no, the mustang won because the mustang is the faster car. foxes come with 220hp stock. h/c/i i gonna mean some BIG power on those. the ion wouldnt even compare...
You sure that's a Redline? I didn't hear any supercharger. Even with the stock intake you can still hear it. Just to put it out there, Saturn did make a 2.4 version of the Ion which had the Redline body kit but wasn't supercharged. Could that be what this Ion was in the vid?
Nice stang BTW... I am by no means a mustang fan, but 5.0 Mustangs are definitely a soft spot for me lol
LOL I have a '99 cobra(+basic mods exhaust, p/p intake, pulleys, 326 rwhp) and was VERY surprised by a some neon srt or something like it. I could hear his turbo blow-off. When the light turned green, I had him off the line but he stayed with me until the 2-3 shift. I started to pull away but not far or fast. If I had been stock he would have had me.
@jrlook777 Complete and utter ignorance mixed with hate, that's what this comment is..... Pull your head out of your ass, and realize that 5.0's are no joke. However, a 5.0 racing a bone stock Ion is like winning the Special Olympics.....
@AgentStyles ur awesome dude. Wish everyone else was cool about facts and not bash peoples cars and talk shit u know. its fun to talk but leats atleast talk fact's and yes if that was the case id take a fox body over that..with str8 pipes :)
@AgentStyles 86-93 only had 220-225 hp stock. 240 would be closer to what it had at the crank. The 86 wasn't bad, just the heads were goofy. Bump the timing and remove the sway bar on a fully stock 86-93 and you saw high 13's with the horrible 2.73 gearing. Grind the "smog bump" from the exhaust ports and you saw an added 20-25hp. Add 3.73's, 5 speed, re-worked heads, frame ties, lower control arms, street cam + exhaust and air filter and you're in the high 12's lo 13's with little money spent.
@AgentStyles stage 2 or 3 would leave that fox body in the dust. also if he had a harrop tvs on the ion lmao that mustang would not even want to race it
@regular009 i have a redline and u really cant hear the supercharger wine, but anyway u can tell he didnt downshift, the driver of the ion dosnt know how to properly race in a manual he just stomped it in whatever gear he was in, lol, im from the mentality that a manual of half the horses will spank an automatic if driven correctly
OMG Im not even gonna wait my time with this post. Typical rice talk. Power to weight BS... First off the STOCK mustang were 14 second cars SECONDLY, even if he was "bone stock" and had ONLY a set of 3.73 gears or 4.10's... it will still destroy the ION Why??? Because MUSTANGS SCREAMS WITH TOP END POWER AND MAKE MORE TORQUE THAN ANY 4/6CYL CAR DOES AT IDLE!! AND SCREW GAS MILeAGE, who buys a foxbody and wonders about gas mileage, pre00 - here's a formula: 2011 5.0 runs 9's Nitrous/stock!
The old Foxes were choked big time in the engine department. Ford could have gotten better fuel mileage and power had they used a better flowing H/C/I combo. My 2000 puts down 279hp/ 309 ft tq. and gets 33mpg highway AND is a balst to drive and doesnt wake the neighbors.
@ITRIEDEL Well then calculate 200.0 miles at 5.995 gallons. I kept it at 60mph the whole time. It comes to 33.36mpg. These cars can do it you just have to not drive like your hair is on fire. And I just realized i wrote "balst", I meant blast.
5.0 stock auto would run 15 or 16 in the 1/4 mile the ion is a high 14sec low 15sec car if it was a real race it would be alot closer even with those mods!? im not a pushrod kinda of guy i call bs!!
@grawfor Stock to Stock would be a closer race... But it doesn't take much to wake an old 5.0 up. So with the set up he has, Head Cam and Induction (not FI) on top of Exhaust. and whatever other mods he has which im sure he does.. this is prolly a legitimate race.
@ITRIEDEL Depends on who is driving. I have seen MANY run in the 14's... I never said it would BEAT the ion stock i simply said it would be a closer race. but it would definetly NOT destroy it lol
@grawfor What world do you live in? I've owned an '85 Mustang GT, an '87 LX 5.0 notch and a '91 LX 5.0 hatch. ALL were comfortably in the 14's with the fastest being the '87 LX which - in COMPLETELY STOCK form, with street tires - ran 14.18 @ 100 MPH.
@redd7188 In all honesty, my personal best was 14.23. My buddy ran the 14.18 and yes, he was a very skilled driver. Keep in mind that these were our best times. I ran 14.30 -14.50 for the majority of my runs as I experimented with different shift and launch points. Goodyear 'Gatorbacks' 225 60VR 15's! I heard, but never validated, that 'early production' '87 LX's (I had one of the very first!) came from the factory with more HP than later versions.
@ford1svt i'm not saying it can't be done i remember reading a hot rod mag that ran a 14.1 with an lx, im just use to seeing stock one's in the 14.5 to 14.8 range
5.4 engines are jokes. the 4.6 is also a joke unles you have the 4V. and even then its twice as much to build. you have 4 cams, twice the lifters. lol. too much. better off going SBC for V8 engine. cheaper and more badass. the 302 aint bad. my buddy has one that isnt insanely fast but shes fast enough to get your sdrenaline pumpin. i would prefer a car like that over a racecar anyday. i can cruise. she sounds good. cheaper on gas so i can drive more. and shes a gorgeous car.
"Fords 5.4L 4v eats Chevys and Dodges all day " your a dumbass.race teams across the US do not recommend building a 5.4 and highly disagree with stroking it. simply because the geometry creates to great a side load on the cylinders. if you want to add displacement to a 5.4 block, your going to have to sleeve it. suck that bitch. LS1 and LT1 will eat your ass anyday. and i dont recommend fucking with a big block mopar... your really fighting a losing battle with this 5.4 shit.
