where they were printing the certification tapes and then changing the results in-house? This video deals with more than one type of corruption.
collinwilliams 2 weeks ago
why don't more people know about this. RON PAUL 2012.
MrAtheismrules 2 weeks ago 6
this is kind of scary... but why don't we just take the extra time and go back to paper votes? So the media won't be able to tell you who one for a few days... at least we'll have our democracy in check... who's with me in demanding paper votes?
thelamarvelous2 2 weeks ago
@thelamarvelous2 You got my VOTE on that thought! Ha ha I have been thinking the same thing and so have others!
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
nevada is rigged against ron paul
polvijverman 2 weeks ago
1 dislike is from the Chief Illuminati.
My dear people, we must write-in Ron Paul regardless if his name is on a computer screen or other electronic system. We must write in his name, video record us submitting it and then submit the video evidence to an open wiki where the entire public can count each vote and see video evidence of each vote. The technology to do this is simple and it already exists.
DuhEnlightenedOne 2 weeks ago
@07:22 there's a video glitch when it talks about faulty technology :P
snakeford 2 weeks ago
As an Ohio citizen and an American citizen (for now), I am ashamed to even watch this. This is why I have and never will vote. I can't believe people in this country still go for those rah rah freedom and liberty in America speeches. Its all bullshit. And as for the comments about Ron Paul being a racist, do you think he would be the first racist president in this country? I know some people from New Orleans who would tell you their honest opinion on that. BTW I don't believe Paul is racist.
venomous513 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
pause at 4:10 and read some of the shit
madcuntmcgee 2 weeks ago
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electroluxia 2 weeks ago
I live in a land of hypocrisy.
gwhyhate 2 weeks ago
Hold on.. [PAUSE] America is not a democracy. It's a democratic republic. This can lead to a BIG difference. Okay, continue. [PLAY]
ikbinhans 2 weeks ago
This should be required viewing for every fucking American. Absolutely amazing potential for abuse, very, very, disturbing.
2hambonemcgee 2 weeks ago 4
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electroluxia 2 weeks ago
Voting Fraud isn't the exception, it's the political process. The United States of America is not a democracy, it is every bit the vision of George Orwell.
PeacelnValhalla 2 weeks ago 5
@PeacelnValhalla I am reading that book as we speak. It shows Orwell had a pretty good understanding of human nature and elite thinking.
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
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Ron Paul is not winjning ANY state because only MORONS will cast a vote for a racist nutjob who believes that there should be ZERO LAWS and ZERO REGULATIONS.
MrMKH2010 2 weeks ago
@MrMKH2010 You are a fucking idiot.. Do some research before you make such stupid assumptions and make yourself look like a fucking retard.
thekeithchannel 2 weeks ago 9
@thekeithchannel I felt like saying that to the jerk but decided he/she was too stupid to even warrant the energy to reply to.
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@thekeithchannel lol he has been watching too much Fox News and listening to Rush Limbaugh. MrMKH2010 is a sheep.
venomous513 2 weeks ago
@MrMKH2010 amazing the level of ignorance some people can acheive...
linkincide 2 weeks ago
The only reason Dr. Ron Paul is not winning every single state is because of this kind of corruption.
in SC 950 dead folks have cast votes
Error934 2 weeks ago 52
@Error934 what needs to happen is a small movement of reporters to look into matters for every county or so and see if we can get them to look into this. A movement like that would be amazing, but difficult.
Netheeros 2 weeks ago
@Error934 Either way, no matter what happens, we'll always have anonymous ^_^
Netheeros 2 weeks ago
@Error934 That happened with Obama too! Amazing how so many dead people have a say isn't it?
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
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Vote4RonPaulLiberty 1 week ago
@Error934 BULLSHIT!
smmack1 1 week ago
THIS IS SHOCKING I KNEW THEY WERE PROBABLY RIGGED BUT THIS PROVES THEY ARE, FAIR PLAY TO THAT LADYS DETERMINATION WHAT A GREAT FIGHTING SPIRIT !!
