Βιβλίο Ιστορίας («Φάκελοι», 9-10-2007) - μέρος 2ο

[ThugLife041]

όχι απλά συνωστίζονταν τα χέρια τους έκοβαν στην προσπάθεια τους να ανέβουν στα πλοία..στη λέξη κολλήσανε!!λακαμάδες!!

[stavroatina]

akoma den mathate eki stin prodosia kremasma se olous pou blaptoun tin istoria tin hora tora ean einai orea ite oxi afto eiaferi esena malon ekanes diakopes ekini tin epoxi megale k epese apo to bapori ekso a den pate katholou kala

[a7manis]

Δεν ξέρω τι λέτε,πάντως η Ρεπουση είναι ωραίο pussy.Βαρβατο milf για τρελές καταστάσεις!

[oandrikos]

EXEI DIKIO I REPOUSI ALLA POIOS NA TIS TO VREI? OI ELLINES NIMIZETE OTI EISASTAN AGGELOUDIA ALLA DEN EINAI ETSI TA PRAGMATA ALLA AFOU PROTIMATE NA DIDASKETE PSEMATA TA PAIDIA SAS KALA SAS KANOUN KAI SAS TA DIDASKOUN KARAGGIOZIDES, AMORFOTOI!

[lee25gr]

@oandrikos Μίλησε ο μορφωμένος τώρα, ο σοβαρός που ακόμα και με Greeklish γράφει ανορθόγραφα.

[oandrikos]

@oandrikos Gia pes mou diladi pou ekana orthografiko lathos akoma kai sta Greeklish?

[aba222444444]

ante gamhsou re kariola repoush...skata ston tafo tou patera kai ths manas sou re paliomouno tou kerata...gamw to paidi sou to bastardo...kariola e kariola...glupse kana poutso

[technologicalsky]

Παπαχελας,μελος της λεσχης μπιλντεμπεργκ.Σκαι καναλι της νεας ταξης.Ρεπουση μαζι με Δραγωνα,Φραγκιουδακη και σια,νομιζω δεν χρειαζεται σχολιασμος.Απλως το θεμα ειναι οτι αλονιζουν τωρα ολοι αυτοι..Αμα γινει κατι ομως θα πηδηξουν εξω απο την Ελλαδα οπως πηδαν τα ποντικια.

[konig82new]

Ήθελε λεει να κάνει "συγχρονο βιβλιο". Ας γραφει λοιπον λογοτεχνια επιστημονικης φαντασιας, και οχι Ελληνικη Ιστορια με χρηματοδοτη το ΝΑΤΟ. Συμφωνα με την Ελευθεροτυπια, Δραγώνα και Ρεπούση έχουν διαχειριστει 17 εκατομμυρια ευρω αυτες οι 2 κυριες.

[jimpapadon]

ΑΥΤΗ Η ΚΑΡΓΙΟΛΑ Η ΕΒΡΑΙΟΔΟΥΛΗ ΜΕ ΑΥΤΟ ΤΟ ΠΡΟΣΤΥΧΟ ΠΡΟΣΩΠΑΚΙ ΜΕ ΑΝΑΒΕΙ ΠΟΛΥ ΑΣΧΗΜΑ!ΤΡΕΛΟ ΜΙΛΦΑΚΙ ΤΟ ΜΟΝΟ ΠΟΥ ΤΗΣ ΑΞΙΖΕΙ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΠΑΛΟΥΚΩΜΑ ΚΑΙ ΝΑ ΦΤΑΣΟΥΝ ΤΑ ΧΥΣΙΑ ΜΟΥ ΣΤΟ ΣΤΟΜΑΧΙ ΤΗΣ ΤΗΣ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΡΑΣ!

[ipokratis1]

γαμησε τα ρε φιλε...του ουρανιου τοξου ειναι η παρτουζιαρα! ειναι ρατσιστρια εναντιων των Ελληνων.Σκοπιανους αβανταρει κ Εβραιοσιωνιστες!

[afrozog]

ok twra me taposes..... den kanw antilogo apo edw mesa auto den ginete kai apo oti blepeis exoume mono 400xaraktires kathe fora se antithesi me sena mou mas exeis gemisei me postarismata tou kolimenou mialou sou.... tha to pw gia teleutea fora kai meta lege oti theleis olo istoria kai istoriki skopia kai allo ethnikismos afou eisai dianooumenos den xriazete na pw kati allo

[sakarinis]

Den ftais esy repousi ftaine kai poloi aloi san kai esena, pou aisthanontai ton eauto tous oti einai polites tou kosmou, Stin pragmatikotita esy repoush kai oi aloi eisaste polites tou koloy.

[sakarinis]

To mono pou tis aksizei eine na ipostei to othomaniko dikaio!

[afrozog]

kala re megale ti theleis na proskinisoume to anoixto mualo pou den exeis h na se paradextoume os dianooumeno na mhn se pikranw alla oute auto eisai enas kinos papagalos eisai opos xiliades alloi ethnikistes san kai esena..... akribos eimai adiavasth (kai oxi adiavastos) giati mono papagalh lene oti tous exoun mathei na lene oi anthropoi exoun krisi....den thelw na se kanw na skefteis giat den sou to emathe auto to diavasma tis apostithiseis pou eisai kalos apo oti fenete

[unmarkedX]

pantelws aksio8rhnhth prospa8eia antilogou

[unmarkedX]

se apanthsh tou 'ti 8elw'?

auto akribws 8elw

na ftanete na 'apantate' etsi

na MPAINOYN TA PRAGMATA STH 8ESH TOYS

[unmarkedX]

otan mou foras ton feretze ths dh8en 'antikeimenikothtas'

egw 8a ston skizw giati eisai upokeimenikh

otan 8a foras ton feretze tou 'eksyxronismou'

egw 8a ston skizw giati eisai ektos topou kai xronou

otan 8a foras ton feretze ths 'h8ikhs anwterothtas'

egw 8a ston skizw giati poulas parmy8i

otan 8a ftaneis se shmeio na les apla ayth einai h 'ideologia' mou kai den thn alazw opws kapoios den alazei ton mwame8 gia ton bouda KAI TIPOTE PARAPANW

tote 8a phgainw paso

dikaiwma sou na eisai anohth

[drmack70]

.α,ρε ρεμπουση,γαμω το λιφτιγκ σου γαμω...

.

πρεπει να''συνωστισουμε''στο στομα σου καμμια δεκαρια ψωλες,να δουμε πως θα το εκφρασεις....

