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  • Small critiques but might be worth sharing Rape and pedophilia have very little to do with sexuality. Sexual assault is mostly about power. Also the study you covered. Its not 100% accurate. There is something there for sure but if you look up the study there are false positive readings which rule out the results. The most homophobic people are going to respond to gay porn and their anxiety or disgust can lead to penile stimulation. Its not necessarily a sexual response though. good video <3

  • @Izzabella85 I'm sorry, but pedophilia != rape. Please educate yourself.

  • @Nyocurio Sexual assault is not based strictly on sexuality. A male pedophile that molests boys is not necessarily gay is an example. Or men that rape or have sex with other men in prison, military, as part of harassment are not necessarily gay. That is what I am saying since some folks like to throw in gay men with pedophiles which is why I was mentioning that. What do you mean educate myself? What do you recommend? I am always willing to learn more. Thanks

  • @Izzabella85 I was trying to say that pedophilia is merely the sexual orientation of a person and does not implicate child molestation. It feels like these two terms are often falsely used as synonyms in the media.

  • love it when me, being straight, and my friends, being straight, hold hands just to be dorky friends and people go "lololol look at those gay girls durr hurr so gay". i also appreciate it when my friend comes back with yelling at them, "YOURE SO BEAUTIFUL! I WANT TO HAVE LESBIAN SEX WITH YOU! BE MY GIRLFRIEND!"

    ah, homophobic people. when will you learn that people can be FRIENDS with people of the same gender?

  • I love flirting with homophobic people. It makes me giggle so much to see them go "Airngioyqwbfyoeqvo DON'T INFECT ME AAAAH! BURN DEMON BURN".

    Oh, stupid people <3

  • @sn9696 1500 animal species DO have gay tendencies dumbass! When they are showing dominance they stand (some fight) over the other as it lays flat on its belly or back! God you are stupid! I was (am) raised with animals so I DO know what I am talking about! And yes I am a lesbian and proud! And if you don't like gays then why are you even watching this?! Oh yeah! Bc secretly you are!

  • @sn9696 I know someone with a female dog that humps my female dog. The funny thing is the owners are lesbians and so am I. But they don't watch what we do. it's nature. Things have sex. Animals don't give a shit what gender you are. They will fuck you.

  • @iBePandaBear ,their not doing it for sexual reason it's to show dominance !

  • I'm gay, and I have to say my favorite "comeback" is "Suck my dick, faggot."

  • @sn9696 "I keep hearing about animals being gay but have never seen this in my life." You're a biologist working in the wild studying animals all day?

    Your other comments answer themselves. Of course it's sexual repression. If someone is brought up to believe that homosexuality is a sin and happens to be BORN GAY, they're going to be more likely to take up the priestly duties as they're not interested in getting a wife. Combine that with the power trip that priests have and you have a problem.

  • The butt is meant for one thing,to get rid of toxic waste,you can even get health problems by sticking things up there which the system never seems to mention!

  • @sn9696 Your hand was made for one thing, swinging from tree to tree. To use your hand for anything else is UNNATURAL! Your shoulder was made for one thing, to move your arm, to have someone massage your shoulders is UNNATURAL!

    The system "never seems to mention that you can even get health problems by sticking things up there". You seriously need to think things through before posting as you clearly haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about & have demonstrated your own homophobia.

  • And why do so many gays have small curved pennis's? Their must be something to this..

  • @sn9696 That's an absurd and baseless statement. Is there a study published on this or are you checking for this yourself?

  • @sn9696 You must be talking about white people cause blacks don't have that problem.

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  • @sprookafook sorry your a faggot.

  • @shaylinmonk huge cock is so scrumpteous, sorry your cock doesnt do it for girls or guys, that is what bothers you and it wont go away weaklin.

  • @shaylinmonk at the end of the day you cant get girls cause your hung to small, and gay man are all size queens so your gay dreams are also im sorry not going to pan out for u. try youngboys is my advice, they wont be happy with a little cock but they will except it untill they finda bigger one to play with, enjoy your 5 inch thrill mate is what i say, so what if yur hung like a thumball n queer.

  • i like homophobic insults, i luv huge cock, sexi women, and ladyboys , i luv sucking a guys huge cock esp if he has a hot girlfriend, i also like pounding my ladyboy cunts , i esp like pretending to be an angel to young sweet girls and kissing them so slow and impregnating them and im not a fruitiarian

  • @sprookafook wtf?! Lol...