INFONIZATION 2 weeks ago
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." -- Joseph Stalin
kaldemvor 2 weeks ago
iv always asked this when it came to votes. isnt it possible someone can change the votes and you wouldnt even know it? it was only a matter of time til this movie came out. Now Im putting some bets that this Election will repeat it self and that the people will not be so naive that their democratic rights are being stripped off. I would like to see how the 1% handles the uproar and anger they have given to the people not just in this nation but around the world.
killlagger468 3 weeks ago
Bet the Iowa and NH and Florida votes were rigged against Ron Paul!
dolittleskippy 3 weeks ago 45
@dolittleskippy i only make bets that i can win.
killlagger468 3 weeks ago
@dolittleskippy Watch this link, it clearly explains the Iowa poll actually was RIGGED!
faller006 2 weeks ago
@faller006 Which link? There was nothing there. I have watched this video. Hacking Democracy. Did you mean some other as well? Now they are busy rigging Nevada.
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@dolittleskippy Ron Paul - Fraud Victim in 2012 Watch the video with this exact title and it clearly explains the iowa poll was actually RIGGED!!! i'd post the link but whenever i try to link to that video youtube says that there was an error produced (i know creepy).
faller006 2 weeks ago
@faller006 Oh, okay, I will watch that. Read the other posting first. Sorry.
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@dolittleskippy duh
PeacelnValhalla 2 weeks ago
@PeacelnValhalla To which comment?
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
Who is Fred Silverman??? Something must be done; Die-Bold investors check out WHO makes the money alone from the sale of these machines + bet also Dems + Repubs??? Check it out I have heard that X-Presidents + X-Vice Presidents are some top 'owners of this Equipment' a good angle to look into; I knew this was going on just did not know what method used because I am not PC skilled. Thanks to those that have shared this information with us; may our towns+ (Hey Ohio Wake the F____K up!) RIP Andy5*+
nancyl2 3 weeks ago
Do you think going back to a paper ballet would make a difference?? Hell no because these Crooked beings would find someway of paying off someone in a voting district to pitch votes away ONLY take them home + burn them. Get rid of the skunk; for if not their stench will still linger + cause grief. A lier-is always a lier. This was a powerful vid + better make people awaken. What a hoot?? These people know that something is wrong; or they would not have covered up with false info;not Originals.
nancyl2 3 weeks ago
You only need to watch the last 30mins to see why we should never abandon a paper vote.
sang3Eta 3 weeks ago
joe rogan
bseneczyn 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia which is actually a poor choice of words since Ron Paul promotes the rights of the individual, and corporate/rich-loving then I want no part. We need to open up real discussion with each other and stop going with what we see on the news and other forms of biased media. Look at the real issues and make it a point to research the theory driving them. I don't think you are stupid, I think you are just misinformed. I hope what I have said will help you understand. Thanks.
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@tbergen1 Healthcare is a Right in Europe and England and they’re doing just fine. So it’s okay for someone to die because they can’t pay for an expensive operation, in your view. Perhaps if Karma delivered you a hefty case of brain cancer you’d change your tune. In May 2007, Paul voted NO on criminalizing oil cartels like OPEC. In April 2009, Paul voted NO on enforcing against anti-gay hate crimes. You are worse than misinformed. You are ignorant about Ron Paul.
electroluxia 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia I don't care if healthcare is a right in Europe and England. You assume just because there wouldn't be universal healthcare that they would let people die. Paul wants the Fed out of healthcare. He said the states can do what ever they want about mandates. I don't know what you don't understand about that. If karma delivered me brain cancer I would pay for my treatment. You call me ignorant about Ron Paul after you reiterated a point I already explained by...
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@tbergen1 You conveniently sidestep the broader issue. What if someone had brain cancer and couldn’t pay for it? Under your misguided, blind sheep acceptance of Ron Paul’s inhumane views, that person *would* die. And you condone that. That is disgusting. Healthcare is a right in the Civilized World--England, Europe, Canada, etc.--a compassionate, humane world the United States does not participate.
electroluxia 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia Who do you expect to pay for this "right"?