[afrozog]

pragmatika omos re su unmarkedX xalarwse ligo mhn eisai toso ma toso kolimenos. ti exeis na kerdiseis me to na exeis kai allous exthrous ftanei pia me auto ton ethnikismo... h koinwnia allazei ksipnate ta paidia theloun kati neo oxi kati sapies idees san thn dikia sou etsi skeftete h progiagia mou oxi esu pou zeis sto 2009.... allo istoria allo ethniko fronima diaferon xonepseto

[unmarkedX]

to ti ex8rous exei h xwra einai asxeto me to ti skeftomai egw kai me ton 'e8nikismo'

ESY XONEPSE TO

pali adiabastos eisai. rwta thn repoush poia htan h 'fanariwtikh' ideologia peri 'e8nikhs oloklhrwshs' sthn ysterh o8wmanikh periodo

eksartatai to poia htan h progiagia sou

h idea oti taxamou 8a ekshmerw8ei h toyrkia kai oti oi ellhnes kai alloi xrhstianoi 8a eyhmeroun ws ypodouloi xwris e8nikh aneksarthsia MIA XARA 8A MPOROYSE NA EINAI IDEA THS PROGIAGIAS SOY

[unmarkedX]

h de idea peri kalokaga8wn autokratoriwn pou taxa diathroun thn 'eirhnh' metaksy twn ypodoulwn einai xilliadwn etwn

Ma8e loipon oti oi shmerines sou idees htan eksisou hli8ies kai hdh sapies ton kairo ths progiagias sou

[unmarkedX]

shmera sthn ellada

apenanti sthn koinh logikh, th gnwsh kai ta epixeirhmata antiparatei8etai mono 8rasos, ideologikos fanatismos, syn8hmatologia kai enniwte kai bia

h stash apenanti se ayta einai h 'xalarothta' kai ETSI ayta kyriarxoun

einai EPITELOYS wra kapoioi na apofasisoun oti den 8a XALARWNOYN

egw den eimai o ellhnas pou exeis synh8isei

[Holomounza]

H istoria pou grafetai apo ta upokeimena ths einai merolhptikh. Giafto o 8oukudidhs -o pateras ths episthmhs- 8ewrhse kalo to oti e3oristhke. Isws kapws atexna to biblio afto h8ele na aposwbhsei thn kontra pou pia den exei nohma. Alla pia den exei nohma oute h istoria afou den uparxoun e8nh...

[unmarkedX]

Pragmatika kolosiaia anohsia!

Ta istorika gegonota kai reymata exoun proektaseis sto xwro sto xrono kai sta proswpa

Gia na katalabeis poso apy8mena blakwdes einai ayto pou les

Einai san na les oti ena istoriko fainwmeno h gegonos den ephreazei para tous amesa emplekomenous sto ameso istoriko xroniko plaisio

[unmarkedX]

ara px. kapoios pou den meteixe px ston emfylio proswpika kai amesa einai eksorismou 'antikeimenikos' sthn eksistorish tou!

apisteyth mpourda!

(ama de paei kaneis se ka8ara episthmonikh analysh mias tetoias 8eshs- pou proypo8etei apolyto orismo istorikou xwrou kai xronou, ypokeimenwn ths istorias klp. -ase 8a gelasei ka8e pikramenos)

[Holomounza]

re petamene milaw gia thn istoria san episthmh oxi san prwtogenes fainomeno. Aftos pou grafei thn istoria den einai aparaithta aftos pou thn dhmiourgei. -dld o prwtagonisths mias istorias-. Apla eisai erwteumenos me thn parth sou! ton paizeis mprosta ston ka8reuth? Exeis gemisei mia selida me sxolia. An kapoios pshnetai na kanei koinwnikh episthmh mporei na paei sto panteio. Ti mas to paizeis au8entia. ante mpoukwsou blaka!

[unmarkedX]

'Alla pia den exei nohma oute h istoria afou den uparxoun e8nh...'

HAHAHAHAHAHA

kala pleon sthn ellada h katastash einai entelws orwellikh!

aytes oi mpourdes pou petane ta anidea zobie ths pseuto-proodou einai apla ksekardistikes

[Holomounza]

wraia... ekanes kai le3h apo ton orwell. Sigxarhthria morfwmene tupe! Ksekardisou oso mporeis twra giati afta ta pseuto-dianooumeno-kommounisti­ka pou ema8es einai parel8on! Kai oute kan epeidh to leei o Fukuyama! Oute kan epeidh o Marx exei 32 anagnwseis. Alla epeidh o kosmos einai ena megalo eniaio kommati kreas. Kai to phre prefa. De 8elei na einai karkinos gia ton eafto tou!

[unmarkedX]

EGW ekana leksh apo ton orwell? lol

kai 8es na mou kaneis kai ma8hma re kakomoire..

re file , ti na syzhthsoume mazi?

mou poulas kai mourh epeidh diabases mia malakia POY GRAFTHKE PRIN 15 XRONIA

kai me thn opoia shmera GELAEI OLH H PAGKOSMIA DIANOHSH

bges eksw pes oti pisteueis tis malakies tou fukuyama (ti opoies pleon OYTE O IDIOS DEN PISTEYEI) na pe8anoune oloi sta gelia

[Holomounza]

Re man to mono la8os pou ekana einai oti den eida to 8ema tou dialogou e3 arxhs: thn megalh sou anagkh na exeis dikio. Eisai ena gnhsio arxetupo hli8iothtas. Den katalabaineis tipota apafta pou leme. Mila monos sou... Ante geia.

[unmarkedX]

ekaloeksarxeioth

bges apo thn synoikia sou prwta kai kane mia bolta kai ston 21o aiwna kai meta ella na mou milhseis

Pes ta ayta peri 'kosmou' pou syneidhtopoihse oti einai 'ena komati kreas'

'istorias' pou 'den exei nomhma', 'e8nwn pou den yparxoun'

se kinezous ,tourkous,indous, rwsous, brazilianous kai ena swro alla anadyomena e8nh

...na gelasoun kai autoi ligo

den kanei na diaskedazoume mono emeis me esas tous balammenous

[unmarkedX]

re apoli8wma, eseis oi speutoproodeutikoi sto ellada eisaste pou san ka8ysterhmena exete meinei sta 90ies

Allaksame xillieteia , ksypnate pithikan8rwpoi

ta biblia pleon exoun titlous opws

The Return of History and the End of Dreams

O Huntington, o Zackaria klp. marxistes einai?