The Saturn never even tried to race... U would have heard the high pitch supercharger if it did and at least some engine noise from it! Not to mention u can just tell if u pay any attention at all... lol
IDK, the kid that lives in my town with his Saturn thinks it a Ricer. He's got a big ass wing on it and a fart pipe on a stock Sc2. Kinda screams asian. Even if its made by GM
idk man the 5.4 didnt take 5.7 all day...however wut cars ford put in the 5.4 and wut cars chevy put in the 5.7 dont really belong next 2 eachother in a comparison
@bergaflickal The only car Ford put it's 5.4 V8 engine in is the ShelbyGT500 'Stang. Although...I think, FoMoCo. should've put the 5.4 V8s in the Crown Vic's/Grand Marqs. or, atleast, gave it a shot for the Mercury Marauder! ;-)
@xxxk213 you think ford could only get 200 hp out of 5 liters, its just because of the oil crisis and shit, they had to pussify the engines a bit, nonetheless they are extremely cheap and easy to mod.
@superalex1988 Nobody else in the world gives a fuck about straight line acceleration. Its not even acknowledged as a motorsport anywhere else. So of course Americans are going to win that. We're the only ones playing. Lets see an American V8 get 100hp per liter. Oh... wait.... We can't do that. Why was BMW able to get more hp from a 3.2 than we could from a 4.6? Why can BMW get 5.0 and LS3 power from a 4.2? Porsche can get 435hp from a 3.8.... Shit... Honda can get 240hp from a 2.0.
@superalex1988 All the engines I listed are n/a. If you want to go forced induction... Porsche 911 GT2 gets 523hp out of a 3.6. 145 hp per liter. SS has 710 ft lb torque. thats 131 ft lb tq per liter. GT2 has 132.8 ft lb per liter. Not to mention the 0-60 or Nurburgring lap time for the GT2. And the Super Snake has Kenny Bell supercharger. I might as well drag a T88 supra making 888 WHEEL hp into this. 888/3.0=296 WHEEL hp per liter. Over 300 hp/liter at the crank.
@superalex1988 Techart Turbo is 2.9 0-60, 997 whp....not impressive from a tt V10. I can get that from a 3.0 Supra, the 1/4 is impressive but again... street supras can run 9's all day. Not to mention their (Viper's) rep for breaking down. The GT2 RS does the ring in 7:18 (top 5). Faster than the ACR/ZR1/GT.
I agree. but you realize that youre comparing Heavily modified supras to out of the box performance cars. i love Porsche. But youre comparing a car that was built to run on that track to cars built on the other side of the Atlantic... which by the way dont get terrible numbers at the Nurburgring...
PS. i grew up around toyotas... including supras. and i know the punch they pack. but i prefer the sound of a supercharged V8
@MangoSmoothie16 also might mention that v8's hold the fastest 1/4 mile time ever... o and that 2nd to the new SS vayron the ultimate aero tt is the worlds 2nd fastest production car in the world and it has a twin turbo v8 not a QUAD turbo W16... v8's are amazing and you have to admit that
@askloglog I'd rather have a 6 cylinder. From a Porsche. V8's are good for power. Power doesn't always win races off the strip. Like I said, nobody else gives a shit about 1/4 miles and top speed besides Americans. That's also why american cars have the quickest 1/4 mile times. If you really want to test a car, take it to Laguna Seca or the ring.
@askloglog What the fuck does a rolex car have to do with this? And that isn't a GT2 RS. Its a gutted GT3 basically. Corvette has a pretty nice hp advantage. GT2 RS beats ACR and ZR1 around the ring. Please keep going...
@MangoSmoothie16 ok so 1 porche in top 11 and 2 american cars using a v8 s/c and a v10 N/A... now mind you i like porches, sti's, skylines, and rx7s but that about it for imports... so i do give credit where credit is due, but those 2 american cars whether you like them or not deserve respect
@askloglog They do deserve credit. I give them credit. I compare the fastest and one of the best production Porsches against them. Because they are worthy opponents.
@MangoSmoothie16 your right... the zr1 and viper acr aren't fast at all around the Nurburgring you fag... corvetts beat porshas all day in road race in the grand am (rolex sports car) series... so why dont you shut your mouth
@MangoSmoothie16 Not true look at the 500 in Russia and they are running quarter miles in France now,if you dont know what you are talking about then keep it hush.
@camirocz So... 2 other countries that make no cars worth mentioning care about 1/4's too. Cool. Do you find 1/4's being popular in Britian, Italy, Germany or Japan?
@RocafellaAF1 i looked up the redline retard. fox bodies are the fugliest pieces of junk around. but once again the motor is decent for a ford. chev all the way
@myuzz it could but we Americans don't all run V8's the 2010 SHO runs a 12.10 on the 1/4 mile and thats a 4 door no imports can beat it and the only American car that can is the 2011 Mustang 5.0 GT!!!!!!so I'll say it again Imports are like TAMPONS every pussy needs one!!!!!!
im getting really sick of jap vs american debates why dont yall go out race in what you like and not brag or bitch please ffs you give all of us bad names. if you like import good for you if you like domestic good for you. personally i like import because i know they have better build quality. mustangs are slow v8 cars but are ment to be better for daily use then a trans am or camaro ss. ls1 and lt1 are ment for speed and power while the fords 4.9 is ment for decent acceleration and mileage.
I have never lost to a Mustang by the way, my 440hp AWD Talon TSI only has $1000 invested in it over stock to you jack ass Mustang driver, Just mad because your in the same class as rice burners, go put a wing on your shit can, only chevys and dodges are fast v8s not Ford.
@flamingaxe791 you my friend are very wrong or either blind, and yes i have seen john shepards car, very sick and fast but to say but to say fords are not fast...... bullshit im a ford man but i do not hate other cars pending on your wallet is how fast you will go. check out the cars that run in the NMRA and tell me that fords are slow or watch any pinks events and say they are slow. oh and if you have never lost to a mustang come on down to maryland i got 2 for you.
Fords 5.4L 4v eats Chevys and Dodges all day not to mention your Talon wouldn't stand a shitbangers chance in hell. I used to own a TSi Talon myself how much boost are you running on that thing? At one point I had mine running around 370HP and 340TQ but I blew the engine at those numbers. Horsepower sells cars Torque wins races.
@777laluna777 Raps that's a new one. Maybe if I were talking about eminem I would understand your point. I wish I lived in your world the 5.4L can take upwards of 800hp. That's on an almost stock block. Their are people running them at well over 1500hp, but what do I know. So 5.3 that makes 300hp 320lb-ft n/a. Your telling me it will "RAPS" a 5.4L 4v that makes 400hp n/a.
