wtf??? there werent 15,000 dealdy terriorist attcks.. who told u tht... o let me guess the most unrealible news media in the world CNN,FOX etc. ya... and why r we in this war.... o ya cuz of oil not terriorism
Just imagine, for sake of argument, that we wage war on Israel, can someone tell me there wouldn't be Jewish terrorism in this country??
Actually, we don't have to hypothesize; Jewish terrorism was extremely active against Great Britain during the British mandate on Palestine because they felt England was trying to slow down the Jewish migration to Palestine.
I already gave you an example. and no, I was not picking on Jews; my point was that it is only logical to see certain elements of a race or ethnicity showing contempt and anger when you wage wars on their nations. and for the record, jewish terrorists have killed other jews in the past. look up the blowing up of the King David hotel in Jerusalem
my dear friend, I suppose Jews who fought the Nazis in the Warsaw ghettos were also called terrorists by the German propaganda at the time. As someone who read history carefully, I know only too well that things are not so black and white. many of what you might call terrorist attacks against, say Israel, could be legitimate self-defense acts including the resistance in South Lebanon by Hezbollah and in the Occupied Territories by Hamas.
Christians murdered millions upon millions of heathen indigenous peoples, it was worse than what the Nazis did to the Jews...all organized religion needs to go off this fucking earth...the US government has many times backed Islamic extremists for their own goals and political gain
so taxpayers paid for their upkeep for no reason? so any muslim can just sign up for the military, get all the privileges of being in the military, and then decide to "opt out" when it comes time for a war?
sorry. not buying it. they should be screened at the beginning.
What a mature human being you are. You criticize multiculturalism but you can't speak proper English. You mean "its", not the contraption "it's". Go to school.
So you're saying we should prevent certain religions in our military?
Oh wait, I just noticed you hate Jews too. You an antisemitic asshole, and people like you are impossible to reason with because you have you heads stuck up your xenophobic asses.
Oh wow, so the KKK are made up of white people. I guess we better cut off white people from joining the police force as they "MIGHT" discriminate and pull another Rodney King.
So since Liberalism is the cause of Muslim fanatics. Whats the cause of white christian fanatics? Conservative's do nothing but promote hate. Somehow ya'll think your way is the "right" way. But that way has lead us to mutiple needless wars ,racism,sexiam,gay bashing, the list goes on. You are clearly whats wrong ith this country not some random ass muslim.
Problem is you have to lump all religions together if you are going to say one is bad.. Each religion has killed & started wars. This is the issue .. so called Chistians groups don't want any other form of religion in the U.S. so they push to have Islam or whatever religion they choose to be labeled as evil. I am a republican but I don't feed into the propaganda that is being spewed out of the republican or christian base. Has nothing to do with being pc or liberal.
Pointing out that christian violence is just as bad as muslim violence is politically correct? How so? No other religion is as violent as these two. When have you ever seen or heard of a Buddhist gunning down people who don't follow Theraveda? Which of the many wars in our history have been directly caused by Wiccans? Where in the world have Hindu followers blown themselves or others up for Krishna? I really hate u non-thinking unaware cons.
It's not politically correct, it's just bogus liberal deflection. We have an enemy today, extremist Islam, and if you tell that to a liberal they say "So? Remember 500 years ago, that war Christians started?" They then proceed to bury their heads in sand and pretend nothing is wrong.
It's not about deflection at all, it's about the realities of religious extremism as a whole. Extremist anything is bad. Scott Roeder didn't enter a church and gun down a guy for his christian beliefs 500 years ago. A born again, church going, christian president did not deceptively invade another country and endorse the torture of it's people 500 years ago. There is as much evidence of modern christian terrorism as there is muslim.
The only silver lining in this great tragedy is the fact that most, if not all the soldiers killed in the shooting were conservative/christians. And the killer is going to be put to death of course and he's a muslim so at least we have a few less religious nutjobs left in the world.
The fact that you're using a generalization makes your argument invalid. Typical of cuntservative trash, just like you fucks blame all muslims for this tragedy.
Should they all be banned, no. However when their co-workers are afraid of reporting suspicious activity due to the backlash of reverse discrimination - that is simply a poor policy. Anyone in the military should be allowed to report activity - and just knowing that this idiot attempted to contact the enemy should have been enough to bring down the house on him. What does mcvey have to do with this. This was a terrorist act - plain and simply. He used his religion as a reason to kill.
Way to use one crappy exapmle Cenk. You dont have any issue with the fact that Obama never mentioned terror being the root cause of the shooting during the memorial?
There are Muslim Americans who also jerk off, use porn, and consume alcohol. While I appreciate those lukewarm heretical Muslims who betray their faith, it still remains that Islam is intended also as a political system, which is why they push for Sharia law, and why there are so many Muslim theocracies.
''Muslims are not Americans. Americans are people who support the U.S. constitution, not people who would discard it for Sharia law.''
Same argument can be used against Christians. They put their Bible over our constitution. Bible is fascist just like Sharia law. And thats why we have freedom of religion in this country and a civil law.
Yes all Americans should be giving their loyalty to The secular law and the constitution. The shooter should be punished for treason and murder and mutiny, as any criminal would.
Malik Nidal Hasan a true Barack Hussein Obama believer and product of Att Gen Holders war on the CIA and institutionalized political correctness. Hasan received the same training as the 9/11 hijackers from the evil Imam in VA as a matter of record he emailed a key Al Qaeda operatives like Al Awlaki's, Hasan had SOA (Soldier of Alah) on his Goverment business card. He was part of Obamas transition team and proselytizing our returning Vets, he supported the Jihad on America.
He wore Jihad play suite and handed out his war manifesto the Karan, posted his terrorist plan on terrorists websites, plotted and planned, then soberly armed and chose to commit treason on fellow service men by screaming Allah Akbar and opened fire on the innocent and pregnant at Ft Hood. Felled by a brave America Hero, a Woman named Kimberly Munley and now will be brought to America justice. ObayMao Fail.
This is big and when something this big comes along you do not sit idly by in all your piggliedidlyness waiting for death a loser you jump winner and get on to this waiting for death no more the meaning of your existence death defeated the resurrection of the dead all restored to original eternal life gold travelling ascension and transition throughout eternal life heaven all has been made ready not one lost not one dammed
from top to bottom to top immortal gods above gods never ending my fathers great and mighty holy sphere said you will take this to the last second and I the son keep on take you to your last second and passes you have been spared then the second is upon you and it is the last and your gone fools of Babylon all did nothing when you could have done something kingdoms upon kingdoms never ending are at stake here jump.
Man is lazy has misconstrued manipulated and rigged everything to suit himself for all that is evil death one sin only against my will the will of my son and all of eternal life heaven never ending fallen earth a tatty bush man made abomination where the dead under possess the dead living on the surface no more space left to die it's bursting at the seams to a world full of silly rituals and know all's who know nothing all are dead at the bottom of heavens garden. I am bringing man to heel.
For all u Americans who don't believe 'religion' calls for govt. Or that Christianity is a government. It should be enough to refer u to The Vatican. It use to have POLITICAL AUTHORITY over all of Western Europe. Of course u believe the Pope or Arch-Bishop's role in coronations of monarches is ceremonial.
England, the mother country of America, is by Law not only a 'Christian' nation it is an Anglican nation.
The Bible is a Handbook on 'How to Build and Govern a Nation"
If u weren't such human Parrots and would read with an attempt to understand rather than memorize u would know the Torah or Old Testament is a How to Build a Nartion and Establish a Government' book.
this is why ABRAHAM means 'Father of Nations' u big Dittohead dummies.
