kinda weird how they were both adopted, but you could make a case that they are legit brothers because they have such a strong resemblence to each other
@frasermack18 their adopted father Bob ran a fostering program where he took many troubled boys in from the streets. I don't think they look that much alike I believe Frank is part Puerto Rican (that's not a tan) his last name was Juarez b4 he got it changed. Ken is from GA. they R both althelte and hard-headed fighters who R better on the ground but I think the sim. stop there.
haha exposed u mad u son? haha if im a bitch come down here. im from manchester lad ur a wana be internet gangsta andif ur guna say shit say it 2 my face and not over youtube
Pyro shut the fuck up. Your an internet gangsta too spitting all this garbage about how you'll do this and that. You've never seen a glock my friend, never owned one or touched one. I used to live in Bushwick, Brooklyn New York and I can promise you this area is harder than any parts of the UK. So stfu talking shit to people online. You're done, you can leave now.
haha lad u 2 thick think of ur own words? and lad u ever been the uk? haha so ive never seen owned or tuched a glock haha ok lad. and lad i wasnt talkin 2 u so shut the fuck up. and as i said u got a prob with me come down here and ill sort tha problem out
...? Son. Shut the fuck up. "Ghetto Soldier" Your a white kid saying your ghetto? You sound like a straight up fucking idiot. Your only saying "Come down here N ill sort it out" because im never gonna come. In in New York, You know... 5 boroughs of death and all that. Where you from? Some faggot town in the UK. Hahhahaha fucking eat it up you dick sucking prick. A glock, hahaha, PROVE IT.
i will prove it when i shove it down ur throwt and pull the trigger. haha im from manchester and u do realise the are shit loads of white people that live in the getto. and lad u can shut the fuc up coz u probs came from a rich family and never ot in a scap in ur life and its snd if u dont come dwn here coz im comin new york in a year or so
U know nothing about anything..now i know ur juss a bulshiter glock when ur 5... and im the one acting like a gangster..you juss showed me and everyone else that u aint shit but a bitch..post all u want you've been exposed pal
lad u can suck the sweat from my balls. ur a soft prick thats actin like an internet gangsta. here lad i live in st helens neer manchester come down here and see wat happnes lad and i couldnt arm bar ur dick lad coz u aint got 1. haha lad ide nock u out with 1 jab from my right hand.
haha u no newt about uk do ya haha ur fuckin soft haha u new wat a glock was when u was 7 i had a gock when i was 5. haha ive had a lot better girls than uve had m8. wtf is it with the tea just coz were from the britain u think we like drinkin tea haha
Germany started ww2 and was in the middle or shitten on ur country when the good old U.S.A came and cleared house for u.. thats right U.S.A THE HOME OF THE TWIN TOWERS..So shut that mouth filled with crooked green teeth cuz im done.. ill nut on ur mothers chest..G'day!
fat haha na lad i aint fat, haha lad u might of started world war 2 but we was the 1's tha destroyed the twin towers haha ur from new york so wa haha ur a fuckin pussy u dont no wat a glock is and u prob aint ever had a girl and seriusly lad u are 1 soft son of a bitch so stop actin fuckin cocky and if the british are so soft come down here and ill turn ur insides out bitch
Ricky Hatton and Michael Bisping are the pride of U.K... hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhaah....as for never having a girl...the uglyies girl i had is prolly netter then anything u pretend to have relations with both of those guys wont be the same..and buddy a glock is a gun..i knew that when i was 7...ur not even close to my lvl..and for blsplr...you couldent arm bar my dick if he juss went 3 rounds with gina carrano...and pyro..do u even know what the fuck is goin on?
buddy ur the fat kid i dont gotta argue wit u..with comments like "the only fight u ever won was the 1 with ya mam trying to get her into bed" ur juss a blow job face it pal..Im from NY where we dont call eachother LAD AND MATE..where are u from UK?... We took ur tea and threw it over board hahahahahaahah...ur welcome for WW2
Lol.. actually cant beleave I'm argueing with ppl over a computer..anyone who wants to fight gimmie ur address ill send u a plane ticket to NY and ill throw u a beaten when u get off the plane...G'day mates!
haha pin head??? wtf haha fuckin muppit if ur guna unsult me do it proper, pmsl hood rat? lad come down here en to my hood and we will se wat happens sayin tha its obv u aint got the balls, ur probs a little fat kid that wants 2 act hard and p.s that wasnt me tha left tha comment it was me m8
Ill do u like Hendo did Bisping...ppl dont call eachother "mate" in the ghetto....keep up with ur assumptions..ive made more money and won more fights then u ever will..im done talken to you nobodys..I WON AND I ALWAYS WILL WIN
first off pal youd have to land,and we both know u prolly throw rubber band punches...the two ppl that commented me back werent even talken smack so maybe we have a misunderstanding if not i personally dont care
everyones commenting..and no one knows nothing..ken and frank are adopted there not even really related..and ken was a total prick to frank growing up..and if i have any typos..i dont care cuz ill prolly be able to arm bar you in about 20 secs
Damn King, getting a little emotional like Lesnar. And to flat out say you'd arm bar us in 20 seconds...hmm... Your obviously not good enough, otherwise you'd be on PPV. Prolly took a few classes of MMA. MAYBE won A tournament or 2. But it's a big world out there home boy. I learn from experience that there's some baaad ppl out there. So it's best you keep your mouth shut, so you aren't embarrassed.
