Cybertron & Unicron: Scale in the Real World

[DanGan808]

Love Transformers! Interesting information provided here

[DoctorOblivian]

only one problem with you vid, the city you are using is not iacon... the dark brown gold one just below it is. and that dome building DOES has a specific size, you can look it up on the wiki i believe,

[optimusprime0091]

cocain is a helluva drug!

[3089280288]

So Unicron is the size of Florida?

[amartinez97]

I just found out, in transformers # 1 (marvel's run) it says cybertron is Saturn sized and dreamwave and IDW say the same for their continuitys.

[Econniff]

LOL, that means Cybertron doesn't count as a planet :P

[thesteelcircle]

Your methodology is faulty. Transformers toys are not to scale in the same toyline. 2007 Jazz, ex., is not to scale with Movie Starscream. Transformers toys are moreso not of consistent scale across toylines. Using 2007 Jazz to find King Starscream's height is invalid. You didn't use sig. figs., didn't calculate error, and you used a ruler, not calipers. Cybertron could be variable sizes in different continuities, also. G1 Cybertron had enough gravity to cause major gravitic effects to Earth.

[BanjoGate]

Can you reupload the scans?

[Jared666t]

is unicron bigger than cybertron or vice-versa?

[amartinez97]

he is bigger just big enough to eat it (my god that sounded so wrong XD)

[SilverOrange]

I love TransFormers, and I too own the Unicron figure in this video... but damn man, you hurt my brain with your figures and measurements!

[VPT2]

GOD DAMN UNICRON CAN'T DO SHIT THEN

[cjpatz]

great info..

I love little tid bits of knowlegde like this..

[CrappyTFhater]

Thank you. It was made necessary by our role-playing game. How do I describe to the players how big Cybertron or Unicron are? You can't guess at that and have a believable game.

[amartinez97]

i dont think unicron and cybertron are realy that small cus if they are sopost to be the size of a planet then they are about the same size as earth

[DavidPrime83]

HOLY CRAP YOU ROCK!, thank you i love when Real world sciences are used in shows it makes them feel more real.

[CrappyTFhater]

WOW THANK YOU :D most people can't wait for it to end. I think I'll throw a "You rock!" at you because your comments are insightful and clearly, you THINK.

[DCSBOY01]

DUDE BE MY FRIEND DCSBOY O AND GOOD JOB

[amartinez97]

and u are doing this with toys not very smart not trying to be rude but  realy though they are not the size of a state

[CrappyTFhater]

Thank you - I think you're one of the few people who enjoys the logic. My hat's off to you.

Since Unicron has no livable buildings or objects on him, unsurprisingly, there's nothing on him to base his size on. Assuming Cybertron and Unicron are equal to each other on the toy & pretend scale, then yes, Unicron is a tad bigger.

Given that we play a Role-Playing game, it is less difficult to tell my children, when I set the two on the table, "They are equal size to each other."

[AnceyStar]

Ya' know, I bet Unicron COULD definitely swat a satellite if he jumped, though that would be bad when he hit the ground again. For us, that is. really great explanation. Really fun to keep track with, bringing a lot of logic to it. Now, from the scale of Cybertron to Unicron, it sort of seems that Unicron would be BIGGER than Cybertron, yet you'd always get the impression that he's roughly the size of a Cybertronian Moon.

[WeirdGirlCyndi]

I'm glad I read the comments, because otherwise I might have argued that if Cybertron is that small, how do all those TF's fit on it? It'd be pretty crowded. I tend to just say Unicron is the size of Jupiter and can generate antigravity to pass by solar systems without harming them(if he chooses). But I can imagine him having a trail of asteroids orbiting him once in awhile(which could go smacking into planets. He doesn't have to be close to kill ya!)

[CrappyTFhater]

Definitely - I encourage people to come up with what works well in their imagination. In the G1 series Cybertron was presented as almost being the size of the Earth, which didn't make much sense during Unicron's appearance in the disasterous 1986 movie, and doesn't jive with Armada, either, by my estimate. I'd say that the fiction writers have sailed the Failboat when it comes to accounting for proper scale.

[WeirdGirlCyndi]

AHAHA! Besides, wouldn't Unicron landing on the planet screw up its rotation(it has gravity, how else would the TF's stand on it?) and send buildings flying?

But I think it's funny to imagine he could flick the Earth like a booger.

If he shows up in the live action movieverse, I'm hoping he gets spotted on the Hubble. That'd be realistic in how he's first discovered.

[CrappyTFhater]

If he is the mass & scale I described, he would certainly cause earthquakes, but I'm not sure about putting the planet out of orbit. It depends on how danger something that is 1.72% the size of the earth poses (assuming he's roughly equal to Cybertron, and the toy is close).

[WeirdGirlCyndi]

I was actually talking as if he were the size of Jupiter. Bigger can be scarier, though I admit it would be frigging cool to see 'your' version trample a planet. (I, for one, would not yell at him to GTFO my lawn). Jupiter is all gas and rotates fast to generate its gravity. In my imagination Unicron is roughly Jupiter's size. He'd have a lot more density. So my guess is he'd at least disturb the orbits of planets/asteroids/ocean tides.

Not arguing your logic, though, it DOES make sense. (cont)

[WeirdGirlCyndi]

I wish the canon wasn't so screwy about sizes. I've got to admit the only thing about Armada that annoyed me was Unicron being a moon. I always thought he was a galactic grim reaper, MASSIVE, since he, well, eats planets. He'd have to be bigger than most other planets to do that.

Here's a thought: in G1, wouldn't his grabbing the planets he's about to eat halt their rotation, thus throwing everything on them not tied down into space? I saw no debris fly off except where his pincers dug in.

[CrappyTFhater]

Sorry I didn't catch this note earlier; I found that a lot of views for this video come from a Deviant Art site, and then saw that whoever the photographer was not only loved Unicron, but wrote incredible short stories about him, and posted bits in some photos. These bits were so good I went through every photo looking to piece the stories together (I came up short). Today I looked again and noticed a description "In my writings, Unicron is the size of Jupiter" and thought "HEY! I know her!"

[BikerTrashWolf]

There was one fault in your logic only in basing the size of the floors in the command center on the size of king starscream is that the toy was oversized compaired to the characters size. As i recall on the show he was sized more to the same size as Cybertron prime, I think... but considering there are some other characters larger than him, 50' feet is actually probably pretty safe.

[CrappyTFhater]

Side Note: Crap my dumb-ass clicked remove instead of reply. I hope this shows up okay.

You are correct - in the series, Cybertron Starscream is a lot bigger in relation to the others - Super Mode Optimus Prime is only as big as his fist. In our Role-Playing Game the only toys that aren't to scale with the others are Unicron & Cybertron, to keep things simple, hence why I was only concerned with how he fit. Still, as you related, that means most Transformers would fit into the building.

[BikerTrashWolf]

Oh ok, so your senerio, the size of the figures in relation to each other is there true scale, not the size there where supposed to be in the show. That simplifies things alot.