CATHOLIC PRIEST USING FEAR TACTICS ON RH BILL!!

[carmel350]

@mau345 YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO SPEAK BETTER, YOUR ENGLISH IS TWISTED, IT'S HARD TO MAKE SENSE OF ANYTHING YOU ARE TRYING TO ARTICULATE!

[mau345]

@carmel350 1 plus 1? A is for apple, B is for beautiful...:)))) why are attacking my technical sense now? (even though there really is nothing wrong with it, all my words and facts have been clear) attack on my argument, will you? but maybe you can't? are my words too profound for you to comprehend? aw.... C is for cat, D is for dog.

[fuch3131]

EH KUNG MAGTAGALOG NA LANG KAYA KAYO

[mau345]

@fuch3131 eh kase naman, may mga foreigner ditong nagmamarunong kung anu ang tama at mali. wala naman silang alam sa nagyayari sa bansa natin, at ano ang kailangan natin. ewan ko rin sa paring yan, gusto nyang magpahiwatig ng kanyang hinain, tapos english naman gamit. ano tayo, puro konyo?! mayayaman at market nila.hahaha

[a320812]

It's soooooo incredibly how stupid the Cathlic priests are!!

[macrezon58]

Ok, if the catholic churches really against the RH Bills, so let's do it and follow what they want even we are already over populated country.

But one important Condition I want the Catholic Churches to do is to help Financially all the families have unwanted children that they can't afford to support them anymore.

As of now we see in our country that so many children are abandoned, aborted, malnutition, no schooling, or no good education because of financial crises in the family. You know we

[ddo1101]

Actually, the concept of birth control is eugenicist in origin. Eugenics was a concept of racial purification which Hitler embraced. The American Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, (largest contraceptive and abortion service provider in America) admired the Nazis purification program and sought to apply on the so called "negro problem." Sanger immediately distanced herself from Hitler when the world discovered the Holocaust. Check out American Life League here. Thanks.

[changko18]

this is so absurd i dont know if i would find it funny or angering

[rfnymph]

what an Idiot!!! How can you compare population control through prevention of pregnancy to holocaust ? To keep million of people especially children in poverty is almost as worst as genocide.

[MrFidebarr]

Prevention of pregnancy if different from termination of prgnancy. To compare reproductive health to Hitler's genocide is a long shot and is a lie. The Catholic church is a drag to Philippine economic and moral progress and is responsible for the flight of our countrymen to seek refuge to foreign land. The Catholic church is responsible for world poverty due to overpopulation, and responsible for the communist party uprising as a result of poverty.

[carmel350]

@MrFidebarr IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE CATHOLIC TEACHING DON'T BE A CATHOLIC!

[MrFidebarr]

@carmel350 YOU ARE OUT OF LINE. IF YOU WAN'T TO CHALENGE MY STATEMENT, GO AHEAD AND CHALENGE MY STATEMENT AND DON'T MAKE STUPID COMMENTS!

[carmel350]

@MrFidebarr IT'S THEIR GOV'T NOT THE CHURCH THAT IS AT FAULT FOR THEIR POVERTY, EVEN THESE PHILIPPINO'S SAID SO! IF PEOPLE WHO ARE CATHOLIC AND FOLLOW THE TEACHING, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE SO MANY CHILDREN. ONE WOMAN SAID HER OWN HUSBAND WAS NOT TO CONCERNED ABOUT HOW MANY CHILDREN THEY HAD, DON'T YOU DARE BLAME THE CHURCH, THAT IS SO FUCKING IGNORANT, UNREAL!

[MrFidebarr]

@carmel350 YOU ARE RIGHT TO SAY THAT POVERTY IS THE FAULT OF THE PHILIPPINE GOVERNMENT AND ALSO THE FAULT OF THE INDIVIDUAL. BUT TO SAY THAT REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH (RH) BILL IN PHILIPPINE CONGRESS WILL ENCOURAGE GENOCIDE IS COMPLETELY UNTRUE AND ACTUALLY AN SCARED TACTIC OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH BECAUSE THEY RESIST ANY FORM OF CONTRACEPTIONS(PILLS, CONDOM, IUD, TUBAL LIGATION, VASECTOMY, ETC..) WHICH IS A MILE DIFFERENT FROM ABORTION. TELL ME WHO IS IGNORANT!

