From the UN, EU, Chinese Governments, American Governments...does not matter what government we make claims and complaints against...it is WE the PEOPLE who determine what we allow them to get away with. We have no other to blame, but self! I see in the future the People raising against all injustices! The ultimate battle on this planet is for JUSTICE and the RIGHTS given to us by the HEAVENS, not by man or government! there are things Americans do not know about their own, so too, all others!
Glen McGregor of Ottawa Citzen recently wrote an espose on Falun Gong's organ harvesting allegation. Google this:
"Glen McGregor Inside China crematorium"
Sujiatun is a busy hospital on a main street surrounded by tall appartment building, there's no way to hide 5,000 prisoners, guards, doctors, nurses, equipment, supplies.
Also, both US State Dept and chinese dissident Harry Wu have conducted undercover investigation inside China and found the allegation not credible.
China has existed for 2000+ years. CCP is prosecuting FLG, NOT China. China is great for its people, not for the CCP. If you disagree, go buy a one-way ticket to China & live in its "harmonious & prosperous" government. Why bother staying in the US? FLG started in China 1992 and was widely welcomed & practiced for 7 years before the ban. So either CCP is really dumb to take this long to figure out it is a "cult" or it is scared because its members are being outnumbered.
Chinese Products Are As Cheap As The labor, they do not last, break and contaminate all who use or touch them. Screw You...You Only Know What Your Government Wants You To Know, You Only Do What Government Tells You To Do, You Are Blind To Your Own Government!
Apparently, I am not brainwashed by those commies cause I am in North America. lol~ and please look around your environment. from the shoes you wear to the laptop you use, all related to China. I hate commies, but USA is not just as well. Arrogant and ignorant, that is what I use to decribe americans.
China does rely on Australian raw materials like coal iron ore & natural gas.. and i bet alot of coutries supply them with the resources they need so i think the world can do something about it
bullshit. the governments of west countries are all greedy. they just want to earn money from China. they will not do anything to against it. and shall we do something against USA and Britain cause they invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and slaughtered limitless muslims?
Most Chinese hope you sick nuts become fucking pigs.
And to those who believed in these nonsense,Can't u guys be grown up? If I say the American Army make Biological and chemical weapons tests on Guantanamo
prisoners, will you believe this?
I have no evidence, I just made it up.
u fucking foreigners use the organs of our passed people,but slander us in return, may u got fucked by ur dogs.
Yet, we also cannot dismiss the fact that human rights problems have existed and are still exists in China, not as a minor, but a major problem. Due to the structure of the social system, history, economy, and more than anything, the population, human rights problem will perhaps always exist in China. (But then, human rights problem exist everywhere in the world, including U.S.A., even the U.N. itself discriminates)
There's a few questions that can be asked about this film, for one, the authenticity of this situation... and two, what can be improved about this situation? I can understand chrisluo's sentiments towards Falun's action, because this is very obviously a Falun propaganda film, which, of course, will take side with Falun and condemn the whole of China.
This film do explore a very serious human rights problem in China, but I think it would have been better without the over-emphasis on Falun as an oppressed group. This type of propaganda film will only rise further discrimination against both groups, and bring even more conflict than necessary.
We Chinese people dont care about how others see us, i dont care whether you are smart enough or you are fooled by "falun"(a group of people who dont do nothing but discredit their mother country everyday) Think big guys, try to look at the bigger picture. China is the biggest developing country in the world. Dont be surprised if you wake up one day and find out China becomes the speaker of world's propaganda. Then you will understand how we feel today.
People need to use your own widsom and conscience when viewing this kind of video. People present the video clip, if that bring up your curiousity, then you can investigate by yourself. Listing all your know and truth. Think and review the materials. If the ogran harvest really existing then no matter is on FuLun Kong members or not, it is not humane. Another point, the waiting list for organ transplant usually is very long. That is for sure.