  • That's interesting. As a woman, I've been attracted to other women but I'm mostly attracted to men. I'm also more visual than most women. Maybe that's why. Anyway, I worked with a "straight" woman who I thought might be gay precisely because of her reaction to pictures of a gay parade that someone else had brought to work. She was disgusted and refused to even look at them. That's what sent up a flag in my mind. It was a parade.. not a porno for crying out loud.

  • as a Gay stand-up I can offer MY favorite comeback. when out of the darkness @ the back of the bar someone yells "FAG!" I give an exaperated gasp and say "can you believe that? ..suck ONE dick & look what they start sayin about ya!"

  • Great!

    The Adams-Wright U of Georgia study was elegant and predictable. Pointing out the control group results - heterosexual men exhibiting no homophobia showed little to no arousal - would provide nice contrast. Unless I missed it.

    Also, it's useful to limit 'absolute' words to preserve integrity. The disparity between measured results and denial was a robust 80%, not 100%. Little in science is 100%. The evidence is just as solid.

    The bottom line: "Yes, haters, you doth protest too much".

  • If you were an apple, and I were Eve.....I'd pick you from the tree ;-)

  • Awwwwww Snap! No he didn't! What an awesome comeback!

    Let me summarize 9 1/2 minutes of collegese for all you impatient people out there. ahem.

    "no YOU"RE gay!"

  • @redrounin Lol, that is an accurate summary, yes.

  • Interestingly enough I saw that study on a documentary about sexuality on a cable channel. I found that interesting as well. People just need to be less hateful. Those type of christians are not really trully being christ-like anyway. Hate ends up shortening you life anyway by take too much energy.

  • Rifuckingintheassdiculous! terrible, I hope this isn't you Nancy's spokesperson!

  • @productioncorp Who's Nancy?

  • My roommate is gay, my friends are gay. But this is a stupid video. sorry.

  • @chongsboy Cool story bro.

  • @99mrpeacemaker I don't believe there is a God. I would like you to prove it to me. Real evidence. I would like to point out the Bible is NOT real evidence. It was not written BY God. As any theology teacher will tell you, the Bible is not a book of science, and it is not a book of history.

  • I Only saw half of this,,,,,,Come on kid get to the point!!!! I ain't got ALL DAY for ya,,,,Sorry.

  • @fh346 If you suffer from ADD we can set up a phone consult and I can recommend dietary and lifestyle changes that will allow you enough patience to watch 9 and a half minutes of video.

  • A number of people seem to be questioning the relationship between societies with robust protection for minorities of all kinds, including on the basis of sexual orientation, and those who also enjoy good health, educational attainment and high levels of general well being.

    A simple exercise: run a correlation between nations with strong civil rights records for people who are attracted to those of the same or both sexes and those who finish at the top of the UN 'best places to live' list.

  • This video is very vague. You seem to like to hear your own voice, get to the point and stop trying to use more words than you need. Also, try and support your arguments with evidence like statistics or studies, anything would be better than just taking your word for it.

  • @MRLAGAP That's funny because the majority of people who have watched this completely got it! Most of the video is philosophical, so it's not something you have to reference. For the random facts like bats having the highest rates of homosexuality, a quick google search will confirm it. You don't need references for such common knowledge. When I refer to the study in the MIDDLE of the vid (did you even make it that far?! Are you do ADD that you can't watch to 4 minutes in?) I give the link.

  • @99mrpeacemaker well once I went to Heaven, I guess I would ask god why he made me gay

  • Sorry but this isnt really relevant to the video but i think its tight that you actually reply to a lot of comments... Im going to suscribe now

  • @SeaniePHaggerty Cool!

  • Just like homosexual men seem to want too much sex so do HETERO men. I am cool with two men (souls) falling in love and living a monogamous lifestyle but most don't. That shit grosses me out! But I don't go around hating them for it. The worlds approach to conflict solution, especially the "gay topic", is redundantly ineffective. So.... shut the fuck up until YOU HATERS can say something intelligent. Peace-Love-Happiness

  • Homosexuality is evil, period. You can say all you want and push your propaganda but God will judge us all... What are you going to say then?...

  • @99mrpeacemaker Please do explain how a heterosexual male such as myself would be pushing propaganda for a cause that has little impact on my own life. The reason I even made this video was because of how infantile and ridiculous it is to use terms like 'gay' or 'homo' as insults, which virtually anyone who makes video online get's called at some point.