[carmel350]

@MrFidebarr NOT SURE WHY A PERSON WOULD WANT TO BE IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IF THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH THE TEACHINGS, NOBODY NEEDS TO BE CATHOLIC, THE CHURCH DOES NOT HOLD PEOPLE IN AND LOCK THE DOORS! I AM A SINNER, BUT MURDER IS A MORTAL SIN, WE DO NOT STAND BY AND WATCH AS PEOPLE MURDER THEIR UNBORN CHILDREN!

[MrFidebarr]

@carmel350 Honestly, I really don't think you know what you are talking. The reproductive health bill in the Philippine Congress now has nothing to do with abortion. The most controversial issue on this bill is contraception which the catholic oppose. Actually, the practice of contraception should be encouraged by the catholic church because without conception there won't be abortion. I am a free thinking worshipper and enjoy the blessings of democracy. No catholics possess a membership card!

[carmel350]

@MrFidebarr YOU KNOW, SOME LAWS ARE MADE TO BE BROKEN AND OTHERS ARE NOT. I BELIEVE THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH 100%. SEX IS NOT A RIGHT! IT IS A PRIVELEDGE BETWEEN TWO MARRIED PEOPLE. I FOLLED THE WAY THE CHURCH TEACHES ON HOW NOT TO GET PREGNANT BY KNOWING YOUR BODY AND I HAVE THE CHILDREN I WANT, NO MORE, IT'S UP TO PEOPLE. THERE JUST TO DAMN LAZY AND SELFISH TO TRY!

[MrFidebarr]

@carmel350 Contraception is not against the law in the Philippines. The aim of Reproductive Health Bill is to creat an avenue to help poor people who cannot afford a big family another alternative (contraception) instead of abortion, thus promote health.Good laws are not made to be broken. Good laws promote civility in our society. Only bad laws and teachings that does not conform to logic (just like the catholics stand on abortion) are made to be broken.

[carmel350]

@MrFidebarr you do not need contraceptives, to avoid pregnancy, you need the right information about your body and how it functions, it feels like your saying that people are just to stupid to understand!

[MrFidebarr]

@carmel350 Stop your nonsense. I'm tired of you. You belong to a different league. Goodbye!

[carmel350]

@MrFidebarr GOODBYE LOSER!

[mau345]

@carmel350 just like catholic priests, their supporters seem to debate without logic as well. You may be catholic, as well as your priests, but how you ignorantly disrespect other people's opinions and disrespect even their public image in front of the media, how you control people from their free will by labeling something "evil" that the bible didn't even say it was..is so un-Christian.

[carmel350]

@mau345 Y ARE YOU HERE ON THIS SITE, ASK YOURSELF THAT?

[mau345]

@carmel350 why am i here? because i'm greatly disturbed in our catholic church. They label things as a cause of holocaust....they label sex ed as pornography, they state acts as something "evil" when there is not enough proof( literal or profound), and they even threaten with people with excommunication just to force what they want. This is year 2011, for crying out loud. I have a religion, but i strongly believe that religion should never cross the line and start dictating what's in or out.

[carmel350]

@mau345 JOIN A DIFFERENT RELIGION IF YOU WANT TO GO AGAINST THE CATHOLIC TEACHINGS, YOU HAVE "FREE WILL", I BELIEVE IN THE" ACT OF CONTRITION" AND THE "TEN COMMANDMENTS"!

[mau345]

@carmel350 uh.... yeah. i am in a different religion, i'm a baptist and we also worship your God. You thought i was catholic? pfft. respect my perspective, but i don't like the idea of saints, mother mary as a divine being and the idea that the vatican exists with such infinite wealth used to make very expensive clothes and jeweled accessories when they could just spend it on young hungered homeless children. and b*llshit that its a divine place. Greed, lies and corruption are in there.

[carmel350]

@mau345 WELL GOOD, YOU STAY YOUR RELIGION AND I'LL STAY MINE. TELL ME MISS KNOW IT ALL WHERE DOES ALL THE SO CALLED WEALTH OF THE CHURCH COME FROM? DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD SALE EVERYTHING THEY HAVE TO FEED THE POOR? IF YES, THEN WHAT? WE WOULD HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO HELP ANYONE WITH, INCLUDING THE POOR, MOST OF THE VATICAN'S REVENUE COMES FROM CATHOLICS AND TOURIST, THEY MAKE MONEY TO HELP PEOPLE WITH, YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKS DON'T YOU? YOU REALLY ARE IGNORANT, DO SOME RESEARCH!!!