The only thing you could arm bar is your own dick and that would take about 15 secs to wear that limp bitch out.Come out of your moms house when you grow up sport!! lmfao
ken doesn't hate frank. not sure if it's mutual though. i know they had a rough history, but ken's always been the more mature one. he's buried the hatchet
my friend's 2 year old daughter could beat up ken sharock. he has been a joke sence he left the wwf and went back to mma. where frank is a real fighter he knock outare my ken tap out in 3 seconds.
Nothing enrage me more than someone like you insulting MMA fighters behind your PC. Let me know when you have some time, I'll pay for your fare and take you to Frank so you can say that to his face. Afterwards, you can tell me how he re-arranged your face.
Internet tough guy! Not really face to face tough, I would say so. Not sure why your analogy when I ahve not uttered any insults or challenges to you. Unlike you I di have respect of people even you...all I said was if you are so tough, let me take you to Frank in San Jose and you can call him all the names you just did to his face. And as far as Frank did not want any of you back then....please I am not in the mood for bad jokes.
my point: he fought them, but he did not BEAT them.
your point: Yes, and this explains why he didn't BEAT them
your explanation: Frank wouldn't have either.
i think i made perfect sense, as you did not explain why ken lost. also technically in the last ten years frank beat jeremy horn, tito ortiz and elvis sinosic. those were the top three. ken beat kimo, and two no names sam adkins and alexander otsuka. so stfu and give frank respect.
Real competition? You saw his last fight right? He got knocked out by a nobody. While Frank had a great fight with Cung Le, who has insane striking skills. Think before you type. Ken has no real competition anymore, he sucks now. And if I'm not mistaken Frank was undefeated in the UFC before he left and has beaten Bas Rutten (an MMA god).
im gonna clear my argument up. ken has not one a match in 4 years, and one 1 fight in six. ken does fight bigger names, but he got ko'ed by a guy named robert berry.
"im gonna clear my argument up. ken has not one a match in 4 years, and one 1 fight in six. ken does fight bigger names, but he got ko'ed by a guy named robert berry."
Yes, he did....but it doesn't change the fact that Ken has fought people in the top ten.....and Frank hasn't. Period. End of story.
Yes, and this explains why he didn't BEAT them. Frank wouldn't have either. You can't judge someone on wins and losses, you have to look at the QUALITY of the competition. Frank has beat Cesar Gracie (who?), Bryan Pardoe (who?), lost to Renzo, etc....
uuhh... frank was UFC's first middle weight champion.... he was fighting MMA before you were a shot in your daddies ball bag, so i dont have any idea what you mean by "If it werent for Ken, Frank wouldnt be known". They arent even real brothers.... Frank's birth name is Frank Juarez!
Ken got spanked 3 times by Tito Ortiz.... Frank beat the shit out of Tito.... yet he's a joke? Are you feeling ok?
I think you should break the prozac in half next time.
"uuhh... frank was UFC's first middle weight champion.... he was fighting MMA before you were a shot in your daddies ball bag, so i dont have any idea what you mean by "If it werent for Ken, Frank wouldnt be known". They arent even real brothers.... Frank's birth name is Frank Juarez!"
Uh....I trained with the Lion's Den (Dallas) back in the mid 90's, so I think I would know better than you.
Uh, yes it was....at first they all met in a Karate gym in Hurst for several years and then in Dallas when the Den was established. Don't speak on things you don't know about, please.
All I said was that there wasnt a Lions Den, in Dallas, at the timframe you mention to have trained there.
And because I havent included certain things in my comments, doesnt mean I dont know about it.
There is a major hole in your story, I'll let you figure it out yourself."
There are no holes in my story, you just having reading comprehension problems. Believe what you like, I don't care. I trained there in the mid-90's, despite what you want to believe
BTW, the only reason Frank got the title shot is because of his brother Ken. And don't bring up the pancrase fights - 90% of those were fixed. I was there, so I should know.
uuhh... im 30 years old genius and have been in MMA long before it was popular.
you saying that you trained with the Lions Den doesnt mean shit.... Anyone can train with the Lion's Den just like anyone can walk into a Chute Boxe academy and train. Their doors are open for training.
Regardless, you are the typical online tough guy that would piss himself if Frank Shamrock was in your face.
"uuhh... im 30 years old genius and have been in MMA long before it was popular."
Uh...yeah, everyone claims that. I don't care whether you believe me or not. I trained with Royce Gracie back in '93 a few times and later at the Lion's Den in Dallas.
Frank would be scared of ME. I used to throw Tracey Telligman around the room during training and he is a HW.
lmao.... yeah. im sure you trained with Royce Gracie and you would destroy Frank Shamrock..... while giving up hundreds of thousands of dollars for pro MMA contracts in elite organizations...... Thats why your on Youtube!!!
i dont see Frank Shamrock with screen name talking tough (or anyone else for that matter).
Youre probably in your teens and have never been in a fight in your life, let alone a ring.
"lmao.... yeah. im sure you trained with Royce Gracie and you would destroy Frank Shamrock..... while giving up hundreds of thousands of dollars for pro MMA contracts in elite organizations...... Thats why your on Youtube!!!"
Uh....I got my college degree instead so I could make REAL money. NHB was a hobby for me. Again, I don't care what you believe.
Its not a fight between Frank and Ken it is a fight between their IFL teams. They are the trainers. IFL is hyping it to sound like a "Shamrock" fight.