When I ask my college classmates from all over China, "Do you know what Falun is" or "Do you know someone in your life in Falun", no one knows and no one join!!! Falun is nothing in China, these guys just "created" Falun out of China, not in China~~~
I don't get it. Why Falun can make so big in west countries? Is that because you guys need something to discuss about China??? Falun sucks in China, no one in my life even know what Falun is! It just like became a big organisation over night. Come on, guy, be grown up! If you want say something about China, just shoose something really important to Chinese.
too bad my dad thinks the same like the most ppl here. he really was mad with this video, he says that ppl are trying to china looks bad...That the falun gong is fake and the pcr and mao ze dong is so perfect. but most of my western friends thinks that mao ze dong and communism is pure evil... I'm just in between, just balanced u can say...it's really confusing. It sorrows my heart that china is still primitive...
Taiwan was ruled under martial law until the late 1980's, and the only reason we supported JiangJie Shi instead of Mao tse dung, is because we liked him a litlle better, d, thats it, this video sucks, is fake and horribly wrong at that. Pure anti-Chinese Propaganda.
this video sucks, and the translation that they use from Chinese sucks.
E. The PRC has control Beijing for the past 66 years. How are they not the real Chinese government. They are ( this is not to delegitimize the Taiwanese ) a member of the P% because a, china helped win world war 2, well, we helped them, b, they have a far more stategic location than Taiwan, so why shouldnt they be the p5 representitive?,c,
china didn't helped the world war 2, it were the americans. China was in thirties 'prisoned' by the japanese and because of cooperation of kuomintang and the communist the japanese were vanguished. Still the china was too weak to fight along with world war 2 and there were national troubles with the political parties between kuomintang and communist. They were fighting who should be "the boss".
If you read more about the chinese history from every point of view(not the point of view from pcr), you will learn a lot! note: not every government is perfect since u're really strong advocate of prc
c. China has only 400 nuclear weapons compared to over 10,000 in the US, and over 16,000 in Russia, and only 24 are capable of hitting anywhere in the United States. China also has no active working aircraft carrier, and we dominate the pacific with our navy. The presumption that the chinese are a threat to us is horribly wrong
Which is why its campaign to defame Falun Gong has been so large and so drawn out. If Falun Gong really was an evil cult it wouldnt have lasted this long. Falun gong is Good, Very good and its practitioners try there best to live by the principles taught in Falun Gong which are based on truthfulness compassion and tolerance
Falun Gong is good and peaceful. People are free to leave it if they wish, it is not a cult. The CCP is lying to chinese people. CCP is the most murderous regime in the history of the world. They made a holocaust against chinese people from the very start, and continue to this day. CCP is an illegitimate gangster regime unworthy of a future. They will soon fall, and fall hard.
Chen Yonglin, Chinese diplomat sought political asylum in Austrailia last year. He disclosed frightening stories about Falun Gong persecution by Chinese government. Yuan Sheng, Chinese pilot asked political asylum in US last August. In addition, there happened recent Tibetan killing at Nepalese border. All are consistent with CCP's insidiously manipulative nature.
It is all true. Watch David Kilgore and David Matas report on youtube and/or read the report! Also, I personally have met Wang Yuzhi who is in the video and other people who have been tortured and tested in Chinese Communist Labour Camps for "organ harvesting". It's all true. Those who post denial comments here are either unaware or deliberately making denials.
Congratulations. You have the Internet in your country now. You can learn what your gov. won't tell you. ...Why do you mention Japan? This is about CN.
geez since u're 17 and from PRC, i guess you know nothing about tien'anmen square in 1989 or bout the book "wild swans" of Jung Chang (pronounced as "yung chang")writtin in pursuance of the killed students of the tien'anmen in 1989
Falun Gong practictioners are not dogs, they are human beings that deserve the right to worship what ever and whom ever they want. They are persecuted like most faiths ( especially Christians ) in China.