The Book of Numbers is a how to Book on the operation of a CENSUS which is a function of GOVERNMENT for the purpose of population control, taxation, labor and military capability.
The Book of Exodus beginning with Ch. 31 is a Manuel of how to organise a labour force with the skills necessary to build a city. The categories of engineers, craftsman even the merchants charged with purchase and inventories.
Of course this is one of the more pragmatic hence 'boring' parts of the Bible therefore ur preacher doesn't dwell on it.
It is the basis for General Contracting and Sub-Contracting.
But u need not have to read the Bible to understand this. All you got to do is look at ur boy Charleton Heston in "10 Commandments" to understand that a NATION left Egypt to build or establish their own NATION in the Promise Land.
SO WHAT THE FUCK R U TALKING ABOUT?
The foundations of Christianity are based on The Vatican despite whatever American Protestant absurdity u subscribe to.
As 4 England this is the Crown and Anglican Church.
Christianity became POLITICAL the second Constantine the Great converted.
Christianity became OFFICIALLY EXCLUSIVE the second Theodosius the Great made it by Law the ONLY religion of the Roman Empire.
so u can have delusions of Christianity not being a government all u want. If that's what u believe then stop trying to impose ur feeble Christian beliefs on others by law.
Ur opinions on any government should not matter from a Christian belief viewpoint. Stay out of govt.
One of their supporters is Kenneth Copeland who lives like a King. You know the spiel - if you can't pay your rent & your elec bill just send whatever funds you do have to him & God will take care of you.
Another is Michele Bachmann who loves Oral Roberts & who went to Oral Roberts College while Oral Roberts was saying he carried on a conversation w/ Jesus & Jesus was 90 feet tall.
I wonder if Jesus shook Oral's hand or put his arm around Oral?
There are stupid people of every religion, race, creed, color, and organization. As to whether there are more dumb conservatives or democrats, thats debatable.
America only seems to have more because we have something most other countries don't. Free press - and the ability to laugh at ourselves without shooting the messenger.
what about the millions of dead muslims, who were killed by american, no, im sorry, killed by christian/catholics...christianity and islam are the same bullshit
Look my name is Mohammed and I'm from Iraq but I agree with this Fisher guy. I'm not saying all Muslims are extremists. But by definition a pious Muslim is one who literally follows the Quran and the Hadith wich means he must sympathize with suicide bombers and must kill American soldiers.
The thing is there are no true pious Muslims. They are a very small minority. I've got religious friends who listen to Metallica. They are not pious. They just have deluded minds.
I didn't say "MUST". I'm saying there are no true pious Muslims. There are no pious Christians or Jews for that matter. Pious means devoutly religious. Just like I said I have a friend who believes 9/11 was justifiable but listens to Metallica all day even though listening to music is forbidden in Islam. He's not pious he just picks what suits him.
And BTW I am Iraqi, my name is Mohammed Hatem, and I'm atheist.
"The GOP works best & closest to God when its members are White Christians!!"
How about old, white, rich, male Christians? Except for the rich part, that's pretty much the current GOP demographic. Now, if we could just educate the deluded, working class Republicans...
Thomas Jefferson warned us about Islam. Remember that little problem in Tripoli (The Marine Corps sure as hell does.) So we have been lied to by Islam for all that time but what we need to do is take another step back??? The thought process that proclaims that as the American way is, haphazard and at threat to our security (world wide.) How long before we finally take a step forward for the security of our nation? Islam has no requirement to be truthful to those seen as infidel.
It's provided for muslims in the Koran to LIE and DECEIVE if it's towards infidels ... no wonder all these gullible LIBITARDS are fooled so easily .. LOL
Muslims world wide support the Koran as the absolute truth, purity of truth, and the distillation of truth over time. Which is of course why they constantly change it???
TheShrinkRap..... "Islam has no requirement to be truthful to those seen as infidel."
That's how Oblama got in. He's a muslime and lied the whole time. I've never seen such a pathological liar as Oblama. He even beats Clinton, hands down.
For your hallucinations and you inability to understand the presidential election process. I would suggest Prozac. Takes the edge off...
Just for the hell of it try judging the man by his accomplishments not his color. You do bring up an interesting point though. I presume your intense hatred of liars also applies to George W. Bush. For that matter every politician that has ever held office anywhere and at anytime.
I think if you review the circumstances you will see that TJ was specific in regard to the Muslim faith's inability to distinguish the truth. They had no envoy capability, no actual experience in dealing with diplomatic process and a instant mistrust of a people they never met. They almost went to war with themselves trying to determine who would speak for them. You do remember the final act in that play...
I would interject that pot heads come from all walks of life. From monarchy, presidents, judges, police officers, doctors, etc. I have met some very interesting pot heads.
The more devout a Christian is, the more of a threat he/she is to the Nation. This is because devout Christians can't wait for their desert god to come back and destroy the whole f#@king world. They work toward this end. How is that less dangerous than some devout muslim.
Religion Poisons Everything! Grow up humans! Ditch your stupid gods!
What? Did you get that from some book in the self-help aisle at the local Barnes and Noble?
We have a monumental problem and you bring up different ways to think about it. Not how to address the issue but how to think. You know what you should also present a new method of speak while you're at it.
Grammar was not what I was critiquing smart one. Reread the comment. If you still come to the same conclusion than comprehension skills is what you need to work on.
No MORON ... the fact that Islam as a whole stands idly by while MILLIONS of muslims dream eagerly of the day they can commit a violent murderous jihaad, and how proud their family and community would be if they did so, the honor he/she would bring them ...
This is why he analyzes the issue the way he does. Don't blame us for the radical EVIL actions of muslim extremists!
The FT Hood shooting is a TERRIBLE muslim terrorist act .. we must watch ALL muslims now ... even more closely.
I have seen enough videos on youtube about where blackwater guys spraying bullets on civillians and us marines screaming and bombing.. WP reports 100 000 civillians slaughtered in Iraq.. NO SYMPATHY FOR US MILITARY WHATSOEVER
Muslims are the enemy; they are horrible disgusting people who use their "faith" as their out to kill. Timothy McVea didn't blow up the federal building because he was a Christian, but because he was anti-government and opposed taxes.
You stupid ass liberals need to wake up and realize the world is not made of cotton candy. Maybe when your wife is burning in a building for no other reason than she works at the World Trade Center, you would see things different. U make me sick
You are a moron! We live in the United States of Amnesia. We forget about the fucked up things we've done in other countries, especially the third world. Many millions died from our policies, hundreds of thousands from war.
The US is the biggest terrorist state in the world. It is considered to be the rogue state and is the biggest threat to world peace. American greed, arrogance and stupidity is very evident.
I guess people outside of the US aren't considered humans.
I am against the federal government on many counts, but that doesn't mean I'll rush to protect muslim terrorists or the violent frequent trend in a particular culture or religion.
Do you wish harm and violence against Americans? Those soldiers did nothing to deserve the violent death they received and for what?!?! In praise of Allah, Hasan's jihaad?!
America itself is not the devil you make it out to be.
The US has been the super power of the past since WWII. Over 700 military bases in the world, do you not feel secure? Having the best military that the world has ever known, still not secure?
The US government has killed many leaders of Central and South America that were elected democratically. US overthrew Iran's democratic government. The Iraq war that has killed around a million Iraqis ON A LIE!
It is a shame for anyone's life to be cut short from violence. Families are affected for life. Why isn't anyone showing the same compassion to the thousands that died in Iraq WHICH OUR GOVERNMENT KNOWINGLY LIED to us?
