Near Frame Perfect Snakedashing

[mrgoukimaster]

Can I do this with the wiimote sideways?

[shadowofchaos41]

how do you do this I can only do it when I hit someone. Someone plz get back to me I have been trying this for months

[Messuduppotatoasia]

It's called DACUS. You don't have to face the ledge you know.

[Zjiin]

@Messuduppotatoasia Thanks. It's good to be taught something about a video probably older than your copy of brawl.

[Gimpyfish62]

@Zjiin lol +1

[Aberusugi]

This is why jumping before doing technical moves is important. It gives you one more input to buffer, the starting input to the tech. It's how everyone cancels falco's short hop with an illusion so quickly, out of the buffer window from landing off a jump.

[starboardman]

duuuude what is that jaaazy awesome song?

[Dyrui13]

i agree dude i want this song

[5k4k1dhtp]

I don't understand what I am seeing here.

[BloodFeather]

Please direct all your questions about doing the snakedash to my good friend PsychoMidget. Here can be found at:

AllisBrawlcom

[rhrp25]

:0

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[chikeedoo]

man this shit is hard! and dont got the time either. this is why everybody uses metaknight because he is the strongest EASIEST to use.

[wyleepirate]

DACUS with snake is one of the easiest AT's out there, its difficulty is similar to that of wavedashing in melee.

IE, if you have hands and half a brain you can DACUS.

[unicasatan]

you mean cheapest?

[galazprietof]

1.- Run

2.- Perfom a Roll Attack using C-Stick

3.- Press UP + Z button (With GameCube Controller)

[Panther00700]

if you mean solo Wii mote, it might just be possible with motion smashing. for Wii remote+nunchuck you can set one of your arrow buttons to do an up smash in order to do it.

[RayOxide]

Seems like its only to the edge.

[GAMEELO]

how you do it i can only do it when hitting someone help XD

[JsBlaze5]

no wii-mote sucks with snake u must use the gc controller and it makes snake move faster and egde-gaurding

[martyrville]

no its just all you guys played melee with with the gc controller so your better with it. i never had a gc. i owned all my friends with the n64 then last christmas i got a wii and brawl. i HAD to use the wii mote. so i got good with the wii mote. its not complicated.

[JsBlaze5]

i never played melee until this year on the wii i never owned a gamecube so thats not true i just like pads over that trash wii mote i quit brawl cuz no one can beat me and they took it away from evo so im done with the game

[BloodFeather]

no one can beat u in baarwl hm? =) you sure about that cuz for being so pro ur still an unknown random guy who claims hes good which he probably is not.

[JsBlaze5]

im really good i was undefeated in ATL i just have a lot of other games that i play where i dont care but if u was talking good money u'll see me there

[troidberg]

I had Melee but i used Wiimote and Nun. it's not complicated but it wastes so much batteries.

[VWTDI92]

@troidberg I use rechargeable ones for my wavebird and my wiimote.

[JsBlaze5]

who cant do that any good snake can

[xX20AxFreedomx]

My friend and I are pros at Snake, but who said we could do it? I can do it, but he can't.

[JsBlaze5]

its really not hard at all i learn how to do that shit in 2 hours with no frames and i learned to motor slide in like 5mins

[IrishChief257]

I find the easiest way to do this is to dive by hitting the c-stick to the side as lightly as possible, then hitting it up immediately.

[sim288]

Anyone know of a way to practice snakedashing without contact? I use the GCN controller, thanks.

[vikings494]

i use the wii remote nunchuck and i can really winn some matches..the GCN controller users are good but if you can do good at both. your better. im better at wii remote nunchuck though

[mrturk15]

Did you know that Nintendo themselves actually recommended the Gamecube controller for veterans of the series?

[butheav54]

thats pretty cool how you do that ill try that some time

[sim288]

Yay! i can finally pull this off upon hitting an opponent. Now i need to learn how to do it when not hitting anyone.

[SilvrBrawl]

Hmm, DAC is only vital, to mainly snake!

I tried doing it, frusteration lol.

You probably won't even want to try it with anyone else.

[TF2274]

1. how do you access the debug mode

2. try snake dashing on the temples lower platform i know just by this video you can easily do it

[Zjiin]

I have no idea how to access the debug mode yet, but yes, i can do it on the little platform on the bottom of temple.

[zetakon]

@Zjiin now do it with shiek,

[HondaRulzz4]

will it work with the wiimote with nunchunk?

[Dugaru327]

It doesn't. Pros use Gamecube or Classic. Time to upgrade

[ChaoticRain1]

Don't you mean downgrade :P?