[mau345]

@carmel350.what do you mean sale??? sell? sell what? are we talking about selling...to the poor? huh? anyway, yeah, they should give it to people i great NEED.... tthe catholic church keeps telling people to bring more and more children, never prevent life. but what happens to these children? they have no clothes, no education, no food, is in great labor, and a blank future. i see them in streets everyday....my heart clenches, and get sad and angry because i'm too weak to make such difference.

[carmel350]

@mau345 WOW, YOUR SO LIKE A MARTRYR, I GREW UP DIRT POOR HERE IN CANADA, I NEVER SAW TO MANY OTHERS AS POOR AS ME, WE WERE NOT ON THE STREETS BUT IN A FILTHY HOUSE, WITH NO FURNITURE, NO FOOD A LOT OF THE TIMES, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HELPED OUR FAMILY, WITH FOOD, AND CLOTHES. I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DID NOT DO ANYTHING WRONG TO YOUR PEOPLE, YOU NEED REFLECTION, NOT BLAMING THE PRIESTS AND CHURCH!

[mau345]

@carmel350 not do anything!???hahahaha!!! tell that to my ancestors. tell that to my grandpa, tell that to my father, tell that to all the molested sacristans! look, i understand that they helped you and all. but that's a one case basis. do you know that priests here threaten, yes, blackmail, our politicians with excommunication. they blackmail people to not go to the mass is he/she is a pro-RH bill. WHo are they? the owners of the church? no! people and God own that.

[carmel350]

@mau345 THE RH BILL, IS COMPLETELY AGAINST GODS TEACHING, I'M PROUD OF THOSE PRIESTS FOR NOT BENDING, WHY SHOULD THEY? SO, YOU DUMB PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS, I MEAN REALLY!

[mau345]

@carmel350 see....calling us dumb. calling us heretics.... calling us immoral. did God say this?particularly, Chritianity's God?maybe the other god said that... i want to learn about forgiveness, or about love, or about friendship and want to go to church to further my relationship with God....and then the priests will say to me to GET OUT cause i support this bill, and they label the person to be evil and un-Christian...just like that? disappointing. very very disappointing.

[carmel350]

@mau345 you cannot go to CATHOLIC CHURCH IF YOU BELIEVE IN AND ACCEPT ABORTION!

[mau345]

@carmel350 really??? nice church then. so you won't let gays and lebians go in too? they've done a major sin too right? a murderer? a rapist? a thief? a rebellious child? a liar? I never thought that our God was that picky? or maybe he isn't? maybe its the church officials.....humans. We were all God's children, and loved by Him, even if he's a muslim. i don't know with your church, but ours is different.

[carmel350]

@mau345 gays and lesbians can come to church, but if any sinner has "Mortal sin" they may not recieve holy communion, and they are not allowed to recieve marriage, they can still go to church. As for people supporting killing babies and pushing for a new law that will in fact kill millions of God's innocent children, hell no!

[mau345]

@carmel350 yeah, i don't support killing babies while supporting rh bill (which does NOT support killing babies, a.k.a abortion) . would you let me in then? like all the Rh bill supporters? don't you still get it yet? it's like 1 plus 1.

[carmel350]

@mau345 I WOULD LIKE YOU FOR ONE MINUTE TO LOOK AT ALL THE CHURCHES IN THE WORLD AND TELL ME HONESTLY HOW MANY OF THEM HAD SCANDLES OVER MOLESTATION, BECAUSE I DID, THE % OF CATHOLIC PRIESTS BEING MOLESTERS WAS FAR LESS THAN ANY OF THE OTHERS, THE MEDIA DOSEN'T SHUT UP ABOUT THIS ISSUE WHEN IT INVOLVES THE CATHOLICS TRUST ME, WE ARE THE TRUE RELIGION AND WE HAVE BEEN PERSECUTED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND STILL WE ARE STRONG, WHY? LOL! I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL YOUR EVIDENCE, EXCEPT BIASED ONES

[mau345]

@carmel350 could you please tell me your source?and yeah....what about my ancestors? hm? my father's and other children's childhood under catholic schools? what's your defense to that? saying "WE ARE THE TRUE RELIGION" sigh..... enlightening someone like you is difficult. I'll pray for people like you. maybe you're a priest? i dunno... this church started with evil, they also conducted death penalty, they killed "heretics" but with forgiveness as virtue? evil lives for a loooong time,, got it?