[unmarkedX]

nai mas enhmerwses kai gia tis sygxones ekselikseis!

den exei nohma leei pleon h istoria!

eidopoihse loipon re idiofyia kai ola ta panepisthmia kai tis sxoles pou etoimazoun olous tous mellontikous pagkosmious pagkosmious hgetes kseskizontas tous sthn istoria na mhn spatalane ta xrhmata kai to xrono tous

:-D

tetoia noumera pleon paragei to ellhniko sxoleio tetoio pou einai

[unmarkedX]

poios marx re kakomoire? tis malakies pou les esy nomizeis oti tis eipe o fukuyama prwtos? kai egw eimai o 'marxisths'? pseuto-kapitala? kamarwneis kiolas pou eisai anistorhtos! ksereis poses fores o kosmos exei diabsei tis idies die8nistikes malakies? pote ek aristerwn kai pote ek deksiwn... siga ta nea! edw phgame se pagkosmio polemo me 1 oikogeneia na kyberna olh thn eyrwph kai parmy8iazesai oti oi autokratories 8a soy eksasfalisoun thn eirhnh!

[unmarkedX]

den exei nohma h istoria

den uparxoun e8nh...

den exei nohma h istoria AFOU den uparxoun e8nh... toylaxiston 3 epipeda hli8iothtas sthn idia frash!

pragmatika entypwsiako!

[punkrock6660]

ti thes diladi na leme sta paidia?

"eiste oloi zwa!!! to eidos sas onomazetai anthrwpos.. exetai aneptigmeni noimosyni parolauta sas kyriarxoun ta zwwdi enstikta sas!! stin istoria tha apodei3oume oti i anthrwpini fysi einai pou euthinetai gia tous polemous kai oti den mporoume na apofygoume ton polemo giati etsi einai i fysi mas... sto dialeimma tha pe3etai petropolemo kai mexri tin epomeni vdomada pou tha mas feroun opla tha ekfrasetai ta enstikta sas eleuthera" ?

auta thes na tous leme?

[unmarkedX]

1

bale sto ekpaideutiko programma

Aristotelh

8oukididh

Makiaveli

Hobbes

Rousseau

kai 8a tous ta poun ekeinoi anti gia esena

[unmarkedX]

2

oxi

ma8e tous oti o an8rwpos an kai exei proel8ei me thn idia akribws ekseliktikh diadikasia me ta zwa einai kata magiko tropo diaforetikos

kai paroti den yparxei 8eos einai oloi tous kata magiko kai anekshghto tropo mikroi 8eoulhdes

FYSEI(!) anidioteleis, fysei mh biaoi, fysei mh antagwnistikoi,fysei dikaioi, fysei monogamikoi kai praoi adiaforoi gia anaparagwgh h eksousia

[unmarkedX]

h organwmenh koinwnia kai o politismos diaf8eiroun thn kalokaga8h fysh tous epibalontas tous blaberous kanones, blaberes paradoseis, blaberes sylogikes taytothtes

[unmarkedX]

o polemos einai apotelesma ths yparkshs diaforetikwn e8nwn, 8rhskeiwn, politismwn kai idewn

oxi tou oikonomikou kai politikou antagwnismou metaksy omadwn an8rwpwn me diaforetika symferonta

h eksaleipsh ka8e e8nikhs, 8rhskeutikhs kai politistikhs tatutothtas 8a ferei pagkosmia aiwnia eirhnh pou 8a diafylasoun oi polye8nikes pou ws gnwston den emplekontai pote se antagwnismous kai sygkrouseis kai einai panta kalokaga8es kai ypey8hnes apenanti sthn an8rwpothta kai ton planhth

[unmarkedX]

Oi polye8nikes aytokratories ths istorias den htan mhxanismoi podhgetishs, ekmetaleyshs kai epibolh isxyrwn epi adynatwn omadwn alla kalokaga8a peiramata an8rwpinhs symbiwshs, mnhmeia anektitothtas kai an8rwpismou

[unmarkedX]

H eksaleipsh ka8e eidous e8nikhs h allhs topikhs aneksarthsias,  8rhskeutikhs organwshs, kai politismikhs synennohshs kai kyriws h apodomish dhmokratikwn aneksarthtwn kratwn (ta opoia exoun oikodomh8ei ola panw sthn idea kapoiou eidous sxesews kai koinhs tautothtas metaksy politwn) einai aparaithth

[unmarkedX]

wste na mporesoume na apolausoume koinwthta, asfaleia kai galhnh sthn aggalia tou Megalou Adelfou

Sta plaisia mias Aytokratorias pagkosmiou embeleias pou 8a euloghsei ton 21o aiwna (kai an eimaste tyxeroi thn aiwniothta) mia nea (monimh) PAX ROMANA

Kalles Douleies!

[Holomounza]

e3artatai poios einai o skopos. askeis mia kanonikopoihsh xwris idiaitera epixeirhmata.

[unmarkedX]

pes mas loipon POIOS einai o SKOPOS?

:-)

an o SKOPOS ths repoush einai TOSO KALOS, TOSO AGA8OS, TOSO REALISTIKOS,TOSO LOGIKOS, TOSO SAFHS toso ADIAMFISBHTHTA 8EMITOS,

giati den ksekinaei kai ekeinh kai OLOI ESEIS APO AYTO?

afhste to paramy8aki ths antikeimenikothtas , anagnwriste thn ideologikh sas upokeimenikothta kai TOPO8ETEISTE AYTH sto epikentro ths syzhtishs!

elate loipon!

TI FOBASTE?

poio einai to DIKO SOU epixeirhmata (en sxesei me otidhpote eipa BTW)?

pes mou 1?

ti les safws?

[Holomounza]

eilikrina re file... eisai toso mapas pou nomizeis oti se ena forum mporeis na kaneis episthmoniko dialogo? Opoios to prospa8ei einai h politikanths h ili8ios. Esu mallon prospa8eis na to pai3eis istoria edw mesa...

[punkrock6660]

dioti auto den einai "nea istoria" alla mia antistoixi aristeristiki morfi propagandas analogi autis tis ethnikistikis proseggisis tis istorias

[unmarkedX]

SY EIPAS

h istoria einai PROPAGANDA!

