This is one of the reasons why marriage is as rare as a black swan. Never before have I ever seen women so parasitical. And this type of behaviour has spread; why else are birthrates so low?
@brownie1982ad A great many women these days are like that. They see everything in their lives as either an accessory, or a burden she must dispose of in some way. Men, babies, jewelry, cars, houses, they're status symbols.
Well I'm a son of an Irresponsible mother who emasculated my dad, cheated and made a child with other man and raised in like is not the son of another man even though he looks and behaves very different from the rest of us. I'm 27 now and have childhood trauma even teenage, and looking back I can surely say that my mom stole my life and raped my soul, cutting every path that I was choosing and showed any interest in, leaving me wondering who I am and what the hell to do with my life GOD help me!
@scorici we are 3 boys and a sister, the sister was always favorite and gave special care while trashing the rest of us including my dad. I live in romania and feminism is a global phenomenon unfortunately, a very sad chapter for man around the world, especially in the US !
It is a sheer HORROR what is allowed to women. I do not agree with just letting a man (or boy) 'off' his responsibilities just because we allow women (and girls) off theirs. The root change has to be curtailing women's 'choices' rather than extending men's into the same disasterous result. But you make a fine case against the feckless and irresponsible females. Well done.
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11:15 Look at that repugnant cunt giggling on national television about intentionally ruining an innocent baby boy's life. A sane justice system would simply execute women for such gross negligence and abuse of power. I'd volunteer to be the executioner.
as a female i think i know why women do this. i almost was in that situation myself at one point. really its our cultural indoctrination of "anything goes sex". women buy into it and find out that they DO care when they have sex and cannot be like men in that way. its the chemicals oxytocin and even for men there's vasopressin which enables bonding after sex. its biological. so when a girl feels crappy and used after having sex and realizes she gave up something CONT.
@patriciacarrasco CONT. she wants the guy to stay w/ her and tries to get pregnant, not realizing that she duped herself into thinking that she really wanted "sex w/ no strings attached" theres no such thing as that. the woman becomes selfish and wants to have a family when its not originally what her and the guy signed up for
@thrilla72 I empathize. Ppl tend to think not getting married is the answer, but thats bc ppl don't seem to think past a certain point. I advocate marriage bc it's essential to every civilization. Besides, you don't hit it & quit it w/o thinking you are not in any vulnerable position.
@TheIDCLeader Abstinence works every time it's tried.
If more men shared this attitude, if they realized the situation and therefore insisted on their rights as men, and as fathers, then we'd have control again. It's just that simple. We'd have the power again, and it boils down to learning how to be a man. How to be a leader of people, of women, and families in general. Society will be better off.
FYI, you cannot get an STD from a "hummer", so go out there and get some, and enjoy life again. Forget all those single mothers and other parasites looking to steal your wallet, at least with a hooker you get exactly what you paid for, and you wont have to put up with thier crap afterwards.
@TheEqualizer2U No, hookers aren't the answer. Not for me at least.
Sex is a non-issue for me. For the purpose of physical release masturbation is more then effective. I'd rather die a virgin then give it up to someone who pretended.
It's also alot easier to blame other people for your mistakes then it is to admitt to your mistakes, unfortunately the majority of women especially in the western world will never admitt to their mistakes and will instead keep blaming men for all their mistakes and will keep blaming men for everything.
In the western world today women are treated like children, women are not being made and are not being told to take responsibility for themselves for their lives and for their actions, if a woman has a problem she blames it on men, if a woman does something wrong and makes a mistake she blames it on men, men in the western world today have become scapegoats for women.
If a woman has complete control over her reproduction, then I understand the argument that men should also have complete control over this "choice" as well. However, babies are humans the moment they are conceived, therefore NEITHER man nor woman has the choice to terminate that life. If a woman gets pregnant, it's NOT her choice, nor is it then man.
Let's rewind for one moment. They BOTH have the choice and the responsibility of sleeping together. If pregnancy results, then it's too late.
@threehappypenguins Its true they both have a choice to have sex, but afterwards only women have the choice to not become a parent. She can abort the child or give it up for adoption.
Men do not have this choice.
We thought it was wrong to force a woman to carry a child through pregnancy if she does not want it and thus they got abortion.
Yet we expect men to live up their choices and become a dad if he does not want to (or at least pay money for that choice).
@ManSpeakOut What I'm saying is that neither a man nor a woman should ever have a choice to murder a child. In the womb, or out of the womb. Yes, women are legally given the choice to murder their children in the womb, but this should not be legal. It's murder. The same with the morning after pill.
I agree about the court system, however, I don't know how sorry I can feel for the men who aren't particularly selective w/ the women they have sex w/. Men aren't numb to how court systems is obviously in favor of women at the expense of children and their biological father...just their penises. Not getting married is the equivalent answer to "jumping beneath the bed" in a house fire. I wish men would choose quality women and to stop pumping sperm into these pump-n-dump queens.
@ladyEulaelie This whole area is complicated. I appreciate what you say here and there is responsibility on both sides. However, this film deals specifically with female responsibility and female culpability in producing fatherless children. In our society, women hold all the cards that count.
Gotcha. I like that this information is out there. I have had a few women from different races and classes and cultures admit to me some pretty sinister things they have done and lied about to get child support and just to screw the biological father over. They are clearly irresponsible. Great information, but unfortunately, for the men watching, all this info about what women do how crafty and evil we can be goes out the door as soon as they get an erection.
@ladyEulaelie It is the responsibility of the woman to take all necessary steps to mitigate the risk of pregnancy. Getting drunk, allowing him to go raw are all the responsibility of women. They should understand the risks of sex and if they don't then thats their fault. Women know if shit goes bad they will have to carry the child for 9 months, not the man. That is why it is her responsibility. Women wanted power over there bodies, now with the power comes accountability.
I'm sure all the women you have sex w/ agree that it's ok for you to mount on, but it's not your concern to avoiding get them pregnant right? I do agree women have gone so far to ensure men no longer have rights to their offspring, the born & the unborn, to the extent that men feel so powerless they just throw their hands up & say let the women be accountable. But do comprehend the system works against you. Pussy is not just pussy. Choose your sex partners well.
@ladyEulaelie we do are part by wearing condoms, but the girl has the power to lie about being on birth control. When a girl can deceive a man into thinking he is safe to later find out she lied is just immoral. The reason women are willing to lie is they know the system is on their side. If that weren't the case you would hear less stories about her "forgetting" to take the pill. A women who seems trustworthy can turn out to be vulture.
@ladyEulaelie Contraception is the responsability of the mother. Men only have one recourse to this, the condom, and the woman can tell if it is being used. Woman have IUD's, birth control pills, diaphrams, etc and men have to take a woman's word on this. Then there is abortion and adoption which give women even more recourse, but the man has no recourse past conception.
The video was ok until it suggested something as equally selfish as what feminist suggest. Why is it selfish of a woman to carry her pregnancy full term even if the biological father would rather their offspring die??
YES, women are the gateway to reproduction but men DO have the option of not going up in a woman's guts and breaking her down like a shot gun. You don't have to open the gates. No excuses. This is, perhaps, the one video I disagree w/ out of most of your videos.
Woah. The last part that pointed out the scale of child abuse that is happening as mothers continue to use drugs while pregnant made A LOT of sense. It's brain-boggling that demolishing someone's whole life by drinking, smoking, etc. while pregnant is tolerated.
wow looks like the brits are lead by people which do all in their power to run society and country against the wall as hard as possible while trying to make it as least noticable for the populus as possible. means not by means of desease, war and so on but with social engineering. british ww1 and 2 veterans would turn in their graves if they would know for what kind of bullshit future they sacrificed their life for if they would see their island now a days
my mother is hedonistic. she makes me and my father look like the devils, when in fact shes the one who abuses us psychologically. never contributes to the family, yet justifies everything bcuz she said she endured a traumatic childhood, yet she herself has brought upon me an equally if not, more adverse childhood.
@HPfan75 -- were dinner for a while. Charity's are generally for shit. A couple churches were fantastic, but those that say they help the hungry in America.. they're full of it. She tried to paint her bathroom and ended up in bed the next day in pain. She worked her body to distruction and he climbs in bed with another woman. Tells mum to get a job and leave him alone. She's disabled..but yeah. She's going to work enough to pay the bills. Needless to say, he and I don't speak.
@HPfan75 I can sympathize somewhat. My father sounds like your father. But he left my mother only 3 yrs ago. He and her fought near the end, but it was quite obvious it wasn't worthy divorcing over. He was used to getting his way and she was tired of his badmouthing everything she did for him. She became very unpleasent to be around and one day he left. Cheated on her. And after her working 40+ years, into a state of disablity, he feels he has no responsibility to her. Bread and Ranch dressing--
@HPfan75 At last an earth mother realises that little fact and isn't all 'It's MY baby cos I grew it in MY body.' Good to see that us blokes are finally recognised. And as you felt the need to insult me... Fuck yourself and die of syphillis you fucking whorebag!
He has COMPLETE AND UTTER POWER to cover his penis. She has complete and utter power to birth a child. This is basic science. Ejaculate in a fertile woman and there is a great liklihood she'll become pregnant. Don't want to be a father, COVER YOUR PENIS MR. I'M NOT IN CONTROL.
The whole point is they WANT the child. She doesn't have to cross her legs as she HAS THE POWER TO ABORT THE CHILD OR KEEP IT, if she wants to KEEP IT, she has the POWER TO MAKE HIM PAY.
You're missing the point and grasping as straws. I think it's hypocritical as hell that SHE can kill her child but *HE* can't. But what he *CAN* do is keep his pecker in his pants or cover it with a condom. Or clip his jingle-bells.
@rattusvirtualis I get the point of the video. I get the hypocracy that women can dictate what men do when men can't hardly do the same to women. Father's can make dead-beat mother's pay or go to jail... but I BELIEVE in the fact that it is heavily one-sided. I'm a divorced mother. My husband wanted a child. I got pregnant. He left. He decided he didn't want his son and I didn't trust him to be alone with our son. So he's not around, and I don't ask for support. Even thru homelessness.
I know we're supposed to think of black people when we hear about "irresponsible fathers" or "welfare mothers" but these aren't problems that just came out of a vacuum because poor/black people just happen to be acting "irresponsible",
it happened as the result of deindustrialization and the chronic joblessness that exists for low-skilled people in this situation.