Considering that Ken's real last name is Kilpatrick, and Frank's real last name is Juarez. I don't think their blood brothers. They were both adopted by Bob Shamrock.
I didn't know Ken was Irish, but that does explain the temper. LOL!!!! You could be right about Frank being Costa Rican, I just remember reading Mexican/Native American.
kens birth parents name was kimpatrick or somthing like that so yeah he's deff irish lol yeah i was in costa rica and kept hearing that he lives and trains in the capitol city
Ken's all talk, he talked shit to Tito got his ass kicked by Tito, talked shit to Don Frye got his ass kicked by Don Frye. He also purposly lost his first fight with Tito and his fight with Fujita to make some extra cash.
Ken and Tito are legends, Phil Baroni is a body builder trying to make it in mixed martial arts. He has never even been considered top 10 while Ken and Tito were champions. You are obviously uneducated towards the fight game.
Come on all you clueless guys!!! Frank kicked Baroni's ass recently and Baroni is stronger and much better then Ken or Tito anyday! Ken reminds me of Matt Hughes. They're both washed up and were only winning till everyone started seriously training and some inteligent guys joined the sport.
you need to watch some older material, ken may be washed up now, but you can clearly see that he deserves the name legend for helping to develop the sport to what it is today... sure new talent may beat the "legends" of any sport, but it's for what they accomplished in their time that matters
Oh, I agree with you there and have VHS tapes of most of the early ufc and have seen all Kens fights. Frank fought back then too but unlike a lot of those guys he still has the skills or brains to compete with todays fighters and win though.
Frank kicked Phil Baroni's ass!!!, as well as Tito's (in his prime) and Phil Baroni is an awesome fighter whith lots of skills and a very hard hitter. Ken is so stupid it boggles my mind. He wouldn't last a minute against Frank and doesn't hit as hard as Phill so couldn't knock Frank out either without a lot of luck. I'd love nothing more then Frank to teach Ken some respect and humility.
I've watched MMA since the very first UFC and watching Ken bums me out. His career fell apart over the last 7 years. During the 90's he was awesome but since the year 2000 it's been down hill. Especially seeing Ken lose to Tito 3 times. And Tito is really a class B fighter with limited skills compared to Couture, Jackson, Henderson, Fedor, etc. What a shitty way to end a legendary career.
One thing people do forget about Ken, is that he was in WWE for about 6-7 years, and never fought during that time. And without any real preparation, Ken never was able to get his prime performance back.
yeah I especially like it that ken's team kicked franks team ass. AND UMMMM FRANK BEAT TITO in the fourth round of their fight referee stoppage. Frank was letting tito waste all his energy laughing at him and then he pounce and kicked tito's ass
their two douche bags who got stomped out by tito ortiz fuck the shamrocks don't be suprised to see those two pussies on a reality show on the Oxygen channel!!! About trying to find the leperchauns pot of gold those cocksuckers!!!
I like Ken but he is not aging gracefully, I feel bad for him. It's his ego that caused him to lose. Otherwise, he may have been able to retire winning. Guess that's life, I still respect him.
The part about "to bad they hate each other" is purely for ratings. Ken has even said he'd do anything for his brother if it came down to it. Hence why he blew up on Frye. Ken and Frank are both great fighters and legends. But if they were to ever fight I don't think Frank would stand a chance. Its a no brainer that Ken had all the tools to beat Tito. But Kens biggest mistake was that he spent some of his best years as a fighter wrestling for WWE.
kinda weird how they were both adopted, but you could make a case that they are legit brothers because they have such a strong resemblence to each other
frasermack18 1 year ago 3
@frasermack18 yeah there life is like a movie or something. Somebody should make a movie about them.
pie579 1 year ago
@frasermack18 their adopted father Bob ran a fostering program where he took many troubled boys in from the streets. I don't think they look that much alike I believe Frank is part Puerto Rican (that's not a tan) his last name was Juarez b4 he got it changed. Ken is from GA. they R both althelte and hard-headed fighters who R better on the ground but I think the sim. stop there.
LegendoftheAce 1 year ago
what i dont get it they dont even hate each other do they??
JolsSugerFree320 2 years ago
this fight never took place...
Minkopone 2 years ago
yes it did watch my vid
stugats77 2 years ago
well you have 3 uploads on your site and none of them is the fight....
Also:
neither ken nor frank have the fight in their record, which means.....this fight never took place
Minkopone 2 years ago
@Minkopone this is ifl, it was where teams of people fought
steady2wheels 1 year ago
yo is dis fight actually on youtube all i see are these shitty promos etc fukin hell
WSMdarlo 2 years ago
I just love these fights in some random video
allroundmma1 2 years ago
haha exposed u mad u son? haha if im a bitch come down here. im from manchester lad ur a wana be internet gangsta andif ur guna say shit say it 2 my face and not over youtube
PyroGhettoSoldier 2 years ago
Pyro shut the fuck up. Your an internet gangsta too spitting all this garbage about how you'll do this and that. You've never seen a glock my friend, never owned one or touched one. I used to live in Bushwick, Brooklyn New York and I can promise you this area is harder than any parts of the UK. So stfu talking shit to people online. You're done, you can leave now.