[carmel350]

@mau345 WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE, AGAIN I ASK YOU? JESUS TOLD PERTER TO BUILD A CHURCH, AND SO THE CHURCH IS ST. PETERS IN ROME, THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH, GET IT!

[carmel350]

@mau345 WE ARE THE TRUE RELIGION, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT ALL YOU WANT BUT WE WILL NEVER EVER BE DESTROYED, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? WE HAVE BEEN PERSECTUTED FOR WELL OVER 2000 YEARS AND STILL WE STAND STRONG, WHY?  ANSWER ME THAT?

[mau345]

@carmel350 hm let's see why..to start off, they kill the "heretics" in the past, so who's to oppose? let's see and then you use the Bible, and we have the same God( which is the most worshiped God of all), and then, yeah, catholic started in Europe...or somehow really developed there, and oh, what a coincidence, the superpowers in the history were Spain, Portugal, etc ...they conquered many countries (like ours, 300 years) and inevitably grasped as the "religion" there's your evidence

[mau345]

ok ok,., you're the true religion...it's all yours baby. :)))) you're persecuted??? now you're trying to make the catholic church the victim? unbelievable! hahaha....it just gets better and better. 

[carmel350]

@mau345 not sure why your so angry about my religion? go join a satanic cult, if your not for Jesus you are for the devil.

[mau345]

@carmel350 wow....didn't expect that. i'm for the devil? because i support RH? and not a catholic believer? you're thinking too highly of yourself. yeah, i hate the catholic system, cause they've done so much damage without even taking responsible for it. they've made up theories that wasn't even told by the bible. remember, when they said the world is flat? and they tried to excommunicate columbus because he said it was round..... it was round after all.

[carmel350]

@mau345 SINCE WERE NOW GOING BACK IN TIME, REMEMBER WHEN PEOPLE THOUGHT THE UNBORN WAS NOT A HUMAN BEING? AND NOW WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT THE BABY IS A HUMAN BEING FROM CONCEPTION AND ON? IT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE " FETOLOGY" YOU DO KNOW WHAT THAT IS, RIGHT? SCIENCE IS WONDERFUL!

[mau345]

@carmel350 i'm happy that you brought those terms : "conception" "fetology" conception is when the sperm meets the egg which forms the embryo, to the zygote and then the fetus. the fetus is the root word of your "fetology" now, RH bill does NOT support abortion but contraception, where it hinders the sperm to meet the egg, meaning, to conception, no fetus, no life, and with no life, how can the sin murder be possible?hm? you've just contradicted your argument. confusing. ;))

[carmel350]

@mau345 STOP, PLEASE STOP, WITH THE HAHAHA'S AND THE AAAAHHHHS, I MEAN REALLY, GO LOOK INTO WHAT I AM DEBATING IF YOU REALLY CAN, I DARE YOU! I THINK YOUR ONE CELL SHORT OF A POPSICLE STICK!

[mau345]

@carmel350 well, since you say words like "f**k", i think you would consider "ahh" and "haha" too right? are you irritated now?? frustrated?hm hm hm hm hm...... sweet. another insult again from you....ugh...ugh...you're bringing my confidence down, oh no.....hahahaha

[mau345]

@carmel350 and oh yeah, that's kinda unfair, i gave four evidences why the catholic lives on. i also gave you scenarios of their anomalies( do you know what this means?), and now, you come right back at me that i'm for the devil. i mean what the? can't you give me a smart answer for once?

[carmel350]

@mau345 you even write with an accent! lol! WHAT DO YOU CONCIDER EVIDENCE? YOUR DUMB NARROW MINDED OPINION, STAY THE HELL AWAY THEN, WE DON'T WANT YOUR EVIL AROUND US, TY.