ME THN EPILOGH twn gegonotwn kai twn ptyxwn ayths pou parousizeis kaineis ideologikh kathxish

AYTH TH DOYLEIA KANEI H REPOYSH

sou apedeiksa oti me katallhlh epilogh gegonotwn mporeis mia xara na 8olwseis to istoriko topeio apolyta

h repoush endiaferetai na enoxopoihsei tous ellhnes gia thn M asia alla den yparxei periptwsh na epimerisei tis ey8hnes tou kemal (proswpika) gia thn armenikh genoktonia .DEN exei kamia sxesh auto me 'antikeimenikothta '

[unmarkedX]

apla egw se anti8esh me esena kserw arketh istoria gia na to katanow auto

esy exeis faei thn fola kai eisai ypoxeireio tou ka8ena pou sou poulaei taxa 'antikeimenikothta'

DEN YPARXEI ANTIKEIMENIKOTHTA sthn istoria

To ksoano auto TO KSEREI POLY KALA

alla kserei kai oti yparxoun xrhsimoi hli8ioi pou 8a xapsoun to paramy8i ths

[punkrock6660]

se arketa minimata moy soy eixa pei o idios oti antikeimenikotita symfwna me tin thewria tis "neas istorias" den yparxei!! kai i repousi an koita3eis to vivlio ekane mia kali prospathia na parathesei diaforetikes piges!!! alloste giati kapoios na thelei na dwsei anthelliniko xaraktira stin istoria tis elladas?

[unmarkedX]

egw exw pei oti antikeimenikothta den yparxei genikws (aneksarthtos rebisionismou)

esy egkataleipontas to paramy8i ths antikeimenikothtas twra fainetai na psaxneis na anaskeyaseis th dikh sou 8esh

[punkrock6660]

ti logo exei kapoios ellinas na enoxopoihsei tous ellines kai na iposteirizei toys tourkous se varos twn ellinwn? kaneis autes tis ypotheseis giati apla thigetai i ethnikistiki sou syneidisi? den perimena apo sena na moy peis oti me to na provalei kapoios mono ta gegonota pou toy xaideuoun ta autia parapoiei tin istoria!!! to megalytero erwtima einai pote tha vgalei o kosmos san k esena tis paropides kai na katalavei oti o ethnikismos mas paei pisw

[unmarkedX]

egw 8a pw mono oti to oti 8a didakseis istoria einai antrixiastiko

eisai apla anideos

yphrxan ellhnes eugeneis pou paredwsan byzantines poleis stous tourkous sthn Masia kai allou (kanonika)

yphrxe mia oloklhrh merida fanariwtwn(oxi oloi kai oxi h pleiopshfia) pou eilikrina sokaristike apo thn ellhnikh epanastash kai htan KATA!(htan me tous tourkous kanonika)

[unmarkedX]

polloi ellhnes htan kata ths apeleu8erwshs ths boreiou elladas (kai apo thn ellada kai apo thn o8wmanikh autokratoria)

meta thn apeleu8erwsh h xwra xwrizetai se politika stratopeda pou die8ynontai apo ksena symferonta(istorika adiamfisbhthto) kai etsi PARAMENEI EWS SHMERA!

[unmarkedX]

oi perses eksestrateuan kata twn ellhnwn me seira ellhnwn symboulwn kai plh8ws ellhnika strateumata

O kserkhs eftase stis 8ermopyles kai to artemhsio me plh8os iwnes (persiko nautiko den uphrkse pote sthn istoria htan oloi kata 1 logo foinikes kai kata deytero Iwnes) kai ellhnes pou stratologhse apo thn boreia ellada pou eixe katalabei

to basiko oplo tou dareiou apenanti sthn makedonikh fallagga htan fallages ellhnwn mis8oforwn oplitwn

[unmarkedX]

sobara milame an mporoun an8rwpoi ellhnikhs katagwghs na droun kata tou e8nikou symferontws?

ma sobara twra?

[unmarkedX]

ase exeis xasei epeisodeia sxetika me tis die8neis ideologikes ekselikseis apo to telos tou psyxrou polemou ews shmera

Einai nea gia esena to oti ena oloklhro kinhma an8rwpwn die8nws den 8ewrei to e8nos pleon apodekth bash gia thn kratikh organwsh?

giati enas tetois an8rwpos 8a leitourgouse pote me gnwmona to e8niko symferon?

AYTO EINAI POY 8A HTAN AKATANOHTO!

oxi to anti8eto!

[punkrock6660]

gia na teliwnoume.. tin ataka "anthelliniki" nea istoria tha ti lene kai stin tourkia (anti tourkiki) kai pantou... i nea istoria apla den einai ethnokentriki... prospathei na einai antikeimeniki kai na anapty3ei kritiki ikanotita stous mathites.. i repousi mporei na exei kanei lathi se auto to vivlio... an einai tyxaio gegonos den yparxei logos na tn katigoreis.. an egine me tropo propagandistiko opws ypostirizeis kai an aposiwpei gegonota gia na provalei tn ideologia ts tote kai egw diafwnw

[unmarkedX]

antikeimenika einai ta gegonota pou sou anefera

Oi neotourkoi EINAI oi autourgoi ths armenikhs genoktonias

GIATI den to didaskeis auto sta paidia?

h Toyrkokrateia sthn Ellada htan kata bash TOYRKOALBANOKRATEIA kai to sugxrono albaniko e8nos einai h synexeia tou tourkoalbanikou stoixeiou

Boulgaroi kai albanoi htan oi kyrioi antipaloi ths elladas ston 'ellhniko' emfylio

GIATI DEN TA DIDASKEIS AYTA?

ela twra...

ela twra..

[punkrock6660]

filaraki antikeimenikotita den einai i apo4i sou!! antikeimenikotita einai i apo4i olwn!!! den yparxei antikeimenikotita!! yparxei apo4i me perissotero kyros!! tha to dida3w alla tha to dida3w kai apo alles optikes kai me antitithemenes piges!! an itan to analytiko programa spoydwn anoikto tha didaska file!! meta apo meleti vevaia, panta sfairiki kai oxi mono apo ti pleura pou aresei se esena!!

[unmarkedX]

'antikeimeni kotita einai i apo4i olwn!!!' 'den yparxei antikeimenikotita!!' LOL kala entaksei exeis xasei thn mpala teleiws e? 'antikeimenikotita den einai i apo4i sou!!' 'yparxei apo4i me perissotero kyros!!' to opoio kyros prosdiorizetai pws akribws? mhpws me bash TH DIKH SOU APOPSH? :-) pali ypokeimenikothta dhladh! E loipon re filarako, pws 8a apodex8w ege, pou emfanws gnwrizw peri tinos omilw thn au8entia enos emfanws asxetou? asteia leme twra?