NYSecond 2 years ago
haha lad u 2 thick think of ur own words? and lad u ever been the uk? haha so ive never seen owned or tuched a glock haha ok lad. and lad i wasnt talkin 2 u so shut the fuck up. and as i said u got a prob with me come down here and ill sort tha problem out
PyroGhettoSoldier 2 years ago
...? Son. Shut the fuck up. "Ghetto Soldier" Your a white kid saying your ghetto? You sound like a straight up fucking idiot. Your only saying "Come down here N ill sort it out" because im never gonna come. In in New York, You know... 5 boroughs of death and all that. Where you from? Some faggot town in the UK. Hahhahaha fucking eat it up you dick sucking prick. A glock, hahaha, PROVE IT.
NYSecond 2 years ago
i will prove it when i shove it down ur throwt and pull the trigger. haha im from manchester and u do realise the are shit loads of white people that live in the getto. and lad u can shut the fuc up coz u probs came from a rich family and never ot in a scap in ur life and its snd if u dont come dwn here coz im comin new york in a year or so
PyroGhettoSoldier 2 years ago
U know nothing about anything..now i know ur juss a bulshiter glock when ur 5... and im the one acting like a gangster..you juss showed me and everyone else that u aint shit but a bitch..post all u want you've been exposed pal
KingOneTwo 2 years ago
lad u can suck the sweat from my balls. ur a soft prick thats actin like an internet gangsta. here lad i live in st helens neer manchester come down here and see wat happnes lad and i couldnt arm bar ur dick lad coz u aint got 1. haha lad ide nock u out with 1 jab from my right hand.
PyroGhettoSoldier 2 years ago
haha u no newt about uk do ya haha ur fuckin soft haha u new wat a glock was when u was 7 i had a gock when i was 5. haha ive had a lot better girls than uve had m8. wtf is it with the tea just coz were from the britain u think we like drinkin tea haha
PyroGhettoSoldier 2 years ago
Germany started ww2 and was in the middle or shitten on ur country when the good old U.S.A came and cleared house for u.. thats right U.S.A THE HOME OF THE TWIN TOWERS..So shut that mouth filled with crooked green teeth cuz im done.. ill nut on ur mothers chest..G'day!
KingOneTwo 2 years ago
fat haha na lad i aint fat, haha lad u might of started world war 2 but we was the 1's tha destroyed the twin towers haha ur from new york so wa haha ur a fuckin pussy u dont no wat a glock is and u prob aint ever had a girl and seriusly lad u are 1 soft son of a bitch so stop actin fuckin cocky and if the british are so soft come down here and ill turn ur insides out bitch
PyroGhettoSoldier 2 years ago
Ricky Hatton and Michael Bisping are the pride of U.K... hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhaah....as for never having a girl...the uglyies girl i had is prolly netter then anything u pretend to have relations with both of those guys wont be the same..and buddy a glock is a gun..i knew that when i was 7...ur not even close to my lvl..and for blsplr...you couldent arm bar my dick if he juss went 3 rounds with gina carrano...and pyro..do u even know what the fuck is goin on?
KingOneTwo 2 years ago
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PyroGhettoSoldier 2 years ago
buddy ur the fat kid i dont gotta argue wit u..with comments like "the only fight u ever won was the 1 with ya mam trying to get her into bed" ur juss a blow job face it pal..Im from NY where we dont call eachother LAD AND MATE..where are u from UK?... We took ur tea and threw it over board hahahahahaahah...ur welcome for WW2
KingOneTwo 2 years ago
Lol.. actually cant beleave I'm argueing with ppl over a computer..anyone who wants to fight gimmie ur address ill send u a plane ticket to NY and ill throw u a beaten when u get off the plane...G'day mates!
KingOneTwo 2 years ago
haha pin head??? wtf haha fuckin muppit if ur guna unsult me do it proper, pmsl hood rat? lad come down here en to my hood and we will se wat happens sayin tha its obv u aint got the balls, ur probs a little fat kid that wants 2 act hard and p.s that wasnt me tha left tha comment it was me m8
PyroGhettoSoldier 2 years ago
Ill do u like Hendo did Bisping...ppl dont call eachother "mate" in the ghetto....keep up with ur assumptions..ive made more money and won more fights then u ever will..im done talken to you nobodys..I WON AND I ALWAYS WILL WIN
KingOneTwo 2 years ago
first off pal youd have to land,and we both know u prolly throw rubber band punches...the two ppl that commented me back werent even talken smack so maybe we have a misunderstanding if not i personally dont care
KingOneTwo 2 years ago
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PyroGhettoSoldier 2 years ago
Hey pin head....how about using English .You sound like a typical hood rat with an 8th grade education.I know...you are the man right?? Stupid woog..
blsplr51 2 years ago
everyones commenting..and no one knows nothing..ken and frank are adopted there not even really related..and ken was a total prick to frank growing up..and if i have any typos..i dont care cuz ill prolly be able to arm bar you in about 20 secs
KingOneTwo 2 years ago
cool
kurt1travis182 2 years ago
Damn King, getting a little emotional like Lesnar. And to flat out say you'd arm bar us in 20 seconds...hmm... Your obviously not good enough, otherwise you'd be on PPV. Prolly took a few classes of MMA. MAYBE won A tournament or 2. But it's a big world out there home boy. I learn from experience that there's some baaad ppl out there. So it's best you keep your mouth shut, so you aren't embarrassed.
DonnieLove214 2 years ago
The only thing you could arm bar is your own dick and that would take about 15 secs to wear that limp bitch out.Come out of your moms house when you grow up sport!! lmfao
blsplr51 2 years ago
Good one pal...get out of ur comp chair and win a street fight
KingOneTwo 2 years ago
ken shamrock hasn't died of old age yet?