I think if the rules were changed so the man can opt out, you would see a lot guys just busting a nut in women and telling them to piss off when they got pregnant. Plus with all the people the think abortion is murder, you'd have a lot of fatherless kids out there.
@rexxthunder Men shouldn't "opt out" they should OPT-IN. Women (who have complete control of reproduction) should not be allowing themselves to become pregnant with a man who has not opted-in. With complete power comes complete responsibility.
@manwomanmyth Women don't have *complete* control over reproduction. Men can cover their penis with a condom, snip the bells, or simply don't have intercourse. There is a result to sex that is more than orgasm or simply a pleasant experience. We're all adults here & we know what the RISKs are. The courts, if they're going to come to the defense of the innocents, that they may have a decent life, need to protect the father from getting financially raped. There's no good reason they don't.
@earthygreen No. Men DO have control of whether or not they ejaculate inside a woman, they DO NOT have ANY control of reproduction. The pill, the morning-after pill and abortion law, means that babies are conceived and/or born or not, entirely on a woman's whim.
I think the film is very clear on this and I don't understand why many people struggle with this concept. It shows how ingrained is the false concept of 'equal male responsibility' for 'unequal female choices'.
I agree. I had a situation like this occur. Fact is, when it came down to whether or not to keep the child I had absolutely no say, and the mother was quite honestly in no postiion financially or in her support systems to properly care for the child with any degree of certainty. Thus, I will shoulder the responsibility for a choice i advocated strongly against for the welfare of the child.
@manwomanmyth Woman have the right to abort, so men should have the right to walk away too. Also woman are allowed to dump their kids and get away with it.
@earthygreen THIS IS NO different from what females have. Cannot women also Use a Female condom? Have their tubes tied? Or simply keep her legs closed? Males need to have reproductive choice as well.
@rexxthunder you would also see alot of women choosing not ot open thier legs and do their due diligence. Also you would have less women trying to muck up a relationship and vie for child support money as a safety net, and in turn she will have to do her due dilligence and work out her problems at home. Too many men easily gfet left for so many stupid reason and when the woman leaves she often takes hte children with them
"some women have no choice because a man doesn't want them or they are getting SO close to the end of their fertility that they have no other choice."
What about adoption?
"There is no such thing as duping a man unless she PRETENDS to love him."
What about a woman who lies about being on birth control in order to get pregnant? That isn't 'duping' a man, to a certain degree?
my beaten down mangina friend was told that his girlfriend had a surgey and it was 100% impossible for pregnancy, her mother confirmed this also with her sister there also and guess what happened? pyschopathic withches should be in prison, e being a complete mangina now has to work 2 jobs to be flat broke
The natural consequence of sex is pregnancy! So if you are reckless enough to ignore that very significant fact and risk casual sex, whose to take responsibility for that? Also what about the ethics of abortion and birth control? The rule is simple, always see sex in terms of its naturally intended consequence and never trust a loose woman. A loose woman is a woman that won't consider the potential consequences for her and will later to think that you are the one responsible for having sex!
The idea that men have no control over reproduction is absolutely ridiculous. Heterosexual intercourse is generally considered a activity that can lead to pregnancy. My advice to simon is that he get a hold of himself.
@paris4185 And my advice to you is that you attempt to appreciate reality. Not only can a man not make himself infertile with the same ease as a woman, but ask yourself a simple question: if a man has sex with a woman and is concerned that a pregnancy may happen, what can he do about it? The answer is nothing.
Now, under the same circumstances, what can a woman do about it? Oh yes, the morning after pill.
The issue is about who has CONTROL, and it's not a difficult issue to understand.
@manwomanmyth "what can he do about it?" Wear a freaking condom!!! I keep telling my son I don't care if she says, "I am infertile on 4 types of birth control and never want kids he still needs to wear a freaking condom." And if you don't want to wear a condom then go home and masturbate.
@manwomanmyth Vasectomy? Would a male pill solve the problem? Probably not because people are irresponsible. I think it is unfair that guys have no say once the baby is conceived but as far birth control goes guys do have an option and that is the condom with spermicide. If you choose not to use it then you get what you deserve.
I have no sympathy for a guy who doesn't take the minimal step of a condom. Just as I have no sympathy for the women not using birth control. Be responsible.
@BurnTheBurka That said I believe that once that baby is made the man should have the "male abortion option". That means if the guy says "get an abortion" and she won't, he can sign his paternal rights away and have no obligation to the child. I even think that if the woman wants an abortion and the man says no the woman should be required to have the baby and give him/her to the father. "Mom" will be able to sign her parental rights away and have no responsibility to the child.
@BurnTheBurka The condom isn't the answer and never could be. I've explained why in this film and others. In the situations I specify, all condoms do is allow women to be irresponsible and then enable us to lay the blame squarely on the man. It's an easy and false burden which successfully targets men as being responsible for women's poor choices.
Men and children don't "deserve" the damage brought about by women's irresponsibility and the "wear a condom" mantra simply doesn't cut it.
@manwomanmyth I'll watch the vids but my instinct is to say that condoms with spermicide are 95% effective. I agree men have fewer rights and are treated unfairly in many of these situations but there are three options (condom, vasectomy, and abstinence) that men have to protect themselves right now and frankly if I was a young man I would not put my life in the hands of a slut I picked up at the bar.
Remember, I was responding to a ? regarding what a man can do to prevent pregnancy.
@BurnTheBurka I think we largely agree, except where it comes to our attitude to men.
We don't say to women: "you have three options: condom, hysterectomy,abstinence". Instead we do everything possible to offer as many other options as possible, including a legal framework to give women choices over and above simple prevention.
Men DO have to protect themselves, because no one else will. After all, men don't have "fewer" rights in this area, they have none.
@manwomanmyth I support a male pill though I found the part about the problems with the hormone pill funny. The female pill isn't all that great in terms of side effects but it is better than unwanted pregnancy.I tried Depo shot once, it was the worst thing I ever did.There will be side effects to a male pill and men will have to make the same choices women do.Women will be glad to share the responsibility of birth control with men.
@BurnTheBurka I always find the issue of side-effects to the pill a bit of a non-issue. Not because they are not important or even sometimes severe, but simply because, as you say, they are better than unwanted pregnancy.
I liken it to the "hassle" and "burden" and "problems" of being a wealthy landowner having the headache and stress of managing the hundreds of tenants on his land and keeping track of thousands in income per month etc. Some "responsibilities" are privileges heavily disguised.
@manwomanmyth Further, the idea of women being "glad to share the responsibility" is not really true. It's men that would be "glad" for even the opportunity to have the same control.
Women have a monopoly on creating children and no monopolist is happy to suddenly start sharing. Women would be "glad" only up until the point she wants to get pregnant, then she'd by "mad".
Women currently enjoy the enormous and life-changing power of being the sole decision-maker in producing children.
@BurnTheBurka Why should a woman's reproductive rights include forcing a man into parenthood after an unwanted pregnancy occurs? How would giving a man an opt out clause take away from a woman's right to get an abortion if she pleases? Why is it that when you talk about reproduction women have all of the rights and men have all of the responsibilities?
@roharatube The law today is simple, if you get her PG and she has the kid you pay,end of story. Given that fact, men need to take control by wearing a condom,getting snipped(after a certain age),or keeping it in their pants. There is current reality and there is theory. Male equality in reproduction is a theory right now and theory won't protect you if you pick up a slut with dreams of the perfect family.
@roharatube Now to theory. I am far more radical than a mere opt out. Here is my fair plan. If she gets PG and insists upon being a mom then the man should have the right to sign away his rights and have no obligation to pay child support and his identity is kept secret. Conversely, if she wants an abortion and he wants to be a dad she will be required to have the baby and sign over her rights with her identity kept secret. No whining later.
@BurnTheBurka So it seems that you agree with what is being said here. Actualy, even I would not even go so far to force a woman to carry a child if the father wanted it. There is a case to be made for the risk she takes on while pregnant even though those risks are not the reason most women get abortions. All I propose is that men should not be forced into the role of father-which is defined by law as that of a walking ATM machine-if women have a choice to refuse motherhood.
@roharatube I do not believe that all men are sex crazed beasts out to get sex & will rape you if denied.Nor do I believe that all women are baby making sluts with the goal of imprisoning men.I do believe the law is unfair and needs to change but that doesn't excuse either sex irresponsibility esp. in regard to casual sex.You don't know the person,you do not know if they will respect your rights.People have their own agendas.Just be responsible for protecting yourself, don't be a victim.
@BurnTheBurka I think a father should have an opportunity to sign off on his rights/responsibilities as most men do generally but to be honest were I to have a woman pregnant by me and I wanted the child (which I would) and she didn't (but couldn't abort it because of me) I don't would not trust her to carry it to term "properly". I've seen many newborns who's mothers drank, smoked, did drugs etc and frankly it is heartbreaking to look at them and know their lives are already ruined.
@MTguy1 Is MT, Montana? I grew up there and graduated from MSU.
It makes me sick what some women do to their unborn babies. If we are serious about giving men equal rights then we have to give them the ability to keep the baby. The only option in the case where the woman is that uncaring and irresponsible is to place her in some sort of confinement. Sadly, that would be the only logical outcome.
It is yes, and like I say I can understand the concept and the reasoning you mention but even ignoring the practicalities that would come into play (health concerns, expenses blah blah blah) again I am just saying that a woman who doesn't want a child but carries it for 9 months can and to my mind probably will do more harm to it and walk away with no responsibilities and you with no recourse if she doesn't care & they can already abdicate enough responsibilities to my mind.
A father CAN relinquish parental rights...but he has to legally declare he is the father. If he does so, even if the mother indicates to the judge that she desires no child support (either b/c he cannot provide it or they do not want contact)...the judge will act in what he thinks is the 'CHILDS best interest' i.e. he very well might STILL require the father to play child support...all the while having NO custodial rights.
...this is fundamentally wrong, imo...and all you hear from women is...'dont want a kid...keep it in your pants," which is inherently sexist. Last I heard it takes TWO to make a baby, and as it is the mother's SOLE decision ultimately to keep give up a child, he is essentially held 'hostage' to her decision...with no rights or protection of his own. That needs to change, imo.