[unmarkedX]

Kai gia na ekte8eis akoma perissotero me ta peri apopshs kyrous

Apo ayta pou sou anefera

Ta perissotera einai ENTELWS ADIAMFISBHTHTA!

Px. gia to rolo tou boulgarikou kai albanikou e8nikismou ston ellhniko emfylio

DEN YPARXEI ENAS, MA ENAS (!) sxetikos istorikos die8nous kyrous pou den to epishmainei

Endeiktika Mazaouer , Quigley, Toynbee

H Repoush einai megalyterou kyrous apo olous autous?

[unmarkedX]

POIOS APO TOUS ELLHNES ISTORIKOUS pou grafoun sxolika biblia apo thn metapoliteush kai en8en aposiwpontas auta einai megaluterou kyrous?

[punkrock6660]

kapou se exw xasei.. den katalava ti kosmotheoria sou..profanws oute esi katalaves ti dikia mou.. alla mesw tou youtube den prokeitai na tin katalavw oute kai esi ti dikia m.. opote o teleutaios logos dikos sou!! to mono pou katalava einai oti den exeis diathesi oute gia dimosio dialogo alla gia dimosia epivoli tis apo4is sou.. Na sai kala.. kai na 3ereis oti ektimw to gegonos oti diavazeis!!

[punkrock6660]

"O Lewnidas prokalei atyxhma kai sobaro mpotiliarisma sto ypsos twn 8ermopyllwn " an ypirxe auti i apo4i kai na itan tekmiriwmeni tha eprepe na parousiazetai nai!! kai mesa apo ti nea istoria o mathitis tha exei mia kritiki ikanotita na ermineusei kai na sygkrinei tis piges gia na ekfrasei tin apo4i tou symfwna me tin egkyrotita kathe pigis!!

[unmarkedX]

to mpotiliarisma dhladh sth smyrnh pws to tekmhriwneis esy sta paidia?

lol

[punkrock6660]

nai agapite unmarkedX kathe travmatiko gegonos xwris na aposiwpisw kamia apo4i tis alitheias..giati istoriki alitheia den yparxei mono mia, aplws mporei i mia na exei perissotero kyros apo tin alli.. auto pou kaneis einai na katanalwneis energeia gia na vreis to paramikro lathos tis repousi gia na katigoriseis ti nea istoria.. to thema einai oti kai ta palia vivlia exoun poly perissoteres aposiwpiseis apo auto tis repousi alla auta den sou kanoun entupwsi dioti stirizoun to ethnos

[unmarkedX]

'kathe travmatiko gegonos xwris na aposiwpisw kamia apo4i tis alitheias..'

LOL

nai!

8a sou steilw egw to paidi mou ekei

Na metrate olh mera biasmous kai meta na kanete prosfaferteseis kai diaireseis gia na ermhneusete thn istoria

SYNEL8ETE REEEEEEEE

[unmarkedX]

Re esy den exeis o idios (megalos an8rwpos) akomh katanohsei poio einai to istoriko nohma ayths ths ateleiwths skytalodromias agriothtwn kai egklhmatwn

Den exeis kamia katanohsh ths an8rwpinhs fysh kai tou rolou ayths sthn istoria.Kai nomizeis oti mporeisna th didakseis swsta se mikra paidia?

Ta paidia xreiazontai (kai auto mporoun na proslaboun se auto to stadio) mia aplh kai euklola katanohth ekdoxh.H repoush apla antika8ista thn e8nikh propaganda me imperialistikh ante8nikh propaganda

[unmarkedX]

ase ta paramy8ia peri 'antikeimenikothtas' pou se taise h kyria

h politikh prow8hshs ths tourkias sthn Eyrwph mesw kai ths politikhs ypodoulwsh ths elladas kai kyprou se ayth, apla apaitei gkempeliskous, foreis ths propagandas aposiwphshs kai ekswraismou ths istorias ths geitwnos

Paidia dika mou oute mili konta se dhmosio ellhniko sxoleio

Kalytera na ta steilw kateu8eian sthn Albania (ligotero an8ellhniko 8a einai to klima)

[unmarkedX]

Pali kala pou de petyxe h epanastash kata tou Ahmadinejad giati an eprepe na ka8ageiastei kai to Iran

H Repousi kai h (NEA ISTORIA) 8a perielambane kai thhn Arxaia Istoria

Kai 8a xame:

O Lewnidas prokalei atyxhma kai sobaro mpotiliarisma sto ypsos twn 8ermopyllwn

[unmarkedX]

H madam mia xara propaganda anaparagei

an to problhma einai h alh8eia, giati den estiazei anti gia tous biasmous sthn armenikh genoktonia-den einai kentrikhs shmasias gegonos gia na katanohsei kaneis th 8esh twn xristianwn sthn MAsia?

8a didaksete eseis ths NEAS ISTORIAS ton istoriko rolo tou kemal (tou apeleu8erwth) kai twn neotourkwn sthn armenikh genoktonia?

OYTE auto einai PSEMA...

[unmarkedX]

8a didakseis sta albanakia sthn taksh sou sta plaisia ths NEAS ISTORIAS oti to 21 basika oi ellhnes polemousan tous progonous tous kai oxi tous tourkous ths M asias!

einai PSEMA oti sth notia balkanikh kata synrhptikh pleiopshfia aytoi pou ma8ainame emeis ws toukrous htan apla Tourkalbanoi (mousoulmanoi)?

8a didakseis gia thn synergasia twn boulgarwn kai twn albanwn me tous Nazi?

[unmarkedX]

gia to rolo boulgarwn kai albanwn e8nikistwn ston 'ellhniko' 'emfylio'?

einai psemata ayta? ara 8a ta didakseis fantazomai, afou h NEA istoria den einai apla Ante8nikos anaprosanatolismos propagandas-alla 'antikeimenikh proseggysh'?

