@DepressedSnail Actually Michael Phelps touched first - that is why the scoreboard put the number 1 by his name and that is why he got the gold medal. United States - 1, Serbia - 0.
hey, in case you didn't realise, 0.01 seconds is too small for someone to actually SEE the difference between 2 swimmers. 0.01 is very very very fast, which meant that Phelps won by less than a fingernail touch. It looks like they touched together. Cavic glided while Phelps did a stroke to the wall. I'm a swimmer and I know this. 0.01 secs is too small to see anything. Also, from the video angle, it looks like Cavic is winning.
Phelps' fingers may just be a tiny bit longer than Cavic's, anyway.
Not true. Touchpad activates with a pressure of at least 3kg. Any less and watter waves would triger it. Omega officials said in their official statement that it was clear from the second set of the pictures that Cavic touched it first but with not enough pressure. So Cavic touched it first, but Phelps activated it first and won (not for me). Cavic is the true winner!
Cavic je pobedio.......ali on se nije bunio iz 1 prostok razloga Ameri su mu rekli da ne dize prasinu oko toga ili ladno mogu da mu nameste doping test u je****j Americi....
listen people phelps couldn't have touched it firs if you pause it a about 6 sec you can see cavic touching but you also think that you see phelps touching at the same time but if you look closely you can see that p hand is bent up from the impact on the water...but like xemy92 said too much money was invested in p so he had to win it...
and C never got the medal even after it was accepted later...
@TheSrpkinjaa the pool length is 50m. the timing boards are about 1cm thick. the force needed to stop the clock is exactly calculated so that when it stops is when the swimmer would have touched the wall if the timing board was not there. as phelps came in much harder, he activated the board first. therefore, if there was no board, another 1 cm of racing and phelps would have overtaken cavic. that's how it works :)
omega needs the photo above the surface through the water and at the side zoomed in and up close underwater at the pause exactly when it turns 6 seconds on this video. this will prove to everybody that phelps touched first.
the photos they use are the underwater ones and they are viewd straight up. you need photos from the side like this video or just above the surface looking down through the water and then you can see phelps exact contact with the wall. phelps first contact with the wall is at exactly six seconds in this video. his fingers touch just above the surface before the palm of his hand just submerges slightly underwater which is the main photo used by omega and fina and they do not have the right one.
i just came across the case where omega official said cavic touched first but did not hard enough. this is bullshit! they are loking at the wrong photo. on this video pause once it turns 6 seconds. that is when phelps first touched the wall. has cavic touched yet? NO! the next frame after this phelps hands bend at the wall and cavic's fingers go forward to touch the wall. common sense. phelps hands bend cavic hands goes forward.
pause exactly when it turns 6 seconds. has cavic touched yet? NO! common sense people. phelps has the wall touched with his fingers above the surface at this image. to prove that phelps has the wall touched at this point push play and watch the next frame phelps hands bend at the wall right away. thi sproves that he had contact before hand. during this frame cavic hands goes forward to touch the wall. phelps hands bend at the wall cavic hands/fingers goes forward to touch the wall. common sense!
Long live americans, the most powerful people in the world, we can do anything just to prove that phelps won, we can edit the videos and make some changes. we are the best cheater. ha ha ha ha
You can't beat us, we are americans, we are the most powerful people in the world, we are the best cheater in the whole wide world, we declare who's the winner and we can prove that by editing some videos, no one can beat americans when it comes to cheating. Long live americans.
ch1do121, what are u talking about. who ever touches first is the winner. the touch is always hard enough to touch the pads. there is this lame excuse that cavic did not push hard enough when he did but he touched second. Pause once it turns 6 seconds. that is phelps first contact with the wall with his fingertips. has cavic touched yet? NO! look at the next frame after the pause at 6 seconds. phelps hands bend at the wall and cavic goes forward to first touch the wall. common sense.