As every one of us is well aware... However this isn't what any of us is referring to when we say that a father should be able to wash his hands of the responsibilities in the same time frame that the mother can wash her hands of hers'. Obviously we're not saying that we should all have the same "options" that we have now.
So in the set out hypothetical situation wherein a woman is pregnant and doesn't want it and I do (which I argued against) thereby forcing her to carry it to term her intentionally trying to damage the fetus is a "bad habit" or conversely it would be my fault for apparently seeking out women who are of low enough moral fiber to drink and smoke while pregnant in the first place? Reread what was said before you jump to blaming men (me) in defense of a hypothetical woman white knight
@MTguy1 It makes me sick to think about the unborn child who is the subject of such a tug of war. If you've ever heard your parents argue and scream at each other when you were a kid you know what I mean. Many adults involved in such disputes are selfish and have no respect for the individual they procreated. Is it so weird to say "don't fnck any woman you wouldn't want as the mother of your kids?" If you want a child look for a suitable wife who doesn't drink & smoke. Simple.
@Khamomil why men are more voluntarily single is not only because of the legal misandry they have witnessed, but the gynocentric emphasis and the lack of fairness and concern in relationships, marriage or not. And the "look for a suitable wife who doesn't drink and smoke" are less and less---men are also being more selective about their mates because there are many US and UK women are not marriage material, simply put.
@Wytchfinde I know everything is so fncked up. Manipulating people and using emotional blackmail after pretending one loved a person are truly horrible things to do. I think there should be a symposium of lay people (NO ACADEMICS, SHRINKS etc.) to discuss in good faith about the issues that pit men against women. Look everybody is at everybody's throat cuz of race, religion and now even the sexes are at war. This is a disaster. We need to reconcile, make peace, B4 it's too late.
@MTguy1 How would a woman who doesn't drink and smoke force herself to do it just to harm the baby? Your hypothetical cannot happen in real life. How would you force a woman to carry out a pregnancy? Why would you want to rear a child without a mother?
Don't expect women you meet in bars or clubs and have casual sex with to be model mothers. You can't have it both ways. Pay a pro for casual sex & don't look for a future wife & mother of yr kids in the wrong places. Abstinence is good too.
Honest to God dude...go back and read the COMMENTS! Someone else said that instead of being able to opt out financially a father should be able to force the woman to carry a pregnancy to term, to which I said it was a BAD IDEA. Get it through your head white knight, I did not advocate casual sex, I did not advocate forcing a woman to carry an unwanted child to term since you seem to have a problem with reading comprehension or you're just too lazy to go back three more comments
I will spell it out for you. Having a child with a woman who you don't know or don't trust in any way shape or form to carry it to term in any circumstance is not only a bad idea but stupid, that you seem to not understand this from context is stupifying. Seriously go attack someone else who is actually saying what you are arguing against if you feel so damn strongly about it...
Also, ignoring the fact that I never said what you're saying I did to answer your question "How would a woman who doesn't drink and smoke force herself to do it just to harm the baby?" It happens every day, excessive drinking has been a well known way of getting rid of a pregnancy since ancient Rome at the least, so grow up. Why would I want to rear a child without a mother? Why do so many women want to rear a child without a father?"
@Khamomil Then you would have to accept there are a lot of women having casual sex, and men that "don't get none" are considered losers in the sexual arena. And considering that there are women that have skewered and hypocritical standards for men concerning sex and commitment, as well as having tremendous sexual reproductive power, you don't seem to understand how difficult it is for men as far as sexual acceptibility and being desired. I see that many women NOW want commitment are ones that
@Khamomil are typical single moms that most men don't want to have a serious relationship with because the children are not biologically there. When women want commitment, there is a huge price men have to pay and in Western culture it is often men that are seen to acquiesce in order to get even crumbs of affection and attention. Women pretty good at withdrawing and even social/intimately punishing men for not affording more of the balance of power in relationships to them. One of the reasons
Finally, why are there more birth control options for women? It is easier to block the sperm than it is to stop sperm production completely. Also, some men are weird about their balls. I have meet men that refuse to get their male dog fixed. Are these guys willing to fix themselves?
I don't know any single sluts but the married women I know are the ones who take the responsibility of birth control until the family is complete and the pill's side effects can be harsh.
this is the reason why societies in different corners of the world frown upon sex outside marriage (except for prostitutes). Casual sex is not a valid pursuit and you fully appreciate the dangers for the male as well as for the possible child. This should be reason enough to understand that sex without commitment and without love is bad for everybody. The sex act was a reward for commitment. You need to mature a bit.
What makes it even worse is that the criticism of David Cameron's article bashing 'deadbeat dads' on fathers day was not over how outrageous his statement was but how hes being two faced and helping out runaway dads who remarry with a tax break for married couples (which really is an attempt to hold families together and so is a good thing). Also criticism on how he's now charging women to phone up the CSA saying how hes making it harder for women to get hold of child support. Fucking outrageous
More male bashing recently on fathers day, seems to more about bashing them rather than celebrating them nowadays. Also I know someone who's similar to the young guy who had sex in a car example, he had to drop out of school even though he was fairly bright and could have gone to university and to make matters worse the girl who's pregant is only in and on and off relationship with him so the baby to be born isn't even in a stable relationship :/
Your only worthwhile comment in your litany of denial posing as criticism?
"a woman who purposely sets out to have a child alone is being selfish. However, some women have no choice because a man doesn't want them or they are getting SO close to the end of their fertility that they have no other choice"
This epitomises the wholly selfish mindset of the irresponsible mother. The mindset that you, and millions of women like you, support.
You blamed criminal bahaviour on fatherless early on an pretend it didn't happen the rest of the vid >:( It's not a matter of family, it's a matter of education and money
today women use getting pregnant as a carrier a woman on welfare makes more money then most working men its sad lazy and pathedic so much for women wanting a fair and equal world all thay wont is a free lunch and some1 to blame it on
Forget about women "not exercising due care", think 'premeditated life time entrapment'. I know women who have done this. How do I know? Because they told me themselves and expected congratulations. Boys as young as 12 should be taught that a woman can change their lives forever without their consent. The men that I know who had this done to them became stressed out only after the fact.
@lillie1990am Today in the western world men are raised up to be oblivious and vulnerable to female exploitation and extortion, and many women take advantage of that.
I been advocating for this to be taught to men in sex education for awhile now, they NEED to know this.
Awareness of this issue can be a great protection, and in our current situation, the only protection we have.
I'm a woman and I agree with this entirely. It's true that a lot of women try to use their pregnancy to make a man pay child support, when a lot of the time, said women use that support and spend it on themselves, other than the child. It's just a way for women like that to get easy money and have everything dropped in their laps, when in the end, the man AND the child both get hurt from it. It's despicable for a woman to do such a thing.
@Kenshiroit It was something that kind of stuck afterwhile xD. I first changed it on the chat client IMVU and put 'Sir' in front of 'Razael' when i changed my name. Then it just kind of stuck and i used it since :P.
Im getting a vasectomy cause I dont want kids and never will. I want power of my reproduction. And if a woman says Im stupid for doing so then fuck her, she has reproductive rights and I should too
I think that this video has many good ideas, but I'd just like to raise a point. As a woman, I DON'T feel that in all cases a woman has TOTAL power over her body, over whether or not she has a child. Think rape, think arranged marriage, think the Roman Catholic Church. Have I got a point?
I just want health families back and Single mother homes ain't cutting it. The system now is failing us. System need to change. " If you change the rules of the game, you change the way the game is played" The current system promotes single mother homes. Every society that is a matriarchy is in turmoil.
I think we can give a huge percentage of credit to that man hating bitch Oprah Wimfrey for about 25 years of telling women to hate men, get married then pregnant then utlitmately sue the man for divorce and everything he has or ever will have. After that demonized the father to his own children, do her best to get them to hate him as much a she does and make every attempt to make sure he can't see the kids. Even if he has court ordered visitation. Now WE have to deal with all these cunts!
SOLUTION: END welfare, alimony, child support, affirmative action and make abortion ILLEGAL. Women will only value hard working men and only have unprotected sex (or sex period) with their husbands. Single moms and divorces will disappear because there would be no incentive. Single moms act as Matriarchies in that they are in charge of how the next generation of kids are raised and are bad in that they produce non productive men and failing communities.
@Tsugua21 And when that couple has children and the man starts beating those children, and the women has no money or work because she's been out of the workforce as she has children, and she's stuck? Then what.
Just because there are people who abuse the system doesn't mean we just remove the system.
@ceratlc R U SERIOUS, MOST men don't beat their wives and their children. U watch to much T.V., do you even know a man who beats his family (U don't). MOST men never even hit a women, even when being hit by a women. Liberals and Feminist lied to us. Look at the stats, most divorces are file by wives under "no fault" which is means that she just doesn't feel like being married and wants half his money, the house and the kids. Kids need 2 parents (look at the stats), not just one selfish parent.
@Tsugua21 Holy fuck. I would hope most don't. I'm just saying it happens. And yeah, actually, I do know a man who's beat his family. OF COURSE MOST DON'T. SOME DO. Some men also cheat on their wives (as in my family, cheat while the wife is pregnant even). So in that case, my mother should have stayed and put up with it? Regardless, she raised her children just fine and without state care or child support because my dad WAS useless. (continued)
@ceratlc Why do women choose men, who will cheat and beat them? Women shouldn't have sex until marriage and she will find out who really loves her. With no government help, women will ONLY date, marry and get pregnant by EMPLOYED men who truly love them (like my grandma). Single motherhood is hard, toxic for the kid and costly for most fathers (everybody loses). When are women going to learn, marriage is not for the WOMEN it is for the KIDS. Most men are good guys. T.V. has lied to u
@Tsugua21 Actually, apparently my LIFE has lied to me. I don't own or watch television. Thanks, though.
I don't disagree with marriage, I'm just saying that sometimes a person's true colours don't come out until the children are born and it's too late.
My point is that saying that eliminating welfare and making abortion illegal will fix everything is the dumbest goddamn thing I've heard in my life. People won't magically be abstinent. Who'd buy a car without test driving it?
@ceratlc Welfare, child support, alimony and abortion are very new (only about 60 years old) and the divorce rate and single mother homes has sky rocketed, since these things have been put in place (They don't work). Before these things women were very picky about the men they choose and choose and better life partner (like my grandma), U say that "People won't magically be abstinent." I say women will, until marriage. Remember men like sex, women use sex a weapon.