    Your imagination will be the only thing judging you :) Other people have their own imagination and your belief doesn't overarch onto theirs.

  • @99mrpeacemaker Says a magical book? Oh, okay! :D Now getting back to reality, what is truly evil, sir, is the hell people like you put gays through every day in the name of a badly thought-up god. Oh, and nice screenname. Hilariously ironic. ;)

  • @99mrpeacemaker First of all, there is very little in the bible to suggest that Jesus ever thought homosexuality was a sin. During the time period when he was alive, homosexual relationships were commonplace. Even if there was some passage to suggest this, you cannot take the bible for face value. It is contradictory of itself in some places, and contains information we now know to be false (creationism). Secondly, homosexuality is naturally occurring. It is seen in hundreds of animal species

  • @futtgoredo If your god hated homosexuals why would he create them? Third of all, why should you judge. If what you are saying is true, god will judge, so you can shut the fuck up and worry about living your own life. And lastly, god is most likely not real (I can debate you if you really want me to), so there is no use propagating hate messages.

  • @99mrpeacemaker You seem to feel you are speaking for God. You will have to answer to God for such behavior. What will you tell your Creator?

  • @99mrpeacemaker Your God takes it up the asshole.

  • @1ElectroDan Wow, you are so full of hatred to say something like that. Believe it or not, I am trying to help you by warning you. I would not wish eternity in hell upon anybody. The whole point of this life is to save your soul. May God forgive you and help you all.. Just because you don't believe in heaven and hell, doesn't mean you will avoid them. God loves us all. Hate the sin, not the sinner..

  • @99mrpeacemaker God created all man equal. What do you have to say about that. If your so faithful, practice what you preach. Love all equally.

  • @99mrpeacemaker There is no god you idiot!

  • @99mrpeacemaker The amount of peace you carry with you really fits your nickname. Ahum :/

  • @99mrpeacemaker

    You made a lot of mean-spirited unsupported assertions.

    By the language and how you use it, I'm guessing you identify as christian? Follower of Jesus...right? How could all that poppycock judgement and threats you wrote be considered sharing love? I thought Jesus said to love everyone. What

  • 9 minutes. Ouch. Couldn't do it. Nonetheless, I share my favorite comeback line, which is, "Would you like to get fucked in the ass?" Not exactly disarming, but gets right to the heart of the issue.

  • If it be that you wish to research homosexual behavior and the lifestyle look at some of the posts that gay's put on craigslist, the pictures and comments alone are immoral and sickening and no different than pornography and you want to call people homophobic because

    they don't like to be around this type of a person,from the sound of it sir it seems to me that you have spent alot of your time trying to be politically correct.

    You can also study homosexuality in rest stops........

  • @cecil605 OH, so your telling me that there are not sluts who are heterosexual?? Im sorry but im more inclined to see hetero sluts at the club, walking down the street, selling themselves into prostituion. While mean time you could go to a high class gathering such as a art gallery, a theatre, the opera and see some pritty high class people who happen to be homosexual. dumbass.

  • @cecil605 I think you like to take it up the bum, but secretly. You're gonna burn in HELL!

  • To the poster: you need citations and evidence for your early statements on areas of the world being healthier because they are 'the most tolerant.' Not having proof just makes this an opinion, whereas the inclusion of evidence/proof makes it a fact. Your statement is currently not a fact. Specific examples with their relevant citations, please. If you are going to educate, which certainly seems your cause in this video, you need to elicit where you get your 'facts' from responsibly.

  • @redcard0 If you took the time to follow my channel you'd hear me talk about these areas of the world frequently. I make these videos for regular viewers first and foremost. They are the 4 places listed in the book The Blue Zones as wel as Ikaria in Greece, Vilcabamba in Ecuador and the Georgian region of Russia by the Caucasus mountains.

  • @berwynk HOCD or ego-dystonic sexual orientation perhaps?

  • @vvebsta Both are interesting and for me form an intersection of psychology and the much maligned sociology.

  • @berwynk I can't tell you how much I appreciate you taking the time to indulge me without any judgement or prejudice. It is hard to find on youtube. I wish people could read the reply you sent me via personal message. Definitely some great discussion and allot to go over. I'll still be reading up on this topic but I wanted to say I appreciate your time!

  • @vvebsta Hey. No problem. It's always good to talk - intelligently at least!