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@dolittleskippy @dolittleskippy Look at Canada, England and Europe...all huge land masses with millions/billions of people. They have an awesome healthcare system that works and, again, everyone is covered by healthcare. America is backwards on such issues because of corporate profiteering and those who refuse to see it.
electroluxia 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia Ron Paul contributed to the newsletters by writing financial stuff. It's called "Ron Paul's Financial Reports" for God's sake.
Look at Ron's record on Race issues. He's a freaking libertarian.
muslimgiga 2 weeks ago
@muslimgiga Paul personally repeated and defended some of the most incendiary racial claims in the newsletters.
electroluxia 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia where?
muslimgiga 2 weeks ago
@muslimgiga Please, see FACT CHECK: Ron Paul Personally Defended Racist Newsletters on Think Progress. YouTube does not allow pasting links in Comments anymore. You could also do this research, yourself.
electroluxia 2 weeks ago
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@muslimgiga Please, see FACT CHECK: Ron Paul Personally Defended Racist Newsletters on Think Progress. YouTube does not allow pasting links in Comments anymore. You could also do this research, yourself.
electroluxia 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia I am SICK of hearing about Ron Paul being racist. GET OVER IT! WATCH "The compassion of Dr Ron Paul" and let's see you defend that stupid argument. While you are at it watch "Busted Ron Paul's Racist Rant caught on Tape" Problem is nobody has anything real to bitch about with Ron Paul. Who do you want to run this place into the ground? Romney? Gingrich? Sanctomonious? Or Oh bombya? All of them are elitists!
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@dolittleskippy I don’t need to get over Ron Paul being racist. He IS racist, and the facts and records document it. He even admitted to writing and authorizing those racist letters to a radio interviewer when the interviewer cornered him. It doesn’t matter that you're sick of hearing it. You will never stop hearing it. It’s the truth and it’s out there. You denying the facts are not going to make them go away.
electroluxia 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia Watch Ben Swann's Reality Check on the newsletters. I still think he's a homophobe, but I don't think he's racist.
The racist writing appeared for two years and then disappeared. You've got thousands of speeches he's given to judge him by.
My dad was a racist. It came through loud and clear when he spoke.
Everyone's a LITTLE bit racist (avenue q), but I find RP to be less than most... but still a bit homophobic =P
ParrhesiaJoe 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia I KNOW he's not racist and I don't really care if he is or not. If you won't be bothered to watch the videos I put in the comment then there is no talking you into doing so. Some people just look for shit to bitch about. How about Gingrich saying black kids should have to be janitors to learn work ethics? How about Perry having a ranch called niggerhead? Why aren't you harping on that? Must be a welfare lover.
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@dolittleskippy Really think he's against gays? Watch "Ron Paul on Homosexuality" and get back to me on that. Maybe you will actually watch stuff. Narrowminded electro won't
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@dolittleskippy In April 2009, Paul voted NO on enforcing against anti-gay hate crimes.
electroluxia 2 weeks ago
@dolittleskippy The Ben Swann videos really are inconclusive. Look up, Paul Tells Radio Caller: I Wrote a ‘Certain Portion’ of Controversial Newsletters, on The Blaze. First, Ron Paul comes out and says he had NOTHING to do with those controversial articles. Then he comes out and admits he wrote a ‘certain portion’ of those articles. He was caught lying to save his ass. You want that kind of man in the White House?
electroluxia 2 weeks ago
@dolittleskippy You don’t really care of Ron Paul is racist or not? That explains the degraded, racist state of the US right there. It doesn’t bother you that someone running for President is “unaware” of what goes out under his name? That is the epitome of irresponsibility. Do you really think Paul would *endorse* such racist articles and *not* know of their content? “Hi, I’m Ron Paul. I’m not a racist, but my financial backers are.”
electroluxia 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia What I care about is the fact that this country is going to collapse and we are BROKE and STILL being robbed by the banksters and the elite and our lovely politicians. We are becoming a police state and losing our rights and sovereignty FAST! RP is the ONLY one who will stop this I compare people attacking Ron Paul over stupid stuff that the MSM throws out there like being in a blowup lifeboat in an ocean and poking holes in it because the color doesn't suit them.Trivial really!