:-)

[unmarkedX]

2

giati oi propagandistes pou sou ekanan plysh ekgefalou me metamonternes metafysikes geloiothtes tou styl oti 'antipalothtes yparxoun mono an tis pisteyoume'

sou poulhsan kai to paramy8i peri 'antikeimenikothtas' ths istorias

O Durant (pou kati parapanw skampazei apo istoria apo auto to ornio) grafei:

Most of history is guessing the rest is prejudice

[unmarkedX]

Giati se mperdeyei to oti ta biblia mas einai diaforetika

1

sygkrinete pragmatika ta oura me ta poura

as paei h repoush na pei stous tourkous na symperilaboun thn armenikh genoktonia sta biblia tous kai na doume me poses diaforetikes pthseis 8a gyrisoun ta kommatia ths

ws pros thn 'antikeimenikothta' ta tourkika biblia einai dekaeties pisw apo ta ellhnika

ws pros thn istorikh autokritikh kai ensyneidhsia sthn koinwnia h tourkinh koinwnia einai 1 aiwna pisw apo thn ellhnikh

[punkrock6660]

ti fovaste re? mi sas kle4oun tin ethniki mnimi? ti tha kerdiseis otan matheneis na exeis perissoterous exthrous, otan 3ereis mono ti mia pleura tis istorias, otan porwnese me to ethnos kai otan to thewreis anwtero apo ta alla? vgalte tis paropides!! zoun kai alloi anthrwpoi se auto ton planiti me tis dikes tous idiaiterotites. Psa3te gia filous oxi gia exthrous!!

[unmarkedX]

fobomaste kyriws thn diadwsh ths apoblakwshs pou se dernei

eite 'ma8aineis' oti exeis ex8rous eite oxi tous exeis

diabase ligo istoria na ksestrabw8eis

twra an esy boleyese kalytera me paramy8ia kai aposiwpish ths istorikhs pragmatikothtas problhma sou

alla ti prosapteis ? oti kapoios mporei na mhn 8elei na pollaplasiazontai ta zwa kai oi anistorhtoi sthn ellinikh koinwnia?

OK

ENOXOS

[punkrock6660]

nai agapite mou exeis exthrous giati apla dexese tin idea oti exeis exthrous... o tropos pou vlepeis ta pragmata den tha afisei pote na stamatisei autos o faulos kyklos.. oi anthropoi pou apokaleis zwa den gennithikan zwa... eginan zwa kai anistoritoi giati etsi tous theloun oi megaloi!! tous theloun na einai arnia kai na akolouthoun kathe politiki tous pou kryvei tin ethnikistiki tous ideologia.. itan o monos tropws autwn pou kyvernoun na kleisoun ta matia stous kyvernomenous!!

[unmarkedX]

h an8rwpinh fysh

IDIA KAI APARALAKTH stous istorikous xronous den exei afhsei na stamathsei o istorikos 'faulos kuklos'

Oi an8rwpoi -OLOI oi an8rwpoi-geniountai ka8hmerina ZWA

ta e8nh kai o e8nikismos pou mas les oti einai ideologia twn 'megalwn' pou 'gena ex8rous' apo to pou8ena sthn shmerinh tous ekdoxh uparxoun 2-3 aiwnes to poly

[unmarkedX]

Prin kai meta ta e8nh mia xara sfazontan kai sfazontai oi autokratories ,oi 8rhskies, oi politikes fatries, oi poleis krath, ta oikonomika symferonta

KAI  8A SFAZONTAI STON AIWNA TON APANTA

[unmarkedX]

to telos tou e8nikismou 8a ferei mono epanodo twn aytokratoriwn

telos ths e8nikhs aneskarthsias

telos politikwn dikaiwmatwn

telos ths dhmokratias

ex8roi, polemoi kai antipalothtes 8a synexisoun na yparxoun MIA XARA

[unmarkedX]

to oti exoume ex8rous einai apla realistikh diapistwsh

to oti mporoume taxa na tous ksorkisoume apla me thn fantasia mas einai ideolhpsia

[unmarkedX]

siga mhn einai o 'e8nikismos' h ideologia twn 'megalwn'!

LOL

[punkrock6660]

o ethnikismos einai ideologia pou eftiaksan oi megaloi gia na mporoun na elegxoun tis mazes.. giati me tosi ekmetaleusi den ipirxe allos tropos na tis proselkisoun kai na tis xeiragwgoun!!

[unmarkedX]

Nai oneirepsou

Oi megaloi ekanan oles tis epanastaseis pou apodomhsan thn Bretanikh thn o8wmanikh kai thn Ispanikh aytokratoria kai apeley8erwsan thn thn eyrwph, thn afrikh kai thn asia apo ton kseno zygo

Enw h Ierh symaxia kata twn e8nikwn kinhmatwn htan LAIKO KINHMA

LOL

Sas exei kanei h repoush ksefteria!

[punkrock6660]

me poia logiki tha yparksei epanodos twn autokratoriwn? otan i stirizontai oi proin autokratores se auti tin ideologia thelontas tis mazes na aporrofountai stis exthrotites pou vasizontai stis fyletikes diafores kleinontas tous ta matia me tropo pou na min tous afinoun na doun oti to kyrio provlima einai to ta3iko kai i anisotita stis koinwnikes ta3eis? me poio tropo o ethnikismos diasfalizei ta politika dikaiomata?

[unmarkedX]

oi autokratories sthrizontai ston e8nikismo?????

ti na pei kaneis?

eseis eiste pou didaskete istoria sta paidia?

plaka kaneis?

Dhmokrateia kai isopoliteia exei yparksei mono sta e8nika krath

pote se allh morfh kratous

auto to petyxe o e8nikismos

AKRIBWS 8etwntas thn taksikh tautothta se 2h moira enanti ths e8nikhs

[unmarkedX]

diabase ligo aristotelh anti gia repoush na katalabeis pws o monos tropos 2 an8rwpoi me diaforetikoi koinwnikh 8esh an einai isotimoi se mia politeia einai na syndeontai me desmous kai na feroun idiothtes pou uperbainoun ton plouto

[punkrock6660]

prin ta ethni sfazontan oi xamiles ta3eis me tis megales me stoxo na katargithei i douleia kai i feoudarxia. vlepe galliki epanastasi.. afou to kataferan kai telika i astiki ta3i mpike stin e3ousia me ti voithia tis ergatikis dimiourgise ton ethnikismo akrivws gia na tin prosanatolisei stis fyletikes diafores kai oxi stis ta3ikes anisotites

[unmarkedX]

nai nai

o Aleksandros epite8hke kata ths persikhs aytokratorias giati eixe syndykalistikes diafores me to Dareio

Oi stayrofories eginan giati oi Arabes den eixan monimopoihsei kati symbasiouxous proskynhtes

ktl.

[punkrock6660]

οχι το έκανε γιατί είχε εθνική συνείδηση!!