@EMHbelmonte o my bad i dont really study that word and i have both trucks i have a 5.4L ford and my 5.3L chevy leaves it in the dust with out no hustle and that ford its putting out 445hp wit 400lb-ft and my chevy wit 380hp with 350lb-ft both wit stock blocks i could make 800hp wit my chevy more easier than my ford numbers dont always count keep that in mind
@EMHbelmonte 5.4 doesnt shit chevys and dodges, MONEY does. no matter how fast your car is someone out there has one faster the more money you have usually the faster you can make a car
@normanaw Dude, so true. It's all about money. My uncle has a 600 horse ZO6 and talks crap daily about my 500 horse mustang. If I made 150K a year like him, my Mustang would be around 750-850 horses and I'd be talking crap. How fast do you want to go? How much money do you have? That's the answer.
@EMHbelmonte the 5.4 is a boat anchor! unless you throw a ton of boost at it or get a vaersion or sorts that comes in the $150 k GT then no! theres a reason why if you take a trip up to your local drag strip on any given night 75% (Im being generous) are cars ford, chrysler or whatever use chevy engines! most of your top fuel and major lagit single drag set ups all use chevy powerplants; why?? because theyre the most reliable, cost friendly, ease of operation and most of all MAKE THE BEST POWER!
@EMHbelmonte And yes..while I come from a ford family, I did decide to go chevy simply by the fact that they make GREAT power. I have mad love for fords still but the LS line of engines might be some of the best engines ever made..if you cant accept that then you belong on the moon!
@EMHbelmonte hahhahahahha your crackin my shit up with that 5.4 piece of shit get outta here dude you gotta deep pocket sure it will run but come play with my chevy i bet i got less than half the money you do in it and it runs better
@86cutlass1000 deep pocket? Ford's modular engine line is one of the cheapest and easiest to modify. my 4.6 is makin over 330hp and i've got a whopping $250 in parts. 50hp for $250. GM = Government Motors. Camaro? The car Government bailout money built.
@EMHbelmonte are you talking about the 5.4 pos on the ford trucks my friend has a 5.4 on his 04 and tries to keep up in my 06 silverado 5.3 flexfuel but fails misserably..... I only have flowmasters and a piece of shit intake its only the filter thats in and im gone after the first gear oh and im actually faster than a 6.0 vortecmax the new generation which have VVT i smoke hemis everyday and punk toyotas and nissans too but they never race me.....yes i also spank cars like the new gen. si
There seems to be some confusion on what I was talking about. The 5.4L 4v DOHC is not the engine in most Ford trucks. That engine is 5.4L 3v SOHC. The 4v DOHC is quad cammed and comes factory with around 100HP more than the 3v SOHC. Not to mention the fact that I swapped the 5.4L 4v out of a Lincon Navigator into my v6 Mustang. Took all summer to complete, and now it's snowing so she's in storage. Can I just say, I have respect for your trucks guys.
Not when modded. Simply by running a custom air intake I gained 40hp. I have aftermarket cams, heads, and a fully built exhaust system no power adders and am running 525hp 540ft lbs. Same mods on the 3v and I'd be at around 350-420hp tops.
@EMHbelmonte thats a lot of shit but i bet i can do the same mods on my silverado and outrun you without the same amount of horse power.......... with my piece of shit mods i out ran a 3500 cummins yesterday trying to keep up with me ahahhaha he was a guy from my work he told me my truck was too quick that he didnt expect me to stay away from him and im thinking about getting a real cold air intake and headers next or whatever mods are cheaper for now
@EMHbelmonte Hence why you go with a diesel :) Plenty of starting torque, just by a Detroit turbo and you will be fine! However, the 5.4 Ford can lick my ass. I would out a 440 6-Pack against that any day. Not to mention a 454 would smoke that shit too.
@larsen550 Not even close. I'm a HUGE MOPAR fan and a 440/6 wouldn't stand a chance against a 5.4L S/C. Look even a 426 Hemi would lose. Look at a Ford GT and Look at a Hemi Charger. Yeah different era, and different weights but look at numbers. 550HP and 500 ft lbs of trq for the 5.4L, the Hemi, probably close to 500 Hp and 500ft lbs of trq. The Ford GT would shit on any stock Hemi you threw at it.
@xLuckydemonx Really? I've seen a 440 personally smoke a 5.4L. Idk maybe it was just that rare instance but that's what I have seen. What era's are you talking? A Ford GT is this decade but a GT40 is the 60's... As for Hemi Charger, could be any era. Just confused a bit so specifying could help me understand more. I have always been a huge believe of the 440 6 pack but that's just me I guess. What are the advantages of the 5.4L over the 440?
@larsen550 the 440 is a beast but its N/A from the factory. The 5.4L on the other hand is S/C. So S/C = immediate power boost, usually int he 390-550HP range stock.
@EMHbelmonte you blew the engine because of your own ignorance, 4g63t bottom ends are good for over 1000hp with a good tune. your 5.4 4v probably also blows spark plugs out of the heads too. mike reichen owns an evo II with a 4g63t that makes over 1000whp and will do 237mph in a standing mile. 4g63t's are some of the best engine ever made whether you want to admit it or not
@EMHbelmonte were you crank or whp at 370? they can take a lot more than that, you probably just forgot to add something small, like stronger studs, or something large like a crap tune.
either way, the mustang in that video looked kinda slow. expected more out of a H/C/I combo.
Ions are pretty gay. I was offered one for trade. But not after seeing these videos. Slow as hell
incrdble23 1 week ago
the guy in the ion either didnt try or just cant drive.. he shudda dusted a stock 5.0
jakeroykite 1 month ago
SUCKS TO BE WHO DRIVING THE Saturn ion redline (supercharged)
BROWNBYHONOR13 2 months ago
no, the mustang won because the mustang is the faster car. foxes come with 220hp stock. h/c/i i gonna mean some BIG power on those. the ion wouldnt even compare...
aiminglow 2 months ago
You sure that's a Redline? I didn't hear any supercharger. Even with the stock intake you can still hear it. Just to put it out there, Saturn did make a 2.4 version of the Ion which had the Redline body kit but wasn't supercharged. Could that be what this Ion was in the vid?