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@dolittleskippy the same thing that gave the banksters their power and crashed the US economy is the same thing Paul stands for--privatization of everything, FURTHER de-regulations for said banks, etc. if Paul is President it will simply be more of the same as we had with W. Bush. Paul is just *another* privatizing, de-regulating Republican. Paul is the last thing the US needs. de-regulation of the banks is exactly how we got "broke" in the first place.
electroluxia 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia You must be one of those misguided occupy people. You don't understand Austrian economics and how a TRUE free market works. What you are talking about is CRONY capitalism. VERY different! Ron Paul wants to do away with the FED which is what is really behind the banksters. He is the ONLY one that wouldn't be like Bush but a lot of people don't understand that. Problem is RP doesn't make a lot of stuff clear in his speeches. Always rushed in speeches. Running out of characters here.
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia Just wondering. What is your solution to the state this country is in?
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@dolittleskippy to get the Fed big money/the banks, and religion out of politics. Republicans are fighting to further de-regulate banks, oil companies etc., and use religion as a tool to control the masses, and give them (corporations) more power to control the masses and buy politicians.
electroluxia 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia I TOTALLY agree with you on this point. We seem to agree on the end result just not the way to get there. How would you suggest we get to this end?
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia You are not seeing the big picture. And you still haven't watched the videos I said to watch. Had nothing to do with Swann. I don't know the real reason you don't like Ron Paul but most black people don't take those stupid newsletters serious which you would know if you researched it at all. There are lots of videos from BLACKS holding up for Ron Paul on youtube. You should listen to some of them.
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@dolittleskippy @dolittleskippy on the contrary, all of my African American friends take those newsletters very seriously and do not like Ron Paul. i have heard the man speak. his delivery is disjointed and erratic. he is against women's rights, gay rights, he wants to privatize everything which is how the US got into the bad state we're in now from 8 years of Bush, and wants to fractionalize the US into little Nation States where each State is like a little country. It's absolutely ridiculous.
electroluxia 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia I agree that he isn't the best at speeches. That is part of his charm though. He doesn't have anyone write speeches for him. He speaks from the heart. He doesn't memorize. He doesn't stand there and act ten years old fighting with the others on stage. He talks about ISSUES. Not GOSSIP. He isn't a slick talking politician. He is a STATESMAN. Please at least watch "Ron Paul on Homosexuality" even if I can't get you to watch the other stuff. I don't think you want to do you?
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
Watched Ron Paul on Homosexuality. That was a disgusting interview. The interviewer is a lunatic. Paul seems noncommittal on the current crucial gay issues where he needs to be rock solid in his views. Some things Paul says makes sense overall, but the vast majority of what he really stands for is not good. I do also agree the Fed/big money needs to be eradicated from government. The Occupy People are spot on. Anti-Occupiers support the greedy Fed, Wall Street vermin that crashed the US.
electroluxia 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia I thought RP made it pretty clear that he thinks that gay people should have the same rights to marriage and property as anyone else. Didn't you get that from the video? You say Ron Paul isn't clear on stuff a lot. I don't see that. He wants the states to have the say the way it was written in the constitution. Not the Federal Government. I am not for much for the occupiers because all I see from them is that they want everything to be free. I do however want to end the FED.
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia Thanks for watching it. I agree the interviewer is a pig. They seem to set RP up with those a lot.
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia Well, The only experience I have with the healthcare in those countries is from watching "Sicko" so I can't really comment on that. BUT, I have talked to people from England and some say it's great and others say it sucks so who knows? What I DO know is that it won't work in the US because there is too much corruption. Once again I ask you, Who's supposed to pay for it? Maybe you don't get that we are broke! You gonna pay for it?
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
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@dolittleskippy And I direct you again to England, Canada and Europe...a huge chunk of the world populace. Everyone pays in to the system, therefore everyone in the system is covered. It works. There is nothing for me to prove. It's *been* working for QUITE a long time in those countries harboring billions of people. It's a proven system. Again, denying the pre-existing facts are not going to make them go away.
electroluxia 2 weeks ago
@dolittleskippy Yeah... corruption sucks. I'd like a little bit of socialism... not much, but a little... but a corrupt government makes these things impossible.