@Tsugua21 Some men are still, in fact, useless. NOT ALL. Some. And there has to be something in place to help victims in those cases. On the same token, I think that sometimes women should be paying alimony and child support, but it's rarely the case that they have had the opportunity to be in a better position than the man.
@ceratlc If some men are useless then stop having unprotected sex with useless men. Women get pregnant by garbage and get mad that he's garbage. That make no damn sense.
@Tsugua21 Like I said. Sometimes a person's true colours don't come out until it's too late. Besides. Just because a person makes one mistake we shouldn't have anything in place to support them? That seems a little extreme.
Scores of these women having children they shouldn't be having are uneducated and religious. Let's get rid of religion and let them have the damn abortion they need.
@ceratlc We give women a chance and the power to make decisions about birth control and they failed, and they get pregnant by dead beat and complain about. Abortions don't work, because most women don't have them.
@Tsugua21 Exactly. Hence why I said why we should eliminate religion. Let the women have abortions. Free, too. I fully agree with the fact that there are women who shouldn't be having kids, so let's help them to not. But don't take away the safety nets for the women that deserve and require them.
@ceratlc Religion is not the point, I'm not religious. Without safety nets I guarantee women will choose better mates, with safety nets women will choose l losers and complain about it. Why do women deserve safety nets, you deserve what you earn and work for (A vagina a not a free pass through life, neither is a dick) if women require safety nets then that means their not equal to men, are burden to tax payers (that's who's paying for the free abortions you want).
@Tsugua21 No, a vagina is not a free pass. These safety nets should be in place for whomever genuinely needs them. I disagree with women's rights. And with men's rights. I believe in human rights, end of story. If there's a kid who shouldn't be around, TWO people fucked up. If someone is a victim, I don't care what genitalia is involved, the victim should receive help. And if men took responsibility that a kid shouldn't be conceived, he'd have wrapped it. Two people still at fault.
@ceratlc The funny part is that your right, men who go raw with a women is at fault, but the problem that many men are slowing getting wise and eventually will not get women pregnant or marry them, I'm 31 years old and most of my guy friends have no kids and are not married, because it's to much of a risk. Many women are sluts so they trap a men, so men are spoiled by the easy sex and won't comment. Too much government help is bad and makes people lazy and not accountable for their actions.
@ceratlc U said "Like I said. Sometimes a person's true colours don't come out until it's too late." How come i can talk to a guy for 30 minutes and tell u if he's a loser or not and it' takes most women 6 years and 2 kids. That statement "Sometimes a person's true colours don't come out until it's too late." tell me that most women are either very spoiled or very stupid, there are always red flags.
@Tsugua21 You did not just call my very intelligent, hard-working mother spoiled and stupid.
He liked to have a good time, but wanted to have kids with her. Then, while pregnant with her second child, he decided the bar and his new girlfriend were his new priorities. He changed his mind about parenthood. And that's her fault? Uh.. no. That's his fault. If a man's not ready to have kids, he should be wrapping his junk. Period. If he's useless, he is useless, and that is entirely his own fault.
@Tsugua21 You, and this video, are working to make it the woman's fault if the man has kids. I don't care if a woman says she's on the pill. If you don't know her well enough to know for damn sure she is, and you don't want a kid, put on a rubber. If that woman is a greedy bitch who is going to divorce you and take your money, don't marry her. I shouldn't have to use sex as a weapon. Women like it just as much as men. Men need to take responsibility just as much as women. Use a rubber. Holy fuck
@ceratlc Your looking at it wrong it's not about mom vs dad (which is want your making it out to be), if you love you kids you will only have your kids by a employed man who loves you and wants to have kids. (IT"S FOR THE KIDS) Having kids is not about the mother or father it's about the kids and kids NEED BOTH Parents! You choose a good man for your kids, not you. I choose a good women for my kids. If a women gives birth and doesn't care who the father is, she doesn't care about her kids.
@Tsugua21 I'm not! I'm just saying, sometimes people make a mistake that they don't realize is a mistake until it is too late, and then one party needs out. That's the atypical situation, yes, but it happens. Even if you wait and only have kids with a person who loves you and who says he wants kids. It can still end badly where one party needs to get out, and that's what those safety nets are for! Yeah, typically, choose well. There will always be the fuck-ups, too, though, unfortunately.
@ceratlc As long as only women can control fertility it should always be the one responsible for the birth of the child.
Until men can equally control their fertility thats how it should be.
There is so many options women have while men only have 2. Condom and vasectomy, so even trying to put equal responsibility on men when they have little power in terms of production and women have so much is wrong on so many levels.
@ManSpeakOut That isn't true! Women are not the only one who can control fertility! The top two options for birth control are 1. female hormonal treatment, and 2. condoms. They are the only options above 90%. As far as I'm concerned, anything below 90 hardly counts as "effective" so don't go propagating that women are so advantaged in birth control.
@ManSpeakOut Actually, nothing (NOTHING) is 100% and if you think that having you vagina ripped apart and a creature living in you for nine months, then having to raise a person isn't paying, you're clearly on crack. Not to mention that many women don't even ask for money from the man if they're not in a relationship. Yeah, some might, but you're acting like every woman on earth is a leeching bitch.
Men need to take responsibility for themselves too. No baby? Use what you have: a condom.
Single mothers are the most selfish people of earth. Avoid like the plague!
BobbyL5757 1 day ago
This is one of the reasons why marriage is as rare as a black swan. Never before have I ever seen women so parasitical. And this type of behaviour has spread; why else are birthrates so low?
blacktigerpaw1 1 day ago
"I wanted a baby of my own?" She was talking about a baby like it was a pet, and she had a right to one as a consumer.
brownie1982ad 1 week ago 2
@brownie1982ad A great many women these days are like that. They see everything in their lives as either an accessory, or a burden she must dispose of in some way. Men, babies, jewelry, cars, houses, they're status symbols.
LOLCLV 6 days ago
@brownie1982ad She should've got a turkey, that way she could snap its neck a million times without hurting anyone.
blacktigerpaw1 1 day ago
I come from a single parent famliy, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I wish I had a dad to raise me instead. Woman are evil towards their kids.
brownie1982ad 1 week ago
Well I'm a son of an Irresponsible mother who emasculated my dad, cheated and made a child with other man and raised in like is not the son of another man even though he looks and behaves very different from the rest of us. I'm 27 now and have childhood trauma even teenage, and looking back I can surely say that my mom stole my life and raped my soul, cutting every path that I was choosing and showed any interest in, leaving me wondering who I am and what the hell to do with my life GOD help me!
scorici 2 weeks ago
@scorici we are 3 boys and a sister, the sister was always favorite and gave special care while trashing the rest of us including my dad. I live in romania and feminism is a global phenomenon unfortunately, a very sad chapter for man around the world, especially in the US !
scorici 2 weeks ago
It is a sheer HORROR what is allowed to women. I do not agree with just letting a man (or boy) 'off' his responsibilities just because we allow women (and girls) off theirs. The root change has to be curtailing women's 'choices' rather than extending men's into the same disasterous result. But you make a fine case against the feckless and irresponsible females. Well done.
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TableWolfMusic 2 weeks ago
So true it can not be truer any more....
Protherium 2 weeks ago
11:15 Look at that repugnant cunt giggling on national television about intentionally ruining an innocent baby boy's life. A sane justice system would simply execute women for such gross negligence and abuse of power. I'd volunteer to be the executioner.
ingyinginging 3 weeks ago
As soon as i get enough money, im banking my sperm and getting a vasectomy
RunfromtheHeathen 1 month ago
as a female i think i know why women do this. i almost was in that situation myself at one point. really its our cultural indoctrination of "anything goes sex". women buy into it and find out that they DO care when they have sex and cannot be like men in that way. its the chemicals oxytocin and even for men there's vasopressin which enables bonding after sex. its biological. so when a girl feels crappy and used after having sex and realizes she gave up something CONT.
patriciacarrasco 1 month ago
@patriciacarrasco CONT. she wants the guy to stay w/ her and tries to get pregnant, not realizing that she duped herself into thinking that she really wanted "sex w/ no strings attached" theres no such thing as that. the woman becomes selfish and wants to have a family when its not originally what her and the guy signed up for
patriciacarrasco 1 month ago
@thrilla72 I empathize. Ppl tend to think not getting married is the answer, but thats bc ppl don't seem to think past a certain point. I advocate marriage bc it's essential to every civilization. Besides, you don't hit it & quit it w/o thinking you are not in any vulnerable position.
ladyEulaelie 1 month ago 3
Ha! No woman will have the power to make me a father!
I just wont have sex at all!
TheIDCLeader 1 month ago
@TheIDCLeader Abstinence works every time it's tried.
If more men shared this attitude, if they realized the situation and therefore insisted on their rights as men, and as fathers, then we'd have control again. It's just that simple. We'd have the power again, and it boils down to learning how to be a man. How to be a leader of people, of women, and families in general. Society will be better off.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 month ago
@TheIDCLeader
Hookers my friend, the answer is hookers.
FYI, you cannot get an STD from a "hummer", so go out there and get some, and enjoy life again. Forget all those single mothers and other parasites looking to steal your wallet, at least with a hooker you get exactly what you paid for, and you wont have to put up with thier crap afterwards.
TheEqualizer2U 4 weeks ago
@TheEqualizer2U No, hookers aren't the answer. Not for me at least.
Sex is a non-issue for me. For the purpose of physical release masturbation is more then effective. I'd rather die a virgin then give it up to someone who pretended.
TheIDCLeader 4 weeks ago
my mother is extremely irresponsible i think she is a feminist to her own convenience.
MrSFTU 1 month ago
11:34 maybe "shit happens, giggle" ?
all are pleased, curtains fall.
ultraverydeepfield 2 months ago
8:00 well the answer would be sexual education especially for the men.
ultraverydeepfield 2 months ago
I'm watching your documentary series...AGAIN
kenomy66 2 months ago 9
@kenomy66 lol. Enjoy.
manwomanmyth 2 months ago
It's also alot easier to blame other people for your mistakes then it is to admitt to your mistakes, unfortunately the majority of women especially in the western world will never admitt to their mistakes and will instead keep blaming men for all their mistakes and will keep blaming men for everything.