  • @berwynk Left-handed comparison aside, are there any existing psychological disorders that we can compare to homosexuality so we can see how they differ?

  • @vvebsta The most obvious would be the sexual psychological disorders; however, I feel that this can often serve to occlude rather than enlighten the issue. Perhaps body dysmorphia would be a more productive point of comparison?

  • @berwynk Being left handed myself, I was open to the possibility that perhaps being left-handed is a psychological disorder, but it does not have a great enough impact on my life. If I suddenly lost my left hand in an accident, I could function completely fine without it. Humans are very resilient.

  • @berwynk I have not heard or seen evidence to suggest emotional or psychological distress to retraining to be right-handed although I imagine there is a steep learning curve because it is something you were taught at an early age and so relearning it after your set in your ways would be a challenge. Hence the phrase you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

  • @vvebsta There's quite a lot of stuff out there - including both clinical research and personal testimony, a quick search should bring up plenty.

  • @berwynk I don't think we can equate being gay to being left handed. Writing or throwing a ball are man-made devices. I've heard many stories from elders who say they were forced into learning to write with their right hand at an early age because it was "correct" and there is no negative impact on the individual. They just simply learned to adapt.

  • @vvebsta Good point - it is the primary use of the left hand for actions that do not involve man made devices, such as feeding that would make it appear to be more an innate than a learnt action. Likewise, the appearance of left-limbed behaviour, observable, particularly though not exclusively in higher primates, would suggest that this behavioural difference - like sexual orientation - is common to many species.

  • You guys are so kind. Hugs & kisses! Mwah.

  • @theonlylocust wow your username is apt as fuck.

  • homosexualism is sickness, because is not natural a man who to put his penis into other man ass, and is no natural two woman that cannot have babys, homosexualism is a biological and/or psichological sickness, sometimes people born that way and sometimes not, so they need help because is not normal and healthy that behaviour

  • @theonlylocust you mispelled rot

  • ''fags rott in hell'' Nice one theonlylocust. Even though I am gay, I'm literally laughing my ass off to how ignorant this comment is. Anyways, NO ONE REPLY TO HIS COMMENT. You're just going to be feeding the no life troll.

  • @TonyLovesCTFxC you'll born into hell, god and jesus does not like homosexuals and they'll send them to the lake of fire with the devil and them demons to suffer the whole eternity

  • @underholegrunge In the bible doesn't it say that god made us in his image? If that is true then why would he hate somebody he created. :I

  • @Duskeh11 Religious folks (and I speak as one brought up in the community for decades) dislike the behavior, not necessarily the person. The person is always capable of redemption. The behavior is not.

  • @redcard0 Well you know, I dont like your behavior, and my sexual behavior is none of your bussiness and you have no right to judge it.

  • @berwynk Cos left-handers are generally taught to use right hand for some jobs and people with an aptitude for athletic sport aren't going to mug books unless they're good at that too. they're generally segregated and focus on what they're good at or forced into mainstream.

  • @mohammadbanibaker It’s so “unnatural” that your cult has set up clinics to repress these apparently invisible urges.

  • @mohammadbanibaker Yeah, people choose to take on a sexual preference that will lead to extreme hazing.

    Explain what's immoral about same sex relations. Don't point to the bible; think for yourself, and explain how it effects you.

  • Gaetan Dugas, a Canadian flight assistant, brought AIDS the USA The first forty persons among the first few hundred infected with AIDS in the United States were linked together by sexual contact, self-reported or reported by “close companions,”. Mr. Dugas infected the persons who reported having sex with him, they infected the persons who reported having sex with them, and so on.

  • Religious morals and standards being shoehorned into lawbooks sickens me. And the self righteous gays who act like they are being held at Auschwitz in the face of real intolerance. The ones if you not completely on board and accepting of them you are a closet homophobe bigot. Just as bad as the ones they oppose. To hell with both sides of this argument to each his own.

  • Tolerance and acceptance are 2 different things. People dont have to accept shit about other peoples life styles but we do tolerate. No one for the most part is out physically stopping gays or anything they do really. Harsh words on both sides is about as far as it goes. I dislike all of you you haha. The anti gay religious crusaders because i hate when bible thumpers feel as though they can interfere with other peoples lives cause they have some sort of divine right or doing gods work.

  • Men and women were created different for a reason...

  • @chiefreak yeah, because a beard rubbing on your berries is much nicer!

  • you should be a teacher, you lecture well my friend.