dudes it dont matter who touched first. its who had enough force to push the touch pads and have the time. basically, who had their palms on the touch pad first? obviously, michael phelps in 0:07 or 0:08
its amazing how stupid people are. the only reason why they say phelps lost is because they are mad that cavic did not win. they would say phelps lost if he beat cavic by a full second. touch sensors and live footage do not lie. they do if someone wants them too. pause once it turns 6 seconds. Has cavic touched yet? NO! EVERYONE HAPPY! SOLID PROOF! YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT CAVIC"S RIGHT AND LEFT HAND ARE NOT TOUCHING THE WALL AND THAT PHELPS IS TOUCHING THE WALL WITH BOTH HANDS!
go to the youtub videos when they show the race above water. they show the final slo mo stage of cavic and phelps going to the wall at the end. pause when phelps fingetips just hit the wall. you can clearly see through the water that cavic is not touching and it is indeed the same image as the exactly 6 second pause.
dot4life and lawrence5165, both of you are idiots. first of all you can see 1/100 of a second when paused. and when the video is playing. touch sensors do not lie they do if u want them to. pause once it turns 6 seconds. phelps has the wall touched with his fingertips above the surface of the water. notice after the pause at 6 his bands bend at the wall and cavic hands move forward to touch the wall. common sense. is cavic touching at the exact 6 second pause...NO! there is half inch space
Cavic doesn't touch with his fingertips, he flattens his hands. Phelps's fingertips hit first. Phelps won. If you really think they would have let him walk away with the medal without reviewing this, you are an idiot.
the reason it was so close is because phelps had by far the better finish - his arms completed the stroke just as he reached the wall, cavic's arms were extended doing nothing for a time beforehand and he lost some speed
Serbs can't win and they don't know how to loose. Cavic lives in California. He went to high school in California. Does he even speak Serbian? Serbs are big-time loosers.
and of course u are from serbia and montenegro. every person there thinks cavic won becuse they are just mad that cavic lost (the person who represents their country and u and the rest should not have that kind of attitude) If cavic ended up winning by 1/100 of a second then i would say he won fair and square because i know photographs, videos, and touch sensors do not lie. we americans are not dumb like you
how pathetic can u be , being so naive. Do u really think that the american lobby , all the american sponosors and all the people behind Phelps woud have let Cavic win anyway?Can't u see that the only way this race could have ended is exactly how it did - with Phelps winning.Too much was invested in him just so he'd lose his final and most important race for his 7th medal.U can say and think what u want but if u think this was completely regular , u r clearly mistaking.
durobar, wow u are an idiot. pause once it turns 6 seconds. phelps has the wall touched above the surface with his fingertips. cavic is clearly not touching. even look at the next frame after this one. phelps hands bend at the wall cavics hands goes forward to the wall. common sense idiot. touch sensors do not lie. u do
I agree that clavic touched first and softer, BUT he touched slower to the sensors inside the pad which means that he wasnt going as fast as phelps as he touched the wall. thats how he lost
you are stupid!!! phelps won that. even look at the fames. phelps kept his head down and didnt glide into the wall!! if you were a real swimmer and you listened to your coaches you would know that!!!
pause once it turns 6 seconds. How is cavic touching? Because he is not people. Phelps has the wall touched above the surface. you can clearly tell by this image that phelps hands are closer to the wall and are on the wall than cavic meaning he gets there first. common sense people. People who think cavic won are just mad that he lost or hate americans and they should not have that kind of attitude. What is really funny cavic even admits he lost proving at least he is smart and is a good sport.
I dont get this whole debate, these are machines designed SPECIFICALLY for this job, it's fucking IMPOSSIBLE to cheat them. I wanted cavic to win, but im kinda happy phelps got the 8 golds
Wake up, ignorant! You need to apply a pressure of 3 kilos to stop the time. So, you can easely cheat to them if not! Cavic came first but his pressure was not strong enough. This is only a technical imperfection. One day, only the who came first matter will count. Till then, Cavic won for the honest ones.
do you really believe that he touched the wall first but didn't apply enough pressure to stop the sensors, while swimming butterfly? your an idiot. 3 kiloes of pressure, 6.6 pounds, is basically nothing. it is just high enough so that the waves the swimmers make don't set off the sensors. if Cavic really touched them so lightly that he didn't set them off right away then he doesn't deserve the gold..