MrJohnboy1984 2 months ago
In the western world today women are treated like children, women are not being made and are not being told to take responsibility for themselves for their lives and for their actions, if a woman has a problem she blames it on men, if a woman does something wrong and makes a mistake she blames it on men, men in the western world today have become scapegoats for women.
MrJohnboy1984 2 months ago
Mira Gil-Lior = irresponsible (deadbeat) mom and step-mom. Bigtime gold-digging witch. Child-abuser in denial, need I say more?
startxxx1991 3 months ago
If a woman has complete control over her reproduction, then I understand the argument that men should also have complete control over this "choice" as well. However, babies are humans the moment they are conceived, therefore NEITHER man nor woman has the choice to terminate that life. If a woman gets pregnant, it's NOT her choice, nor is it then man.
Let's rewind for one moment. They BOTH have the choice and the responsibility of sleeping together. If pregnancy results, then it's too late.
threehappypenguins 3 months ago
@threehappypenguins Its true they both have a choice to have sex, but afterwards only women have the choice to not become a parent. She can abort the child or give it up for adoption.
Men do not have this choice.
We thought it was wrong to force a woman to carry a child through pregnancy if she does not want it and thus they got abortion.
Yet we expect men to live up their choices and become a dad if he does not want to (or at least pay money for that choice).
ManSpeakOut 3 months ago
@threehappypenguins If men don't want kids, we are told to either wear a condom, get a vasectomy or don't have sex at all.
For women who don't want kids, they get entirely different options.
Take the morning after pill, get an abortion, give up the resulting child to adoption.
Women can still freely have sex and does not have to live up to the choice she has made to have sex.
This is a crucial difference.
ManSpeakOut 3 months ago
@ManSpeakOut What I'm saying is that neither a man nor a woman should ever have a choice to murder a child. In the womb, or out of the womb. Yes, women are legally given the choice to murder their children in the womb, but this should not be legal. It's murder. The same with the morning after pill.
threehappypenguins 3 months ago
@threehappypenguins Our society is against forcing women into anything, including parenthood.
For men its the opposite, we are expected to live up to the choices we make.
Course in my opinion I think the morning after pill is not that bad, especially in comparison to abortion itself.
All the pill does is reduce the chance of pregnancy if you had unprotected sex.
ManSpeakOut 3 months ago
Oh yea...other than being a drug user and having a drug-addicted child, you did great during your pregnancy. Good job!! ....Unbelievable.
DoItYouWont100 3 months ago
In the eyes of the law that girl @ 09:50 has committed rape by deception.
JGrayshon 4 months ago
Because of they are feminist mothers.
dulanthad 4 months ago
@manwomanmyth
I agree about the court system, however, I don't know how sorry I can feel for the men who aren't particularly selective w/ the women they have sex w/. Men aren't numb to how court systems is obviously in favor of women at the expense of children and their biological father...just their penises. Not getting married is the equivalent answer to "jumping beneath the bed" in a house fire. I wish men would choose quality women and to stop pumping sperm into these pump-n-dump queens.
ladyEulaelie 4 months ago
@ladyEulaelie This whole area is complicated. I appreciate what you say here and there is responsibility on both sides. However, this film deals specifically with female responsibility and female culpability in producing fatherless children. In our society, women hold all the cards that count.
manwomanmyth 4 months ago 11
@manwomanmyth
Gotcha. I like that this information is out there. I have had a few women from different races and classes and cultures admit to me some pretty sinister things they have done and lied about to get child support and just to screw the biological father over. They are clearly irresponsible. Great information, but unfortunately, for the men watching, all this info about what women do how crafty and evil we can be goes out the door as soon as they get an erection.
ladyEulaelie 4 months ago
@ladyEulaelie You seem to forget that marriage leaves men in very vunerable positions.
thrilla72 1 month ago
@ladyEulaelie It is the responsibility of the woman to take all necessary steps to mitigate the risk of pregnancy. Getting drunk, allowing him to go raw are all the responsibility of women. They should understand the risks of sex and if they don't then thats their fault. Women know if shit goes bad they will have to carry the child for 9 months, not the man. That is why it is her responsibility. Women wanted power over there bodies, now with the power comes accountability.
MrWatsurname 1 month ago
@MrWatsurname
I'm sure all the women you have sex w/ agree that it's ok for you to mount on, but it's not your concern to avoiding get them pregnant right? I do agree women have gone so far to ensure men no longer have rights to their offspring, the born & the unborn, to the extent that men feel so powerless they just throw their hands up & say let the women be accountable. But do comprehend the system works against you. Pussy is not just pussy. Choose your sex partners well.
ladyEulaelie 1 month ago 2
@ladyEulaelie we do are part by wearing condoms, but the girl has the power to lie about being on birth control. When a girl can deceive a man into thinking he is safe to later find out she lied is just immoral. The reason women are willing to lie is they know the system is on their side. If that weren't the case you would hear less stories about her "forgetting" to take the pill. A women who seems trustworthy can turn out to be vulture.
MrWatsurname 1 month ago
@ladyEulaelie Contraception is the responsability of the mother. Men only have one recourse to this, the condom, and the woman can tell if it is being used. Woman have IUD's, birth control pills, diaphrams, etc and men have to take a woman's word on this. Then there is abortion and adoption which give women even more recourse, but the man has no recourse past conception.
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ladyEulaelie 4 months ago
@manwomanmyth
The video was ok until it suggested something as equally selfish as what feminist suggest. Why is it selfish of a woman to carry her pregnancy full term even if the biological father would rather their offspring die??
YES, women are the gateway to reproduction but men DO have the option of not going up in a woman's guts and breaking her down like a shot gun. You don't have to open the gates. No excuses. This is, perhaps, the one video I disagree w/ out of most of your videos.
ladyEulaelie 4 months ago
A MAN HAS CONTROL WHETHER A WOMAN BECOMES A MOTHER ALSO!!
markhai2978 5 months ago
Woah. The last part that pointed out the scale of child abuse that is happening as mothers continue to use drugs while pregnant made A LOT of sense. It's brain-boggling that demolishing someone's whole life by drinking, smoking, etc. while pregnant is tolerated.
JohnBigmon 5 months ago
wow looks like the brits are lead by people which do all in their power to run society and country against the wall as hard as possible while trying to make it as least noticable for the populus as possible. means not by means of desease, war and so on but with social engineering. british ww1 and 2 veterans would turn in their graves if they would know for what kind of bullshit future they sacrificed their life for if they would see their island now a days
happosai27 5 months ago in playlist Weitere Videos von manwomanmyth
my mother is hedonistic. she makes me and my father look like the devils, when in fact shes the one who abuses us psychologically. never contributes to the family, yet justifies everything bcuz she said she endured a traumatic childhood, yet she herself has brought upon me an equally if not, more adverse childhood.
lawker777 6 months ago
@HPfan75 -- were dinner for a while. Charity's are generally for shit. A couple churches were fantastic, but those that say they help the hungry in America.. they're full of it. She tried to paint her bathroom and ended up in bed the next day in pain. She worked her body to distruction and he climbs in bed with another woman. Tells mum to get a job and leave him alone. She's disabled..but yeah. She's going to work enough to pay the bills. Needless to say, he and I don't speak.
earthygreen 6 months ago
@HPfan75 I can sympathize somewhat. My father sounds like your father. But he left my mother only 3 yrs ago. He and her fought near the end, but it was quite obvious it wasn't worthy divorcing over. He was used to getting his way and she was tired of his badmouthing everything she did for him. She became very unpleasent to be around and one day he left. Cheated on her. And after her working 40+ years, into a state of disablity, he feels he has no responsibility to her. Bread and Ranch dressing--
earthygreen 6 months ago
@HPfan75 At last an earth mother realises that little fact and isn't all 'It's MY baby cos I grew it in MY body.' Good to see that us blokes are finally recognised. And as you felt the need to insult me... Fuck yourself and die of syphillis you fucking whorebag!
rattusvirtualis 6 months ago
Just bitches and whores dude. Bitches and whores.
icegoomba 6 months ago
He has COMPLETE AND UTTER POWER to cover his penis. She has complete and utter power to birth a child. This is basic science. Ejaculate in a fertile woman and there is a great liklihood she'll become pregnant. Don't want to be a father, COVER YOUR PENIS MR. I'M NOT IN CONTROL.
earthygreen 7 months ago
@earthygreen And SHE has complete and utter power to say 'no' if he's not wearing a condom. Don't want to be a mother? Cross your fucking legs!
rattusvirtualis 6 months ago 4
@rattusvirtualis I guess you weren't watching the video.
The whole point is they WANT the child. She doesn't have to cross her legs as she HAS THE POWER TO ABORT THE CHILD OR KEEP IT, if she wants to KEEP IT, she has the POWER TO MAKE HIM PAY.
You're missing the point and grasping as straws. I think it's hypocritical as hell that SHE can kill her child but *HE* can't. But what he *CAN* do is keep his pecker in his pants or cover it with a condom. Or clip his jingle-bells.
earthygreen 6 months ago
@rattusvirtualis I get the point of the video. I get the hypocracy that women can dictate what men do when men can't hardly do the same to women. Father's can make dead-beat mother's pay or go to jail... but I BELIEVE in the fact that it is heavily one-sided. I'm a divorced mother. My husband wanted a child. I got pregnant. He left. He decided he didn't want his son and I didn't trust him to be alone with our son. So he's not around, and I don't ask for support. Even thru homelessness.
earthygreen 6 months ago
I know we're supposed to think of black people when we hear about "irresponsible fathers" or "welfare mothers" but these aren't problems that just came out of a vacuum because poor/black people just happen to be acting "irresponsible",
it happened as the result of deindustrialization and the chronic joblessness that exists for low-skilled people in this situation.