Nice stang BTW... I am by no means a mustang fan, but 5.0 Mustangs are definitely a soft spot for me lol
SuperAndroid17 3 months ago
@SuperAndroid17 I agree. I have a Redline and it's pretty loud. You couldn't even hear the whine of the supercharger.
Chaaazz2008 2 months ago
i raced a tercel in my 5.0
it wasnt really a race
juniorcarlover 3 months ago
There was no competition! Beautiful Mustang if I might add
iceman3280 3 months ago
Lmao and the 5.0 was auto too... 5.0 4 life!!
texasdcp 4 months ago
Lol.... Um what did you think was going to happen?
WRXmayyyne 4 months ago
LOL I have a '99 cobra(+basic mods exhaust, p/p intake, pulleys, 326 rwhp) and was VERY surprised by a some neon srt or something like it. I could hear his turbo blow-off. When the light turned green, I had him off the line but he stayed with me until the 2-3 shift. I started to pull away but not far or fast. If I had been stock he would have had me.
macq1 4 months ago
lol was anyone really surprised by this?
iCtrlAltAssault 5 months ago 5
HAHAHAHAHA awesome...!!!
highvelocity123 6 months ago
5.0 is a Joke
jrlook777 6 months ago
@jrlook777 Complete and utter ignorance mixed with hate, that's what this comment is..... Pull your head out of your ass, and realize that 5.0's are no joke. However, a 5.0 racing a bone stock Ion is like winning the Special Olympics.....
smallfry0764 6 months ago
@jrlook777
your a joke.......
TheTrailblazer78 5 months ago
@jrlook777 your mom
bluegumproductions 5 months ago
walked
yonkersracing 6 months ago
These cars are only good off of the line and low end torque. That Mustang is N/a. No shit who was going to win. lmao
Cripton805 6 months ago
@Cripton805 Its supercharged not turbo, superchargers make boost off idle.
brosnan509 6 months ago
@brosnan509 thats what I said... the Mustang is N/a. And that Ion is good low end off of the line.
Cripton805 6 months ago
ahahaha fucking funny video ahahah fucking died im fucking ripped as fuck
0mfgitzBiafor3 6 months ago
@AgentStyles ur awesome dude. Wish everyone else was cool about facts and not bash peoples cars and talk shit u know. its fun to talk but leats atleast talk fact's and yes if that was the case id take a fox body over that..with str8 pipes :)
cutegumbygurl 6 months ago
That was a dumb race
markkuz23 6 months ago
@AgentStyles 86-93 only had 220-225 hp stock. 240 would be closer to what it had at the crank. The 86 wasn't bad, just the heads were goofy. Bump the timing and remove the sway bar on a fully stock 86-93 and you saw high 13's with the horrible 2.73 gearing. Grind the "smog bump" from the exhaust ports and you saw an added 20-25hp. Add 3.73's, 5 speed, re-worked heads, frame ties, lower control arms, street cam + exhaust and air filter and you're in the high 12's lo 13's with little money spent.
CarpathianCarl 6 months ago
Thank god. The horn honking always seems so gay and I was expecting the worse :( Nice Pony!
CarpathianCarl 6 months ago
@AgentStyles lol thanks for not taking the comment wrong..and laughing about it wish more people did that lol
cutegumbygurl 7 months ago
@AgentStyles stage 2 or 3 would leave that fox body in the dust. also if he had a harrop tvs on the ion lmao that mustang would not even want to race it
cutegumbygurl 7 months ago
ions are slow. ive never been beat by one.
stangman1993 7 months ago
I love my 95 GT 5.0 convertible :D
MsDallasRedhead 7 months ago
what the fuck was that? Video should be called mustang vs self
SovietRambo 7 months ago
ion def didnt hit the gas at all the camera didnt move
99gsrVTECintegra 7 months ago
Ion got shat on
whiteyonwelfare 7 months ago
mustang won because the ion driver didnt even try he never hit the accelerator or you would have heard a supercharger whine
regular009 7 months ago 4
@regular009 i have a redline and u really cant hear the supercharger wine, but anyway u can tell he didnt downshift, the driver of the ion dosnt know how to properly race in a manual he just stomped it in whatever gear he was in, lol, im from the mentality that a manual of half the horses will spank an automatic if driven correctly
SFuga7777777 2 months ago
@regular009 Not necessarily, it's probably a pretty small supercharger and you might not have been able to hear it over the mustangs exhaust.
pixmsg 2 months ago
@regular009 ummm... not if its bone stock, not to mention there is a v8.
mickeydiesel 2 months ago
saturn ion is a bitch car
Drumz4life22491 7 months ago
was the ion even trying?
gFk2cold 8 months ago
quitest supercharger I've ever heard
Chevyguy2003 9 months ago
OMG Im not even gonna wait my time with this post. Typical rice talk. Power to weight BS... First off the STOCK mustang were 14 second cars SECONDLY, even if he was "bone stock" and had ONLY a set of 3.73 gears or 4.10's... it will still destroy the ION Why??? Because MUSTANGS SCREAMS WITH TOP END POWER AND MAKE MORE TORQUE THAN ANY 4/6CYL CAR DOES AT IDLE!! AND SCREW GAS MILeAGE, who buys a foxbody and wonders about gas mileage, pre00 - here's a formula: 2011 5.0 runs 9's Nitrous/stock!
stangredemption 10 months ago
The old Foxes were choked big time in the engine department. Ford could have gotten better fuel mileage and power had they used a better flowing H/C/I combo. My 2000 puts down 279hp/ 309 ft tq. and gets 33mpg highway AND is a balst to drive and doesnt wake the neighbors.
Floordford 10 months ago
@Floordford.... u dont get 33mpg on the highway...only in ur dreams...
ITRIEDEL 10 months ago 2
@ITRIEDEL Well then calculate 200.0 miles at 5.995 gallons. I kept it at 60mph the whole time. It comes to 33.36mpg. These cars can do it you just have to not drive like your hair is on fire. And I just realized i wrote "balst", I meant blast.
