'The War on Kids' The Freedomain Radio Interview

[peopleopenyoureyes]

This is all about conditioning , control , it's from the schools to the airports ,,,,, controlling the cattle through FEAR & intimidation . You kids need to show this to everyone ..................... CONTROL FEAR INTIMIDATION ........... when the government are the ones to FEAR !!!!

[JackSaturday]

Excellent, gentlermen. Many thanks. Neill, Holt, Gatto, Pearce-- and now you.

[Textra1]

I felt physically ill after watching the documentary, especially after seeing the little girl being hand-cuffed. What madness  convinces teachers, principals and police that it's a benefit to society to hand-cuff children.

[stefbot]

@Textra1 i had the same experience, it haunted me

[trexdegenerate]

"I didn't fail school, school failed me."

[LastStand2010]

"Here is the common garden implement that can disembowel your children!" LMFAO

[LastStand2010]

Poignant and informative documentary. I recommend Generation Rx if you want to learn more about the chemical lobotomies they're handing out these days.

[ehpl]

Is it human nature that we are resistant to change or because we have been conditioned to such a degree perhaps in the pavlovian sense that fear/threat is stimulated? Which inhibits flexibility?

[ehpl]

does anyone know if this doc is available on a format that will play in the UK and where to buy?

[narutofan1108]

I used to like learning before going through this system

[pricture]

So THEY are the failures to provide children with a sane enviroment, not the students who do nothing but work tirelessly with no purpose for 12+ years.

[stefbot]

@pricture i totally agree

[pricture]

@stefbot Thanx. :]

[pricture]

I love how teachers and parents always treat us like its all our fault, and we're complete failures when they are the ones who told us "School's gonna be a great place, you'll learn things, meet good people, have fun, and it will be a good experience!" when we first started. Well after all these years of being in that shithole, I have experinced NONE of those things. And the ones that I have, they were just lies and deceptive tricks to get me to do what they want. --(continued)

[hondansxable]

Abolish the Dept of Education

[mysoultoday]

Children DO "get" power, authority, religion, etc., but not in the ways we try to give it to them and make them accept. It is subtle, and difficult for for a lot of people to understand, but if you read any of Dr. Maria Montessori's journals it will become evident. She was an amazing scientist and thinker. Children will choose to obey those whom they trust, if they are allowed to choose. They are naturally adverse to bribes, threats, and coersiveness of any sort.

[petunia511]

Your just touching the tip of the iceburg dude. Which is why children are not given their civil rights. Which is that if they did have civil rights, then the family courts would have to open their files and make public the truth of how many children were "kidnapped" and stolen from their parents nationwide and the fact that of all those 85% of them were drugged with drug cocktails of 4+ drugs & starting from age 18 months. They will never let you see these court files, so help us get them opened

[petunia511]

CCHR Florida-Psychiatric Living Will-Get yours!

July 11th 5:30-7:30-Bring Family and Friends

Protect your rights to reject psychiatric treatment. A psychiatric living will is a document that you can carry with you at all times to help make known your objection to being treated by a psychiatrist or in a mental health setting.

CCHR Florida offices, 305 N. Ft. Harrison Ave.

Clearwater, Florida33755

Get it signed and get it notorized before your school gets your kid drugged!

[petunia511]

Tell me about it, an officer at my daughter's school accused her of stealing an ipod and beat her up because she demanded that he call her parents. I have photos, i called his supervisor and they never called me back to do police report. I brought a receipt and gave it to her to turn in to show i bought her an ipod that was stolen from her 3 weeks prior and they refused to write up a police report but did beat my kid as they claimed she stole an ipod. Still filing charges while it is summer.

[Yune2ofdoom]

@petunia511 wow... you should sue the police. dont see if it would work though

[jystyle]

this is simply amazing! I loved this video

[pricture]

I dont know which quote would be more fitting for the hellish school situation........;

"War. War never changes", or

"War has changed......." :S

[Phillbest]

more poeple should see this documentary. We should all do our part and favorite and 5 star.

[ORDENILLUMINATI]

The capitalists started public schools to brainwash the working classes into submission.

[timmypower4258]

It's weird cause some people would kill to go to school. Thanks for taking it for granted America....

[Nellsing]

@timmypower4258 Taking it for granted? That's just an excuse to dismiss the issue we're having with schools. People would kill to go to school. Does that means the U.S. has GREAT schools? NO. Complete red herring.

[timmypower4258]

@Nellsing Did I say the US has great schools? At least we have the opportunity to go and yet we don't know what we've got till it's gone.

[KingRadbadical1988]

34:30-35:00 POINTING GUNS AT CHILDREN AND THAT TOWN BACKED IT UP?