There are just enough "Christians" that want Muslims dead. Many soldiers that are "Christians" have killed. More Muslims have died in the hands of Christianity. Those Iraqis didn't deserve to die. For what? Profits of war? Oil? WMD?
First off, I don't believe in democrats or republicans. Their both bullshit!
I am stating the facts, the numbers, the realities. How can you compare the two? Its like comparing the power of Israel to Palestine. Three thousand dead soldiers compared to a million Iraqis. That isn't a distortion.
So when a soldier kills to protect his life, he doesn't ask help from God? When a muslim fighting the occupation and murder of his people, he doesn't ask Allah for help? Praise God for justice.
What do you call the CIA's involvement of Iran's overthrow of their democratic government? I'm sure that was against some international law. How about the assassinations of leaders in Central and South America? That isn't considered terrorism? The US has been terrorizing since Vietnam! We contributed to the Khmer Rouge who murdered millions of Cambodians. How about Angola?
Read a book. Iran is the number one state sponsor of terrorism. Our support of Israel is all rosy too huh?
Reagan's War on Drugs is the funniest thing ever! Drug money was used to fund operations in Latin America. Interesting how CIA is linked to drugs. Who introduced crack to the ghettos? Who is on the payroll from Afghanistan's opium trade? How did Karzai become President again? Who supplied Saddam weapons whom we accused of having WMD?
What do you have to say about these things? Don't try calling me a liberal or conservative. Obama is carrying out Bush's third term.
Look I agree ... the CIA among other government agencies overextended themselves but remember ... they used movements inside those countries already to achieve their objectives.
In other words .... the people of those countries wanted what the CIA had to offer as far as aid and support.
Really? They wanted deaths and the CIA? Tell that to the victims. It is more like the puppets we put in power wanted us there. Look a bit deeper. There was too much going on there to not ask questions!
What has been happening in South America is a threat to the US. The countries and peoples are uniting against US influence. I wonder why?
My disgust and disappointment comes from revelations of US foreign policy. It isn't anti-American, its humanity. What would you say if you were on the receiving end of US "diplomacy"?
I obviously got my information somewhere. Don't discredit it because it goes against your views. Question it, look into it is the least any person can do.
Its funny that ex-CIA and ex-military speaks out against the wars. They are very brave to put their lives on the line, even braver to speak.
How is America specifically responsible for those supposed million?
The lancet study you're referring to is blown WAY out of proportion by almost a factor of 10 and was conducted by Hussein's cheif propagandist Riyadh Lafta, who also claimed the UN was responsible for what Sadam Hussein himself had done to his own civilians.
How did they die? I don't know, I wasn't there. Why should I speculate? Ask the people that were shooting and dropping bombs.
Responsible that the US government lied to go to war! Al Qaeda, yes. Iraq, no! I say a million, you say some hundred thousand. Where is the value of life? We cry about three thousand soldiers, adults by the way. No compassion for the thousands of women and children? Did I say the war was based of a lie?
I guess all the experts are wrong including Chomsky.
American troops did NOT purposely gun down women and children ... save for an isolated incident, and it was DEEPLY tragic to be sure ... but as a whole .. any civilian casualties were not deliberate and resulted from BOTH sides fighting and you know it.
IRAQ is responsible for more civilian deaths than American forces.
It is impossible to know for sure. That situation is either you or me. Isolated incident, you mean Fallujah? Fallujah was as isolated as the torture of inmates in Bagram, Abu Grahib and Guantanamo. Its urban warfare. You'll shoot at anything that moves. They're all towelheads right?
What is tragic is all that destruction on a lie for profit and oil? HOW DO YOU RESOLVED THAT IN YOUR CONSCIENCE?
By the way, millions died through sanctions. Sanctions are always the answer. If that doesn't kill them, say they have WMD. Oh wait, Saddam changed from selling oil from US dollars to euros. Interesting. Iran did the same thing about a month ago. Predictable where that will lead.
First, be critical of mainstream news. Why did Eisenhower warn the public about the military industrial complex before leaving office? You not remember that? They have gotten powerful. How do you fool the masses into supporting A LIE? They lied to us all!
We have people thinking of how to go to war! You have to be kidding me! There's a bill out there where they can arrest you for a crime you haven't committed. They can lock you up, no trial, no lawyers. ship you out. Doubt me?
You cannot blame those leaders for feeling the way they do. What would you do in their shoes? By the way, Ahmadinejad may be the president but he doesn't call the shots! The true leader of Iran is AGAINST nuclear weapons. It doesn't help that we support Israel in everything they do. Their fellow Palestinians have suffered for many decades. Is that a coincidence?
It would be a great mistake for any country in the middle east to attack Israel, unless provoked by Israel.
Its really hard to express yourself on here with the limits.
Every action the US takes, it cements the Middle East views of the US. From the overthrow of Iran's democracy, support for Saddam, false war with Iraq, support of the Taliban and Osama, our stance on Israel, to Afghanistan. I'm missing some but you get the point.
Who really has WMD in that region? Really. Nuclear weapons are being used to defend themselves of the US. Looks like our priorities were screwed.
One thing I'm sure of ... Iran and North Korea have threatened genocide at least a few times publicly this year alone ... I for one think it deserves the world's attention first and foremost.
Like I said twice before, I do not condone or support the federal government on many levels.
I too question mainstream news including MSNBC and FOX ... two networks diametrically opposed ...while there is no doubt, profits to made in war ... the cause leading into all of them are noble and just. Even the most extreme left supported the IRAQ invasion ..
Oh and yes .. I have heard that they can detain terrorists indefinitely .. disturbing indeed.
Get beyond democrats and republicans if you want to get to the truth. They are same. They don't serve the people, they serve the elite and corporations. Look who Obama filled his cabinet with. Obama hasn't done anything opposite of Bush that is significant. I am talking about where it matters.
I don't share the idea that the causes were noble and just. There are better ways of spreading democracy.
Our presence there is for more reasons than oil, pipeline, opium, freedom, or anything.
True ... left/right is really two heads of the same beast. Thusly, I am against the federal government on many levels. I agree with you there nesianboy ... the only thing I don't jive with is RADICAL JIHAADISTS wanting to kill or convert me either!
The BLOODY massacre perpetrated by Hasan is yet another reason for Americans to take a second look at extreme pockets of muslim body politic.
The government doesn't give a damn about the people living IN the US either. As long as a dollar can be made, they can justify every fucked up thing they do.
RELIGION IS THE ENEMY; horrible disgusting people use thier "faith" as an out to kill. muslims are not the only extremists in the world.
You stupid ass conservatives need to wake up and realise that your narrow view of the world is self destructive. Maybe when your daughter is bleeding to death on a sidewalk for no other reason than she needed an abortion to save her life, you would see things differently. U make me sick
Notice how the conservative extremists don't like to be identified along with muslim extremists. All these religious assholes are carbon copies of each other, thinking everyone else's fake god is better than the next. chrisitan, muslim, whatever, they're all a bunch of mentally ill assholes making the rest of us miserable.
christians have killed more people in the name of their religion than any other cult in history. Stomping on gay peoples rights is just one of the many fucked up things they do in this country.
Sources? You're kidding me right? Read a fucking history book jackass. And I don't have to try to be cool anymore, I'm 60 years old you imbecile. Kids aren't the only ones to know that religion is bullshit and only a moron would be involved in it.