  • I have no problem with homosexuals, but I don't think they should adopt children. It must be hard for a little kid to explain to his first grade friend why he has 2 dads instead of 1

  • @scbman So little Jimmy can't be adopted by two loving fathers or mothers because he might have an awkward five minute conversation with a kid? Okay then...

  • @scbman If the other little kids parents weren't ignorant and raised their children with understanding, they wouldn't need explanation in the first place. Idiot.

  • @scbman Since when do first grade kids have any concept of sex? Kids learn general gender stereotypes, what does this have to do with sex? I don't know many 1st grade kids that are going to respond to "Why do you have a mommy and a daddy?" with "Because their anatomy physically fit each other" Plenty of kids could use a home and you would deny them this because of something that in time they will understand and accept?

  • Post 2. No ill in that? Well there are the unplanned pregnancies. But they have an answer for that. Sacrifice, human, unborn. Enough said? No, the priests of the sacrifice get a pretty penny for their work.

    Enough so, apparently, the Gov. needs to subsidize the practice.

    Anyone knows that it's more fun to drink if the booze is free.

    There is another big ill from their behavior. Actually many illnesses. And medical costs. I bet they love Obamacare. Single payer even more. Expensive Neighborhood

  • What happened to qqxxttmm? I wanted to remind him about "Love thy neighbor as thyself." But the terms need some clarification. Love worketh no ill to his neighbor, love therefore is the fulfilling of the law. Good basis for society.

    Unfortunately, love is a many slandered term. Especially by the hedonists, also called Jezebels in Revelations. Babylonian is their mother tongue in any language. Named for their mother, Mystery. Confusion is their game. "Free love" is their term for promiscuity.

  • @earsonsounds He got tired of listening to you preach.

  • @JIM95ish Cute. Why did he take his comment with him. The thing about smacking you in the face.

  • @earsonsounds Oh that was for me now was it! Well then another bigot ran away from a argument.

  • @JIM95ish Sorry, I thought you were one of those who would be really upset by my preaching.

    Actually, I think he ran away because a reply to stupidity looks silly when the stupidity isn't there for examination. I wrote something about confusion being the game.

  • @earsonsounds I don't mind what you preach I just don't tolerate intolerance

  • @JIM95ish

    Broad is the way and wide is the gate that leads to destruction. Is that o.k. with you?

  • @earsonsounds Sure that will pass.

  • @JIM95ish

    Glad to hear it. For whoever happens to read this. It's from Matthew 7:13. "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen." Rev 22:21. 'night.

  • @earsonsounds " with you all ". Was JC a southener?

  • @iamsasquatch1

    Really? 1. The writer was John. 2. It's been translated. 3. Southern

    dialect would be "y'all." What do you expect? "youes guys?" Or,

    likeyouknow, "peeps?" Whateverrr. How much good does it do to strain at a

    gnat. Never mind.

  • @qqxxttmm Sounds like we have a ringer here. In World War 2 German troops dressed up as Polish troops and attacked Germany. This gave the Germans an excuse to attack Poland. P. Have you ever noticed that when "closet" gays "Bash" gays it usually makes the basher, and those associated, (usually by conflation), with them, look rotten. P. However, if they happen to get caught, that is never the motive. It's always some tear jerker reason. Self hatred, a fixation, money. Anything but THAT.

  • @SecretsOfLongevity I like the message of this video. I think you should look over it and write it down so you can revideo it to make it flow better so that more people will watch it all the way though. People who disagree with you will be more prone to watch it if it is in a more easy to watch format.

    I appreciate your efforts. You're a good man.

  • @MarkyRita I agree with this, although I don't quite believe in good/bad, lol

    I think he's a balanced, logical, open minded and respectful person tho

    And the video would be better with the music/talking transition remastered, and the "ehh" parts off,

    Because as it is now, the only people who'll look all the way are the people already agreeing with the opinion. It's too long and complex for people opposed to this idea to actually watch it

  • Another common homophobic "argument" : It's Against Nature!

    Natural :

    - Homosexuality's been observed in several cultures, forever and even among several animal species.

    - War is in human's nature. We can't help ourselves but fight all the time.

    Not Natural :

    - Humans flying. I see no one rising against planes?