AndroidPolitician 7 months ago
I think if the rules were changed so the man can opt out, you would see a lot guys just busting a nut in women and telling them to piss off when they got pregnant. Plus with all the people the think abortion is murder, you'd have a lot of fatherless kids out there.
rexxthunder 7 months ago
@rexxthunder Men shouldn't "opt out" they should OPT-IN. Women (who have complete control of reproduction) should not be allowing themselves to become pregnant with a man who has not opted-in. With complete power comes complete responsibility.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago 30
@manwomanmyth Women don't have *complete* control over reproduction. Men can cover their penis with a condom, snip the bells, or simply don't have intercourse. There is a result to sex that is more than orgasm or simply a pleasant experience. We're all adults here & we know what the RISKs are. The courts, if they're going to come to the defense of the innocents, that they may have a decent life, need to protect the father from getting financially raped. There's no good reason they don't.
earthygreen 6 months ago
@earthygreen No. Men DO have control of whether or not they ejaculate inside a woman, they DO NOT have ANY control of reproduction. The pill, the morning-after pill and abortion law, means that babies are conceived and/or born or not, entirely on a woman's whim.
I think the film is very clear on this and I don't understand why many people struggle with this concept. It shows how ingrained is the false concept of 'equal male responsibility' for 'unequal female choices'.
I agree about the courts.
manwomanmyth 6 months ago 14
@manwomanmyth
I agree. I had a situation like this occur. Fact is, when it came down to whether or not to keep the child I had absolutely no say, and the mother was quite honestly in no postiion financially or in her support systems to properly care for the child with any degree of certainty. Thus, I will shoulder the responsibility for a choice i advocated strongly against for the welfare of the child.
PullMyPeeper 5 months ago
@manwomanmyth Woman have the right to abort, so men should have the right to walk away too. Also woman are allowed to dump their kids and get away with it.
brownie1982ad 1 week ago
@earthygreen THIS IS NO different from what females have. Cannot women also Use a Female condom? Have their tubes tied? Or simply keep her legs closed? Males need to have reproductive choice as well.
WisdomThroughLogic 3 months ago
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@WisdomThroughLogic They have reproductive choice. Have you not read all of my comments? Probably not.
earthygreen 3 months ago
@rexxthunder you would also see alot of women choosing not ot open thier legs and do their due diligence. Also you would have less women trying to muck up a relationship and vie for child support money as a safety net, and in turn she will have to do her due dilligence and work out her problems at home. Too many men easily gfet left for so many stupid reason and when the woman leaves she often takes hte children with them
RetaliationEffect 4 months ago in playlist Single Mothers
I'd never really given this issue much thought, but you make an excellent case.
StudentOfObjectivism 7 months ago
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“Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other.” (Koran 4:34)
How very, very true!
sardanapolis 7 months ago
Sorry MWM but if you guys relate everything to money, i dunno. what to say...
cr4yv3n 7 months ago
Though MWM makes some good points. This one is wrong. Condoms are how men who don't want children make that choice.
greedyfoot 7 months ago
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@Clevergirl2011
"some women have no choice because a man doesn't want them or they are getting SO close to the end of their fertility that they have no other choice."
What about adoption?
"There is no such thing as duping a man unless she PRETENDS to love him."
What about a woman who lies about being on birth control in order to get pregnant? That isn't 'duping' a man, to a certain degree?
PullMyPeeper 7 months ago
wow, look at that mother at 11:38, please tell me this is an actress, she doesn't care at all.
biakuya 7 months ago
@biakuya If only.
StudentOfObjectivism 7 months ago
I think your videos are great.
amido7 7 months ago
my beaten down mangina friend was told that his girlfriend had a surgey and it was 100% impossible for pregnancy, her mother confirmed this also with her sister there also and guess what happened? pyschopathic withches should be in prison, e being a complete mangina now has to work 2 jobs to be flat broke
thisgame2 8 months ago
The natural consequence of sex is pregnancy! So if you are reckless enough to ignore that very significant fact and risk casual sex, whose to take responsibility for that? Also what about the ethics of abortion and birth control? The rule is simple, always see sex in terms of its naturally intended consequence and never trust a loose woman. A loose woman is a woman that won't consider the potential consequences for her and will later to think that you are the one responsible for having sex!
agent0sephiroth 8 months ago
The idea that men have no control over reproduction is absolutely ridiculous. Heterosexual intercourse is generally considered a activity that can lead to pregnancy. My advice to simon is that he get a hold of himself.
paris4185 8 months ago
@paris4185 And my advice to you is that you attempt to appreciate reality. Not only can a man not make himself infertile with the same ease as a woman, but ask yourself a simple question: if a man has sex with a woman and is concerned that a pregnancy may happen, what can he do about it? The answer is nothing.
Now, under the same circumstances, what can a woman do about it? Oh yes, the morning after pill.
The issue is about who has CONTROL, and it's not a difficult issue to understand.
manwomanmyth 8 months ago 5
@manwomanmyth "what can he do about it?" Wear a freaking condom!!! I keep telling my son I don't care if she says, "I am infertile on 4 types of birth control and never want kids he still needs to wear a freaking condom." And if you don't want to wear a condom then go home and masturbate.
BurnTheBurka 8 months ago
@BurnTheBurka I'm amazed at how often this line is delivered: "wear a condom!". As if the condom was the panacea for male reproductive rights.
If the condom is so brilliant, why did we bother to invent a female pill? Or the coil? Or femidoms? Or the morning after pill?
When a condom fails to work for whatever reason, or even if one isn't used, women have options whereas men have none. It's not rocket science.
manwomanmyth 8 months ago
@manwomanmyth Vasectomy? Would a male pill solve the problem? Probably not because people are irresponsible. I think it is unfair that guys have no say once the baby is conceived but as far birth control goes guys do have an option and that is the condom with spermicide. If you choose not to use it then you get what you deserve.
I have no sympathy for a guy who doesn't take the minimal step of a condom. Just as I have no sympathy for the women not using birth control. Be responsible.
BurnTheBurka 8 months ago
@BurnTheBurka That said I believe that once that baby is made the man should have the "male abortion option". That means if the guy says "get an abortion" and she won't, he can sign his paternal rights away and have no obligation to the child. I even think that if the woman wants an abortion and the man says no the woman should be required to have the baby and give him/her to the father. "Mom" will be able to sign her parental rights away and have no responsibility to the child.
BurnTheBurka 8 months ago
@BurnTheBurka The condom isn't the answer and never could be. I've explained why in this film and others. In the situations I specify, all condoms do is allow women to be irresponsible and then enable us to lay the blame squarely on the man. It's an easy and false burden which successfully targets men as being responsible for women's poor choices.
Men and children don't "deserve" the damage brought about by women's irresponsibility and the "wear a condom" mantra simply doesn't cut it.
manwomanmyth 8 months ago
@manwomanmyth I'll watch the vids but my instinct is to say that condoms with spermicide are 95% effective. I agree men have fewer rights and are treated unfairly in many of these situations but there are three options (condom, vasectomy, and abstinence) that men have to protect themselves right now and frankly if I was a young man I would not put my life in the hands of a slut I picked up at the bar.
Remember, I was responding to a ? regarding what a man can do to prevent pregnancy.
BurnTheBurka 8 months ago
@BurnTheBurka I think we largely agree, except where it comes to our attitude to men.
We don't say to women: "you have three options: condom, hysterectomy,abstinence". Instead we do everything possible to offer as many other options as possible, including a legal framework to give women choices over and above simple prevention.
Men DO have to protect themselves, because no one else will. After all, men don't have "fewer" rights in this area, they have none.
manwomanmyth 8 months ago
@manwomanmyth I support a male pill though I found the part about the problems with the hormone pill funny. The female pill isn't all that great in terms of side effects but it is better than unwanted pregnancy.I tried Depo shot once, it was the worst thing I ever did.There will be side effects to a male pill and men will have to make the same choices women do.Women will be glad to share the responsibility of birth control with men.
BurnTheBurka 8 months ago
@BurnTheBurka I always find the issue of side-effects to the pill a bit of a non-issue. Not because they are not important or even sometimes severe, but simply because, as you say, they are better than unwanted pregnancy.
I liken it to the "hassle" and "burden" and "problems" of being a wealthy landowner having the headache and stress of managing the hundreds of tenants on his land and keeping track of thousands in income per month etc. Some "responsibilities" are privileges heavily disguised.
manwomanmyth 8 months ago
@manwomanmyth Further, the idea of women being "glad to share the responsibility" is not really true. It's men that would be "glad" for even the opportunity to have the same control.
Women have a monopoly on creating children and no monopolist is happy to suddenly start sharing. Women would be "glad" only up until the point she wants to get pregnant, then she'd by "mad".
Women currently enjoy the enormous and life-changing power of being the sole decision-maker in producing children.
manwomanmyth 8 months ago
@BurnTheBurka Why should a woman's reproductive rights include forcing a man into parenthood after an unwanted pregnancy occurs? How would giving a man an opt out clause take away from a woman's right to get an abortion if she pleases? Why is it that when you talk about reproduction women have all of the rights and men have all of the responsibilities?
roharatube 8 months ago
@roharatube The law today is simple, if you get her PG and she has the kid you pay,end of story. Given that fact, men need to take control by wearing a condom,getting snipped(after a certain age),or keeping it in their pants. There is current reality and there is theory. Male equality in reproduction is a theory right now and theory won't protect you if you pick up a slut with dreams of the perfect family.
BurnTheBurka 8 months ago
@roharatube Now to theory. I am far more radical than a mere opt out. Here is my fair plan. If she gets PG and insists upon being a mom then the man should have the right to sign away his rights and have no obligation to pay child support and his identity is kept secret. Conversely, if she wants an abortion and he wants to be a dad she will be required to have the baby and sign over her rights with her identity kept secret. No whining later.
BurnTheBurka 8 months ago
@BurnTheBurka So it seems that you agree with what is being said here. Actualy, even I would not even go so far to force a woman to carry a child if the father wanted it. There is a case to be made for the risk she takes on while pregnant even though those risks are not the reason most women get abortions. All I propose is that men should not be forced into the role of father-which is defined by law as that of a walking ATM machine-if women have a choice to refuse motherhood.
roharatube 8 months ago
@roharatube I do not believe that all men are sex crazed beasts out to get sex & will rape you if denied.Nor do I believe that all women are baby making sluts with the goal of imprisoning men.I do believe the law is unfair and needs to change but that doesn't excuse either sex irresponsibility esp. in regard to casual sex.You don't know the person,you do not know if they will respect your rights.People have their own agendas.Just be responsible for protecting yourself, don't be a victim.