The only one here that's sophomoric is the person who follows a Bronze Age myth that is not only a total crock of lies, but is responsible for most of the worlds problems. Between you assholes and the muslims you have managed to make the world intolerable for the rest of us. Please do yourself a favor, and kill yourself. jebus is waiting for you.
GO ahead and keep telling yourself that the most hateful ones are the religions while you suggest we all kill ourselves. Grow up kid, you need a new hobby
If you're calling me a kid you must be at least 75. As for killing yourself, please, do. And take your family with you too since we don't want your kind to propagate. I've had a lifetime of you ignorant cocksuckers telling me I'm going to hell for not believing your horseshit, and if that isn't hateful enough then I don't know what is. I don't want an eternity of suffering for you. I just want you dead and gone. You can pretend you're going somewhere other than in the ground if you want.
@BeatDownReligion I'm with you on that religion ruining the world thing. It also teaches people not to think and believe whatever they are told. AAAAAAAA
Now if we could just convince the other 92 percent of the idiots in this country we'd have a whole new outlook on our future. Notice the guy above your post still can't get with the program that I'm an old guy. I guess he thinks you have to be young to hate religion! If you still believe that shit at my age there's no hope left for you!
Well slavery was justified by the religion, the KKK and many other skinhead type groups used the bible as there justification for the murder of minorties, the whole point is any religion can be twisted to justifie horrible things people do, the Yates lady killed all her kids becuase she thought they would go to hell if she didn't take them out before it was too late.
U NON MUSLIMS STINK MAN U NEVER ACCEPT THE TRUTH
lexxxus03 9 months ago
Liberals like Cenk support the Fort Hood shooter.
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
@StoogeWatcher I'm a liberal like Cenk and i don't
shandcunt 11 months ago
@StoogeWatcher
How fucking stupid can you be ? Explain your logic you stupid fuck.
TimmyHaag 11 months ago
@TimmyHaag You Democrats are fucking stupid. You constantly attack the military and make excuses for radical Islam.
StoogeWatcher 11 months ago
@StoogeWatcher
I'm an Iraq Veteran genius. Think before you type you dumb fuck.
TimmyHaag 11 months ago
@TimmyHaag Way to stick it to that idiot troll.
steelersguy74 10 months ago
Could all US soldiers leave all the muslim countries they have invaded and THEN talk about peace?
hamrite 2 years ago
@hamrite well the line in the sand was drawn when u assholes slammed 2 jets into our towers.
LeaveItToBeaner 1 year ago
@LeaveItToBeaner Hum, enquire about Iran and Mossadegh in the 50's, and then go down the list from then on;)
hamrite 1 year ago
12.19 Pakistan Poonch An Indian border guard is shot by a Muslim sniper from Pakistan.
12.19 Iraq Mosul Jihadi gunmen take down three Iraqis in separate attacks.
12.19 Thailand Narathiwat 3 Buddhists are incinerated when Muslim insurgents blow up a gas tank
And that is just THIS WEEK!!!!
Their were 33 Attacks the week before
CandelarioGaIvan 2 years ago
wtf??? there werent 15,000 dealdy terriorist attcks.. who told u tht... o let me guess the most unrealible news media in the world CNN,FOX etc. ya... and why r we in this war.... o ya cuz of oil not terriorism
MHaQuE32 2 years ago
MHaQuE32
Their have been over 15,000 deadly terrorist attacks since 911 Do you need me to start listing them??
12.21 SomaliaMogadishu 5 Somalis near a minibus are murdered by al-Shabaab bombers.
12.21 YemenAbyan al-Qaeda militants booby-trap an area with explosives, killing two wounding 9
12.20 Iraq Mosul Terrorist gun down 2 local cops.
12.20 Somalia Mogadishu Ane Somali is killed in a mortar attack by Islamic militia.
CandelarioGaIvan 2 years ago
blacks shouldn't be fighting for this country anyway! you fight for the right to come home to abuse and racism!
truth2masses 2 years ago
they should be put on the front lines and killed so none of them come back
geordies4990 2 years ago
@geordies4990 ENGLISH FAGGOT, JUST MIND TO FAGGOT BUSINESS. I WILL DEAL WITH BLACKS IN TELLING THEM WHO TO FIGHT!
truth2masses 2 years ago
Just imagine, for sake of argument, that we wage war on Israel, can someone tell me there wouldn't be Jewish terrorism in this country??
Actually, we don't have to hypothesize; Jewish terrorism was extremely active against Great Britain during the British mandate on Palestine because they felt England was trying to slow down the Jewish migration to Palestine.
peachybeach 2 years ago
peachybeach
When did the Jews go about blowing up markets full of Jews!!!
The Muslims aren't attacking us they are attacking other Muslim's
Are you really worried about Jews??? Last guy who spoke that way killed himself inside his bunker
CandelarioGaIvan 2 years ago
I already gave you an example. and no, I was not picking on Jews; my point was that it is only logical to see certain elements of a race or ethnicity showing contempt and anger when you wage wars on their nations. and for the record, jewish terrorists have killed other jews in the past. look up the blowing up of the King David hotel in Jerusalem
peachybeach 2 years ago
peachybeach
Their have been about 15.000 deadly terrorist attacks commited by muslims in the last 10 years. Most of which were against Muslims.
You talk about waging war. Saddam waged war against Iran and now the Iranians are wanting some payback
CandelarioGaIvan 2 years ago
my dear friend, I suppose Jews who fought the Nazis in the Warsaw ghettos were also called terrorists by the German propaganda at the time. As someone who read history carefully, I know only too well that things are not so black and white. many of what you might call terrorist attacks against, say Israel, could be legitimate self-defense acts including the resistance in South Lebanon by Hezbollah and in the Occupied Territories by Hamas.
peachybeach 2 years ago
peachybeach
In order to be a freedom fighter one has to actually fight for freedom.
Hamas doesn't believe in Freedom at all. They are more than willing to murder anyone as a menas to victory
They are more than willing to launch useless weapons at the Jews in the hope that a response will cause deaths among the Palestinians.
I suppose if the Jews in Warsaw had went to German homes and cut a few throats they cold be seen as terrorist.
CandelarioGaIvan 2 years ago
SPEAK PROPER ENGLISH. And when the hell did someone says something about races not existing?
DJbruehl 2 years ago
Really? Where are you getting this?
When you talk to an ignorant racist who is xenophobic, you've already won. Go back to school bud
DJbruehl 2 years ago
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Christians murdered millions upon millions of heathen indigenous peoples, it was worse than what the Nazis did to the Jews...all organized religion needs to go off this fucking earth...the US government has many times backed Islamic extremists for their own goals and political gain
jesusisbling 2 years ago
I think your lack of ability to speak your own language says something about you buddy. I know immigrants who speak better English.
DJbruehl 2 years ago
Muslims that have joined the military that want to get out for reasons of their religious belief should have some considerations.
songbird9476 2 years ago
so taxpayers paid for their upkeep for no reason? so any muslim can just sign up for the military, get all the privileges of being in the military, and then decide to "opt out" when it comes time for a war?
sorry. not buying it. they should be screened at the beginning.
geodesicks 2 years ago
Kudos on the video!
Mechelle68 2 years ago
Then soft christians should identifie their fanatics too. And in the States, they are many...
jimalbi 2 years ago
Religion has got to go. It is a fairytale and its practice is a dangerous cult.
ndyt 2 years ago
What a mature human being you are. You criticize multiculturalism but you can't speak proper English. You mean "its", not the contraption "it's". Go to school.
DJbruehl 2 years ago
So you're saying we should prevent certain religions in our military?