    - Pastic never degrades but I dont see many people being concerned about their use of it

    "nature" & "morality" arent synonym, even if it was true that homosexuality is against nature

  • I really wish I could find the scientific study that was done showing that Gay men actually have something different in their brain. I read it once a few years back in a science journal and haven't been able to find it on the internet.We live in a "free" country and yet people want to chose who can be free.And the Bible standpoint doesn't fly with me.....why can you have multiple wives (Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon) but a gay woman can't have one?

  • Is it possible to offer any criticism of the "gay" lifestyle without being called a homophobe? If so, give some examples.

  • @earsonsounds I"m starting to think not. They want you to accept their life style, and it's not right to expect everyone to accept every thing about you. Not just gays, there are other life styles out there I don't think are right. Do I treat people unfairly? No I don't. In other words, it's not my issue, so stop saying I'm a homophobe, and it's childish to call names, if I say "I don't think being gay is cool". It's fine if you are, just don't bring me into it.

  • @earsonsounds Also, they claim a phobia, because supposedly we are afraid that will have some affect on our lives. Well let me tell you, I'd rather not talk about the subject of two guys going at it, but it's all over the place. Young relatives in my family had to learn, way to early in my opinion, about two guys going off together, and two women going off together. That has an affect. Nothing to do with fear, just a fact. You do have an affect on us by your constant bitching and moaning.

  • @wantsavictory Well too bad your in the argument now by coming and watching this. Why else would you watch this if you didn't want to start an argument?

  • @JIM95ish And why are you here?

  • @wantsavictory

    Sorry, I was distracted. The general reaction to criticism, everywhere, is what I call "Denial and Revile".

    Matthew 7:6 says it better.

    If you want a Victory, and Peace, that's the place to go. Seek and ye shall find and such.

    Peace with God anyway. Not so much with the world. 'night

  • @earsonsounds Lifetstyle is different then orientation. You can be against reckless promiscuity if that's the part of the often publicized side of how SOME gay people choose to act w/o being against their orientation. If you're truly against their orientation then there is no word for it besides homophobia. Someone's orientation has no effect on your life unless you fear it. That's something the raging homophobe in the comments above ^ who I had to block and delete comments from, doesn't get.

  • I love how Christians think that they created marriage... So adorable.

    Personally my favorite response to homophobes is "Where you not hugged enough as a child?"

  • @ziggy702

    im not gay but i think, no better, i know tat all people were made by the same god meaing eveybody has the same rights and the liberty to there own fucken choices so who the fuck are you to tell a creation from god tat you think what they are is wrong. So fuck you and your opinions cuz no one gives a fuck!!!

  • im str8 and i believe if anyone has the right to get married it should be gay men and lesbian women because they have to fight and put up with homophobic crap everyday of their lives just to be able to love someone freely. if you dont agree i dont fuckin care. spare me your so called "morals and values" and fuck your religion.

  • I don't like gays.

  • I don't think there should be homosexual marriage. They should be able to have an equivalent, but it shouldn't be called marriage as marriage is more of a religious thing, and the bible does say a man should not lie with another man. By the way, I'm fine with gay people. i have several gay friends, one of which is actually catholic and he doesn't believe gay people should be allowed to marry. That NCBI study is very interesting, just goes to show that many homophobes may be gay themselves.

  • @GalenConnell Fool. The Bible also says its ok to own and beat slaves that belong to you and that shellfish is an abomination before God. Educate yourself, but kindly leave God and Jesus out of the equation.

  • @ziggy702 Not only did no one ask you to state your opinion, but also what you are spreading is 100% incorrect. Gay people deserve love and happiness just as much as anyone else. It will raise no hell. How many times in your life have you been negatively effected by gays? Think. Keep thinking. None? That's so weird that you've never been negatively effected considering how much hell gay people raise. Ooooh, right! They raise no hell. It's people like YOU who do. You should be ashamed of yourself

  • Interesting video. Would you consider being gay as voluntary or involuntary?

    If it is voluntary then it is simply a choice like being vegan or vegetarian.

    If it is considered involuntary, would it not classify as a simple psychological disorder? Notably the definition of a p.d. rules out symptoms that occur due to particular events.

    Perhaps people get too hung up on the morality of it all and don't consider that maybe it is just a natural irregularity which is why it is seen in many animals.

  • @vvebsta Why would having an involuntary sexual attraction for someone of the same or both sexes qualify as a psychological disorder any more than other forms of human diversity such as primary use of the left hand for writing or an aptitude for athletic sport?