SUCK. They say, "Perscriptions for the elderly" and we get inflated prices on medication. This bites.
ParrhesiaJoe 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia saying the same thing you stated in your previous point and then bring up some topics completely unrelated to what we were discussing to act as if I didn't address the issues. About the hate crimes....if they are actual crimes they will be prosecuted as crimes. Paul isn't against the state government enforcing things like this, but feel the Fed should stay out of it under the Constitution. Paul isn't trying to abolish this stuff, he wants state to take it over.
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@tbergen1 And I brought up the other issues as you are ignorant of them. Here’s more: In Ron Paul's ideal America, safety regulations imposed on employers by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration would be a thing of the past. Clean air and water regulations imposed by the Environmental Protection Agency would be no more. GOV. REGULATIONS are there to protect the PEOPLE. Ron Paul is simply just another de-regulating corporate-owned Republican posing as something else, entirely.
electroluxia 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia someone who has braincancer today already dies when he doesnt have the money for it, as do 50 000 americans a year. I am all in favor of universal healthcare but either you get universal healthcare, or you get rid of corporate healthcare that costs you a ton of money and doesnt help you once you get actually sick. and ron paul corporate owned? he never accepted a penny from lobbyists, he is against bailouts, and against the military industrial complex. Ron paul isnt perfect.
tf2cheats 3 weeks ago
@tf2cheats Ron Paul is corporate owned regardless of whether he takes money lobbyists, etc., or not. He is ONLY looking out for corporations' interests: Additionally, if Ron Paul were President, taxpayers would save money, since Ron Paul would abolish the Department of Education and cut the Food and Drug Administration's budget by 40%. Employers would save money by paying workers as little as they wish, since he would abolish the Davis-Bacon Act. If the above isn't corporate-owned, nothing is.
electroluxia 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia but if you do criticize him dont make stuff up.
tf2cheats 3 weeks ago
@tf2cheats And I'm not "making stuff up." Everything I said has been documented and is readily available for verification. Please, do research before accusing people of "making stuff up."
electroluxia 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia you are making stuff up, you call him corporate owned, then prove me he took lobbyist money. that simple.
tf2cheats 3 weeks ago
@tf2cheats Please, allow me to re-phrase it as you're simply (willfully) not getting it. He is corporate whore looking out for corporations' interesting, only.
electroluxia 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia Okay, first of all, you had assumed I was ignorant of those issues you brought up. We were speaking about nothing of the sort, so because I don't mention something in my argument with you that has nothing to do with the subject then I am automatically ignorant to those subjects? Let's use some logic here, please. I never said Ron Paul was perfect in ever facet of his campaign, but in the parts that are urgent he is the man for the job...
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia This goes back to what I have been saying over and over again. Ron Paul wants to limit the federal government, not the state governments. This means that all the things that are being done now by Washington, that are messing it up and are creating problems will be issues handled by the states. Do you really think that because there is no federal administration that states, or citizens for that matter, will stand by and allow themselves to be underpaid and exposed..
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@tbergen1 Yes, I do believe that because there is no federal administration that states, or citizens for that matter, will stand by and allow themselves to be underpaid and exposed. It is already being done. Workers have no rights. In a free market, companies do not compete. They collude. Ron Paul is not the man for the job. Ron Paul is a lie. But the argument 1 way or the other is specious. He will not be President.
electroluxia 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia Okay, like I said before I do not agree with everything Congressman Paul says. The thing I keep saying that you seem to not want to acknowledge is that it would be a transition of regulation from federal power to state power. States could adopt these laws and regulations, Ron Paul does not say they can't. He believes the federal government should have no place in the regulation though. I don't want people to suffer just like you, but the fed shouldn't do this.
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia ...to dangerous situations? Give me a break with that. The free market dictates that companies that do this will inevitably fail. with competition among many of these companies, each company will want to have happy workers in order to maintain profitability, otherwise they fail and they make no profit. The states should regulate pollution and the environment as they are more in touch with what happens within their confines. The problem you have is that you are..