BurnTheBurka 8 months ago
@BurnTheBurka I think a father should have an opportunity to sign off on his rights/responsibilities as most men do generally but to be honest were I to have a woman pregnant by me and I wanted the child (which I would) and she didn't (but couldn't abort it because of me) I don't would not trust her to carry it to term "properly". I've seen many newborns who's mothers drank, smoked, did drugs etc and frankly it is heartbreaking to look at them and know their lives are already ruined.
MTguy1 8 months ago
@MTguy1 Is MT, Montana? I grew up there and graduated from MSU.
It makes me sick what some women do to their unborn babies. If we are serious about giving men equal rights then we have to give them the ability to keep the baby. The only option in the case where the woman is that uncaring and irresponsible is to place her in some sort of confinement. Sadly, that would be the only logical outcome.
BurnTheBurka 8 months ago
@BurnTheBurka
It is yes, and like I say I can understand the concept and the reasoning you mention but even ignoring the practicalities that would come into play (health concerns, expenses blah blah blah) again I am just saying that a woman who doesn't want a child but carries it for 9 months can and to my mind probably will do more harm to it and walk away with no responsibilities and you with no recourse if she doesn't care & they can already abdicate enough responsibilities to my mind.
MTguy1 8 months ago
@MTguy1
A father CAN relinquish parental rights...but he has to legally declare he is the father. If he does so, even if the mother indicates to the judge that she desires no child support (either b/c he cannot provide it or they do not want contact)...the judge will act in what he thinks is the 'CHILDS best interest' i.e. he very well might STILL require the father to play child support...all the while having NO custodial rights.
PullMyPeeper 7 months ago
...this is fundamentally wrong, imo...and all you hear from women is...'dont want a kid...keep it in your pants," which is inherently sexist. Last I heard it takes TWO to make a baby, and as it is the mother's SOLE decision ultimately to keep give up a child, he is essentially held 'hostage' to her decision...with no rights or protection of his own. That needs to change, imo.
PullMyPeeper 7 months ago
@PullMyPeeper
As every one of us is well aware... However this isn't what any of us is referring to when we say that a father should be able to wash his hands of the responsibilities in the same time frame that the mother can wash her hands of hers'. Obviously we're not saying that we should all have the same "options" that we have now.
MTguy1 7 months ago
@MTguy1 But why blame the woman for her bad habits? Blame yourself first for having sex with such a woman.
Khamomil 7 months ago
@Khamomil
So in the set out hypothetical situation wherein a woman is pregnant and doesn't want it and I do (which I argued against) thereby forcing her to carry it to term her intentionally trying to damage the fetus is a "bad habit" or conversely it would be my fault for apparently seeking out women who are of low enough moral fiber to drink and smoke while pregnant in the first place? Reread what was said before you jump to blaming men (me) in defense of a hypothetical woman white knight
MTguy1 7 months ago
@MTguy1 It makes me sick to think about the unborn child who is the subject of such a tug of war. If you've ever heard your parents argue and scream at each other when you were a kid you know what I mean. Many adults involved in such disputes are selfish and have no respect for the individual they procreated. Is it so weird to say "don't fnck any woman you wouldn't want as the mother of your kids?" If you want a child look for a suitable wife who doesn't drink & smoke. Simple.
Khamomil 7 months ago
@Khamomil why men are more voluntarily single is not only because of the legal misandry they have witnessed, but the gynocentric emphasis and the lack of fairness and concern in relationships, marriage or not. And the "look for a suitable wife who doesn't drink and smoke" are less and less---men are also being more selective about their mates because there are many US and UK women are not marriage material, simply put.
Wytchfinde 7 months ago
@Wytchfinde I know everything is so fncked up. Manipulating people and using emotional blackmail after pretending one loved a person are truly horrible things to do. I think there should be a symposium of lay people (NO ACADEMICS, SHRINKS etc.) to discuss in good faith about the issues that pit men against women. Look everybody is at everybody's throat cuz of race, religion and now even the sexes are at war. This is a disaster. We need to reconcile, make peace, B4 it's too late.
Khamomil 7 months ago
@MTguy1 How would a woman who doesn't drink and smoke force herself to do it just to harm the baby? Your hypothetical cannot happen in real life. How would you force a woman to carry out a pregnancy? Why would you want to rear a child without a mother?
Don't expect women you meet in bars or clubs and have casual sex with to be model mothers. You can't have it both ways. Pay a pro for casual sex & don't look for a future wife & mother of yr kids in the wrong places. Abstinence is good too.
Khamomil 7 months ago
@Khamomil
Honest to God dude...go back and read the COMMENTS! Someone else said that instead of being able to opt out financially a father should be able to force the woman to carry a pregnancy to term, to which I said it was a BAD IDEA. Get it through your head white knight, I did not advocate casual sex, I did not advocate forcing a woman to carry an unwanted child to term since you seem to have a problem with reading comprehension or you're just too lazy to go back three more comments
MTguy1 7 months ago
@Khamomil
I will spell it out for you. Having a child with a woman who you don't know or don't trust in any way shape or form to carry it to term in any circumstance is not only a bad idea but stupid, that you seem to not understand this from context is stupifying. Seriously go attack someone else who is actually saying what you are arguing against if you feel so damn strongly about it...
MTguy1 7 months ago
@Khamomil
Also, ignoring the fact that I never said what you're saying I did to answer your question "How would a woman who doesn't drink and smoke force herself to do it just to harm the baby?" It happens every day, excessive drinking has been a well known way of getting rid of a pregnancy since ancient Rome at the least, so grow up. Why would I want to rear a child without a mother? Why do so many women want to rear a child without a father?"
MTguy1 7 months ago
@Khamomil Then you would have to accept there are a lot of women having casual sex, and men that "don't get none" are considered losers in the sexual arena. And considering that there are women that have skewered and hypocritical standards for men concerning sex and commitment, as well as having tremendous sexual reproductive power, you don't seem to understand how difficult it is for men as far as sexual acceptibility and being desired. I see that many women NOW want commitment are ones that
Wytchfinde 7 months ago
@Khamomil are typical single moms that most men don't want to have a serious relationship with because the children are not biologically there. When women want commitment, there is a huge price men have to pay and in Western culture it is often men that are seen to acquiesce in order to get even crumbs of affection and attention. Women pretty good at withdrawing and even social/intimately punishing men for not affording more of the balance of power in relationships to them. One of the reasons
Wytchfinde 7 months ago
@Khamomil
So a woman as such isn't responsible at all?
Wytchfinde 7 months ago
Finally, why are there more birth control options for women? It is easier to block the sperm than it is to stop sperm production completely. Also, some men are weird about their balls. I have meet men that refuse to get their male dog fixed. Are these guys willing to fix themselves?
I don't know any single sluts but the married women I know are the ones who take the responsibility of birth control until the family is complete and the pill's side effects can be harsh.
BurnTheBurka 8 months ago
@manwomanmyth
this is the reason why societies in different corners of the world frown upon sex outside marriage (except for prostitutes). Casual sex is not a valid pursuit and you fully appreciate the dangers for the male as well as for the possible child. This should be reason enough to understand that sex without commitment and without love is bad for everybody. The sex act was a reward for commitment. You need to mature a bit.
Khamomil 7 months ago
What makes it even worse is that the criticism of David Cameron's article bashing 'deadbeat dads' on fathers day was not over how outrageous his statement was but how hes being two faced and helping out runaway dads who remarry with a tax break for married couples (which really is an attempt to hold families together and so is a good thing). Also criticism on how he's now charging women to phone up the CSA saying how hes making it harder for women to get hold of child support. Fucking outrageous
wranglers575 8 months ago
More male bashing recently on fathers day, seems to more about bashing them rather than celebrating them nowadays. Also I know someone who's similar to the young guy who had sex in a car example, he had to drop out of school even though he was fairly bright and could have gone to university and to make matters worse the girl who's pregant is only in and on and off relationship with him so the baby to be born isn't even in a stable relationship :/
wranglers575 8 months ago
@wranglers575 A sad but very common story.
manwomanmyth 8 months ago
Your only worthwhile comment in your litany of denial posing as criticism?
"a woman who purposely sets out to have a child alone is being selfish. However, some women have no choice because a man doesn't want them or they are getting SO close to the end of their fertility that they have no other choice"
This epitomises the wholly selfish mindset of the irresponsible mother. The mindset that you, and millions of women like you, support.
manwomanmyth 8 months ago
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its about time men get equal rights to women...
themaniusedtob 8 months ago
This is stupid.
Both are responsible.
"It was a one-night stand." - Then don't have one-night stands, or at least ise a glove..
Frankly, if I were a god, I'd make creating children a pain and not a pleasure. Then it would be done for the child and not for oneself.
Kurtlane 8 months ago
You blamed criminal bahaviour on fatherless early on an pretend it didn't happen the rest of the vid >:( It's not a matter of family, it's a matter of education and money
Coquipirate 9 months ago
today women use getting pregnant as a carrier a woman on welfare makes more money then most working men its sad lazy and pathedic so much for women wanting a fair and equal world all thay wont is a free lunch and some1 to blame it on
allhailmegatron1 9 months ago
Forget about women "not exercising due care", think 'premeditated life time entrapment'. I know women who have done this. How do I know? Because they told me themselves and expected congratulations. Boys as young as 12 should be taught that a woman can change their lives forever without their consent. The men that I know who had this done to them became stressed out only after the fact.
lillie1990am 9 months ago
@lillie1990am Today in the western world men are raised up to be oblivious and vulnerable to female exploitation and extortion, and many women take advantage of that.
I been advocating for this to be taught to men in sex education for awhile now, they NEED to know this.
Awareness of this issue can be a great protection, and in our current situation, the only protection we have.
ManSpeakOut 9 months ago
@lillie1990am Either that or encourage fathers to teach this to their sons.
I for one would teach my son this if I ever had one in the future.
ManSpeakOut 9 months ago
I'm a woman and I agree with this entirely. It's true that a lot of women try to use their pregnancy to make a man pay child support, when a lot of the time, said women use that support and spend it on themselves, other than the child. It's just a way for women like that to get easy money and have everything dropped in their laps, when in the end, the man AND the child both get hurt from it. It's despicable for a woman to do such a thing.
SirRazael 9 months ago 25
@SirRazael you are a woman? why did u choose the nick...SIRrazael?