All it would take is for ONE of those officers to misfire and a child would DIE.

YOU CAN NOT POINT GUNS AT CHILDREN, YOU FUCKING PSYCHOS!

FUCK AMERICA, AND GOD BLESS THE CHILDREN OF AMERICA!!! THE REST OF THIS COUNTRY CAN NOW OFFICIALLY GO FUCK THEMSELF! Our children are MUCH more important than these stupid adults need to feel "safe".

WE NEED TO GO THERE AND START POINTING GUNS AT THE ADULTS AND SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT!!!

[michaelencarnacion]

I actually went to a black school for high school, and it literally made me racist for life. I am now in the patriot movement and own an AK47 and am trying to start a militia in my city. I actually fantasize about killing black people sometimes, and it is all because I went to public school. I wish I had just stayed home and studied on my own.

[KingRadbadical1988]

I had to go to a black school as well, in the 1990's. They HATED me for no reason. The teachers LIED to me and told me that my family was "from England" and that "we owned slaves".

My family was from POLAND and we WERE slaves and I don't think ANY of those "gangsta" kids with their $60,000 SUV's could understand the shit me or my family go through!

They filled me with some DEEP, EVIL hatred. But slowly, I have to let it go. Be like MLK in the face of hatred and don't hurt anyone. (cont.)

[KingRadbadical1988]

Peace, love and knowledge.

The wealthy anglo-saxons treated MLK the same way as black kids treated us. But he was STRONG and so can we be!

Also, I support the Patriot Movement 100% bro.

[moondoggyful]

Dear Stef

I am an American student in Maryland who has attended public school and is now in college. I am very proud of my education and how the school system operates. I do not have enough characters to explain to you how great American schools are because you do not understand people like us(AMERICANS). Maybe you should become an American Avatar and see if school is that bad. People like you love to criticize without presenting any reasonable solutions- your worse than the a Republican!

[snipa4lyfe]

@moondoggyful

Perhaps you should watch the documentary.

[Jcolinsol]

I also was educated in the american school system. I attended school in the ghetto, we ran out of paper (including toilet paper) half way through the year.

Your preferences are noted, but they are in the extreme minority, and I'd prefer that young people should not be forced into these education camps.

If you knew anything about the nature of education, you'd see the destructive impact schools have on society.

[darkalchemistninja]

War on Kids

[Septimondo]

@moondoggyful I think we're long overdue for another school shooting in this country.

[leonski35]

I found this documentary very disturbing and felt a range of emotions whilst watching it !

[MarekSorys]

i have got no money to buy the documentary, but luckily there is a torrent up.

anyway the educational system nonsense.

a school just needs to be a place where children can walk into when they wants to and learn the thing they want to.

like you said it stef: children are naturally curious.

there simply are no words that can express my anger towards those responsible for all this violence, suffering and cruelty.

[baggytheo]

Stef now gets the same guests as The Colbert Report. Who says FDR isn't growing?

[candburd]

Thanks to Stef and Cevin for this Interview! I had no idea things were this bad in schools and in particular American schools (i have not heard anyway of police and guns in Australian schools). I will be sure to try and get my hands on the documentry.

[JackRoller008]

Thank the black chimps for fucking up yet another part of American society. The dirty Juden has weakened our system so much that now it is impossible for white kids not to suffer in the public school system. Why what school never this bad during the segregation period?

[stirkrazykid]

54:16 Ha ha ha . . . : ( . . . Fuck!

[BL0GD0R]

Great video, I was on ritalin, then concerta (a long acting variant of ritalin), and finally adderall for over ten years and I can attest to the horrible social consequences of those sorts of medication . . . I finally went off the medication cold turkey after I realized that all it was doing to me was isolating me socially and fueling a severe psychological dependency.

[Valelacerte]

53:20 "babies are incredibly curious ... and then we put them in these sepulchres of the brain and just rot them with boredom, authority and drugs, and then we want them to pop out and be participative citizens in an enlightened democracy ... it's like trying to reassemble a cow after it's gone through a hamburger machine"

Hmmmm, I see a patent here, just need to find a way of reassembling 2024 quarter pounders at the other end.

[tinosnit]

I didn't like the Henry Ford statement. The turnover rate of his labourers fell dramatically when he paid them better.

[davyjames]

Thought stefan said he was sending his kids to school because he didn't want to reinvent teaching and that they were the experts?

[sirscutter]

I believe he was talking about private schools and not public schools when he said that. If I am correct, he rated his preference for his daughter's education choice like this:

private education > home school > no education > abusing own child > public school :P

[VALsacount2]

Baby boomers are losers!

[tob1203]

this guy was on the colbert report

[VALsacount2]

Schools atract control freak teachers, and bumfuck cops. Lots of Cops at school, work as school cops, because they'll never get their ass chewed by a Lawyer.