Faustuss1 2 years ago
It was Ken.
acedudeone 2 years ago
Ken made Bas cry like a little girl in the ring.
Stigmableedingblack 3 years ago
no that was Frank
screwston713ivan 3 years ago
No hes right, Ken made Bas tap out in the middle of the ring.
brandonlfc92 2 years ago
did this ever happen??
dodododa 3 years ago
Finally, the fights really gonna happen... Too bad Ken's gonna get rocked...
SleepDeprived23 3 years ago
thats just the hype you stupid mofo
Bundao123 3 years ago
do they really hate each other??
efsq 3 years ago
ken doesn't hate frank. not sure if it's mutual though. i know they had a rough history, but ken's always been the more mature one. he's buried the hatchet
chefkoo 3 years ago
Ken says his problem with Frank is the way Frank mistreated their adoptive father Bob Shamrock....aside from that it's all just silly shit..
bukofezra 3 years ago
my friend's 2 year old daughter could beat up ken sharock. he has been a joke sence he left the wwf and went back to mma. where frank is a real fighter he knock outare my ken tap out in 3 seconds.
irbb07 3 years ago
who won??
ymoustahib 3 years ago
Ken's team of course. I think they won every fight....
Not only is Frank a joke, but he can't coach either apparently.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
Are you retarded? You are talking about an MMA legend, plus Ken lost his last fight to a nobody. At least Frank still has tough competition.
w00dy105 3 years ago
Again, Frank isn't a legend. Legends don't only fight fighters that are not even top ten worthy.
And no amount of your whining will change that.
Frank just got KTFO by a Cung Le, a freakin' joke in itself whom EliteXC has been protecting by giving him sub-par competition.
Frank is a joke. The only one who thinks he is a "legend" is.............Frank himself.
Now go back to your comic books.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
Nothing enrage me more than someone like you insulting MMA fighters behind your PC. Let me know when you have some time, I'll pay for your fare and take you to Frank so you can say that to his face. Afterwards, you can tell me how he re-arranged your face.
Jdagust 3 years ago
Ooooh! An internet tough guy! I'm so scared!
Well, gee, since Frank didn't want any of me back then, I doubt he would want any of me now. No puny 205 lber would want any of me anyway.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
Internet tough guy! Not really face to face tough, I would say so. Not sure why your analogy when I ahve not uttered any insults or challenges to you. Unlike you I di have respect of people even you...all I said was if you are so tough, let me take you to Frank in San Jose and you can call him all the names you just did to his face. And as far as Frank did not want any of you back then....please I am not in the mood for bad jokes.
Jdagust 3 years ago
who won??
ymoustahib 3 years ago
that didn't explain why he lost. it just explained why frank would have lost, wwhich you don't know.
AUB220 3 years ago
"that didn't explain why he lost. it just explained why frank would have lost, wwhich you don't know."
You are not making any sense.
FACT: Ken has been dealing with real competition.
Frank hasn't for the past 10 years.
End of story. He's a joke.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
how did you get a degree?
my point: he fought them, but he did not BEAT them.
your point: Yes, and this explains why he didn't BEAT them
your explanation: Frank wouldn't have either.
i think i made perfect sense, as you did not explain why ken lost. also technically in the last ten years frank beat jeremy horn, tito ortiz and elvis sinosic. those were the top three. ken beat kimo, and two no names sam adkins and alexander otsuka. so stfu and give frank respect.
AUB220 3 years ago
You are making no sense again.
Frank is a joke because he won't fight anyone worth a damn because he knows he's a joke. At least Ken fought some worthy competition.
And Frank even threw his own brother under the bus with the steroid article...yet Frank is on the juice too.
Yes, please stfu.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
Real competition? You saw his last fight right? He got knocked out by a nobody. While Frank had a great fight with Cung Le, who has insane striking skills. Think before you type. Ken has no real competition anymore, he sucks now. And if I'm not mistaken Frank was undefeated in the UFC before he left and has beaten Bas Rutten (an MMA god).
w00dy105 3 years ago
"Real competition? You saw his last fight right? He got knocked out by a nobody."
Yes, think before you type, please...
Ken ahs fought real competiion...at least fighters that in the top ten like Franklin and Kazushi Sakuraba....unlike Frank, who hasn't.
Please don't comment on things you don't know anything about.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
acutallly..ken beat bas..twice....with that said..i still think frank would take ken!
Superapeaholic 3 years ago
Frank has lost to Bas Rutten twice and won once, whereas Ken has beaten Bas Rutten twice.
Ken has grown to be the better fighter, its just that Frank has a little more juice left in him so he would probably take the victory.
That doesn't negate the fact that Ken Shamrock is one of the greatest fighters of all time.
BitchWrinkle23 3 years ago
Listen, we all know once Bas developed a ground game, (after the Ken fights..) he would have dominated Ken shamrock.
HumanTarget420 3 years ago
you are pretty tough, im sure frank would be shaking in his boots lol. fuckin keyboard warrior. you're the joke eminboztepe.
by the way ken is a tough guy and a hall of famer, but he hasn't won a match in something like 6 years. its a truly sad decline.
AUB220 3 years ago
"you are pretty tough, im sure frank would be shaking in his boots lol. fuckin keyboard warrior. you're the joke eminboztepe."