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia ...1) either being willfully dense or 2) believe that the federal government should hold your hand for your whole life. I will repeat this. Many of the powers that have made the federal government an overreaching, over-powered entity can be effectively governed and enforced by the state government. The federal government under the Constitution of the United States is not supposed to handle most of these matters. Again, state regulation over federal regulation.
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@tbergen1 your hyperbolizing on a grand scale. the government is not supposed to "hold anyone's hand" at all and socialized healthcare does not do that. that kind knee-jerk reaction is always used by opponents of socialized medicine. it is old and tired. healtchare for all is there as needed for those who need it at any given time. it is not something to LIVE on, as you propose.
electroluxia 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia Please tell me how socialized healthcare does not hold people's hands? It uses the money from everyone to pay for people who either can't procure it or abuse the system. The problem with socialized medicine is that it is funded by everyone when not everybody pays into it. If everyone paid into it then there would be no problem. You say my reaction is a knee jerk one, but I never said healthcare was meant to live off of. I don't even think healthcare should...
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia ...be used unless it is something that is necessary like a surgery or something like that. There would be a lot less complications if people didn't depend on health insurance and things like that to pay for every single medical thing like a check up at the doctor. I'm not saying socialized healthcare is bad, but at that point it only works if everybody contributes equally and they don't. To refute your point, why don't we just abandon money, then everything is free
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia Yes, abandoning money is not realistic, but you have to see that a valid appendage to your way of thinking would be just that. At that point we could become completely socialist as it is meant to preserve the good of the whole where everyone is equal. The point is, the burden of taking care of everybody should not be forcibly placed on you because the government says so. Why are you so opposed to state run socialized medicine and not federal programs. They...
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia ...would work equally well and would be more manageable as it is on a state level. This method does not "ban" socialized medicine, but does not impose it on everyone in the country either. Please tell me how this flies in the face of what you want because to me it sounds like it satisfies both what you want and what others want in terms of freedom to choose how they spend their money. A federal mandate is telling you what is best for you, and that is not right.
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia The EPA and OSHA screw things up more than they help. You haven't looked behind the scenes at these departments. Have you checked out what the BLM has been doing lately?
The EPA allows big business to get away with murder but clamps down on the little guy.
dolittleskippy 2 weeks ago
@electroluxia I should be forced to take care of everyone even though they may not do as much as I do. Yes, some people are inherently disabled and cannot care for themselves, but this is directed at those who abuse the system. For those not able to help it, that is where the state comes in, not the Fed. If you want to have a factually based, civil conversation about these issue then I am all for it, but if you want to spout of inaccurate ideas and flashy words such as individual-hating,...
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia Please do not mistake ideas promoting personal responsibility for the individual as being a selfish person. Everyone should be responsible for themselves. Of course moral values will cause community to rise up and help those in need, but the federal government should not be allowed to force people to help. If anything, your idea of socialized healthcare, while perfect and nice on a utopian level, are selfish and greed promoting. What you are basically saying is that...
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia Yes the free market promotes success, but shouldn't any economy do that. In the free market there are no government bailouts for companies that have become "too big to fail." Actually, under the free market this isn't even a viable idea. The free market restores accountability to corporations and makes them keep themselves in check, otherwise they fail. This means there is no more abusing the system like they have been doing with the promise of a bailout...
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia These plans also restore accountability to people. Some people will abuse the system of this type of government mandated healthcare because they are lazy. There is no refuting this proposition. This would make those people accountable for their attitudes and not make hard working taxpayers allow people to effectively "freeload" off of them. This isn't always the case, but it does happen. When you say Dr. Paul has corporate/rich-loving values you are completely wrong....
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia Dr. Paul also does not endorse the turning away of people of need life saving operations like you imply. If somebody is greatly hurt, they are always brought to the hospital and are always given the best care whether they can afford it or not. Again, this is a matter of the federal government being involved. Congressman Paul has no qualms about how the states handle these issues, but does not want the federal government to play a role in this...