Oh wait, I just noticed you hate Jews too. You an antisemitic asshole, and people like you are impossible to reason with because you have you heads stuck up your xenophobic asses.
DJbruehl 2 years ago 2
Oh wow, so the KKK are made up of white people. I guess we better cut off white people from joining the police force as they "MIGHT" discriminate and pull another Rodney King.
SupremePenguinTone 2 years ago
So since Liberalism is the cause of Muslim fanatics. Whats the cause of white christian fanatics? Conservative's do nothing but promote hate. Somehow ya'll think your way is the "right" way. But that way has lead us to mutiple needless wars ,racism,sexiam,gay bashing, the list goes on. You are clearly whats wrong ith this country not some random ass muslim.
Bucktown1999 2 years ago
"The exact same thing can be said about christians what with groups like the Lambs of Christ, the Militia of Montana, the Klan, etc."
So thats how you retort. eh?
I said Islam is bad and then you reply
"Christianity is bad too"
Did I say christianity or for that matter any other religion is good
I really hate u politically correct ass**** liberals
jsvjuggernaut 2 years ago
Problem is you have to lump all religions together if you are going to say one is bad.. Each religion has killed & started wars. This is the issue .. so called Chistians groups don't want any other form of religion in the U.S. so they push to have Islam or whatever religion they choose to be labeled as evil. I am a republican but I don't feed into the propaganda that is being spewed out of the republican or christian base. Has nothing to do with being pc or liberal.
slwfreez 2 years ago
Pointing out that christian violence is just as bad as muslim violence is politically correct? How so? No other religion is as violent as these two. When have you ever seen or heard of a Buddhist gunning down people who don't follow Theraveda? Which of the many wars in our history have been directly caused by Wiccans? Where in the world have Hindu followers blown themselves or others up for Krishna? I really hate u non-thinking unaware cons.
Lynx787 2 years ago
It's not politically correct, it's just bogus liberal deflection. We have an enemy today, extremist Islam, and if you tell that to a liberal they say "So? Remember 500 years ago, that war Christians started?" They then proceed to bury their heads in sand and pretend nothing is wrong.
aggiefitz 2 years ago
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Lynx787 2 years ago
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It's not about deflection at all, it's about the realities of religious extremism as a whole. Extremist anything is bad. Scott Roeder didn't enter a church and gun down a guy for his christian beliefs 500 years ago. A born again, church going, christian president did not deceptively invade another country and endorse the torture of it's people 500 years ago. There is as much evidence of modern christian terrorism as there is muslim.
Lynx787 2 years ago
aggiefitz Well Done :Speaking Truth to Airheads
mrbriscoe2001 2 years ago
The only silver lining in this great tragedy is the fact that most, if not all the soldiers killed in the shooting were conservative/christians. And the killer is going to be put to death of course and he's a muslim so at least we have a few less religious nutjobs left in the world.
Shadowlit001 2 years ago
Wow, that is so great. One need not look any further for evidence of leftists being far more hateful than any conservative ever could.
Conservative reaction: "This is why we are fighting"
Liberal :At least he took a few white christians with him"
aggiefitz 2 years ago
The fact that you're using a generalization makes your argument invalid. Typical of cuntservative trash, just like you fucks blame all muslims for this tragedy.
Shadowlit001 2 years ago 3
Should they all be banned, no. However when their co-workers are afraid of reporting suspicious activity due to the backlash of reverse discrimination - that is simply a poor policy. Anyone in the military should be allowed to report activity - and just knowing that this idiot attempted to contact the enemy should have been enough to bring down the house on him. What does mcvey have to do with this. This was a terrorist act - plain and simply. He used his religion as a reason to kill.
armyofonerd 2 years ago
Way to use one crappy exapmle Cenk. You dont have any issue with the fact that Obama never mentioned terror being the root cause of the shooting during the memorial?
MrBoredatwork 2 years ago
I've noticed the same deflection of blame from islamofascists to those who criticize them by media smart-asses all over the western world.
Roll over Salvador Dahli and Alice In Wonderland.....surrealism has a new master and its name is The Western Media.
You know guys, sometimes there comes a time when not recognising an enemy becomes more than stupid, it morphs into cowardice.
wlwak 2 years ago
Muslims are not Americans. Americans are people who support the U.S. constitution, not people who would discard it for Sharia law.
Cenk is a dangerous moron.
highwind8126 2 years ago
@highwind8126 there are muslim americans who support the U.S as U.S citizens and serve the laws of America.
Deedovich 2 years ago
There are Muslim Americans who also jerk off, use porn, and consume alcohol. While I appreciate those lukewarm heretical Muslims who betray their faith, it still remains that Islam is intended also as a political system, which is why they push for Sharia law, and why there are so many Muslim theocracies.
highwind8124 2 years ago
''Muslims are not Americans. Americans are people who support the U.S. constitution, not people who would discard it for Sharia law.''
Same argument can be used against Christians. They put their Bible over our constitution. Bible is fascist just like Sharia law. And thats why we have freedom of religion in this country and a civil law.
IC1101 2 years ago 10
An american is a person born in America or naturalised in American. There is no americometer
jopaddy81 2 years ago
Yes all Americans should be giving their loyalty to The secular law and the constitution. The shooter should be punished for treason and murder and mutiny, as any criminal would.
deejin25 2 years ago 2
Malik Nidal Hasan a true Barack Hussein Obama believer and product of Att Gen Holders war on the CIA and institutionalized political correctness. Hasan received the same training as the 9/11 hijackers from the evil Imam in VA as a matter of record he emailed a key Al Qaeda operatives like Al Awlaki's, Hasan had SOA (Soldier of Alah) on his Goverment business card. He was part of Obamas transition team and proselytizing our returning Vets, he supported the Jihad on America.
JoeJeffersonn 2 years ago
He wore Jihad play suite and handed out his war manifesto the Karan, posted his terrorist plan on terrorists websites, plotted and planned, then soberly armed and chose to commit treason on fellow service men by screaming Allah Akbar and opened fire on the innocent and pregnant at Ft Hood. Felled by a brave America Hero, a Woman named Kimberly Munley and now will be brought to America justice. ObayMao Fail.
JoeJeffersonn 2 years ago
Try not to judge all conservatives by the actions of a few. (OK, so quite a bit more than a few are crazy, but you get what I mean.)
M0N1ER 2 years ago
This Cenk guy is living proof that Muslims are backward fucktards.
JimboVids 2 years ago
Staring to think? This country country fears anything non-Protestant.
discworld 2 years ago
scank is olby's lap dog, now that is crazy
09090985 2 years ago
This is big and when something this big comes along you do not sit idly by in all your piggliedidlyness waiting for death a loser you jump winner and get on to this waiting for death no more the meaning of your existence death defeated the resurrection of the dead all restored to original eternal life gold travelling ascension and transition throughout eternal life heaven all has been made ready not one lost not one dammed
Godtomanonly 2 years ago
from top to bottom to top immortal gods above gods never ending my fathers great and mighty holy sphere said you will take this to the last second and I the son keep on take you to your last second and passes you have been spared then the second is upon you and it is the last and your gone fools of Babylon all did nothing when you could have done something kingdoms upon kingdoms never ending are at stake here jump.
Godtomanonly 2 years ago
Man is lazy has misconstrued manipulated and rigged everything to suit himself for all that is evil death one sin only against my will the will of my son and all of eternal life heaven never ending fallen earth a tatty bush man made abomination where the dead under possess the dead living on the surface no more space left to die it's bursting at the seams to a world full of silly rituals and know all's who know nothing all are dead at the bottom of heavens garden. I am bringing man to heel.