[fergus247]

Prescription of ritalin has increased 3 fold this year in Denmark. I got very sad when i read about it on the news, especially after seeing Stefs bomb in the brain series.

[fergus247]

@fergus247 Alas there was some sanity, because related to the article was some university professors take on the issue. He was calling the development downright "sick". As in society thinks ADHC has a medicinal cure, and leaves it at that.

[DaveDoggOwns]

I think all the issues with education and young people's civil rights in general are caused by the legal system haivng an archaic conception of adulthood. What is adulthood in the legal sense is something completely arbitrary. Adulthood is simply a number. 16. Bam your an adult. 18. Bam you're an adult. 21. Bam you can start drinking. It's all arbitrary nonsense.

I say the question of whether someone is an adult should come down to does the person make decisions based on reason or emotion?

[DaveDoggOwns]

I think my conception of adulthood (a person who makes decisions based on reason rather than emotion) is a whole lot less arbitrary than saying you become an adult when you're 18.

[robzrob]

Sounds like a good system, DDO.

[lnd3005]

You've chosen a criterion whereby you can call most people "children." There are a lot of immature people in the world, but that doesn't make them children.

A 30 yr old man is not a child, even if he is irrational. Most wouldn't call him a "child" even were he mentally retarded.

Also, who decides when one makes reasoned decisions often enough to be an "adult," and how is that going to be observed? Your criterion is still an arbitrary demarcation; it's just more vague, and unenforceable.

[DaveDoggOwns]

Bare Assertion

Circular Reasoning

Appeal to popularity

Reason is the mental faculty to come to conclusions based on assumptions and premises. That's not something arbitrary at all. Another thing too is all legal systems (statist or not) have to have SOME people deciding when you become an adult or not so I really don't see why you're bringing up this inconveniance since it will exist no matter what system is in place.

[lnd3005]

How do you know if someone can reason? Practically speaking, what does it even mean "to reason?" How many reasoned decisions must one make before one is "reasonable?"

One can't assess the reasoning ability of another person w/o arbitrarily establishing standards. Like the standards used in IQ tests: they may be reliable, and also valid to the extent that they predict future individual success/failure, but they are still arbitrary.

[DaveDoggOwns]

Well it depends. For having the right to smoke or drink you have to know the potential consequences of drinking or smoking. For having the right to opt out of school or opting out of your family household you need to know the potential long-term consequences of your actions and know what is good for your self-interest. I really don't see how "reason" is anything arbitrary. It's not like kids are required to pass the SAT test or something acedemic like that to gain their rights.

[lnd3005]

Being an "adult" isn't about one's mental faculties. It's about one's physical ability to work and feed oneself. If anything, adulthood should be tied to bodily development. And since that can vary among persons, age is the next best thing.

The problem isn't that age is a bad criterion. It's that it's badly applied. An 18 yr old has already been a sexually mature for a few years. The "bam you're an adult" point needs to be lower. Like 12.

[DaveDoggOwns]

If you have the ability to reason, you should have the full right to self-ownership. I think it is a non sequitor to assume that since a person can't get a job (and therefore feed his/herself) they therefore are not smart enough to exercise the rights to drink, smoke, make contracts, opt out of school, opt out of their family househould, etc. If you are a libertarian, you would have to agree that no one has an obligation to be healthy; only to respect the rights and contracts of others.

[lnd3005]

Please, give me your definition of child. Or your definition of adult (I assume the two categories contain all people, and are mutually exclusive.).

[DaveDoggOwns]

Child: someone who makes decisions based on emotion.

Adult: someone who makes decisions based on reason.

Now, for practical reasons my legal definition of an adult would be someone who CAN make decisions based on reason. As a libertarian, I believe no one has an obligation to be reasonable; only that they need the ability to reason in order to have full responsibiliy for one's life. That is merely a safety concern.

[lnd3005]

Here are the definitions it _appears to me_ you're using.

Adult: person who can use reason to make decisions.

Child: person who is not an adult.

Assuming they're right, I'll continue.

One can't know if someone CAN do something unless he DOES do it, while you're watching. So this does come down to administered tests/puzzles.

You also have to 'test' someone to see if he's 18, 12, or w/e. But how is your way any less arbitrary?

[lnd3005]

What makes reasoning ability the best criterion by which one should be judged "adult?"

You've told me HOW to differentiate. To show your way is best, I think you should explain WHY as well. Why draw the adult/child distinction at all? How's a child treated differently than an adult?

You mention "responsibility for one's life." Where are you going w/ that? If I look at Marie and say "She is a child," what do I mean about my relationship w/ her? About her responsibilities, and mine?