  • @berwynk I'm still learning but the way I understand a psychological disorder is it's a persistent behavioral pattern that can affect multiple areas of your life. I think writing with your left hand or loving orange shirts doesn't qualify because you can choose not to do it and could live just fine without. But if you couldn't function without orange shirts or it started affecting your day to day decisions then I'd say it would fall into a psych disorder. I'm trying not to be offensive. Sorry.

  • @berwynk Hey. No offence taken. A few points though. I would argue that for a disposition, behaviour or characteristic to qualify as a disorder, psychological or otherwise, it should negatively impact on the individual rather than merely affecting them in a way which, subject to their external environment, is broadly neutral to their well being. The example for left handed predisposition is specifically chosen because these individuals to not exercise choice and cannot change voluntarily.

  • @berwynk ...more over, there have been attempts throughout history to re-educate left-handed individuals overwhelmingly with negative impacts on them educationally, emotionally and psychologically. The simple fact is that the pre-disposition to left-handedness is no more an innate disorder that different sexuality. The damage caused to the individual is caused by living in a right-handed world e.g. scissors that don't fit, door handles that are difficult to open. This and the reactions of others

  • @berwynk .... It's a particularly interesting comparison as, whilst we today regard the had a person writes with as a natural variance this wasn't always the case. Indeed, far from the case, in fact our word sinister comes from the Latin sinestre simply meaning left.

    Finally, people who find others of the same sex or both attractive, are of course liable to be subject to psychological disorders, as is the whole population. Historically the proportion of this group represented amongst those....

  • @berwynk I think what your pointing out here in the top paragraph is what is socially acceptable and it is true that society continuously shapes its perspective on what is accepted in the culture, but what i'm trying to learn is whether homosexuality meets the criteria of a psychological disorder regardless of its acceptance (i know even saying the phrase "psychological disorder" has a negative connotation to allot of people)

  • @berwynk ... experiencing psychological distress has been very high in comparison with the general population. This is at least in part to do with the fact that surveys of 'homosexuals' and 'bisexuals' tended to concentrate on those presenting themselves to medical practitioners as being unwell. As such many of these surveys say little more than that those in a Doctor's surgery are more unlikely to be ill than the rest of the population. Finally, finally, the same high levels of apparent...

  • @berwynk ...pathology were to be found amongst people with a left-handed predisposition. However, as societal attitudes have changed and attempts at re-eduaction have declined if not disappeared (at least outside of some traditional/literalist religious communities such as Islam as practised in parts of Iran) so the over-presentation of psychological within this community has declined and disappeared.

    Hope this is all food for thought - it's not meant as a lecture simply a stimulous for debate

  • @berwynk Sorry few typos in the splurge.. particularly should read that 'people in a doctor's surgery are more likely to be ill than the general population'. There, it is at least consistent...

  • @berwynk Just read all of your posts. Good points, very accurate to :)

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  • all I can say is... I gave it a thumbs up. I have a gay friend...

    And, no one should be talking about how gays are sinners, because homosexuality came before Christianity...

  • @ProdogeeLinks homosexuality didnt come before christianity its a biological response to overpopulation of a species as the human population gets higher so will the amount of gays and homosexual behavior is also found in other animals with overpopulation besides humans at the time the bible was written there wasnt nearly as many people so people were only gay to get some and they didnt love each other and the bible said that was wrong also the bible was written before christianity

  • @renesmecullen212 Okay, first off, YOU sir/maam, need to learn how to use punctuation. I could hardly understand you!! Second, you need to pay more attention in school. The ancient Greek warriors were homosexual. They only married woman to have children to POPULATE. It had nothing to do with overpopulaton. Most men didnt love woman in that society, they loved men. It was in their beliefe that sleeping with a woman weakend you. And back then, Christianity wasn't fully developed.

  • @ProdogeeLinks Yeah, I can tell you couldn't understand, but I had to take out punctuation because YouTube is stupid and it would only let me write so many letters =( trust me, it annoyed me too. And I know, thats what i said, christianity has nothing to do with the Old Testament! Anyway, believe it or not, I didn't mean to start an arguement (yeah, I know, epic fail there) But whatever. Hey, there's an apostrophe in "ma'am" it stands for 'madam'.. XD

  • @ProdogeeLinks but I'm glad you support gays =) I'm a liberal christian but people always think i must be homophobic because i go to church lol but gay people are awesome

  • @ziggy702 No one is saying that anyone or everyone should be gay?! No one's trying to spread it, it already exists. What people want is acceptance for them.