Floordford 9 months ago
@Floordford " drive like your hair is on fire" thats the funniest shit I've heard in a while. Maybe it's just me but, thanks for the laugh.
disasterbydesign 9 months ago
hahaha greasy bastard in the mustang
kylostyles 10 months ago
here's a scientific formula for you morons: FORD SUCKS NO MATTER WHAT/525352GFY
Pre00 10 months ago
@Pre00 they do? oi guess that explains y there on top and y this 5.0 beat the redline
adcstmh 10 months ago
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@Pre00 they do? guess that explains y there on top and y this 5.0 beat the redline
adcstmh 10 months ago
He won because of less weight....he had no shirt on
MysticDMBherb 11 months ago 42
@MysticDMBherb maybe because he was racing a saturn lmao
SuperBrandango 7 months ago
the 5.0 is a legend
kingnick022 11 months ago 42
@kingnick022
Notice everyone on the street takes HUGE pride when they beat a "5.O" stock or not
superalex1988 8 months ago
@kingnick022 So is your mom's vagina
zapatos123123 6 months ago
@kingnick022 Not when it beats Saturns...
JustShutUpNWatch 5 months ago
5.0 stock auto would run 15 or 16 in the 1/4 mile the ion is a high 14sec low 15sec car if it was a real race it would be alot closer even with those mods!? im not a pushrod kinda of guy i call bs!!
grawfor 11 months ago
@grawfor Stock to Stock would be a closer race... But it doesn't take much to wake an old 5.0 up. So with the set up he has, Head Cam and Induction (not FI) on top of Exhaust. and whatever other mods he has which im sure he does.. this is prolly a legitimate race.
reverseoreo08 10 months ago
@reverseoreo08 stock for stock the ion would destory it...those fox's stock were 15 second cars
ITRIEDEL 10 months ago
@ITRIEDEL Depends on who is driving. I have seen MANY run in the 14's... I never said it would BEAT the ion stock i simply said it would be a closer race. but it would definetly NOT destroy it lol
reverseoreo08 10 months ago
@ITRIEDEL - My completely stock 1987 LX 5.0 notch ran 14.18 @ 100 back in the day with 225 HP at the crank.
ford1svt 9 months ago
@grawfor What world do you live in? I've owned an '85 Mustang GT, an '87 LX 5.0 notch and a '91 LX 5.0 hatch. ALL were comfortably in the 14's with the fastest being the '87 LX which - in COMPLETELY STOCK form, with street tires - ran 14.18 @ 100 MPH.
ford1svt 9 months ago
@ford1svt a 14.1 on stock tires? i can sewe this on stickies but stock, you must be a skilled driver
redd7188 9 months ago
@redd7188 In all honesty, my personal best was 14.23. My buddy ran the 14.18 and yes, he was a very skilled driver. Keep in mind that these were our best times. I ran 14.30 -14.50 for the majority of my runs as I experimented with different shift and launch points. Goodyear 'Gatorbacks' 225 60VR 15's! I heard, but never validated, that 'early production' '87 LX's (I had one of the very first!) came from the factory with more HP than later versions.
ford1svt 9 months ago
@ford1svt i'm not saying it can't be done i remember reading a hot rod mag that ran a 14.1 with an lx, im just use to seeing stock one's in the 14.5 to 14.8 range
redd7188 9 months ago
@grawfor read the discription, it clearly says that this 5.0 has heads, cam and intake
redd7188 9 months ago
@redd7188 yeah its a nice 5.0 but im not sure about the race. that has to have a really nice cam and the the ion driver sucks..
grawfor 9 months ago
@grawfor the 5.0 also has a 2x larger engine
onthewingshot 8 months ago
i knew that was gonna happen FORD!!!
coreyhess1 11 months ago
5.4 engines are jokes. the 4.6 is also a joke unles you have the 4V. and even then its twice as much to build. you have 4 cams, twice the lifters. lol. too much. better off going SBC for V8 engine. cheaper and more badass. the 302 aint bad. my buddy has one that isnt insanely fast but shes fast enough to get your sdrenaline pumpin. i would prefer a car like that over a racecar anyday. i can cruise. she sounds good. cheaper on gas so i can drive more. and shes a gorgeous car.
ghettosmirnoff 11 months ago
"Fords 5.4L 4v eats Chevys and Dodges all day " your a dumbass.race teams across the US do not recommend building a 5.4 and highly disagree with stroking it. simply because the geometry creates to great a side load on the cylinders. if you want to add displacement to a 5.4 block, your going to have to sleeve it. suck that bitch. LS1 and LT1 will eat your ass anyday. and i dont recommend fucking with a big block mopar... your really fighting a losing battle with this 5.4 shit.
ghettosmirnoff 1 year ago
The Saturn never even tried to race... U would have heard the high pitch supercharger if it did and at least some engine noise from it! Not to mention u can just tell if u pay any attention at all... lol
kywildcats84 1 year ago 2
This race sure had expected results. lol
electricshockproof 1 year ago
Yeah and that's when u put a built 408ci ford in this fox body and smoke ever fucking car on the road!! Dumb asses
m69ortiz 1 year ago
Peace of shitbro
MR90FOXBODY 1 year ago
i am a mustang fan and i saw a talon beat a supercharged cobra the vid is on youtube
gustavrdz 1 year ago
am i the only one here that realized the saturn never raced? all it was was some ugly hillbilly in a 5.0 that dropped gear after honking his horn.
papasmurf1086 1 year ago
wat a puss racing a saaturn lmao
tchanthakho91 1 year ago
Don't be hatin on all 4bangers , i have a Ford escort GT and i kicked a camaros ass up and down the road
MrMustangFan1 1 year ago
white trash in the mustang.....hahahaha
kylostyles 1 year ago
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Saturn sucks :p
jibnayman9999 1 year ago
Saturn sucks :p
jibnayman9999 1 year ago
Nice 5.0! I bet it does well from a dig.
Mach1Spd 1 year ago
Dang this video sucks. My redline beat my friends 5.0 fox body stang, and a 2004 gt when my car was still stock.