Imagine this,you dumbass:You come to the pad 3 minutes before me and you apply a pressure of,lets say,2 kg permanently.I come 3 min. afterwords and I smack the damn thing hard!I won! But who actually won?Now you got it?Stupid ass.Waves could set it off, ha ha ha!The most stupid thing I ever heard.
iPhoneXperts, wow u are an idiot. u hate asians and are biased selfish and rude. why dont u say that in front of aisans and get your little ass kicked. u better shape up your act before u end up in prison or even worse......dead. by the way phelps won. u just hate americans or are mad that cavic lost and u should not have that kind of attitude.
pause once it turns 6 seconds. phelps is touching cavic is not dumbasses. ther is your thumbnail distance to the wall. why is everyone so dumb? people who think cavic won are just mad that cavic lost or hate americans and they should not have that kind of attitude.
GJ idiot, first I'm not asian, second, the reason they replaced actual people clicking a timer with technology is because there are idiots like you who can't even see a winner in a slow motion playback multiple times.
gvozdje, u are dumb. phelps won pause at 5 seconds and phelps fingertips just hit the wall so he stops the clock. none of cavic fingers are on the wall.
ma cava je bre bio prvi tu nema dileme
ninadj3 3 days ago
alo jadnici! vidimo se u londonu =) naravno, pevace se americka himna a ne srpska!
Painm4keR 1 month ago
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KIKASOtheJEBAC 1 month ago
You still can't tell... Your all retarded for even arguing about something that happened a long time ago. Do something with your lives
detroitman21 3 months ago
i like all the Americans coming in here saying he won, it's funny because he actually touched it second!
DepressedSnail 3 months ago
@DepressedSnail Actually Michael Phelps touched first - that is why the scoreboard put the number 1 by his name and that is why he got the gold medal. United States - 1, Serbia - 0.
swimfastguy35 1 month ago
yes you can see phelphs just touched the touch pad by a finger nail
MrSwimmingmango 3 months ago
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whats the name of the song?
fckdahlloff 3 months ago
hey, in case you didn't realise, 0.01 seconds is too small for someone to actually SEE the difference between 2 swimmers. 0.01 is very very very fast, which meant that Phelps won by less than a fingernail touch. It looks like they touched together. Cavic glided while Phelps did a stroke to the wall. I'm a swimmer and I know this. 0.01 secs is too small to see anything. Also, from the video angle, it looks like Cavic is winning.
Phelps' fingers may just be a tiny bit longer than Cavic's, anyway.
allrounderzy 4 months ago
It's not about touching the touchpad with more pressure, it's about who touches it FIRST, and that was Milorad Cavic. Video proved it. Peace
duxyrsd 5 months ago
Not true. Touchpad activates with a pressure of at least 3kg. Any less and watter waves would triger it. Omega officials said in their official statement that it was clear from the second set of the pictures that Cavic touched it first but with not enough pressure. So Cavic touched it first, but Phelps activated it first and won (not for me). Cavic is the true winner!
MarkanKrajisnik 6 months ago
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Phelps won i just saw it clearly right now.....
yoyofreakazoid 8 months ago
Semi final heats at World Championships in Rome:
Phelps has no Speedo LZR fast suit(suit that broke over 100 records)!
Cavic beats his World Record time and asks Phelps to swim final without suits.
In Final race Cavic has his Arena suit but Phelps has his Speedo LZR suit too!
Latest news:Fast Suits are banned from this year onwards,why I wonder???
We will see this July who's who in men's swimming.
BoxyTheSpaceDog 10 months ago 4
u guys are so dumb those touchpads pick up the first thing that touches them, the fingers tips of the swimmer clearly Phelps touched first
Swimmer2902 11 months ago
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alexarosa123 8 months ago
its amazing how stupid swimmers are.
jjmv99 1 year ago
If u look really good Phelps Came like rocket and won it!
TheValmirZz 1 year ago
0:06 sve govori !!!
StefanBrajkovic 1 year ago 2
Cavic je pobedio.......ali on se nije bunio iz 1 prostok razloga Ameri su mu rekli da ne dize prasinu oko toga ili ladno mogu da mu nameste doping test u je****j Americi....