[mau345]

@carmel350 :)))))))))))that's a smart answer. wow! you know what, let's stop this,hahaha, all my type has come to waste. cause you're just kinda humiliating yourself, and i'm embarrassed that i'm having a debate with a guy like you. i'll find another anti-rh bill guy, who's smart, factual and not rude, and stays on the topic. you don't even know me...ahaha, an then you judge me..and in the internet??AHAHAHA, certainly a man of God. accent huh? wow, that was offensive...ugh...hahaha! ... TY ;)

[mau345]

@carmel350 but the church, the ones that encouraged these children to be born,they are so big! however, i don't really see any effort from them in our country (Philippines) i only see churches get bigger, grander, spawning, and the saint statues have these jeweled studded clothes....the priest with a grand cloak. ironically, beggars are just outside the church's gate. i don't know which country you came from, but catholic here is sick. these priests were the antagonists of our ancestors

[carmel350]

@mau345 I'M SICK OF PEOPLE BLAMING THE CHURCH FOR EVERYTHING WRONG WITH THEM, GOD GAVE US FREE WILL, IF YOU DON'T USE IT CORRECTLY SHIT HAPPENS. THERE ARE NATURAL WAYS NOT TO GET PREGNANT, BUT PEOPLE ARE TO LAZY OR HORNY TO USE THEM! NEVER BLAME THE CHURCH! WHY DON'T YOU DO SOMETHING? WHY DOESN'T YOUR GOV'T HELP?

[mau345]

@carmel350 and could you please please, when getting on a debate, stay on track on the topic. i was talking about the misleading statements of the priest, and now you answer me to not follow the catholic teachings. i'm not a catholic, but come on, does it mean that when a priest says it, its a catholic teaching?? that's funny...naive and pitiful at the same time.

[carmel350]

@mau345 LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU SEE AS MISLEADING?

[mau345]

@carmel350 saying sex ed is pornography, saying holocaust will happen with RH bill when in other countries it never happened, contraception promotes murder (when no life happened really), the bill prevents God's plans( yeah? like they know God's plan? and when did humans, ever, EVER, prevent God's plans!?)then saying "obey God, no to RH bill" that's using God's name in the process!!!! (this last one got me angriest, actually). that's misleading our citizens towards what they want, right?

[mau345]

@carmel350 Really really ironic. No matter how hard-core catholic you are, its funny that many buddhists might even defeat you in practicing the ways of the bible.

[carmel350]

@mau345 DEFEAT ALL YOU WANT, I DARE YOU!

[carmel350]

@mau345 IT'S FUNNY HOW YOU TALK ABOUT DISRESPECT AND THEN YOU TALK ABOUT BUDDHA, DID YOU KNOW BUDDHA WAS JUST A MAN(A VERY LOVING AND KIND MAN) WHO ASKED THE PEOPLE NOT TO WORSHIP HIM OR MAKE HIM SOME KIND OF GOD? BUT THEY DID, HOW DISRESPECTFUL WAS THAT?

[mau345]

@carmel350 huh???????i......didn't get you at all. "But they did, how disrespectful was that?" my other comment pertained to how of you some supporters not being open-minded with other people's opinions and perspectives. And you guys even criticize their morality and their faithfulness to God. This act kinda indicates that some of you hard-core catholics sway from Christian ways in the process...i don't get why you have to say the bhuddist background to make a point?BTW, yes to RH bill. :)

[carmel350]

@mau345 WHAT DIN'T YOU GET, MAYBE I CAN TYPE SLOWER?

[mau345]

@carmel350 ahahaha!!!! type slower!??? to make things more understandable!?? huh? you'r really a vague person to talk to. pffft..... why am i seeing such difference in intellect of those that support the RH bill and the anti- RH. i'm done here. :)))). and fix your key pad, it KINDA MAKES LETTERS LIKE THIS. Don't worry, i think people can read your comments without them capitalized. ;)

[carmel350]

@mau345 Y SO DEFENSIVE?

[mau345]

@carmel350 ahhh? haha..ok.?. you told me to do research. take a deep reflection with your religion too, research on it, it's all over anyway, it's not that hard to find. i'm serious. i'm Filipino, i have a lot of catholic friends. my dad was once a catholic, i mean really catholic. he was in catholic school from pre-school to high school. he converted though because of my mom. he'd tell me his hate towards the catholic because of its anomalies they hide from what he saw in his 40 years of life.