Godtomanonly 2 years ago
Those few Islamic states who have not yet surrendered their governments to the Islamic fundies and barbaric sharia law ,what's taking you so long ?
Do you know something about Islams true intentions the whole world should know and fear?
Believe me ,we already know and have developed an effective radioactive therapeutic for this incidious mind cancer should the disease become epidemic.
patiencepays 2 years ago
islam is the enemy
wtcfreedomtowers 2 years ago
Todays weak kneed lazy political correctness has much in common with the decimated north american indian culture.
The west is ripe for a slow incidious Muslim invasion as this is islams reason for being.
patiencepays 2 years ago
For all u Americans who don't believe 'religion' calls for govt. Or that Christianity is a government. It should be enough to refer u to The Vatican. It use to have POLITICAL AUTHORITY over all of Western Europe. Of course u believe the Pope or Arch-Bishop's role in coronations of monarches is ceremonial.
England, the mother country of America, is by Law not only a 'Christian' nation it is an Anglican nation.
The Bible is a Handbook on 'How to Build and Govern a Nation"
yosefbenyosef 2 years ago
If u weren't such human Parrots and would read with an attempt to understand rather than memorize u would know the Torah or Old Testament is a How to Build a Nartion and Establish a Government' book.
this is why ABRAHAM means 'Father of Nations' u big Dittohead dummies.
The Book of Numbers is a how to Book on the operation of a CENSUS which is a function of GOVERNMENT for the purpose of population control, taxation, labor and military capability.
yosefbenyosef 2 years ago
The Book of Exodus beginning with Ch. 31 is a Manuel of how to organise a labour force with the skills necessary to build a city. The categories of engineers, craftsman even the merchants charged with purchase and inventories.
Of course this is one of the more pragmatic hence 'boring' parts of the Bible therefore ur preacher doesn't dwell on it.
It is the basis for General Contracting and Sub-Contracting.
Contracts are the Foundation of enacted Law.
and then there's Laws.
yosefbenyosef 2 years ago
But u need not have to read the Bible to understand this. All you got to do is look at ur boy Charleton Heston in "10 Commandments" to understand that a NATION left Egypt to build or establish their own NATION in the Promise Land.
SO WHAT THE FUCK R U TALKING ABOUT?
The foundations of Christianity are based on The Vatican despite whatever American Protestant absurdity u subscribe to.
As 4 England this is the Crown and Anglican Church.
yosefbenyosef 2 years ago 2
AGAIN
Christianity became POLITICAL the second Constantine the Great converted.
Christianity became OFFICIALLY EXCLUSIVE the second Theodosius the Great made it by Law the ONLY religion of the Roman Empire.
so u can have delusions of Christianity not being a government all u want. If that's what u believe then stop trying to impose ur feeble Christian beliefs on others by law.
Ur opinions on any government should not matter from a Christian belief viewpoint. Stay out of govt.
yosefbenyosef 2 years ago 2
The Right Wing is the most unamerican mainstream group of people on U.S soil.
IncredibleStan 2 years ago 3
Are you saying these people shoot other people because they are liberal?
Bucktown1999 2 years ago
American Family Association is a crazy bunch.
One of their supporters is Kenneth Copeland who lives like a King. You know the spiel - if you can't pay your rent & your elec bill just send whatever funds you do have to him & God will take care of you.
Another is Michele Bachmann who loves Oral Roberts & who went to Oral Roberts College while Oral Roberts was saying he carried on a conversation w/ Jesus & Jesus was 90 feet tall.
I wonder if Jesus shook Oral's hand or put his arm around Oral?
DillonX 2 years ago 2
There are stupid people of every religion, race, creed, color, and organization. As to whether there are more dumb conservatives or democrats, thats debatable.
America only seems to have more because we have something most other countries don't. Free press - and the ability to laugh at ourselves without shooting the messenger.
SilverAtta 2 years ago
The Young Turks is Not a News Program
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The Young Turks is Not News: 2009 Elections
watch?v=J_BC4tnX6qY
PresidentTeleprompte 2 years ago
what about the millions of dead muslims, who were killed by american, no, im sorry, killed by christian/catholics...christianity and islam are the same bullshit
xjv8 2 years ago
C'mon guys let's get real
Look my name is Mohammed and I'm from Iraq but I agree with this Fisher guy. I'm not saying all Muslims are extremists. But by definition a pious Muslim is one who literally follows the Quran and the Hadith wich means he must sympathize with suicide bombers and must kill American soldiers.
The thing is there are no true pious Muslims. They are a very small minority. I've got religious friends who listen to Metallica. They are not pious. They just have deluded minds.
m7md7atem 2 years ago
and christians must symathize with hitler, read the old testament, killing nonbelivers,gays etc. u are not iraqi, u are a fat ignorant american
xjv8 2 years ago
I didn't say "MUST". I'm saying there are no true pious Muslims. There are no pious Christians or Jews for that matter. Pious means devoutly religious. Just like I said I have a friend who believes 9/11 was justifiable but listens to Metallica all day even though listening to music is forbidden in Islam. He's not pious he just picks what suits him.
And BTW I am Iraqi, my name is Mohammed Hatem, and I'm atheist.
m7md7atem 2 years ago
Cenk, You continue to be the biggest douchebag on YouTube.
southpore1 2 years ago
Not only do the Muslims need to be kicked out of the military, but out of the Republican Party as well.
Yes, we had the Muslims for Bush, & Muslims for McCain groups - BUT SCREW-EM - KICK ALL MUSLIMS OUT!!
The GOP works best & closest to God when its members are White Christians!!
DillonX 2 years ago
would you then include the muslims in the democratic party? Obama for instance?
whynotflip 2 years ago
"The GOP works best & closest to God when its members are White Christians!!"
How about old, white, rich, male Christians? Except for the rich part, that's pretty much the current GOP demographic. Now, if we could just educate the deluded, working class Republicans...
mistergarth 2 years ago
Talk about being "deluded."
StinkingHombre 2 years ago
Rag heads in the Army,what a fucking waste of time
They are nearly as useless, as the stinking nigger slime
Niggers,Spic's,Arabs,Asians and the Jews
all impossible to train,& that ain't new news
All the US military should be only white,
then we'll have only just enough to fight
Just to protect our own country & only the USA
without all the Arabs,niggers,Asians,Indians,Gays and Jews- getting in the fucking way
TheHauptsturmfuhrer 2 years ago
haha you sad, sad man
purdyflywhteguy 2 years ago
Interesting. TYT using censorship? What happened with my earlier comments?
nesianboy 2 years ago
Religions taken literally lead to violence.
Meejoe27 2 years ago
Thomas Jefferson warned us about Islam. Remember that little problem in Tripoli (The Marine Corps sure as hell does.) So we have been lied to by Islam for all that time but what we need to do is take another step back??? The thought process that proclaims that as the American way is, haphazard and at threat to our security (world wide.) How long before we finally take a step forward for the security of our nation? Islam has no requirement to be truthful to those seen as infidel.
TheShrinkRap 2 years ago
Good point TheShrinkRap,
It's provided for muslims in the Koran to LIE and DECEIVE if it's towards infidels ... no wonder all these gullible LIBITARDS are fooled so easily .. LOL
JMehrman 2 years ago
Idiot.
upabittoolate 2 years ago
Go to bed...
TheShrinkRap 2 years ago
Read Sura #9
Muslims world wide support the Koran as the absolute truth, purity of truth, and the distillation of truth over time. Which is of course why they constantly change it???