Kenshiroit 9 months ago
@Kenshiroit It was something that kind of stuck afterwhile xD. I first changed it on the chat client IMVU and put 'Sir' in front of 'Razael' when i changed my name. Then it just kind of stuck and i used it since :P.
~ Raz
SirRazael 9 months ago
Im getting a vasectomy cause I dont want kids and never will. I want power of my reproduction. And if a woman says Im stupid for doing so then fuck her, she has reproductive rights and I should too
Dickbaum 9 months ago 2
the girl talking at 9:31 makes me sick
nicazzo 10 months ago
I think that this video has many good ideas, but I'd just like to raise a point. As a woman, I DON'T feel that in all cases a woman has TOTAL power over her body, over whether or not she has a child. Think rape, think arranged marriage, think the Roman Catholic Church. Have I got a point?
TheDeadlyDelilah 10 months ago
I just want health families back and Single mother homes ain't cutting it. The system now is failing us. System need to change. " If you change the rules of the game, you change the way the game is played" The current system promotes single mother homes. Every society that is a matriarchy is in turmoil.
Tsugua21 11 months ago
I think we can give a huge percentage of credit to that man hating bitch Oprah Wimfrey for about 25 years of telling women to hate men, get married then pregnant then utlitmately sue the man for divorce and everything he has or ever will have. After that demonized the father to his own children, do her best to get them to hate him as much a she does and make every attempt to make sure he can't see the kids. Even if he has court ordered visitation. Now WE have to deal with all these cunts!
Xcorgi 11 months ago
SOLUTION: END welfare, alimony, child support, affirmative action and make abortion ILLEGAL. Women will only value hard working men and only have unprotected sex (or sex period) with their husbands. Single moms and divorces will disappear because there would be no incentive. Single moms act as Matriarchies in that they are in charge of how the next generation of kids are raised and are bad in that they produce non productive men and failing communities.
Tsugua21 11 months ago
@Tsugua21 And when that couple has children and the man starts beating those children, and the women has no money or work because she's been out of the workforce as she has children, and she's stuck? Then what.
Just because there are people who abuse the system doesn't mean we just remove the system.
ceratlc 11 months ago
@ceratlc R U SERIOUS, MOST men don't beat their wives and their children. U watch to much T.V., do you even know a man who beats his family (U don't). MOST men never even hit a women, even when being hit by a women. Liberals and Feminist lied to us. Look at the stats, most divorces are file by wives under "no fault" which is means that she just doesn't feel like being married and wants half his money, the house and the kids. Kids need 2 parents (look at the stats), not just one selfish parent.
Tsugua21 11 months ago
@Tsugua21 Holy fuck. I would hope most don't. I'm just saying it happens. And yeah, actually, I do know a man who's beat his family. OF COURSE MOST DON'T. SOME DO. Some men also cheat on their wives (as in my family, cheat while the wife is pregnant even). So in that case, my mother should have stayed and put up with it? Regardless, she raised her children just fine and without state care or child support because my dad WAS useless. (continued)
ceratlc 11 months ago
@ceratlc Why do women choose men, who will cheat and beat them? Women shouldn't have sex until marriage and she will find out who really loves her. With no government help, women will ONLY date, marry and get pregnant by EMPLOYED men who truly love them (like my grandma). Single motherhood is hard, toxic for the kid and costly for most fathers (everybody loses). When are women going to learn, marriage is not for the WOMEN it is for the KIDS. Most men are good guys. T.V. has lied to u
Tsugua21 11 months ago
@Tsugua21 Actually, apparently my LIFE has lied to me. I don't own or watch television. Thanks, though.
I don't disagree with marriage, I'm just saying that sometimes a person's true colours don't come out until the children are born and it's too late.
My point is that saying that eliminating welfare and making abortion illegal will fix everything is the dumbest goddamn thing I've heard in my life. People won't magically be abstinent. Who'd buy a car without test driving it?
ceratlc 11 months ago
@ceratlc Welfare, child support, alimony and abortion are very new (only about 60 years old) and the divorce rate and single mother homes has sky rocketed, since these things have been put in place (They don't work). Before these things women were very picky about the men they choose and choose and better life partner (like my grandma), U say that "People won't magically be abstinent." I say women will, until marriage. Remember men like sex, women use sex a weapon.
Tsugua21 11 months ago
@Tsugua21 Some men are still, in fact, useless. NOT ALL. Some. And there has to be something in place to help victims in those cases. On the same token, I think that sometimes women should be paying alimony and child support, but it's rarely the case that they have had the opportunity to be in a better position than the man.
ceratlc 11 months ago
@ceratlc If some men are useless then stop having unprotected sex with useless men. Women get pregnant by garbage and get mad that he's garbage. That make no damn sense.
Tsugua21 11 months ago
@Tsugua21 Like I said. Sometimes a person's true colours don't come out until it's too late. Besides. Just because a person makes one mistake we shouldn't have anything in place to support them? That seems a little extreme.
Scores of these women having children they shouldn't be having are uneducated and religious. Let's get rid of religion and let them have the damn abortion they need.
ceratlc 11 months ago
@ceratlc We give women a chance and the power to make decisions about birth control and they failed, and they get pregnant by dead beat and complain about. Abortions don't work, because most women don't have them.
Tsugua21 11 months ago
@Tsugua21 Exactly. Hence why I said why we should eliminate religion. Let the women have abortions. Free, too. I fully agree with the fact that there are women who shouldn't be having kids, so let's help them to not. But don't take away the safety nets for the women that deserve and require them.
ceratlc 11 months ago
@ceratlc Religion is not the point, I'm not religious. Without safety nets I guarantee women will choose better mates, with safety nets women will choose l losers and complain about it. Why do women deserve safety nets, you deserve what you earn and work for (A vagina a not a free pass through life, neither is a dick) if women require safety nets then that means their not equal to men, are burden to tax payers (that's who's paying for the free abortions you want).
Tsugua21 11 months ago
@Tsugua21 No, a vagina is not a free pass. These safety nets should be in place for whomever genuinely needs them. I disagree with women's rights. And with men's rights. I believe in human rights, end of story. If there's a kid who shouldn't be around, TWO people fucked up. If someone is a victim, I don't care what genitalia is involved, the victim should receive help. And if men took responsibility that a kid shouldn't be conceived, he'd have wrapped it. Two people still at fault.
ceratlc 11 months ago
@ceratlc The funny part is that your right, men who go raw with a women is at fault, but the problem that many men are slowing getting wise and eventually will not get women pregnant or marry them, I'm 31 years old and most of my guy friends have no kids and are not married, because it's to much of a risk. Many women are sluts so they trap a men, so men are spoiled by the easy sex and won't comment. Too much government help is bad and makes people lazy and not accountable for their actions.
Tsugua21 11 months ago
@ceratlc U said "Like I said. Sometimes a person's true colours don't come out until it's too late." How come i can talk to a guy for 30 minutes and tell u if he's a loser or not and it' takes most women 6 years and 2 kids. That statement "Sometimes a person's true colours don't come out until it's too late." tell me that most women are either very spoiled or very stupid, there are always red flags.
Tsugua21 11 months ago
@Tsugua21 You did not just call my very intelligent, hard-working mother spoiled and stupid.
He liked to have a good time, but wanted to have kids with her. Then, while pregnant with her second child, he decided the bar and his new girlfriend were his new priorities. He changed his mind about parenthood. And that's her fault? Uh.. no. That's his fault. If a man's not ready to have kids, he should be wrapping his junk. Period. If he's useless, he is useless, and that is entirely his own fault.
ceratlc 11 months ago
@Tsugua21 You, and this video, are working to make it the woman's fault if the man has kids. I don't care if a woman says she's on the pill. If you don't know her well enough to know for damn sure she is, and you don't want a kid, put on a rubber. If that woman is a greedy bitch who is going to divorce you and take your money, don't marry her. I shouldn't have to use sex as a weapon. Women like it just as much as men. Men need to take responsibility just as much as women. Use a rubber. Holy fuck
ceratlc 11 months ago
@ceratlc Your looking at it wrong it's not about mom vs dad (which is want your making it out to be), if you love you kids you will only have your kids by a employed man who loves you and wants to have kids. (IT"S FOR THE KIDS) Having kids is not about the mother or father it's about the kids and kids NEED BOTH Parents! You choose a good man for your kids, not you. I choose a good women for my kids. If a women gives birth and doesn't care who the father is, she doesn't care about her kids.
Tsugua21 11 months ago
@Tsugua21 I'm not! I'm just saying, sometimes people make a mistake that they don't realize is a mistake until it is too late, and then one party needs out. That's the atypical situation, yes, but it happens. Even if you wait and only have kids with a person who loves you and who says he wants kids. It can still end badly where one party needs to get out, and that's what those safety nets are for! Yeah, typically, choose well. There will always be the fuck-ups, too, though, unfortunately.
ceratlc 11 months ago
@ceratlc As long as only women can control fertility it should always be the one responsible for the birth of the child.
Until men can equally control their fertility thats how it should be.
There is so many options women have while men only have 2. Condom and vasectomy, so even trying to put equal responsibility on men when they have little power in terms of production and women have so much is wrong on so many levels.
ManSpeakOut 11 months ago
@ManSpeakOut That isn't true! Women are not the only one who can control fertility! The top two options for birth control are 1. female hormonal treatment, and 2. condoms. They are the only options above 90%. As far as I'm concerned, anything below 90 hardly counts as "effective" so don't go propagating that women are so advantaged in birth control.
ceratlc 11 months ago
@ceratlc When you can shut down your fertility while your partner cannot, that is full control in production.
You will never get pregnant when infertile.
That is a certainty, women are the only ones that have an option that works 100%.
Considering on how men have two options at 90% thats all we consider we have.
Others is too risky, no man would do an option below 90% success rate, since its men who has to pay.
ManSpeakOut 11 months ago
@ManSpeakOut Actually, nothing (NOTHING) is 100% and if you think that having you vagina ripped apart and a creature living in you for nine months, then having to raise a person isn't paying, you're clearly on crack. Not to mention that many women don't even ask for money from the man if they're not in a relationship. Yeah, some might, but you're acting like every woman on earth is a leeching bitch.
Men need to take responsibility for themselves too. No baby? Use what you have: a condom.
ceratlc 11 months ago