[mau345]

@carmel350 i'm not saying for you to change your religion, that's absurd just from the internet. but i'm just saying, constrained with what you hear from the church and living with such limit, is not good as well. read the whole RH bill, if you haven't, read it carefully. then, read our country's problems. check how this will benefit our country, how it will not. but for the most of it, it really benefits our masses. that's what we need now....change. please understand...understand our hatred.

[carmel350]

@mau345 WHERE IS YOUR GOV'T? WHY ARE SOME OF YOUR PEOPLE BLAMING THE CHURCH?

[mau345]

@carmel350 I'm not blaming the church! where in my sentences did you see that? the church is not the reason of this country's economy's fall,yes, but the church is certainly not the institution to control our laws. you say where's our government? our government might be one of the worst, but the RH bill's the solution they've come up to with our economic problem which is overpopulation. if we, as citizens, don't trust our government, the country will only collapse more. have you read it?!!>:(

[carmel350]

@mau345 WHY DOES THE OVERPOPULATION PROBLEM SEEM TO LAY WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH? I KNOW FOR A FACT, IF I DID NOT WANT ANYMORE CHILDREN I WOULD USE THE NATURAL WAY, BUT THE PEOPLE ARE LAZY, IN FACT, IF I THOUGHT I COULD NOT AFFORD ANOTHER CHILD I WOULD AND COULD REFRAIN FROM SEX! YOU DO NOT NEED SEX TO SURVIVE, MAYBE YOUR ANCESTORS SHOULD HAVE TAUGHT YOU THAT? IT'S UP TO THE PEOPLE TO FIGURE THEIR SEXUAL APPETITES OUT NOT THE CHURCH, SEX IS MADE FOR PROCREATION, DO NOT ABUSE GOD'S GIFT!

[mau345]

@carmel350 no no no.... we are informed that overpopulation may worsen a country's status. and that is true, right? but then, the catholic church barges in, and says it really doesn't. look, sex' purpose is to reproduce yes, but remember that sex, though not needed to survive, sex is a basic instinct like any animal. to stop it just like that is not easy. i'm a virgin, but hey, i know that sex is something important for a couple's survival. its not just a way of reproduction its an act of love.

[carmel350]

@mau345 ACTS OF LOVE DO NOT END IN ACTS OF HATE(ABORTION) THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO SHOW YOUR LOVE, IF YOU TRULY CANNOT SUPPORT CHILDREN WHY EVEN GET MARRIED? MAYBE STAY A VIRGIN, BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO ENGAGE IN AN ACT WHICH BARES CHILDREN. DON'T FUCKING WHINE AT ME THAT PEOPLE NEED SEX, SERIOUSLY!

[mau345]

@carmel350 how many times does people have to say this, it's soooo tiring people. RH bill does not approve abortion. unbelievable. RH bill actually prohibits it. please, use another argument. thank you..you know, something that could really make an impression and change my mind, not something that doesn't even exist

[mau345]

@carmel350 read some bio books too....oki??? even though you're not a scientist, at least you should know how an animal body works. we have souls, but we were also blessed with a body governed by hormones and proteins.

[carmel350]

@mau345 we are also blessed with uteruses and wombs to hold are lovely children!

[mau345]

the only thing that could promise is that i'll have sex by the time i'm married. but come on! are your telling me, in my 40 years of my married life, i'll only experience sex 4 times assuming all succeeded to make a baby? and don't use bad words please... :)....thank you, cause you know, that's a sin too right? but don't worry, i forgive you.. now, assuming that you've read the bill, maybe you're now convinced "acts of love doesn't end in acts of hate? hm?:)

[carmel350]

@mau345 the bill is just a way of getting what assholes like you want, if you do not like what the catholic church teaches or stands for, find somewhere else to go, why not move? or are you a prisoner? Tell me, how many people die from lack of sex? Now, tell me, how many die from being aborted?

[mau345]

@carmel350 "aborted" that word again. no one is being aborted by the bill....sigh. why are you so stubborn. have you read it? just answer yes or no....don't say you've watched videos, i want you to READ. and if you don't this debate is going nowhere and the only thing you can state is that i am evil. end of story? not even a touch of analysis?

[carmel350]

@mau345 THE PILL IS AN ABORTION, THE IUD, IS ALSO ABORTION, WHAT DON'T YOU GET?

[mau345]

@carmel350 really???? the pill is an abortion? a pill is for contraception t. it doesn't slips the baby off the utreus, ok? man, how many matters must i clear out for you?