7400rpm 1 year ago
IDK, the kid that lives in my town with his Saturn thinks it a Ricer. He's got a big ass wing on it and a fart pipe on a stock Sc2. Kinda screams asian. Even if its made by GM
91slownotch 1 year ago
@91slownotch it was supposed to compete with imports, so yeah. lol
pepene93 1 year ago
idk man the 5.4 didnt take 5.7 all day...however wut cars ford put in the 5.4 and wut cars chevy put in the 5.7 dont really belong next 2 eachother in a comparison
bergaflickal 1 year ago
@bergaflickal The only car Ford put it's 5.4 V8 engine in is the ShelbyGT500 'Stang. Although...I think, FoMoCo. should've put the 5.4 V8s in the Crown Vic's/Grand Marqs. or, atleast, gave it a shot for the Mercury Marauder! ;-)
BklynJayL 1 year ago
@BklynJayL you for got ford gt
default919 1 year ago
@default919 Not really. I was going to say the FordGT, also...but, FoMoCo. dosen't make those cars, anymore(although...I wish, they did)! Lol.. ;-)
BklynJayL 1 year ago
That kid looks goofy.
Xboxlivemgear 1 year ago
those old mustangs had 5.0 liters with like 200hp. american fails at engineering lol.
xxxk213 1 year ago
@xxxk213 nope. insurance purposes. saves money. thank you america.........a new set of H/C/I and you see a good gain.
TheBopop 1 year ago
@xxxk213 they were also mid eighties early 90s dude nothing had high hp....honda was lucky 2 break 100 on their si models
bergaflickal 1 year ago
@xxxk213 you think ford could only get 200 hp out of 5 liters, its just because of the oil crisis and shit, they had to pussify the engines a bit, nonetheless they are extremely cheap and easy to mod.
crabpeoples 1 year ago
@xxxk213
225 horsepower was decent in the eighties...
2011 has that new 5.0 Mudstain running high 12's stock on street tires. let see your NON american car do that
superalex1988 8 months ago
@superalex1988 Nobody else in the world gives a fuck about straight line acceleration. Its not even acknowledged as a motorsport anywhere else. So of course Americans are going to win that. We're the only ones playing. Lets see an American V8 get 100hp per liter. Oh... wait.... We can't do that. Why was BMW able to get more hp from a 3.2 than we could from a 4.6? Why can BMW get 5.0 and LS3 power from a 4.2? Porsche can get 435hp from a 3.8.... Shit... Honda can get 240hp from a 2.0.
MangoSmoothie16 8 months ago
@MangoSmoothie16
Yup. some of which use forced induction.
the Shelby super snake produces 750hp out of a 5.4 if you wanna go that route.
that's 139hp per liter..
now look at their torque numbers and tell me you're still impressed.
superalex1988 8 months ago
@superalex1988 All the engines I listed are n/a. If you want to go forced induction... Porsche 911 GT2 gets 523hp out of a 3.6. 145 hp per liter. SS has 710 ft lb torque. thats 131 ft lb tq per liter. GT2 has 132.8 ft lb per liter. Not to mention the 0-60 or Nurburgring lap time for the GT2. And the Super Snake has Kenny Bell supercharger. I might as well drag a T88 supra making 888 WHEEL hp into this. 888/3.0=296 WHEEL hp per liter. Over 300 hp/liter at the crank.
MangoSmoothie16 8 months ago
@MangoSmoothie16
we might as well bring a hennessy viper into this.
superalex1988 8 months ago
@superalex1988 Techart Turbo is 2.9 0-60, 997 whp....not impressive from a tt V10. I can get that from a 3.0 Supra, the 1/4 is impressive but again... street supras can run 9's all day. Not to mention their (Viper's) rep for breaking down. The GT2 RS does the ring in 7:18 (top 5). Faster than the ACR/ZR1/GT.
MangoSmoothie16 8 months ago
@MangoSmoothie16
I agree. but you realize that youre comparing Heavily modified supras to out of the box performance cars. i love Porsche. But youre comparing a car that was built to run on that track to cars built on the other side of the Atlantic... which by the way dont get terrible numbers at the Nurburgring...
PS. i grew up around toyotas... including supras. and i know the punch they pack. but i prefer the sound of a supercharged V8
superalex1988 8 months ago
@superalex1988 I still like the Ford GT and the ACR is pretty impressive.
MangoSmoothie16 8 months ago
@MangoSmoothie16
ANDDD the ZR1.... =]
superalex1988 8 months ago
@MangoSmoothie16 also might mention that v8's hold the fastest 1/4 mile time ever... o and that 2nd to the new SS vayron the ultimate aero tt is the worlds 2nd fastest production car in the world and it has a twin turbo v8 not a QUAD turbo W16... v8's are amazing and you have to admit that
askloglog 8 months ago
@askloglog I'd rather have a 6 cylinder. From a Porsche. V8's are good for power. Power doesn't always win races off the strip. Like I said, nobody else gives a shit about 1/4 miles and top speed besides Americans. That's also why american cars have the quickest 1/4 mile times. If you really want to test a car, take it to Laguna Seca or the ring.
MangoSmoothie16 8 months ago
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askloglog 8 months ago
@askloglog What the fuck does a rolex car have to do with this? And that isn't a GT2 RS. Its a gutted GT3 basically. Corvette has a pretty nice hp advantage. GT2 RS beats ACR and ZR1 around the ring. Please keep going...
MangoSmoothie16 8 months ago
@MangoSmoothie16 ok so 1 porche in top 11 and 2 american cars using a v8 s/c and a v10 N/A... now mind you i like porches, sti's, skylines, and rx7s but that about it for imports... so i do give credit where credit is due, but those 2 american cars whether you like them or not deserve respect
askloglog 8 months ago
@askloglog They do deserve credit. I give them credit. I compare the fastest and one of the best production Porsches against them. Because they are worthy opponents.
MangoSmoothie16 8 months ago
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@MangoSmoothie16 your right... the zr1 and viper acr aren't fast at all around the Nurburgring you fag... corvetts beat porshas all day in road race in the grand am (rolex sports car) series... so why dont you shut your mouth
askloglog 8 months ago
@MangoSmoothie16 Not true look at the 500 in Russia and they are running quarter miles in France now,if you dont know what you are talking about then keep it hush.
camirocz 8 months ago
@camirocz So... 2 other countries that make no cars worth mentioning care about 1/4's too. Cool. Do you find 1/4's being popular in Britian, Italy, Germany or Japan?