  • @SecretsOfLongevity I love the way you talk... Love... The way you can explain yourself, so intellectually, is just, wonderful.

    I'm in love with the way you talk. :]

  • @SecretsOfLongevity And the way you said "silly" at the end, was adorable...Just saying:)

  • @ziggy702 What kind of hell will it raise? Look at all the infidelity going on in marriage now. You act as if heterosexual marriage is perfect now, that no one is cheating on the other, and that everything is just fantastic......Do u think that if gay marriage is legalized that suddenly heterosexual marriages will just shatter, as if they aren't already. I mean, look at the divorce rate. I guess it's just easier to blame gays for the heterosexual divorce rate?

  • @ziggy702 You act like it is a choice, like picking a shirt or shoes to wear. Trying to spread what? I'm gay, and I promise I don't spread anything, at least not hatred like I see so many do. The religion I follow loves everyone, because we are all one world, one people, one race- Human. Stop perpetuating this division, accept people for their color, their faith, their lifestyle. Because YOU would want others to accept you.

  • @ziggy702 NOBODY can just choose to be gay or not? It is a SCIENTIFIC FACT that a person is either BORN gay or BORN straight. Nobody can change who they are. What morals and values? Are they not people? Are they not human beings that have feelings just like you and I? They have morals and values to, but according to you, must be ALL wrong just because they are gay? Check yourself before you reck yourself.

  • @ziggy702 Being gay is not a choice...who in their right mind would choose to be subjected to such bigotry from persons like yourself, homophobia, which is what you have is a choice

  • @ziggy702 Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one. Face it people, a lot of ignorant fools need a "boogeyman" to keep them frightened enough so they don't focus on the REAL problems in the world. Like how 400 families have over 90% of the wealth in America. What would you folks actually do if you didn't have gay people to hate?

  • @ziggy702 Maybe you should stop spreading your heterosexuality everywhere. Heterosexual people should just continue to get married and divorced at a rate of 50% and pretend that they are a "model" for happy and successful relationships and moral values.

    Your comment is ridiculous.

  • @1ElectroDan Excellent response. I too am tired of the heterosexual community rubbing their sexuality in our faces ever day on tv too - kissing and god knows what, it's disgusting.

  • @ziggy702 First: Before you go and a post a comment, get informed. Second: Being gay is not a disease that can be "spread". If you are born with blue skin and its just a genetic thing, that means you are not a walking contagious disease, you just are blue. The same concept is for people that are gay: you can be "oh look that person is gay I won't get near them because I will catch 'gay'." No it does not work like that. Again, IT IS NOT A DISEASE OR VIRUS, it is the the way a person is.

  • * you can't be

  • @ziggy702 you "don't think that anyone should be gay." Hmm. Last I checked, being gay is not a choice. If it was, I think that there would be very few homosexuals in the world. CHOOSING to be gay would be incredibly stupid because of all of the discrimination and criticism that gays receive for their sexual orientation. It still confuses me why people think that anyone would choose to be a homosexual. And it is not being spread; people are simply striving for acceptance.

  • @jaceyc15 Well said! People often ask me why my sister "Chose" to be gay. I like to sarcastically respond with "She woke up one day and said 'I want to be hated, ridiculed, and not have any of the rights other people have....I'm gonna be gay!" Depending on the person they laugh or look at me confused, usually the latter.

  • @cobwebrae well, its clearly a choice, so there should be no confusion

  • @ziggy702 stop lying to yourself and live in your truth.  I just made a video about homosexuality and spirituality. Check it out. Don't worry no one has to know you watch it.

  • People probably do not have the choice to be gay - recent studies indicate a "gay gene." Aside from that, there is no logical morals/values that are against someone being gay. It's almost like saying that I think you're immoral because you were born with a certain shaped nose. (This is, of course, leaving religion out of the "Logical moral values" as I'm defining "Logical" as being supported by considerable evidence / studies.)

  • @chilledkirby The studies on that are not confirmed and still have muc h research to be done. I personally don't believe in them.

  • @JIM95ish Well, the studies haven't PROVEN the gene, but I was merely showing that the evidence leans heavily that way. (Hence, "probably"). Either way, I have never seen a sound argument for why homosexuality is immoral.

  • @chilledkirby You took that the wrong way I'm agreeing with you on the immoral argument I just said the evidence isn't that heavy for the gene study.