There are people in all lands that do bad. Chinese are not crazy. Sin brings more sin regardless who you are. You are no better than they are. It is very bad you say Japanese should have murdered them all. Where are your morals?
chinese are not crazy, u should watch our what u're saying. Chinese ppl are very sensitive and still bearing a grudge to japanese ppl, like my grandma. Ok the blame doesn't lie on chinese ppl but the chinese goverment. U should know this stuff first before saying something stupid!
A Canadian human rights lawer and the former Canadian Secretary of State just got back from a 2 month investigation and published this report: http://www.investigation.redirectme.net/
Yeah, they investigated by hearing what others had said, not what they've seen. They were not granted a visa, which is not right either on the Chinese government. However, what's the point of allowing these people to go to china to inspect anyways if they are ready very bias towards to start with?
Obviously it has been forgotten that the Communist Party in China was foundied on lies, blood, and greed. Any time they want to erradicate something they will put there all into it to decieve the Chinese in China and all the people of the world.
On April 14, 2006, US State Department released a statement [74] [75] that "found NO EVIDENCE that the site is being used for any function other than as a normal public hospital".
"this hospital--Liaoning Thrombus Medical Treatment Center--is not a state owned company but one partly invested by a Malaysian company"
Fact is those places that were found clean had large amounts of time to clean those areas of evidence before anyone was given a chance to search them.In addition to that there has been large amounts of evidence collected already. Included phone calls between doctors in china and patients around the world where sentences like all of our organs come from falun gong practitioners.
From the UN, EU, Chinese Governments, American Governments...does not matter what government we make claims and complaints against...it is WE the PEOPLE who determine what we allow them to get away with. We have no other to blame, but self! I see in the future the People raising against all injustices! The ultimate battle on this planet is for JUSTICE and the RIGHTS given to us by the HEAVENS, not by man or government! there are things Americans do not know about their own, so too, all others!
Kachina888 3 years ago
@Kachina888 Well it isn't the heavens most likely, but we should all strive as one and pursue equality within every human.
Specopleader 4 months ago
Falun Gong let people did not take the medication, medical treatment, anti-science supporting the turmoil, is an evil cult that is a terrorist!
我看过法轮功的书里面说李洪志可以穿墙,他太可笑了,这样一个人很难让我相信它们不是一个邪教...
我姥姥曾经学法轮功,后来她让我把书烧了,我看到过内容...哈哈...
Kevinyh1988 4 years ago
So you're saying the report is true but it's their fault that you are conducting live vivisections on them, right?
jackelliston 2 years ago
in china, the prisoner are executed by the painless poisons injection, the poisons Spread to everywhere by vascular. how can it be sold?
中国用注射死刑,毒物由血管扩散致中枢神经麻痹死亡.如此器官如何卖?when you post something, think over.
huaxingyuan 4 years ago
Glen McGregor of Ottawa Citzen recently wrote an espose on Falun Gong's organ harvesting allegation. Google this:
"Glen McGregor Inside China crematorium"
Sujiatun is a busy hospital on a main street surrounded by tall appartment building, there's no way to hide 5,000 prisoners, guards, doctors, nurses, equipment, supplies.
Also, both US State Dept and chinese dissident Harry Wu have conducted undercover investigation inside China and found the allegation not credible.
bobbyfletcher2006 4 years ago
China has existed for 2000+ years. CCP is prosecuting FLG, NOT China. China is great for its people, not for the CCP. If you disagree, go buy a one-way ticket to China & live in its "harmonious & prosperous" government. Why bother staying in the US? FLG started in China 1992 and was widely welcomed & practiced for 7 years before the ban. So either CCP is really dumb to take this long to figure out it is a "cult" or it is scared because its members are being outnumbered.
silverylotus 4 years ago
china is crazy.. the world would be bad if china overpowered the US..
metalcar 4 years ago
I agree 100% not only that but all of their products too :-)
ChoSeungHui2 4 years ago
sadly, I bet you cant survive without Chinese products for even one week time. lol~
hoover1985 4 years ago
Chinese Products Are As Cheap As The labor, they do not last, break and contaminate all who use or touch them. Screw You...You Only Know What Your Government Wants You To Know, You Only Do What Government Tells You To Do, You Are Blind To Your Own Government!