[unmarkedX]

oi tourkoi poliorkhsan thn bienh giati oi Austriakoi den ypegrafan thn syllogikh symbash gia tis amoibes gia tis xoreutries ths koilias

[unmarkedX]

sthn amerikanikh epanastsh dhl. poioi htan oi kata ths 'douleias kai ths feoudarxias'

h Bretanikh aytokratoria?

h

oi gaiwkthmones twn apoikiwn?

LMFAO

[punkrock6660]

filaraki eisai to kalitero paradeigma pou mporouses na mou dwseis oti den einai eukolo prama na alla3ei o kosmos pros to kalytero kai oti yparxoun polla empodia san k esena!!

an den ypirxe ethnikismos les den tha ypirxe dimokratia les!! pou einai i dimokratia? posos kosmos einai ikanopoiimenos apo tin kyvernisi? pou einai sygkentrwmeno to megalitero meros tou ploutou tis ghs? ti pososta anthropwn zoun se athleies synthikes? esi pws ta e3igeis auta? Fysiko fainomeno?

[punkrock6660]

nai 2 aiwnes k kati giati prin apo tote ypirxan xeirotera!! oi douleia kai feoudarxia kai afou den eixan auto to oplo den mporesan na kratisoun auti tin katastasi..

kanenas anthrwpos den genietai zwo.. o xaraktiras kathe anthrwpou diamorfwnetai. Den yparxei apo panta.. symfwnw oti yparxoun zwa alla o ethnikismos diaiwnizei auti tin katastasi.. den ypostirizw oti an stamatisei amesws o ethnikismos tha ginoun ola meli gala.. tha exei 3eperastei ena megalo empodio!!

[unmarkedX]

nai o an8rwpos den genietai me enstikta anaparagwghs kai autosynthrishs opws ta alla zwa

genietai kat eikona kai kat omoiwsh tou 8eoulh?

[punkrock6660]

telospantwn.. i syzitisi edw sto youtube den exei noima!! oute esi oute egw mporoume na ekfrasoume tis apo4eis mas me kapoia seira... an thes me kapoio allo tropo na milisoume euxaristws!!! ta leme

[unmarkedX]

:-)

anapoda ta exeis

MONO o dhmosios dialogos exei nohma

Mono osoi exoun thn dynatothta kai thn pro8esh na katalaboun poios pragmatika einai o sysxetismos katanohshs sygkrotishs kai epixeirhmatwn anamesa stis 2 pleures pou opws kseroume sygkrouontai gia auto kai paraplhsia zhthmata sth xwra, me endiaferoun

Esy proswpika mou eisai adiaforos

[unmarkedX]

To e8nos mou den einai anwtero

Alla EKTOS apo tous ALLOYS me idieterothtes,

E, ti na kanoume DIKAIOYTAI kai to diko mou e8nos na exei IDIAITEROTHTES

Oso kai an atoma san esena goustaroun na mas tis apagoreusoun epeidh mas 8ewteite

KATWTEROYS apo oloys toys allous

Antimetwpiste prwta to diko sas ratsismo kai fasismo pou ksexylizei pleon kwloanarxikoi kai meta ta leme

[punkrock6660]

den ipa oti den exeis esi idiaiterotites!! auto pou lew einai oti oloi oi ethnikistes se kathe xwra lene panta tin mia plevra tis istorias..ekeinin pou tous voleuei!!! Gia tin akrivia ekeini tin alitheia pou voleuei tin e3ousia otan sou tin fyteuoun sto kefali me to mathima tis istorias... den lew oti ta palia vivlia istorias den elegan tin alitheia. tin elegan alla aposiopwntas gegonota kai parousiazontas ti mia pleura twn gegonotwn..

[stenaki]

Ρεπούση ΠΟΥΤΤΤΑΝΑΑΑΑΑΑΑΑΡΑΑΑΑΑΑΑΑΑΑΑ!!­!!!!

[cuts666]

ante moroi poutanoskilo..............

[stenaki]

ανευθυνος ειναι ο τροπος που δρας εσυ καριολα.

[afrozog]

den to pisteuw oti einai toso ethnikisestes oi anthropoi pou einai guro mou!!! einai timh mou pou thn exw kathigitria!!!! einai polu prosta auth h gunaika

[greekrevolution1821]

να την χαρεσαι.μονο να μην αρχισεις να διδασκεις σε σχολειο οταν αποφοιτησεις

[afrozog]

eutuxws tha didaksw kai elpizw na mhn kanw kai allous ethinikistes san kai esas pou goustarete na blepeta anthropous na upoferoun sta oria ths eksathliosis sthn elladara mas alla an ta kanoun se emas einai kragiko otan tous ta kanoume emeis einai kalo... poses gunaikes viassan oi dikoi mas otan mpenane sthn tourkia??? den antexo allo thn amathia sas kai ton anthnikismo sas

[greekrevolution1821]

κοιτα να γραφεις στα ελληνικα τουλαχιστον.εμεις δεν ειμαστε μελλοντικοι καθηγητες και γραφουμε στα ελληνικα.επεσες στην παγιδα ζωο,το τι θα βγουν οι μαθητες σου δεν ειναι δικο σου θεμα,εσυ οφειλεις να τους παρεχεις πολυπλευρη μορφωση,οχι να προσυλητιζεις

[punkrock6660]

mazi sou synadelfe sti didaskalia tis neas istorias!!! astous fasistes kai tous ethnikistes na vrizoun otan den exoun epixeirimata..

[unmarkedX]

poses?

gia pes mas loipon?

pes mas meta kai poses

se Kwn/polh-Ponto-M Asia-8essalonikh-Makedonia-Ste­rea kai Pelloponnhso-Krhth-Xio-Kasso-p­ali Krhth-Makedonia-An 8rakh-Smyrni-pali Ponto-pali MAsia-pali kwn/poli-Kypro

pes mas poses biasthkan ekei

gia pes mas peri 'ama8eias'

[unmarkedX]

koita na diabaseis tipote allo ektos apo repoush mpas kai ma8eis kat arxhn oti se kamia 'tourkia' den eisbalame pote

Eishl8ame sthn o8wmanikh autokratoria

symfwna me die8neis syn8hkes kai me adeia ths o8wmanikhs dioikishs

[punkrock6660]

pragmatika den exw meletisei auta ta gegonota... kai an i repousi parousiazei mono auti tin apo4i kai oxi tin alli pou aneferes.. symfwnw oti einai lathos me tin proypothesi oti einai tekmiriwmeni apo4i!!