[Cornbinks]

Wiichuck is great. So you don't get DAC, so what. Good players can win without it.

[Dugaru327]

lololololololol

...Oh wait, were you serious?

[Dugaru327]

(You do realize that wireless controllers have input delay, yes?)

[sehwut]

ican do this with wiimote and nunchuck so i win.

[crazyfootyfan]

lol no cuz the gamecube pad is better than the plastic dildo wii remote

[cornetas]

xDDDD

[youarepwned]

You *do* realize that pads are something women use, right? I mean, yes, the gamecube controller is better, but just saying.

[cdiaz1962]

thats RIGHT

[iamfire757]

"pros" can use what they want ass

[Dugaru327]

You're right. They can. And almost all of them use Gamecube (wired). Lol

[Xiphion]

yes you can do it with wiimote and nunchuck

[Roy7437]

What's the song?

[Tadgh11]

how to: run, any direction on c stick(cept up), and immediately(practically as you press the c-stick) press up and z

doing it wrong over and over again won't help, this isn't the kind of thing you learn from practice

once you know how to do it, should be able to do it each time

[misterpimp5757]

when is the right time to do the up smash?

i cant do the cancel snake dash but i can do the regular snake dash.

[okgamer]

you have to use it like instantly after you dash.. its much easier if you use the c stick

[silverhalo117]

His DAC is so unique that they gave a seperate name for when Snake does DAC.

Snakedashing. That's just cute.

[ffgamer22]

I think perfect wavedashing with Fox is harder than doing the Snakedash -_-

[Zjiin]

Uhhh, i think you mean waveshining. And anything in Melee is harder to do than in Brawl.

[ffgamer22]

nah i really meant perfect wavedashing because sometimes with Fox you can still hear his airdodge cry when it's not perfect.

[kattenberg]

Oh it's not that hard, get yourself some melee fingers and timing.

[Aerfji420]

ohhh yess I got it.

Lol

the timing is like instant

lol I always thought that I had to do it in specific timing.

About melee fingering.... I do wavedash fine and other stuffs fine in melee.. w/e you're talking about

[oloolopatrolo]

dac is very easy to do but i think snake's is worse than link's!

[poophere1]

i can do daaat easily who wants to play me i need some competition my fc is 5026-5817-6040 send me urs so i can add

[Xfactor031]

.....sooo whats the point of that??

[UberMari0]

Sliding across an entire stage for one.

[jellybeansinc]

there's some good snakes out there that after you die they d-smash down a strong mine and when u come back during your frames of invincibility try to disarm it, he slides to the other side with a mortar for protection-- to lay another mine :D

[1845net]

this is a posible code for the ssbb debug menu:

4756-JG8D-857F

HDH5Y-BWO6-3754

BCFE-CBFH8

(AR)

[misterpimp5757]

i cant do the cancel one.

[jellybeansinc]

notice this is a hop into mortar slide, i still dont know how to freaking do it though!!!

[RustyIShacklefurd]

I believe it involves control buffering, which is when a command is delayed for a moment because it's not executable at the time when you try to perform it(for an example, while falling with Peach, if you try to pull a turnip just before you hit the ground, it will wait until you land and then immediately perform the turnip pull because she can't perform a Down-B in the air). Using this gives you extra time to command an Up-Smash just as Snake begins his dash attack.

[jellybeansinc]

u can do it without hitting opponent, i do it 90% of the time in 1/2 speed

like 10% of the time in real time

:(

still possible though- maybe if you get a turbo controller and save the move for X or something

[VeteranSmasher]

For people having trouble to do this, it's actually quite easy when you do it with the following inputs:

Dash normally (analog, lol), Dash attack with C-Stick (any direction), then immediately press Z (grab button) and up on the analog.

[jellybeansinc]

Such things as turbo controllers that can save and execute the perfect frame real? :)

[RustyIShacklefurd]

No. It's part of Brawl's mechanics. If you try to perform an action that you can't do the moment you press the button, but you can do a small number of frames later, then the game will automatically delay the command until it can be performed. This is what allows you to do things like easily cancel Pikachu's quick attack even though it would normally require frame perfect timing. It's part of the various attempts at "noobification" introduced in Brawl, to help those with less-than-perfect timing

[silverhalo117]

Like holding a direction to jump off a wall and holding the A button lol. It messes my timing up, like, right after an attack, I press something else. By the time I did that, the enemy moved so I try to follow but it does my previous commands. I'm not a button masher, but it messes up my timing completely.