Kachina888 4 years ago
Apparently, I am not brainwashed by those commies cause I am in North America. lol~ and please look around your environment. from the shoes you wear to the laptop you use, all related to China. I hate commies, but USA is not just as well. Arrogant and ignorant, that is what I use to decribe americans.
hoover1985 4 years ago
China does rely on Australian raw materials like coal iron ore & natural gas.. and i bet alot of coutries supply them with the resources they need so i think the world can do something about it
FrogGodbee 4 years ago
bullshit. the governments of west countries are all greedy. they just want to earn money from China. they will not do anything to against it. and shall we do something against USA and Britain cause they invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and slaughtered limitless muslims?
hoover1985 4 years ago
Thtas just messed up!!!!
sephiroth2172 4 years ago
falun kong go to hell,you sick nuts.
Most Chinese hope you sick nuts become fucking pigs.
And to those who believed in these nonsense,Can't u guys be grown up? If I say the American Army make Biological and chemical weapons tests on Guantanamo
prisoners, will you believe this?
I have no evidence, I just made it up.
u fucking foreigners use the organs of our passed people,but slander us in return, may u got fucked by ur dogs.
meanfree 4 years ago
Yet, we also cannot dismiss the fact that human rights problems have existed and are still exists in China, not as a minor, but a major problem. Due to the structure of the social system, history, economy, and more than anything, the population, human rights problem will perhaps always exist in China. (But then, human rights problem exist everywhere in the world, including U.S.A., even the U.N. itself discriminates)
eveafeline 4 years ago
There's a few questions that can be asked about this film, for one, the authenticity of this situation... and two, what can be improved about this situation? I can understand chrisluo's sentiments towards Falun's action, because this is very obviously a Falun propaganda film, which, of course, will take side with Falun and condemn the whole of China.
eveafeline 4 years ago
This film do explore a very serious human rights problem in China, but I think it would have been better without the over-emphasis on Falun as an oppressed group. This type of propaganda film will only rise further discrimination against both groups, and bring even more conflict than necessary.
eveafeline 4 years ago
We Chinese people dont care about how others see us, i dont care whether you are smart enough or you are fooled by "falun"(a group of people who dont do nothing but discredit their mother country everyday) Think big guys, try to look at the bigger picture. China is the biggest developing country in the world. Dont be surprised if you wake up one day and find out China becomes the speaker of world's propaganda. Then you will understand how we feel today.
chrisluo 4 years ago
People need to use your own widsom and conscience when viewing this kind of video. People present the video clip, if that bring up your curiousity, then you can investigate by yourself. Listing all your know and truth. Think and review the materials. If the ogran harvest really existing then no matter is on FuLun Kong members or not, it is not humane. Another point, the waiting list for organ transplant usually is very long. That is for sure.
millrdge1 4 years ago
When I ask my college classmates from all over China, "Do you know what Falun is" or "Do you know someone in your life in Falun", no one knows and no one join!!! Falun is nothing in China, these guys just "created" Falun out of China, not in China~~~
pigeon1212 5 years ago
Maybe no one wants to admit being part of Falun Gong because they are AFRAID.
zenhill 4 years ago
I don't get it. Why Falun can make so big in west countries? Is that because you guys need something to discuss about China??? Falun sucks in China, no one in my life even know what Falun is! It just like became a big organisation over night. Come on, guy, be grown up! If you want say something about China, just shoose something really important to Chinese.
pigeon1212 5 years ago
This is very important because innoncent Chinese are being murdered by your government.