[carmel350]

@mau345 DO SOME RESEARCH ON THE PILL, IT IS AN ABORTION....IT ALSO CAUSES CANCER, BREAST CANCER, CHECK IT OUT, I DARE YOU!

[mau345]

@carmel350 "pill" i kinda checked in the dictionary, and referred to as a medical drug with a specific purpose. didn't really bluntly said "a tool for abortion" yep, there are pills used for abortion. but in the pills referred in the RH bill, are pills for contraception. furthermore, these pills are thoroughly researched by medical society, men of the academe, not some doc quacks. but i think using condoms is more preferable for me.

[o0moonbladeZ0o]

@carmel350 My dear "Pill" is a very broad term. Under RH bill (Philippines), pill refers to medication for contraception not abortion. Pill is not the only form of contraception.

RH Bill respects life, it doesn't condone any form of taking life.

[carmel350]

@mau345 bad words are man made, so I use them all I want, especially dealing with evil, like yourself. You just can't wait to kill the unborn, because you horny people will die without sex, try the natural way, it works you lazy asses!

[mau345]

@carmel350 yeah, and bad words were used to express hate. right? do you say it when you praise people? and even if you do, you weren't really praising me,hahaha. " can't wait to kill the unborn" "horny people will die without sex" such words of blasphemy that didn't come to my mind, and you just accused me of it. and who are you to tell us the "right" way? hm?

[carmel350]

@mau345 I SAY BAD WORDS TO IDIOTS I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT FOR, AND WHY SHOULD I, THEY DON'T RESPECT THE MOST INNOCENT AND VULNERABLE!

[mau345]

@carmel350 ah....so for idiots, its okay to curse them.ahhh....ok. it won't count as a sin? ah....what words of light. attention: read the bill, last call! :))))) or maybe, attend some more english classes to understand it? well, it's your life, its ok if you don't, but its not ok to have a debate with someone about something you don't know of. its like taking an exam without studying.

[carmel350]

@mau345 I DARE YOU TO READ EVERYTHING YOU WROTE TO ME, AND TRY NOT TO LAUGH.....LOL!

[mau345]

@carmel350 dare seems to be your fav word. and what an answer again.hahaha. i was so offended again,wow. amazing! :D yeah i read everything...it was funny... that pea brain like you could actually be literate.i mean, what are the odds? i'm witnessing a miracle. sigh..... i'm trying to be as logical as possible with this debate, and you answer me with crappy, cliche arguments. you even contradict yourself. 1 plus 1?

[carmel350]

@mau345 IN CANADA OUR CHURCH AND STATE ARE SEPERATE, WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR GOV'T, MAYBE YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE HERE, YOUR LOOKING TO BLAME SOMEBODY, WHY NOT THE CATHOLICS? YOU DO NOT JUST INSULT OUR CHURCH, YOU INSULT EVERYONE OF US TRUE CATHOLICS, WONDER WHY NOBODY WANTS YOU THERE? FOLLOW GOD'S COMMANDMENTS, THOU SHALT NOT KILL! ABORTION IS A HUGE SLAP IN GOD'S FACE!

[mau345]

@carmel350 ok, read read read read people. no abortion...read, you seem to know how to type, so i assume you know how to read. read the frickin bill!!!!!!!!! anti abortion...anti abortion anti abortion.....pro-family planning, pro family planning pro family plannig,,, attention attention.....has it sink in already? :)) iwas not blaming anyone too... i'm not blaming the church, i'm not blaming the church...i repeat. =_= ok? TRUE CATHOLICS

[carmel350]

@mau345 you go watch all the video's on youtube, every Rh bill video talks mostly about abortion, what the hell do you think?

[mau345]

@carmel350 ah....so i'll watch the unofficial RH bill videos posted by some random people to know what it really is rather than the official bill? you do know what "official" means right? i assume that you haven't read it because you're still forcing the same argument of why the bill is wrong. you say that it promotes abortion, but in the OFFICIAL bill, it doesn't. how are you going to defend then?? please answer logically, please.

[mau345]

@carmel350 can is ask you, since you think the bill promotes abortion (even though it doesn't), what if, again, what if, the bill doesn't promote abortion, what is your stand? will you support it or not? remember, don't count in abortion.