TheLeXa97 1 year ago 12
listen people phelps couldn't have touched it firs if you pause it a about 6 sec you can see cavic touching but you also think that you see phelps touching at the same time but if you look closely you can see that p hand is bent up from the impact on the water...but like xemy92 said too much money was invested in p so he had to win it...
and C never got the medal even after it was accepted later...
9aice 1 year ago
@9aice The Touch Pad activates immediately when something touches the pad. Just face it. Phelps won.
alexarosa123 8 months ago
are you kidding it doesnt matter who put there hands flat on the wall forst it matters who touched it first and that was cavic
TheSrpkinjaa 1 year ago
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@TheSrpkinjaa the pool length is 50m. the timing boards are about 1cm thick. the force needed to stop the clock is exactly calculated so that when it stops is when the swimmer would have touched the wall if the timing board was not there. as phelps came in much harder, he activated the board first. therefore, if there was no board, another 1 cm of racing and phelps would have overtaken cavic. that's how it works :)
chrisfour4444 1 year ago
Wow, this is the worst comparison I've seen so far. It is so obvious phelps touched first in this.
odyma43 1 year ago
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaah nice try there Gvozdje. Nice try.
nuculearbazooka 2 years ago
Just do a slow mo with the pause button, it's obvious Phelps touched first
paulmaister 2 years ago 2
Looks like Phelps touched first I also paused it.
bucks2743 2 years ago 2
STOP AT 6 SECONDS. Phelps touched first! Get over it people!
amandaloveslove 2 years ago 2
cavic is touched firs!!!!you don't see good
raso559 2 years ago
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Niagaton 2 years ago
phelps won!!!! =)
seanithperry 2 years ago 2
omega needs the photo above the surface through the water and at the side zoomed in and up close underwater at the pause exactly when it turns 6 seconds on this video. this will prove to everybody that phelps touched first.
zugzwang101 2 years ago
the photos they use are the underwater ones and they are viewd straight up. you need photos from the side like this video or just above the surface looking down through the water and then you can see phelps exact contact with the wall. phelps first contact with the wall is at exactly six seconds in this video. his fingers touch just above the surface before the palm of his hand just submerges slightly underwater which is the main photo used by omega and fina and they do not have the right one.
zugzwang101 2 years ago
i just came across the case where omega official said cavic touched first but did not hard enough. this is bullshit! they are loking at the wrong photo. on this video pause once it turns 6 seconds. that is when phelps first touched the wall. has cavic touched yet? NO! the next frame after this phelps hands bend at the wall and cavic's fingers go forward to touch the wall. common sense. phelps hands bend cavic hands goes forward.
zugzwang101 2 years ago
watch:Phelps-Cavic MISSING Photo
mahonepb12 2 years ago
Video is useless, the pads are what stops the time. Phelps won. Easy call.
cbs5090 2 years ago
pause exactly when it turns 6 seconds. has cavic touched yet? NO! common sense people. phelps has the wall touched with his fingers above the surface at this image. to prove that phelps has the wall touched at this point push play and watch the next frame phelps hands bend at the wall right away. thi sproves that he had contact before hand. during this frame cavic hands goes forward to touch the wall. phelps hands bend at the wall cavic hands/fingers goes forward to touch the wall. common sense!
zugzwang101 2 years ago
Long live americans, the most powerful people in the world, we can do anything just to prove that phelps won, we can edit the videos and make some changes. we are the best cheater. ha ha ha ha
tanjoseph2003 2 years ago
and you are the best asshole.
WholeTruth 2 years ago
You can't beat us, we are americans, we are the most powerful people in the world, we are the best cheater in the whole wide world, we declare who's the winner and we can prove that by editing some videos, no one can beat americans when it comes to cheating. Long live americans.
tanjoseph2003 2 years ago
in seventh second Cavic touched and Phelps didin't. cavic is first what's the problem? :)
Stanislavacr 2 years ago
You're watching this, and you honestly believe Cavic won? It's obvious Phelps won this. And the pads don't lie...Phelps touched first.
brdman1980 2 years ago
Its 0.01 secod. You can't see that with a human eye or pause it so you you could see. It's like a blink of eye.
vedrandr 2 years ago
since phelps hands ben right away after the pause at 6 means he had contact with the wall with his finger at exactly 6 seconds. cavic had no contact.