Uh huh....I'm the joke? Frank just got his ass beat by an unranked fighter (Cung Le) last night.
YOU"RE the joke, and so is Frank. PWNED!
eminboztepe 3 years ago
and who did ken beat? no one for 6 years you loser. get a life with your degree asshole
AUB220 3 years ago
thats at the guy who trained with royce, eminboztepe
AUB220 3 years ago
"and who did ken beat? no one for 6 years you loser. get a life with your degree asshole"
That's because Ken fights guys in the TOP TEN (Tito, Sak, Franklin, etc.) Frank doesn't. And he just got his ass beat by Cung Le.
Get a life, indeed.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
im gonna clear my argument up. ken has not one a match in 4 years, and one 1 fight in six. ken does fight bigger names, but he got ko'ed by a guy named robert berry.
AUB220 3 years ago
"im gonna clear my argument up. ken has not one a match in 4 years, and one 1 fight in six. ken does fight bigger names, but he got ko'ed by a guy named robert berry."
Yes, he did....but it doesn't change the fact that Ken has fought people in the top ten.....and Frank hasn't. Period. End of story.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
he fought them, but he did not BEAT them.
AUB220 3 years ago
"he fought them, but he did not BEAT them."
Yes, and this explains why he didn't BEAT them. Frank wouldn't have either. You can't judge someone on wins and losses, you have to look at the QUALITY of the competition. Frank has beat Cesar Gracie (who?), Bryan Pardoe (who?), lost to Renzo, etc....
He's a joke and was exposed as such last night.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
Whoa theirs only one legend in the "shamrock" family & thats ken, frank is good but not a legend
Starz8687 3 years ago
lolwut?
zipwolf 3 years ago
Agreed! Ken's the legend, not Frank.
If it weren't for Ken you would have never heard of Frank. Frank's a joke.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
uuhh... frank was UFC's first middle weight champion.... he was fighting MMA before you were a shot in your daddies ball bag, so i dont have any idea what you mean by "If it werent for Ken, Frank wouldnt be known". They arent even real brothers.... Frank's birth name is Frank Juarez!
Ken got spanked 3 times by Tito Ortiz.... Frank beat the shit out of Tito.... yet he's a joke? Are you feeling ok?
I think you should break the prozac in half next time.
WanderleiSilva29 3 years ago
"uuhh... frank was UFC's first middle weight champion.... he was fighting MMA before you were a shot in your daddies ball bag, so i dont have any idea what you mean by "If it werent for Ken, Frank wouldnt be known". They arent even real brothers.... Frank's birth name is Frank Juarez!"
Uh....I trained with the Lion's Den (Dallas) back in the mid 90's, so I think I would know better than you.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
Lions Den Dallas wasnt around in mid 1990's.
Str8BIast 3 years ago
"Lions Den Dallas wasnt around in mid 1990's."
Uh, yes it was....at first they all met in a Karate gym in Hurst for several years and then in Dallas when the Den was established. Don't speak on things you don't know about, please.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
The Lions Den originated in california.
Str8BIast 3 years ago
"The Lions Den originated in california."
Uhh....your point?
eminboztepe 3 years ago
"The Lions Den originated in california."
Uhh...and your point? No one said differently. Mezger, Telligman, Macias, Taktarov, etc all met in Hurst before the Lion's Den in Dallas was opened.
Again, please do not comment on things you know nothing about. Thank you.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
Why are you so defensive?
All I said was that there wasnt a Lions Den, in Dallas, at the timframe you mention to have trained there.
And because I havent included certain things in my comments, doesnt mean I dont know about it.
There is a major hole in your story, I'll let you figure it out yourself.
Str8BIast 3 years ago
"Why are you so defensive?
All I said was that there wasnt a Lions Den, in Dallas, at the timframe you mention to have trained there.
And because I havent included certain things in my comments, doesnt mean I dont know about it.
There is a major hole in your story, I'll let you figure it out yourself."
There are no holes in my story, you just having reading comprehension problems. Believe what you like, I don't care. I trained there in the mid-90's, despite what you want to believe
eminboztepe 3 years ago
Dont make assumptions about other people.
This is a smaller world than you think.
Str8BIast 3 years ago
"Dont make assumptions about other people.
This is a smaller world than you think."
With 6.5 billion people on the planet, I beg to differ.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
So how many of them do you know?
Earth is practically Invisible in comparison to the Star Arcturus.
You beg to differ?
Thats fine, but it doesnt make you right.
Chill your bones dude,.
Str8BIast 3 years ago
I certainly do not know even a fraction of 6.5 billion people....no one does.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
BTW, the only reason Frank got the title shot is because of his brother Ken. And don't bring up the pancrase fights - 90% of those were fixed. I was there, so I should know.
Frank is a joke and he knows it.
Now go back to your comic books, little boy.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
uuhh... im 30 years old genius and have been in MMA long before it was popular.
you saying that you trained with the Lions Den doesnt mean shit.... Anyone can train with the Lion's Den just like anyone can walk into a Chute Boxe academy and train. Their doors are open for training.
Regardless, you are the typical online tough guy that would piss himself if Frank Shamrock was in your face.
WanderleiSilva29 3 years ago
"uuhh... im 30 years old genius and have been in MMA long before it was popular."
Uh...yeah, everyone claims that. I don't care whether you believe me or not. I trained with Royce Gracie back in '93 a few times and later at the Lion's Den in Dallas.