[punkrock6660]

eginan nai viasmoi kai polla apanthrwpa gegonota!!! kai apo ti dikia mas plevra omws!! auto einai pou aposiwpatai... pws dikaiologeitai i diaforetikotita stin parousiasi twn gegonotwn sta dika mas sxoleia me ta sxoleia stin tourkia gia paradeigma?? poioi lene telika 4emata emeis oi autoi? kaneis de leei 4emata!! aplws parousiazoun o kathenas ta gegonota opws tous voleuei!!

[unmarkedX]

Ayth einai einai pou les h 'nea istoria'

nai, allakse h Istoria kai egine NEA!

Toso tromerh ka8hghtria einai h repoush pou oi foithtes ths den gnwrizoun oute thn ennoia tou istorikou rebizionismou?

[unmarkedX]

oi germanides pou biiasthkan -afou exeis emonh me tous biasmous-apo ton kokkino strato kata thn proelash tou sthn An Germania uplogizontai sta 3 ekatomyria

oi amaxoi nekroi apo thn isopedwsh ths Dresdhs se dekades xilliades

oi germanoi aixmalwtoi polemou pou eksontw8hkan sta stratwpeda sugkentrwshs twn symaxwn se dekades me ekatontades xilliades

[unmarkedX]

prin akoma apo thn eksaxnwsh, dekadwn xilliadwn se Hiroshima kai Nagassaki

peri tis ekato xilliades amaxoi Iapwnes kahkan zwntanoi kata thn pyrpolysh tou Tokyo me Napalm

perissoteroi apo 12 ekatomyria(!) germanoi ekdiwx8hkan apo thn anatolikh eurwph -opou zousan epi aiwnes-meta to telos tou 2ou P Polemou

oi oroi eirhnhs tou A pagkosmiou ontws htan toso odynyroi gia thn Germania wste synebalan ston eklogiko 8riambo twn Nazi

[unmarkedX]

To symperasma einai poio?

oti prepei stis xwres pou polemhsan me tous symaxous na ma8ainoume sta paidia mas oti kakws polemhsan oi propapoudes tous kakws antista8hkan ston aksona?

oti ta e8nh tous einai e8nh mazikwn dolofonwn, biastwn kai ekglhmatiwn?

[amadeus2270]

Ntroph sas prodotes.

Oi hrwes tou Messologiou epexeirhsan hrwikh exodo?Kai meta ti?Tous kerasane oi mongoloi kafedaki kai gluko tou koutaliou?Oute mia seira gia thn sfagh pou akolouthhse?Kolymphthroxulo den afhsane ta kthnh.Auta ta aisxh tous pou phgane?

Ntroph sas anthellhnes.O theos einai megalos omws kai vlepei.

Ellas uperanw olwn.

[angelntini]

Μα τι λέτε ρε παιδιά;Μην την κατακρίνετε!Άλλωστε και μόνη της το λέει:"Το Υπουργείο-το κράτος λειτουργεί με τόσο ανεύθυνο τρόπο".Και φυσικά λειτουργεί με ανεύθυνο τρόπο αφού έβαλε στα σχολεία ένα τέτοιο βιβλίο!Αι χάσου..., στις πλάτες μας και με τα λεφτά μας παίζετε παιχνίδια!

[miramaron]

Ti mas les mwri, mono i frasi'synwstismos' itan pou vrikes enoxlitiki??? I frasi 'emfanistike o Ibraim stin Peloponniso' ti itan? Emfanistike, pige diladi mia voltitsa! Kai posa alla arage...telos pantwn. Oso gia ta ektropa tou ellinikou stratou sti Smirni, NA TO POUME, opws to elege kai to palio vivlio tis Istorias Desmis! Alla na deiksoume kai ta paloukwmena kefalia twn Armeniwn an einai!

[tedkioussis]

περιμενω με αγωνια λεπτομερειες για τα "εκτροπα του ελληνικου στρατου στη Σμυρνη". εμπρησμοι, κλοπες και "εκτροπα" διεπραχθησαν μονο απο αυτομολους στρατιωτες και μονο κατα την καταρευση-υποχωρηση τον Αυγουστο του 22. ολα τ' αλλα ειναι εξισωσεις εκ του πονηρου!

[babouras123]

Ki omos, oxi mono den ufistatai poines i Repousi, alla mia xara volemeni einai mazi me sxedon olous tous allous Panepistimiakous. Douleuei 6 ores tin evdomada, pairnei kanena 1500ri katharo, eno anthropoi pou aksizoun trexoun sta vouna kai se oreines perioxes na kanoun mathima, kai vlepoun to spiti tous kathe 3-4 mines. S' auti ti xora an eisai aristeros, luneis to provlima tis zois sou.

[MparmpaKostasGR]

Thanatos eis tous anarxikous kai tous pasis fiseos anomalous! Auti i palioevraia na paei amesos sto thalamo aerion kai meta na ginei sapuni.

[twohandtap]

pornidio, ante psofa!

[Rwssel]

ΡΕ PUSSY

[retireka]

Μαρια Ρεπουτση!!!

[misopogon10]

e oxi kai h propaganda tou synaspismou na didasketai sta sxoleia re pousth mou..

[13mushrooms]

ta 32.000euro pou pire ws amoibi ?? giati kaneis de leei tpt gi auto? otan plirwneis kapoion na kanei kati swsta k den to kanei i koini logiki leei oti sou epistrefontai ta xrimata.

[fotopxar]

Den trexei kai tipota re paidia !!! Dhmokratia den exoume?? Synostismos h Smyrnh...Makedonia ta Skopia...Voulgaros o Megas Alexandros...kai oloi mazi sto plevro ths kyrias Repoush pou niwthei kai apogohtevmenh !!! AAAAAAA RE XOUNTA pou sas xreiazetai...an kai lypamai pou to lew.

[honda53cm]

asxeto alla kserete poio einai to tragoudi poy pezei stin atxi tis ekpompis??

[sstakis]

ayta symvainoun otan i gynaika fygei apo tin fisiki tis thesi ( spiti - kouzina ) kai mpei ston pragmatiko kosmo....kanei malakies polles kai anepanorthotes ( repousi , giannakou,koulouri..)....ainte piso sta gnosta sas posta...pou thelate na kante kai politiki....

[Laistrigonas]

i repousi einai tragiki den leei istoriki alla politiki apopsi,tin diki tis kai kala tha kani na tin kratisei gia parti tis...

[malakomagnitis]

Μάγκας εισαι αγόρι μου.