zugzwang101 2 years ago
ch1do121, what are u talking about. who ever touches first is the winner. the touch is always hard enough to touch the pads. there is this lame excuse that cavic did not push hard enough when he did but he touched second. Pause once it turns 6 seconds. that is phelps first contact with the wall with his fingertips. has cavic touched yet? NO! look at the next frame after the pause at 6 seconds. phelps hands bend at the wall and cavic goes forward to first touch the wall. common sense.
zugzwang101 2 years ago
dudes it dont matter who touched first. its who had enough force to push the touch pads and have the time. basically, who had their palms on the touch pad first? obviously, michael phelps in 0:07 or 0:08
ch1do121 2 years ago
its amazing how stupid people are. the only reason why they say phelps lost is because they are mad that cavic did not win. they would say phelps lost if he beat cavic by a full second. touch sensors and live footage do not lie. they do if someone wants them too. pause once it turns 6 seconds. Has cavic touched yet? NO! EVERYONE HAPPY! SOLID PROOF! YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT CAVIC"S RIGHT AND LEFT HAND ARE NOT TOUCHING THE WALL AND THAT PHELPS IS TOUCHING THE WALL WITH BOTH HANDS!
zugzwang101 2 years ago 2
ya pause at 0:06 phelps touched first.
bleakilla 2 years ago
go to the youtub videos when they show the race above water. they show the final slo mo stage of cavic and phelps going to the wall at the end. pause when phelps fingetips just hit the wall. you can clearly see through the water that cavic is not touching and it is indeed the same image as the exactly 6 second pause.
zugzwang101 2 years ago
dot4life and lawrence5165, both of you are idiots. first of all you can see 1/100 of a second when paused. and when the video is playing. touch sensors do not lie they do if u want them to. pause once it turns 6 seconds. phelps has the wall touched with his fingertips above the surface of the water. notice after the pause at 6 his bands bend at the wall and cavic hands move forward to touch the wall. common sense. is cavic touching at the exact 6 second pause...NO! there is half inch space
zugzwang101 2 years ago
idont think we should fight anymre : )
BFXT1028 3 years ago
Cavic doesn't touch with his fingertips, he flattens his hands. Phelps's fingertips hit first. Phelps won. If you really think they would have let him walk away with the medal without reviewing this, you are an idiot.
scp2012 3 years ago
the reason it was so close is because phelps had by far the better finish - his arms completed the stroke just as he reached the wall, cavic's arms were extended doing nothing for a time beforehand and he lost some speed
wahaya2 3 years ago
Serbs can't win and they don't know how to loose. Cavic lives in California. He went to high school in California. Does he even speak Serbian? Serbs are big-time loosers.
kixigvak 3 years ago
this is bullshit cavic is the best
S4Svrbas 3 years ago
its was .01 of a second thats faster then you blink your not gonna be able to see it in a video
dot4life 3 years ago
phelps woN so everyone shutup
BrettIsCool1 3 years ago
and of course u are from serbia and montenegro. every person there thinks cavic won becuse they are just mad that cavic lost (the person who represents their country and u and the rest should not have that kind of attitude) If cavic ended up winning by 1/100 of a second then i would say he won fair and square because i know photographs, videos, and touch sensors do not lie. we americans are not dumb like you
zugzwang101 3 years ago
how pathetic can u be , being so naive. Do u really think that the american lobby , all the american sponosors and all the people behind Phelps woud have let Cavic win anyway?Can't u see that the only way this race could have ended is exactly how it did - with Phelps winning.Too much was invested in him just so he'd lose his final and most important race for his 7th medal.U can say and think what u want but if u think this was completely regular , u r clearly mistaking.