[Aerfji420]

no connntact is hardddd lol

[jellybeansinc]

lol it's insanely hard

[jellybeansinc]

Such things as turbo controllers that can save and execute the perfect frame? :)

[canesplaya030]

zjiin do you have to do anything different to get the animation of your dash attack before going into the usmash? Its happened to me a few times but im not sure how to do it

[Cubzdood]

I too was having tons of trouble getting this move to work--I was only able to if I actually hit them first. But I found a great way to do it without hitting the opponent.

If you have a GC controller, go to Options and remap Z to attack. To pull off this move, dash and use down on the C-stick to begin the dash move. Immediately after, press Z and Up at the same time.

I've tried many different methods and this was the only one I'm able to get to work REMOTELY consistently.

[justsupit009]

man ur a god thanks aloot!!

this works people, mapping ur attack to Z makes it so much easier!

[ARNGRIMPRO]

Snakedash kicks ass of people, my mains are snake, kirby, zelda & Lucario.

I use this move well against my friends =)

Snake rlz.

[superN64]

i been kicking people ass with this move....HELL YEAH SNAKE FOR TOP TIER

[Birthnote]

tiers are 4 queers! just joking

[PsychoMidget]

LOL WOW I just read the "more info" tab about this video

you sir are an ass hahahaha

[Zjiin]

hahahaha, <3

[Eazyseph]

dammit, Psycho told me to register but I forgot to <.<

how different is it from smashboards?

[Zjiin]

Unlike Smashboards, the server works most of the time, and I like how it's geared towards the competitve scene. They're always fixing and adding features. I like Smashboards' forums better tho.

[hardworkguy]

I can't do can you help me in anyway?

[ruuku1012]

So, you're jumping then you buffer a dash after words?

[Draqo91]

how do ypu do this o.o ?

[kankariko]

its called wavedashing i think.

[ganondorffromhell]

i cant do it, is like wavebouncing?

[superN64]

it so easy to pull it off you just run and on the c stick just push down and up super fast and you will pull it off.

[UsurperKingZant]

Can it be done without setting tap jump??/

[jellybeansinc]

without hitting the opponent no

turning it off u can do it without hitting something

[littlenemo5]

got my ass handed to me by a snake dasher online...:( ooo the pain

[BlizzardOfTheCoast]

What's the music in this?

[SiekenKyoshiro]

If you down-C while running it will dash attack. You DAC by Up smashing immediately after the dash begins. So if you run, and flick the c-stick down than immediately up, it works.

[TheJuiceJuice]

Oh, I see now. This is way too easy. You all you do is press the C stick in any direction and then press Z+Up. Too easy.

[TheJuiceJuice]

So you just dash attack and u smash immediatly after? do you use the C stick? Is it hard to pull off?

[tisbad]

Dash attack, then immediately hit the C-Stick down. Immediately use an UpSmash with the Z button. You can find this all over Youtube.

[TheJuiceJuice]

I just tried it and it didn't work. Can you only do it on enemies, or while going towards a ledge?

[SHTorchico]

You gotta have some skill to pull it of lol

Try harder ;)

[MixCoatlPro]

its easier if when you run press the c stick down then inmidiately press the c stick up... that should be easier... just run, "C" down then up quickly.. . and after you press "C" up you can hold the "A" button to charge it if you want... with this you should not need that extra sec when you hit an opponent, so you can do it anytime... good luck!!!

[multicoloredwiz]

how exactly do you pull it off without hitting someone with the dash attack? i can't get the timing down at all. :|

[Dovieandi23]

Just do it faster. Hitting someone just gives you more time to do the input because of the pause you get when you connect. The buttons are still the same.

[wiiballin]

woo cool trick.. i gotta try that..

[xchanstar]

zjinn whats the move called when you dash attack then upsmash, but you still slide?

[Zjiin]

die.

[xchanstar]

:(

well i know its not DAC cos the dash attack isnt being canceled :O

[xchanstar]

nevermind i assumed DAC and mortarsliding were the same :[

[Zjiin]

oh I thought you were being humorous. In the case you are not, yes DAC is mortarsliding is snakedashing. The dash attack is being cancelled in these.

[bassk1000o]

hey you gotta tell what son you put in the backround!!!!

please with sugar on top

[kaniverjayz]

lolz... they took samus's super wave dash and gave it to snake, that's pimp, it's good to know this game is really good, lol. I can't wait for it to come out in england.

[nameformyskreen]

its not good....

[bassk1000o]

wow i ahvent been able to se anybody else move like that.. CONGRATS

[andrewajt62]

Cool! I wonder if there is a debug menu hiddin within the game, or did they take it out? Because the last two games it was used A LOT.

[Bladewise]

"snake lol"

that's pretty much all that needs to be said.