Frank would be scared of ME. I used to throw Tracey Telligman around the room during training and he is a HW.
Now go back to watching your cartoons.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
lmao.... yeah. im sure you trained with Royce Gracie and you would destroy Frank Shamrock..... while giving up hundreds of thousands of dollars for pro MMA contracts in elite organizations...... Thats why your on Youtube!!!
i dont see Frank Shamrock with screen name talking tough (or anyone else for that matter).
Youre probably in your teens and have never been in a fight in your life, let alone a ring.
WanderleiSilva29 3 years ago
"lmao.... yeah. im sure you trained with Royce Gracie and you would destroy Frank Shamrock..... while giving up hundreds of thousands of dollars for pro MMA contracts in elite organizations...... Thats why your on Youtube!!!"
Uh....I got my college degree instead so I could make REAL money. NHB was a hobby for me. Again, I don't care what you believe.
Now go back to your cartoons again.
eminboztepe 3 years ago
What a load os shit franks the one who was the champion not ken.
Bronxblade 3 years ago
Its not a fight between Frank and Ken it is a fight between their IFL teams. They are the trainers. IFL is hyping it to sound like a "Shamrock" fight.
ovieheap 3 years ago
when there fighting wat am confuse ken didnt retire
Shadowizz 3 years ago
mma you need talent in every fiels of fighting, anyone can have a street fight.
willisboys2007 4 years ago
I would watch Ken and Frank fight MMA style.
TheRealDrache 4 years ago
i'd love see that.
darktim99 4 years ago 3
@darktim99 did it happen?
TheJojoso 5 months ago
Lul, Frank Shamrock - Good? LULZ. Not even. -_-
xMalignantx 4 years ago
newb to the max
ilovesilvia69 4 years ago
Considering that Ken's real last name is Kilpatrick, and Frank's real last name is Juarez. I don't think their blood brothers. They were both adopted by Bob Shamrock.
Stitchman3875 4 years ago
ones irish ones costa rican lol
ilovesilvia69 4 years ago
not sure what Ken Shamrock is, but I do know that Frank is Mexican/Native American.
Stitchman3875 4 years ago
ken is irish..i didn't know frank was mexinat..he lived in costa rica for a while so i assumed he was
ilovesilvia69 4 years ago
I didn't know Ken was Irish, but that does explain the temper. LOL!!!! You could be right about Frank being Costa Rican, I just remember reading Mexican/Native American.
Stitchman3875 4 years ago
kens birth parents name was kimpatrick or somthing like that so yeah he's deff irish lol yeah i was in costa rica and kept hearing that he lives and trains in the capitol city
ilovesilvia69 4 years ago
Cool beans. Do you train in anything?
Stitchman3875 4 years ago
i box and weight train
ilovesilvia69 4 years ago
Cool beans, I do BJJ myself.
Stitchman3875 4 years ago
nice
ilovesilvia69 4 years ago
Thanks, I say it's best to learn all of them.
Stitchman3875 4 years ago
if ur gonna fight mma, yeah. for street fighting u just need explosive strenth and some acuracy/coordination. lol
ilovesilvia69 4 years ago
That is a reality no one ever seems to get. MMA is a totally different ball game than a real street fight.
Stitchman3875 4 years ago
yeah mma is a lot safer
ilovesilvia69 4 years ago
true that
Stitchman3875 4 years ago
u give bj?
epetyou49ers 4 years ago
LOL!!!! BJJ as Brazilian Jujutsu. But that was funny, you got me.
Stitchman3875 4 years ago
ken reminds me of charlie manson with that beard.
UndestructableMass 4 years ago
Not blood brothers
MrXon 4 years ago
wikipedia doesn't bite people. look this shit up.
cfx5000 4 years ago
They are NOT blood brothers! They are adoptive brothers. Do some homework pal.
cfx5000 4 years ago
frank is the most talented of these two brothers but he also has alot of respet for his bigbrother
elshubeto 4 years ago
They sure look alike if ther not blood!
phonedork 4 years ago
you girls will fight(comment) about anything.gezzz
gagit 4 years ago
wtf they aren't brother's??? why do they look so similar if they are not blood bro's??? pls answer>?
ttsupraman1 4 years ago
they're just two dudes that were adopted by the same guy. why am I explaining this?
cfx5000 4 years ago
so they just both ended up with that same ugly ass look, rhetorical question u don't have to answer.
ttsupraman1 4 years ago
they're better looking than most mma fighters lol
ilovesilvia69 4 years ago
They are NOT brothers. Thet share the same last name and thats were it ends. Brothers do not hate each other like these two do.
cfx5000 4 years ago
they were both adopted by the same adoptive father and therefore they both took his last name...
DaCootMan 4 years ago
Frank Shamrock is going kill KS. Ken needs to just stay retired. MMA passed him by years ago...
smoke117 4 years ago
This was between their mma teams a few months ago. They were coaches. Ken's team won the competition.
Stitchman3875 4 years ago
ken vs frank hahahha what a one sided figh ken is a bum
OVERKILLIRONSIDE 4 years ago
Ken's all talk, he talked shit to Tito got his ass kicked by Tito, talked shit to Don Frye got his ass kicked by Don Frye. He also purposly lost his first fight with Tito and his fight with Fujita to make some extra cash.
PatrickFoLife 4 years ago
Ken and Tito are legends, Phil Baroni is a body builder trying to make it in mixed martial arts. He has never even been considered top 10 while Ken and Tito were champions. You are obviously uneducated towards the fight game.