CCCC sami protiv svih
xemy92 3 years ago 18
Hodi u pichku materinu chedo. Izgubili ste rat i izgubili ste sto delfinom.
kixigvak 3 years ago
mama ti delfin , znas
xemy92 3 years ago
durobar, wow u are an idiot. pause once it turns 6 seconds. phelps has the wall touched above the surface with his fingertips. cavic is clearly not touching. even look at the next frame after this one. phelps hands bend at the wall cavics hands goes forward to the wall. common sense idiot. touch sensors do not lie. u do
zugzwang101 3 years ago
fuck you all that think phelps won, yes phelps is a great swimer but cavic touch first but he touch softer than phelps, so the crono marked phelps
davidfrgs 3 years ago
I agree that clavic touched first and softer, BUT he touched slower to the sensors inside the pad which means that he wasnt going as fast as phelps as he touched the wall. thats how he lost
lawrence5165 3 years ago
you are stupid!!! phelps won that. even look at the fames. phelps kept his head down and didnt glide into the wall!! if you were a real swimmer and you listened to your coaches you would know that!!!
18BRSA18 3 years ago
youre right phelps won
chadolino 3 years ago
Cavic definately won
SodaPopSara1995 3 years ago
pause once it turns 6 seconds. How is cavic touching? Because he is not people. Phelps has the wall touched above the surface. you can clearly tell by this image that phelps hands are closer to the wall and are on the wall than cavic meaning he gets there first. common sense people. People who think cavic won are just mad that he lost or hate americans and they should not have that kind of attitude. What is really funny cavic even admits he lost proving at least he is smart and is a good sport.
zugzwang101 3 years ago
I dont get this whole debate, these are machines designed SPECIFICALLY for this job, it's fucking IMPOSSIBLE to cheat them. I wanted cavic to win, but im kinda happy phelps got the 8 golds
slondawg 3 years ago
Wake up, ignorant! You need to apply a pressure of 3 kilos to stop the time. So, you can easely cheat to them if not! Cavic came first but his pressure was not strong enough. This is only a technical imperfection. One day, only the who came first matter will count. Till then, Cavic won for the honest ones.
durobar 3 years ago
do you really believe that he touched the wall first but didn't apply enough pressure to stop the sensors, while swimming butterfly? your an idiot. 3 kiloes of pressure, 6.6 pounds, is basically nothing. it is just high enough so that the waves the swimmers make don't set off the sensors. if Cavic really touched them so lightly that he didn't set them off right away then he doesn't deserve the gold..
xhaloaddictx 3 years ago
Imagine this,you dumbass:You come to the pad 3 minutes before me and you apply a pressure of,lets say,2 kg permanently.I come 3 min. afterwords and I smack the damn thing hard!I won! But who actually won?Now you got it?Stupid ass.Waves could set it off, ha ha ha!The most stupid thing I ever heard.
durobar 3 years ago
its pretty straight forward. you need to push 3kg of force on the plate to finish the race. rules are rules. all swimmers know this
fastfil 3 years ago
honestly i do love cavic but phelps won, and it was pretty god darn obvious
naruto01048 3 years ago
iPhoneXperts, wow u are an idiot. u hate asians and are biased selfish and rude. why dont u say that in front of aisans and get your little ass kicked. u better shape up your act before u end up in prison or even worse......dead. by the way phelps won. u just hate americans or are mad that cavic lost and u should not have that kind of attitude.
zugzwang101 3 years ago
kieran258: it's Nina Simone - Sinnerman (Felix da House Cat Heavenly remix)
turbofart 3 years ago
pause once it turns 6 seconds. phelps is touching cavic is not dumbasses. ther is your thumbnail distance to the wall. why is everyone so dumb? people who think cavic won are just mad that cavic lost or hate americans and they should not have that kind of attitude.
zugzwang101 3 years ago
Cavic won good viedo :D
iPhoneXperts 3 years ago
horrible way to even begin to try to prove your story. Thx for proving Phelps is the winner
maximo3491 3 years ago
Fuck you asshole you're so blind :D
Open you're eyes you fucking asian chink :D
iPhoneXperts 3 years ago
GJ idiot, first I'm not asian, second, the reason they replaced actual people clicking a timer with technology is because there are idiots like you who can't even see a winner in a slow motion playback multiple times.
maximo3491 3 years ago
slo motion phelsp won pause at 6 seconds
zugzwang101 3 years ago
gvozdje, u are dumb. phelps won pause at 5 seconds and phelps fingertips just hit the wall so he stops the clock. none of cavic fingers are on the wall.
zugzwang101 3 years ago
plese could you tell me what this song is called!
kieran285 3 years ago