MangoSmoothie16 8 months ago
5.4 eats one thing shit a gm 5.7 is the thing to build not some ford shit bird motor if i wanted to play with a go cart ill drag mine out of the barn
MotorTalksBSWalks 1 year ago
Ewwww that was just plain ugly...boy got smoked...leave the v8 to the men..boys enjoy your toys..
greekooo3 1 year ago
was the honk nessicary
cal540 1 year ago
thats right asian shit cant beat the good old ameriican 5.0
ACLongboard 1 year ago
@ACLongboard lol asian....if you are talking about the saturn it is a gm american made car
antonioar21 1 year ago
@ACLongboard What's Asian about the Saturn?
Stickman53fe 1 year ago
Im not a huge fan of saturn, but i really truely hate Mustang fanboi's, worse than civic fanboi's even. and i HATE civics.
p10ghost 1 year ago
why buy a stang in automatic, especially the 5.0? ugh
speacialperson12345 1 year ago
@speacialperson12345 ...excuse me both my mustang were equiped with 4r70w's..and I enjoyed the fuck out of them..6 & 8
greekooo3 1 year ago
@greekooo3 i hate automatic
speacialperson12345 1 year ago
dnt fuck with the 5 0
wowwow7777777 1 year ago
owned
mikewashere01 1 year ago
this kids gettin some pussy!
Fu113r420 1 year ago
i know the mustang is loud... but to not hear the supercharger from the ion at all.... i dunno...
silfocus84 1 year ago
5.0 was a good motor, but that is the ugliest mustang ever made.
bjsniffitproductions 1 year ago
@bjsniffitproductions Your Mother Is the ugliest Bitch ever Spawned By the Devil Himself. y u looking at the video then or searching for the Car.
RocafellaAF1 1 year ago
@RocafellaAF1 i looked up the redline retard. fox bodies are the fugliest pieces of junk around. but once again the motor is decent for a ford. chev all the way
bjsniffitproductions 1 year ago
lol I saw the title of this video and had to laugh. It wasnt a mystery who was gonna win this race.
73mathesar 1 year ago
automatic haha wow
skateMe12345 1 year ago
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that was really funny! why would you even try to race a mustang in a car like that!
MustangCobra22 1 year ago
@twistedbird I don't know if you knew this but saturns aren't really "imports".
LowKeyYingYang 1 year ago
thats wat u call AMERICAN MUSCLE
SuperTrey1234 1 year ago
The saturn just needs to drop a pulley size and get a tune, and it will beat that mustang and most others out there.
7400rpm 1 year ago
HAHAHAHA
freebirdE5 1 year ago
Two slow a shit cars
cmigneco 1 year ago
@cmigneco sounds like you got wasted by both these cars...
LordSamuelJ 1 year ago
no shit
shaqattack13 1 year ago
Imports are like TAMPONS every pussy needs one!!!!!!!
twistedtbird 1 year ago
@twistedtbird same could easily be said for V8's :)
myuzz 1 year ago
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@myuzz it could but we Americans don't all run V8's the 2010 SHO runs a 12.10 on the 1/4 mile and thats a 4 door no imports can beat it and the only American car that can is the 2011 Mustang 5.0 GT!!!!!!so I'll say it again Imports are like TAMPONS every pussy needs one!!!!!!
twistedtbird 1 year ago
im getting really sick of jap vs american debates why dont yall go out race in what you like and not brag or bitch please ffs you give all of us bad names. if you like import good for you if you like domestic good for you. personally i like import because i know they have better build quality. mustangs are slow v8 cars but are ment to be better for daily use then a trans am or camaro ss. ls1 and lt1 are ment for speed and power while the fords 4.9 is ment for decent acceleration and mileage.
xxxmillerxxx 1 year ago
That mustang wasted some good gas trying to prove something the whole world knows,
olverafam 1 year ago
that is not vs. a saturn ion...lol this is only a video of the mustang.
butterflywingsofwind 1 year ago
damn, I thought the saturn was going to win................(insert sarcasm here)
havinthangs55 1 year ago
im not a scientist but i the that the neuton theory states thats you just got served lol
Loverofallhorses 1 year ago 6
I have never lost to a Mustang by the way, my 440hp AWD Talon TSI only has $1000 invested in it over stock to you jack ass Mustang driver, Just mad because your in the same class as rice burners, go put a wing on your shit can, only chevys and dodges are fast v8s not Ford.
flamingaxe791 1 year ago
@flamingaxe791 you my friend are very wrong or either blind, and yes i have seen john shepards car, very sick and fast but to say but to say fords are not fast...... bullshit im a ford man but i do not hate other cars pending on your wallet is how fast you will go. check out the cars that run in the NMRA and tell me that fords are slow or watch any pinks events and say they are slow. oh and if you have never lost to a mustang come on down to maryland i got 2 for you.
bnuts677 1 year ago
@flamingaxe791
Fords 5.4L 4v eats Chevys and Dodges all day not to mention your Talon wouldn't stand a shitbangers chance in hell. I used to own a TSi Talon myself how much boost are you running on that thing? At one point I had mine running around 370HP and 340TQ but I blew the engine at those numbers. Horsepower sells cars Torque wins races.
EMHbelmonte 1 year ago 14
@EMHbelmonte fuck no 5.3 vortec raps ford a 5.3 even kills a 6.0 silverado ss
777laluna777 1 year ago
@777laluna777 Raps that's a new one. Maybe if I were talking about eminem I would understand your point. I wish I lived in your world the 5.4L can take upwards of 800hp. That's on an almost stock block. Their are people running them at well over 1500hp, but what do I know. So 5.3 that makes 300hp 320lb-ft n/a. Your telling me it will "RAPS" a 5.4L 4v that makes 400hp n/a.