zenhill 4 years ago
too bad my dad thinks the same like the most ppl here. he really was mad with this video, he says that ppl are trying to china looks bad...That the falun gong is fake and the pcr and mao ze dong is so perfect. but most of my western friends thinks that mao ze dong and communism is pure evil... I'm just in between, just balanced u can say...it's really confusing. It sorrows my heart that china is still primitive...
fongsje 5 years ago
everyone should know about this,yes ,but they don't know the true.
teddycai 5 years ago
everyone should know about this.
activered 5 years ago
Taiwan was ruled under martial law until the late 1980's, and the only reason we supported JiangJie Shi instead of Mao tse dung, is because we liked him a litlle better, d, thats it, this video sucks, is fake and horribly wrong at that. Pure anti-Chinese Propaganda.
gtthompson1 5 years ago
Watch carefully. The interviewees seem like really bad actors.
Wonderwomanrox 5 years ago
this video sucks, and the translation that they use from Chinese sucks.
E. The PRC has control Beijing for the past 66 years. How are they not the real Chinese government. They are ( this is not to delegitimize the Taiwanese ) a member of the P% because a, china helped win world war 2, well, we helped them, b, they have a far more stategic location than Taiwan, so why shouldnt they be the p5 representitive?,c,
gtthompson1 5 years ago
china didn't helped the world war 2, it were the americans. China was in thirties 'prisoned' by the japanese and because of cooperation of kuomintang and the communist the japanese were vanguished. Still the china was too weak to fight along with world war 2 and there were national troubles with the political parties between kuomintang and communist. They were fighting who should be "the boss".
fongsje 5 years ago
If you read more about the chinese history from every point of view(not the point of view from pcr), you will learn a lot! note: not every government is perfect since u're really strong advocate of prc
fongsje 5 years ago
A. Stalins is the most deadly regime in history
b. This video is a horible fake
c. China has only 400 nuclear weapons compared to over 10,000 in the US, and over 16,000 in Russia, and only 24 are capable of hitting anywhere in the United States. China also has no active working aircraft carrier, and we dominate the pacific with our navy. The presumption that the chinese are a threat to us is horribly wrong
d.
gtthompson1 5 years ago
Which is why its campaign to defame Falun Gong has been so large and so drawn out. If Falun Gong really was an evil cult it wouldnt have lasted this long. Falun gong is Good, Very good and its practitioners try there best to live by the principles taught in Falun Gong which are based on truthfulness compassion and tolerance
sagideon 5 years ago
Falun Gong is good and peaceful. People are free to leave it if they wish, it is not a cult. The CCP is lying to chinese people. CCP is the most murderous regime in the history of the world. They made a holocaust against chinese people from the very start, and continue to this day. CCP is an illegitimate gangster regime unworthy of a future. They will soon fall, and fall hard.
fecalpeanutz 5 years ago
Chen Yonglin, Chinese diplomat sought political asylum in Austrailia last year. He disclosed frightening stories about Falun Gong persecution by Chinese government. Yuan Sheng, Chinese pilot asked political asylum in US last August. In addition, there happened recent Tibetan killing at Nepalese border. All are consistent with CCP's insidiously manipulative nature.
kooozo 5 years ago
This is the country of one of the nuclear power,
permanent member of the United Nations.
this is fact.It's frightening custom.
MBvaint 5 years ago
Is this all true? Check out this old news reel clip I found and posted; it's an interview with a supposed Organ Broker.
AustinOz6 5 years ago
Falun Cult ...
mmivv 5 years ago
It is all true. Watch David Kilgore and David Matas report on youtube and/or read the report! Also, I personally have met Wang Yuzhi who is in the video and other people who have been tortured and tested in Chinese Communist Labour Camps for "organ harvesting". It's all true. Those who post denial comments here are either unaware or deliberately making denials.
bengb33 5 years ago
Maybe they were eaten.