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia decreases to remain a viable profit creating business for these companies. The beneficiary of this competition is the consumer, who gets to see lower more affordable costs for insurance and medical treatment. Ron Paul has not said let those people die who cannot afford healthcare. He simply said the federal government should not mandate that the population take care of those who don't. He said it can be left to the state to decide what happens to their citizens without it...
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia Due to this, prices for college should actually decrease in order for these colleges to remain viable as a for-profit institution against their competitors. With the government subsidizing everything the colleges do not have to decrease prices because they know government will pick up the slack and allow them to retain their high cost of admission. The healthcare thing works on the same principle. In a competitive and free market, the cost of insurance and treatments/drugs...
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia You do realize that the privatization of schools is mainly for colleges and universities. To understand Dr. Paul you need to understand the free market, something you clearly do not understand. If colleges are forced to compete with each other to get students and make profits like they want, they are forced to lower their prices to appeal to "consumers." The free market dictates that the company that provides the most value to the consumer will ultimately win this race.
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
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NormalcyBiasISyou 3 weeks ago
1 dislike. Probably Bush
cjellwood 3 weeks ago
Sorry, it's not a true democracy, that would be mob rule. It's a constitutional republic, that's why there is an electoral college. The electoral college has a final say which is sometimes why there are issuse as well. This video does not adress those issues.
DMChoreographer 3 weeks ago
@DMChoreographer Interesting how most people find a mental detour at immediate will to avoid the implications of the main point of any profoundly confronting content, like in this video. What issues? And, so what?
TerrierBram 3 weeks ago
@TerrierBram I know, it simply flows from ignorncxe or an unwillingness to learn I suppose. Truth is "I think" it happens all the time on both sides.
DMChoreographer 3 weeks ago
Sorry. The US is a constitutionally-limited, democratic republic. The basis of the system is the democratic vote. No amount of right-wing talking points will change that fact.
burgercide 3 weeks ago
Ron Paul is dangerous—and worse, so are his blind sheep, willfully ignorant, FANATICAL Paulbot supporters. Ron Paul is simply ANOTHER privatizing, Evolution/Science-denying corporate-whore Republican, posing as something else, entirely.
electroluxia 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia They all are. And on Vermin Supreme admits it! Free ponies for all the USA!
TerrierBram 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia Who fucking cares if he believes in evolution or not. He is not willing to impose his beliefs on others, something which these other candidates and administrations have been doing. You call Ron Paul supporters sheep when you cannot even separate the things that matter from the things that don't.
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@tbergen1 LOL. Ron Paul absolutely will impose his beliefs in on others and will initiate and pass legislation accordingly. If you don’t believe that, you are willfully deluding yourself (like all Paulbots are famous for doing). It matters greatly that a President of the United States of America believe in Evolution. In not believing in Evolution, Ron Paul is essentially denying *scientific facts*. Anyone who denies scientific FACTS does not belong in Office.
electroluxia 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia Hey buddy, what evidence do you have that Ron Paul will impose his beliefs on everyone. He believes in limiting federal influence on our lives greatly. If you didn't know, the President is part of the executive branch of the FEDERAL government. If I believed in the flying spaghetti monster, would that make me any less of a great political leader? Science and religion has no place in politics. Politics is about governing the people and preserving their liberties.
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@electroluxia Countless times in countless debates Ron Paul has stated his beliefs and stated he does not want to impose his views on others.He is the only candidate to do so.It is ironic how you are calling the "Paulbots" irrational and saying they can't see the truth, when you can't even provide evidence for what you are saying and are blindly making assumptions that have no basis in truth.Ron Paul is the only rational choice for preserving liberty and that is clear from debates.
tbergen1 3 weeks ago
@tbergen1 Ron Paul wants to privatize all schools. Only the rich can be educated? Goes against everything America stands for. Ron Paul also says healthcare is not a right. So, again, only the rich have the right to have life saving operations. Ron Paul is just another Republican with Republican individual-hating, corporate/rich-loving values. His views against SCIENCE are just the tip of the ice berg.
electroluxia 3 weeks ago