EMHbelmonte 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte o my bad i dont really study that word and i have both trucks i have a 5.4L ford and my 5.3L chevy leaves it in the dust with out no hustle and that ford its putting out 445hp wit 400lb-ft and my chevy wit 380hp with 350lb-ft both wit stock blocks i could make 800hp wit my chevy more easier than my ford numbers dont always count keep that in mind
777laluna777 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte 5.4 doesnt shit chevys and dodges, MONEY does. no matter how fast your car is someone out there has one faster the more money you have usually the faster you can make a car
normanaw 1 year ago
@normanaw Dude, so true. It's all about money. My uncle has a 600 horse ZO6 and talks crap daily about my 500 horse mustang. If I made 150K a year like him, my Mustang would be around 750-850 horses and I'd be talking crap. How fast do you want to go? How much money do you have? That's the answer.
Stickman53fe 1 year ago
5.4 are's a joke, unless they are fully built they can barely muster a sub 8 second 0-60
laintime 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte "Horsepower sells cars Torque wins races." true words my friend! my golf tdi's is more than you'd expect.
davenowood 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte carol shelby quote nice
TheBopop 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte the 5.4 is a boat anchor! unless you throw a ton of boost at it or get a vaersion or sorts that comes in the $150 k GT then no! theres a reason why if you take a trip up to your local drag strip on any given night 75% (Im being generous) are cars ford, chrysler or whatever use chevy engines! most of your top fuel and major lagit single drag set ups all use chevy powerplants; why?? because theyre the most reliable, cost friendly, ease of operation and most of all MAKE THE BEST POWER!
moses1467 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte And yes..while I come from a ford family, I did decide to go chevy simply by the fact that they make GREAT power. I have mad love for fords still but the LS line of engines might be some of the best engines ever made..if you cant accept that then you belong on the moon!
moses1467 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte 5.4 beats 5.3's? i got different stories, but ok
jp198780 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte
u seem to forget power to wieght ratio... If your ever in NC or VA... come by n see the lil red s10.
thestrokeds10 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte uhm, the 6.0 vortec has more hp and tq than the 5.4....
blazinloud 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte hahhahahahha your crackin my shit up with that 5.4 piece of shit get outta here dude you gotta deep pocket sure it will run but come play with my chevy i bet i got less than half the money you do in it and it runs better
86cutlass1000 1 year ago
@86cutlass1000 deep pocket? Ford's modular engine line is one of the cheapest and easiest to modify. my 4.6 is makin over 330hp and i've got a whopping $250 in parts. 50hp for $250. GM = Government Motors. Camaro? The car Government bailout money built.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte are you talking about the 5.4 pos on the ford trucks my friend has a 5.4 on his 04 and tries to keep up in my 06 silverado 5.3 flexfuel but fails misserably..... I only have flowmasters and a piece of shit intake its only the filter thats in and im gone after the first gear oh and im actually faster than a 6.0 vortecmax the new generation which have VVT i smoke hemis everyday and punk toyotas and nissans too but they never race me.....yes i also spank cars like the new gen. si
GGGGGGGTHEBEST7 1 year ago
@GGGGGGGTHEBEST7
There seems to be some confusion on what I was talking about. The 5.4L 4v DOHC is not the engine in most Ford trucks. That engine is 5.4L 3v SOHC. The 4v DOHC is quad cammed and comes factory with around 100HP more than the 3v SOHC. Not to mention the fact that I swapped the 5.4L 4v out of a Lincon Navigator into my v6 Mustang. Took all summer to complete, and now it's snowing so she's in storage. Can I just say, I have respect for your trucks guys.
EMHbelmonte 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte they have the same amount of hp
GGGGGGGTHEBEST7 1 year ago
@GGGGGGGTHEBEST7
Not when modded. Simply by running a custom air intake I gained 40hp. I have aftermarket cams, heads, and a fully built exhaust system no power adders and am running 525hp 540ft lbs. Same mods on the 3v and I'd be at around 350-420hp tops.
EMHbelmonte 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte thats a lot of shit but i bet i can do the same mods on my silverado and outrun you without the same amount of horse power.......... with my piece of shit mods i out ran a 3500 cummins yesterday trying to keep up with me ahahhaha he was a guy from my work he told me my truck was too quick that he didnt expect me to stay away from him and im thinking about getting a real cold air intake and headers next or whatever mods are cheaper for now
GGGGGGGTHEBEST7 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte Hence why you go with a diesel :) Plenty of starting torque, just by a Detroit turbo and you will be fine! However, the 5.4 Ford can lick my ass. I would out a 440 6-Pack against that any day. Not to mention a 454 would smoke that shit too.
larsen550 1 year ago
@larsen550 Not even close. I'm a HUGE MOPAR fan and a 440/6 wouldn't stand a chance against a 5.4L S/C. Look even a 426 Hemi would lose. Look at a Ford GT and Look at a Hemi Charger. Yeah different era, and different weights but look at numbers. 550HP and 500 ft lbs of trq for the 5.4L, the Hemi, probably close to 500 Hp and 500ft lbs of trq. The Ford GT would shit on any stock Hemi you threw at it.
xLuckydemonx 1 year ago
@xLuckydemonx Really? I've seen a 440 personally smoke a 5.4L. Idk maybe it was just that rare instance but that's what I have seen. What era's are you talking? A Ford GT is this decade but a GT40 is the 60's... As for Hemi Charger, could be any era. Just confused a bit so specifying could help me understand more. I have always been a huge believe of the 440 6 pack but that's just me I guess. What are the advantages of the 5.4L over the 440?
larsen550 1 year ago
@larsen550 the 440 is a beast but its N/A from the factory. The 5.4L on the other hand is S/C. So S/C = immediate power boost, usually int he 390-550HP range stock.
xLuckydemonx 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte you blew the engine because of your own ignorance, 4g63t bottom ends are good for over 1000hp with a good tune. your 5.4 4v probably also blows spark plugs out of the heads too. mike reichen owns an evo II with a 4g63t that makes over 1000whp and will do 237mph in a standing mile. 4g63t's are some of the best engine ever made whether you want to admit it or not
savagexhaley14 1 year ago
@EMHbelmonte tha'ts y u buy and FBODY
kibZ28 11 months ago
@EMHbelmonte were you crank or whp at 370? they can take a lot more than that, you probably just forgot to add something small, like stronger studs, or something large like a crap tune.
either way, the mustang in that video looked kinda slow. expected more out of a H/C/I combo.
03basesedan 11 months ago