Doh...
TheShrinkRap 2 years ago
TheShrinkRap..... "Islam has no requirement to be truthful to those seen as infidel."
That's how Oblama got in. He's a muslime and lied the whole time. I've never seen such a pathological liar as Oblama. He even beats Clinton, hands down.
Zile77 2 years ago
For your hallucinations and you inability to understand the presidential election process. I would suggest Prozac. Takes the edge off...
Just for the hell of it try judging the man by his accomplishments not his color. You do bring up an interesting point though. I presume your intense hatred of liars also applies to George W. Bush. For that matter every politician that has ever held office anywhere and at anytime.
TheShrinkRap 2 years ago
That's idiotic. Jefferson warned against zealotry of ALL types.
upabittoolate 2 years ago
I think if you review the circumstances you will see that TJ was specific in regard to the Muslim faith's inability to distinguish the truth. They had no envoy capability, no actual experience in dealing with diplomatic process and a instant mistrust of a people they never met. They almost went to war with themselves trying to determine who would speak for them. You do remember the final act in that play...
TheShrinkRap 2 years ago
TYT- Did you do an "islam-o-meter" for 9/11? I won't defend a christian who kills, but have you done a video regarding the 9/11 Islam extremists?
veriteez 2 years ago
conservatives love war and violence and they hate sex and pot , lol
torkerbmx 2 years ago 2
Pulled that out of your ass did you torkerbmx?
JMehrman 2 years ago
Conservatives like sex, but it has to be in a highway rest stop or with kids for them to love it.
BeatDownReligion 2 years ago
ahahahahahahahahaha so true like Larry Bathroom Craig i bet his wife tasted dick on his breath
torkerbmx 2 years ago
ever notice how the most sexually ignored and repressed people in the world are also the most violent?
FLASHMAN1973 2 years ago
right wing people were the same people who were snitches in high school and hung out with the principle
torkerbmx 2 years ago
You're so funny!
JMehrman 2 years ago
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RappingIsThePriority 2 years ago
Pot heads and RETARDS seem to be drawn to TYT like flies to SHIT!
LOL
JMehrman 2 years ago
I guess you would know
kerasea 2 years ago
I would interject that pot heads come from all walks of life. From monarchy, presidents, judges, police officers, doctors, etc. I have met some very interesting pot heads.
nesianboy 2 years ago
I take it you're the latter.
BeatDownReligion 2 years ago
The more devout a Christian is, the more of a threat he/she is to the Nation. This is because devout Christians can't wait for their desert god to come back and destroy the whole f#@king world. They work toward this end. How is that less dangerous than some devout muslim.
Religion Poisons Everything! Grow up humans! Ditch your stupid gods!
bfirepllc 2 years ago 2
Religion is going to be the death of us all. Keep beating it down because we need all the common sense we can get.
BeatDownReligion 2 years ago
The Fat Turks is more like it, and btw you sold out to the corporations with the adds you fucking losers.
primusfeces 2 years ago
Can we at least discriminate against those who claim they are Muslim before American???
If not what the hell are we doing?
LooseLatitude 2 years ago
LoL, dumbass.
Lateral thinking isnt what youre best at I bet...
Lobos222 2 years ago
What? Did you get that from some book in the self-help aisle at the local Barnes and Noble?
We have a monumental problem and you bring up different ways to think about it. Not how to address the issue but how to think. You know what you should also present a new method of speak while you're at it.
:shaking head in amazement:
LooseLatitude 2 years ago
"...you should also present a new method of speak while..."
Youre criticizing my grammar? LoL.
Comparably, your statement probably came from the book Mein Kampf you Nazi.
Lobos222 2 years ago
Grammar was not what I was critiquing smart one. Reread the comment. If you still come to the same conclusion than comprehension skills is what you need to work on.
Nazi??? Childish.
LooseLatitude 2 years ago
All 3 World Trade Center buildings were controlled demolition jobs. The war on terror is a scam to invade other countries.
Heatherinthebuff 2 years ago
this channel is a joke!
PatricksTime 2 years ago
Fuck Muslims!
utubefavorsdems 2 years ago
Cenk probably jerks it to the videos of 9/11 while yelling Allah Ackbar
badgerdog6 2 years ago
Tell me somebody ,
how many incidents of US muslim soldiers should be allowed to open fire on thier fellow soldiers ?
What is the acceptable number US soldiers that are allowed to be killed by an American muslim soldiers ?
FIXEDBAYONETS 2 years ago
@fearequalsrespect
you are so ignorant and rude!
TheCyoruk 2 years ago
If the shoe fits ... WEAR IT!!
JMehrman 2 years ago
No MORON ... the fact that Islam as a whole stands idly by while MILLIONS of muslims dream eagerly of the day they can commit a violent murderous jihaad, and how proud their family and community would be if they did so, the honor he/she would bring them ...
This is why he analyzes the issue the way he does. Don't blame us for the radical EVIL actions of muslim extremists!
The FT Hood shooting is a TERRIBLE muslim terrorist act .. we must watch ALL muslims now ... even more closely.
JMehrman 2 years ago
I have seen enough videos on youtube about where blackwater guys spraying bullets on civillians and us marines screaming and bombing.. WP reports 100 000 civillians slaughtered in Iraq.. NO SYMPATHY FOR US MILITARY WHATSOEVER
TheCyoruk 2 years ago 2
Muslims are the enemy; they are horrible disgusting people who use their "faith" as their out to kill. Timothy McVea didn't blow up the federal building because he was a Christian, but because he was anti-government and opposed taxes.
You stupid ass liberals need to wake up and realize the world is not made of cotton candy. Maybe when your wife is burning in a building for no other reason than she works at the World Trade Center, you would see things different. U make me sick
FearEqualsRespect 2 years ago
You are a moron! We live in the United States of Amnesia. We forget about the fucked up things we've done in other countries, especially the third world. Many millions died from our policies, hundreds of thousands from war.
The US is the biggest terrorist state in the world. It is considered to be the rogue state and is the biggest threat to world peace. American greed, arrogance and stupidity is very evident.
I guess people outside of the US aren't considered humans.
nesianboy 2 years ago 2
nesianboy,
I am against the federal government on many counts, but that doesn't mean I'll rush to protect muslim terrorists or the violent frequent trend in a particular culture or religion.
Do you wish harm and violence against Americans? Those soldiers did nothing to deserve the violent death they received and for what?!?! In praise of Allah, Hasan's jihaad?!
America itself is not the devil you make it out to be.
JMehrman 2 years ago
I don't wish harm or violence on anyone.
The US has been the super power of the past since WWII. Over 700 military bases in the world, do you not feel secure? Having the best military that the world has ever known, still not secure?
The US government has killed many leaders of Central and South America that were elected democratically. US overthrew Iran's democratic government. The Iraq war that has killed around a million Iraqis ON A LIE!
Now Afghanistan?! It proves my point.
nesianboy 2 years ago 2
It is a shame for anyone's life to be cut short from violence. Families are affected for life. Why isn't anyone showing the same compassion to the thousands that died in Iraq WHICH OUR GOVERNMENT KNOWINGLY LIED to us?
There are just enough "Christians" that want Muslims dead. Many soldiers that are "Christians" have killed. More Muslims have died in the hands of Christianity. Those Iraqis didn't deserve to die. For what? Profits of war? Oil? WMD?
nesianboy 2 years ago 2
You are purposely distorting the truth to deflate the HORRORS of muslim extremism.
