32 bit Ram answers.

[TheWebock]

@TheN64boy Curious. Why would you advertise your sexual preference on a computer video? Have you been able to pick up other gays that way?

[TheWebock]

I'm almost ashamed to ask this question; but in my eyes, the only stupid question is the unasked ones. I'm still trying to learn what you are teaching; but I need to get my rinky-dink computer moving faster than a coma without buying a new one at this time.

I am using a 32 bit Vista Home with 512 MB RAM. I want to get more memory; but am still unsure as to what I should do. I have two slots. Should I dump the 512 MB and go with 2-1GB or be cheap and only get 1GB and keep the 512MB?

[mrbit10]

@TheWebock well memory placement has a lot to do about how many channels you have, if your motherboard supports dual channel, than you fill both banks evenly, so 2 1 Gig. Also speed improvements come with hard drives, if you drive is over 70% full, get a larger one to avoid fragmentation problems

[TheWebock]

@mrbit10 Very helpful. I don't do any games or anything that requires a whole lot of memory as far as I understand it. I just do email and a whole bunch of Youtubes which used to take 4 times longer to load than the video was long ie a 15 min video took an hour plus the 15 min to watch and of course opening an closing time. Getting rid of McAffy and going with Avast helped a bunch. McAffy took 3 hrs to update and 18 hrs to scan on a good day; and it wanted to do it all every day.

[mrbit10]

@TheWebock once you have a larger drive you can clone over the old hard drive with many cloning software packages out there. if you do not wish to clone your system over or find it to difficult.  THEN with your existing drive, use your operating systems de-fragmentation tool (windows) or (file permissions with Mac) then try to move over as many files you can to the new drive keeping your old drive's utilization as low as possible.

[TheWebock]

@mrbit10 Understood. I think for as often as I need my pics and downloaded videos; I could just burn them on discs. I'm really not too interested in investing too much in an obsolete system. I'd rather save up for a lap top so that I am not chained to the same work station all of the time.

I so appreciate your help Sir. I am catching onto a lot of this stuff through your videos. I can't help but think that you have painted yourself in a corner with knowledge that can only be shared with a few.

[ReadWriteAccess]

Have you seen the "emeek77" video around? It's ether lost, or purposely 'Moved'

This video is classic ...

[cerreragt]

Can i use 64Bit vista on 4 GB ram..???or i have to get 8GB for 64Bit..?

[mrbit10]

yes you could run 64bit on 2 gigs, you simply will have more virtual ram and swapping going on vs using more native ram

[mcnuggetssmcnuggetss]

I'm confused.I want to upgrade to 4gb on a 32 bit operating machine,however i dont know how.I haven't added any memory to my PC which is a Windows vista but how do i see how much memory i have like gb? If a i add memory to already existing memory will the old memory disappear?

[mrbit10]

if you max out the banks of memory to 4 gigs the ram is there but the addressable area is not as in 32bit can only address at one time 4 gigs, so because of MMIO what is available to your Operating system is the remainder. No worries every OS uses virtual ram and thus whether it is 1 gig or 4 gig the system can only address 4 gig at 32 bit level if it is not there it creates virtual address if not it uses the native ram.

[piotrekno1]

hi

i have 32 bit windows vista

and i have 3 gb of ram on it but i never know that the max is 4gb for 32 bit

i buyed 2gb more of ram so it means i have 5gb all together

but vista will only read 4gb tell me if am right please thank you :)

[mrbit10]

correct 32 bit will only address up to 4 gigs of ram unless you enable PAE.

[Soman74899829]

can i have 8gb in 32 bit, but when i go to system deatails (vista) it say 64bit compatible can i have 8gb ram?

[narcoti]

you cannot have 8 gb in 32bit, only up to 4gb

[kaosum2]

You could have 8gb in 32bit, only 4 will be used/seen.

[wonka420]

are you on drugs?

[Iceedew]

I have a question do video cards like my 9800gtx+ take up some of the computers ram? And how much?

[mayers000]

yes, all items with ram take up the os's capabilty

i.e. i have a 1gb gtx280 if i had 4gb's of ram i will only have 3gb's of accessable ram running on the os (probs less)

[Iceedew]

Does that meen if i get 3 of my graphic cards i would loose 1.5 gb of ram? I have 4gb of ram now but task manager says i can use 2.8 gb.

[mayers000]

yeah there is other items that automatically take up ram, so if your got 3 512mb 9800gtx+ you would only be able to use 1.8gb's on a 32bit os

if you went that extreme i'd say you would need to buy a 64bit vista or xp

[mrbit10]

what you are asking is addressable area, not so much as ram or for that matter native ram as in the banks vs swappable or virtual, both addressable and available ram can be also virtualized. What is consumed with PCI I/O thus your vid cards is addressable area from the PCI bus to the CPU, many parts of the VRAM on the card are dedicated to the GPU.

[sunnz]

Hmm I can't see this video for some reason... help!!

[sunnz]

Ahh that's so weird, I swear that the video didn't load on YouTube, but work somewhere else... anyway it is just YouTube weirdness don't worry!!

[TheOnlyVenture]

just click the high quality button it should work :)

[gerv55]

Im awaiting the emeek response calling you a mac poser because you disagree with his dribblings.

[azaas]

same here...

[big46uk]

mrbit u know thats not the answer. its the computer fairy that dislike MS OS, so it take those memory away making you suffer even more for using such a poor OS.

[gr1moire2112]

Great explanation, glad someone did it... good job...

[mrbit10]

hey good to see you, how are things?

[gr1moire2112]

Hey things are good, busy as usual...

[mockstoday]

I have managed to get a good 64 bit four core setup spread over 2 cpu's also I have 1 gig of RAM. I used Xubuntu 8.10 it is really fast and I can get all my programs most of them are open. The bad thing is that not all Debian binarys are 64 bit so sometimes I have to compile. Could Debian make kinda like what Apple did where you can get Power PC data and Intel Data on the same Binary?

[mrbit10]

well you would have to compile for both anyway, doesn't Debian run on PowerPC or no? I am not sure if it does, regardless it could be done, but keep in mind RISC binaries are not always the same across the board, lot's of compiling and searching for common share points.

[mockstoday]

I am talking about the .deb files that can be used to install software into Debian when I browse the website finding all the dependency's I an be certain the will be Intel x86 i386 will be there not sure about the amd64 and sometimes there will be Power PC if Debian but together the x86 32 and the x86 64 together. I don't know about RISC and power that architecture is kinda dead in the world of end user operating systems.

[mrbit10]

Ah, I misunderstood, you mean to combine 32 and 64 then in a joint binary???

[mockstoday]

yes Debian run's on nearly any architecture so do the binary's what I was thinking was putting the 32bit data and the 64bit data so it satisfies people who use x86!

[MacUndergroundPart2]

I would love to see emeek's reply to this. I doubt he will though. I think he knows better than to call you a 'mac poser' for going against the mighty emeek.

I know you are not trying to start shit or anything, but it is good to see that there are mac users who can see through his bullshit and who will call him out on it.

[blacksteel25]

A few benchmarks I've seen with Vista 64bit having 4-8GB available it actually helps with performance. I know that Windows 32bit has the capability to handle more than 4GB, but I wonder if it gains in performance like a 64bit Windows would be able to do it.

[mrbit10]

we actually cannot physically yet fulfill a full 1 to 1 with physical on 64bit.

[omgitspractice]

cool vid m8. Keep em coming. Theyre really intressting.