GRMC09 4 years ago
Come on all you clueless guys!!! Frank kicked Baroni's ass recently and Baroni is stronger and much better then Ken or Tito anyday! Ken reminds me of Matt Hughes. They're both washed up and were only winning till everyone started seriously training and some inteligent guys joined the sport.
gymregular 4 years ago
you need to watch some older material, ken may be washed up now, but you can clearly see that he deserves the name legend for helping to develop the sport to what it is today... sure new talent may beat the "legends" of any sport, but it's for what they accomplished in their time that matters
homrqt 4 years ago
Oh, I agree with you there and have VHS tapes of most of the early ufc and have seen all Kens fights. Frank fought back then too but unlike a lot of those guys he still has the skills or brains to compete with todays fighters and win though.
gymregular 4 years ago
which team won?
indestructiblebm 4 years ago
Frank kicked Phil Baroni's ass!!!, as well as Tito's (in his prime) and Phil Baroni is an awesome fighter whith lots of skills and a very hard hitter. Ken is so stupid it boggles my mind. He wouldn't last a minute against Frank and doesn't hit as hard as Phill so couldn't knock Frank out either without a lot of luck. I'd love nothing more then Frank to teach Ken some respect and humility.
gymregular 4 years ago
frank did not kick tito's ass in tito's prime
titos prime was righter after the fight with frank because he lacked cardio in his fight with frank and fixed that flaw when he fought silva
it's well documented that tito's cardio improved after the shamrock fight
glory1999 4 years ago
Stop talkin about ken
1257969 4 years ago
ken is an ambasssador but he is as goofy as all hell...he shouldn't be allowed to talk before matches
fmayweatherjr9 4 years ago
I've watched MMA since the very first UFC and watching Ken bums me out. His career fell apart over the last 7 years. During the 90's he was awesome but since the year 2000 it's been down hill. Especially seeing Ken lose to Tito 3 times. And Tito is really a class B fighter with limited skills compared to Couture, Jackson, Henderson, Fedor, etc. What a shitty way to end a legendary career.
RenaissanceCapital 4 years ago
2 things renaisance....
1. is that kens really competitive career was over long before his fights with tito
2. tito is a class b fighter now but still is respectable fighter
so its not like he went out shitty... its just the new replaced the old
halzo 4 years ago
One thing people do forget about Ken, is that he was in WWE for about 6-7 years, and never fought during that time. And without any real preparation, Ken never was able to get his prime performance back.
Jetfire3375 4 years ago
This is like WWE now, make up some fake storyline so people will watch it.
11271127111111111111 4 years ago
yeah I especially like it that ken's team kicked franks team ass. AND UMMMM FRANK BEAT TITO in the fourth round of their fight referee stoppage. Frank was letting tito waste all his energy laughing at him and then he pounce and kicked tito's ass
WerewolfReaper 4 years ago
man, ken looks like an asshole with that stache
signedcj 4 years ago 2
he does, like somekind of porn cop actor
fight141 4 years ago 4
their two douche bags who got stomped out by tito ortiz fuck the shamrocks don't be suprised to see those two pussies on a reality show on the Oxygen channel!!! About trying to find the leperchauns pot of gold those cocksuckers!!!
holidayspg559 4 years ago
you dumb fuck. Frank KO'ed tito
fuzzfact123 4 years ago
Frank would beat ken up any day lol
Safet1523 4 years ago
my goddess this is unreal
PeruvianDude 4 years ago
i think frank cud beet tito
bigksal 4 years ago
hmmmm who knows, i would never count frank out though....
cdmjeeah 4 years ago
Frank HAS beaten Tito in the past.
karlito5757 4 years ago 2
Frank already beat Tito. Where have you been?
xman7727 4 years ago
CUNG LE insults FRANK SHAMROCK in the face!!!...here in YOUTUBE
santinorasheed 4 years ago
I like Ken but he is not aging gracefully, I feel bad for him. It's his ego that caused him to lose. Otherwise, he may have been able to retire winning. Guess that's life, I still respect him.
infiniti01 4 years ago
Ken looked like baroni balonge in that beard.
invalid1210 4 years ago
Short Timeline of Irony
1. Ken teaches Frank
2. Frank wins over Tito Ortiz
3. Frank teaches Tito Ortiz
4. Tito beats Ken
5. Tito beats Ken part II
6. Tito beats Kean part III
MadMarSkee 4 years ago
Very freaky, very funny and very true!!
SkorpionOne 4 years ago
7. Ken's IFL team vs. Frank's IFL Team
MadMarSkee 4 years ago
hey how old is this video?
tune5k 4 years ago
so they didn't fight?
and they're not real brothers
teflonwrestling 4 years ago
ken looks weird with that beird
houston713playa 4 years ago
isn't ken in lightheavyweight and frank in middle weight
l4p3m8 4 years ago
irealiity you sound like a complete and total lyar.
camelsmack 4 years ago
The part about "to bad they hate each other" is purely for ratings. Ken has even said he'd do anything for his brother if it came down to it. Hence why he blew up on Frye. Ken and Frank are both great fighters and legends. But if they were to ever fight I don't think Frank would stand a chance. Its a no brainer that Ken had all the tools to beat Tito. But Kens biggest mistake was that he spent some of his best years as a fighter wrestling for WWE.
PsychoMatt619 4 years ago
100 % agree with u
laredo444 4 years ago