"Lanzhou (AsiaNews) Police from the northern province of Gansu have found two cooked human arms,
presumed to have belonged to children aged between five to eight years, in a Lanzhou landfill. A week ago,
121 human skulls were discovered in the same province. The news was reported by the South China Morning
Post, citing local sources and media."
mash84 5 years ago
this video is fake. all japanese are Liar.
xaodidi 5 years ago
Hello, brainwashed guy!
Takosuke2006 5 years ago
Congratulations. You have the Internet in your country now. You can learn what your gov. won't tell you. ...Why do you mention Japan? This is about CN.
kazuo62 5 years ago
I don't think xaodidi'll be allowed to have dissidents thoughts...or he'll be put in prison... anayway china is trying to "pure" internet traffic...
fongsje 5 years ago
geez since u're 17 and from PRC, i guess you know nothing about tien'anmen square in 1989 or bout the book "wild swans" of Jung Chang (pronounced as "yung chang")writtin in pursuance of the killed students of the tien'anmen in 1989
fongsje 5 years ago
fake.. falungong people with political motivation~
hiking911 5 years ago
i used to sympathize falungong people. but it is over as i saw those fake wideo with political motivation
biginhot 5 years ago
amazing ! ! ! I begin to believe what I see on youtube !
ferrelkevin 5 years ago
lol...
lmn604 5 years ago
fake,i dont believe the fucking FaLun info
316454407 5 years ago
Falun Gong practictioners are not dogs, they are human beings that deserve the right to worship what ever and whom ever they want. They are persecuted like most faiths ( especially Christians ) in China.
voiceofsilenced 5 years ago
chinese are crazy why japanese didnt kill all chinese during WW2
anisdali 5 years ago
There are people in all lands that do bad. Chinese are not crazy. Sin brings more sin regardless who you are. You are no better than they are. It is very bad you say Japanese should have murdered them all. Where are your morals?
voiceofsilenced 5 years ago
ignorant people spout ignorant things, nothing we can do except try to correct them
stonedfenix 5 years ago
chinese are not crazy, u should watch our what u're saying. Chinese ppl are very sensitive and still bearing a grudge to japanese ppl, like my grandma. Ok the blame doesn't lie on chinese ppl but the chinese goverment. U should know this stuff first before saying something stupid!
fongsje 5 years ago
A Canadian human rights lawer and the former Canadian Secretary of State just got back from a 2 month investigation and published this report: http://www.investigation.redirectme.net/
There is solid evidence now.
CallForCompassion 5 years ago
Yeah, they investigated by hearing what others had said, not what they've seen. They were not granted a visa, which is not right either on the Chinese government. However, what's the point of allowing these people to go to china to inspect anyways if they are ready very bias towards to start with?
chili99cn 5 years ago
Regarding the allegations of Organ harvesting:
http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washf
ile-english&y=2006&m=April&x=20060416141157uhyggep0.5443231&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html
Falun Gong lies to gain public sympathy
dirtymentality 5 years ago
Your nickname tels it all :) dirtymentality...
Hope you will get betther soon!!!
Roboflux 5 years ago
Obviously it has been forgotten that the Communist Party in China was foundied on lies, blood, and greed. Any time they want to erradicate something they will put there all into it to decieve the Chinese in China and all the people of the world.
sagideon 5 years ago
From Wikipedia:
On April 14, 2006, US State Department released a statement [74] [75] that "found NO EVIDENCE that the site is being used for any function other than as a normal public hospital".
"this hospital--Liaoning Thrombus Medical Treatment Center--is not a state owned company but one partly invested by a Malaysian company"
dirtymentality 5 years ago
Fact is those places that were found clean had large amounts of time to clean those areas of evidence before anyone was given a chance to search them.In addition to that there has been large amounts of evidence collected already. Included phone calls between doctors in china and patients around the world where sentences like all of our organs come from falun gong practitioners.
sagideon 5 years ago