Soldiers who happen to be Christian do not kill to praise God ... they do it, serving their country, protecting Americans abroad.
Remember, Iran (#1 state sponsor of terrorism world wide) calls Britain and America the "great satan" .... that Jews are dogs ...
Whenever these HORRIFIC acts are carried out ... liberals detract from the true significance or completely shifts the blame altogether.
JMehrman 2 years ago 2
First off, I don't believe in democrats or republicans. Their both bullshit!
I am stating the facts, the numbers, the realities. How can you compare the two? Its like comparing the power of Israel to Palestine. Three thousand dead soldiers compared to a million Iraqis. That isn't a distortion.
So when a soldier kills to protect his life, he doesn't ask help from God? When a muslim fighting the occupation and murder of his people, he doesn't ask Allah for help? Praise God for justice.
nesianboy 2 years ago
What do you call the CIA's involvement of Iran's overthrow of their democratic government? I'm sure that was against some international law. How about the assassinations of leaders in Central and South America? That isn't considered terrorism? The US has been terrorizing since Vietnam! We contributed to the Khmer Rouge who murdered millions of Cambodians. How about Angola?
Read a book. Iran is the number one state sponsor of terrorism. Our support of Israel is all rosy too huh?
nesianboy 2 years ago
Reagan's War on Drugs is the funniest thing ever! Drug money was used to fund operations in Latin America. Interesting how CIA is linked to drugs. Who introduced crack to the ghettos? Who is on the payroll from Afghanistan's opium trade? How did Karzai become President again? Who supplied Saddam weapons whom we accused of having WMD?
What do you have to say about these things? Don't try calling me a liberal or conservative. Obama is carrying out Bush's third term.
Wake up!
nesianboy 2 years ago
Look I agree ... the CIA among other government agencies overextended themselves but remember ... they used movements inside those countries already to achieve their objectives.
In other words .... the people of those countries wanted what the CIA had to offer as far as aid and support.
I don't condone ... but it takes two to tango.
JMehrman 2 years ago
Really? They wanted deaths and the CIA? Tell that to the victims. It is more like the puppets we put in power wanted us there. Look a bit deeper. There was too much going on there to not ask questions!
What has been happening in South America is a threat to the US. The countries and peoples are uniting against US influence. I wonder why?
Two to tango is easy when you have a puppet.
nesianboy 2 years ago
I guess you'll continue to look through an anti american lens, and I'll do the opposite.
I just wanted to point out fallacies and distortions I noticed in your arguments.
JMehrman 2 years ago
My disgust and disappointment comes from revelations of US foreign policy. It isn't anti-American, its humanity. What would you say if you were on the receiving end of US "diplomacy"?
I obviously got my information somewhere. Don't discredit it because it goes against your views. Question it, look into it is the least any person can do.
Its funny that ex-CIA and ex-military speaks out against the wars. They are very brave to put their lives on the line, even braver to speak.
nesianboy 2 years ago
You continue to IGNORE the truth to support your views ... at least I recognize both sides.
JMehrman 2 years ago
How is America specifically responsible for those supposed million?
The lancet study you're referring to is blown WAY out of proportion by almost a factor of 10 and was conducted by Hussein's cheif propagandist Riyadh Lafta, who also claimed the UN was responsible for what Sadam Hussein himself had done to his own civilians.
The source you site is a HUGE LIE.
Tell me ... how did these people die anyway?
JMehrman 2 years ago
How did they die? I don't know, I wasn't there. Why should I speculate? Ask the people that were shooting and dropping bombs.
Responsible that the US government lied to go to war! Al Qaeda, yes. Iraq, no! I say a million, you say some hundred thousand. Where is the value of life? We cry about three thousand soldiers, adults by the way. No compassion for the thousands of women and children? Did I say the war was based of a lie?
I guess all the experts are wrong including Chomsky.
nesianboy 2 years ago
American troops did NOT purposely gun down women and children ... save for an isolated incident, and it was DEEPLY tragic to be sure ... but as a whole .. any civilian casualties were not deliberate and resulted from BOTH sides fighting and you know it.
IRAQ is responsible for more civilian deaths than American forces.
JMehrman 2 years ago
It is impossible to know for sure. That situation is either you or me. Isolated incident, you mean Fallujah? Fallujah was as isolated as the torture of inmates in Bagram, Abu Grahib and Guantanamo. Its urban warfare. You'll shoot at anything that moves. They're all towelheads right?
What is tragic is all that destruction on a lie for profit and oil? HOW DO YOU RESOLVED THAT IN YOUR CONSCIENCE?
nesianboy 2 years ago
By the way, millions died through sanctions. Sanctions are always the answer. If that doesn't kill them, say they have WMD. Oh wait, Saddam changed from selling oil from US dollars to euros. Interesting. Iran did the same thing about a month ago. Predictable where that will lead.
nesianboy 2 years ago
So it's your belief Sadam Hussien and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad can be trusted with WMD's and/or BIO weapons?!
When they say Israel should wiped off the map or infidels should die or America is the "great satan"?!
IRAQ much like IRAN is today .. was a constant fear and worry for the surrounding countries for thousands of miles.
IRAQ much like IRAN treats it's citizens like SHIT. IRAQ treated it's citizens like lab rats. Iran shoots it's dissidents.
Keep things in context please!
JMehrman 2 years ago
First, be critical of mainstream news. Why did Eisenhower warn the public about the military industrial complex before leaving office? You not remember that? They have gotten powerful. How do you fool the masses into supporting A LIE? They lied to us all!
We have people thinking of how to go to war! You have to be kidding me! There's a bill out there where they can arrest you for a crime you haven't committed. They can lock you up, no trial, no lawyers. ship you out. Doubt me?
nesianboy 2 years ago
You cannot blame those leaders for feeling the way they do. What would you do in their shoes? By the way, Ahmadinejad may be the president but he doesn't call the shots! The true leader of Iran is AGAINST nuclear weapons. It doesn't help that we support Israel in everything they do. Their fellow Palestinians have suffered for many decades. Is that a coincidence?
It would be a great mistake for any country in the middle east to attack Israel, unless provoked by Israel.
nesianboy 2 years ago
Its really hard to express yourself on here with the limits.
Every action the US takes, it cements the Middle East views of the US. From the overthrow of Iran's democracy, support for Saddam, false war with Iraq, support of the Taliban and Osama, our stance on Israel, to Afghanistan. I'm missing some but you get the point.
Who really has WMD in that region? Really. Nuclear weapons are being used to defend themselves of the US. Looks like our priorities were screwed.
nesianboy 2 years ago
Complex problems indeed.
One thing I'm sure of ... Iran and North Korea have threatened genocide at least a few times publicly this year alone ... I for one think it deserves the world's attention first and foremost.
JMehrman 2 years ago
Like I said twice before, I do not condone or support the federal government on many levels.
I too question mainstream news including MSNBC and FOX ... two networks diametrically opposed ...while there is no doubt, profits to made in war ... the cause leading into all of them are noble and just. Even the most extreme left supported the IRAQ invasion ..
Oh and yes .. I have heard that they can detain terrorists indefinitely .. disturbing indeed.
JMehrman 2 years ago
Get beyond democrats and republicans if you want to get to the truth. They are same. They don't serve the people, they serve the elite and corporations. Look who Obama filled his cabinet with. Obama hasn't done anything opposite of Bush that is significant. I am talking about where it matters.
I don't share the idea that the causes were noble and just. There are better ways of spreading democracy.
Our presence there is for more reasons than oil, pipeline, opium, freedom, or anything.
nesianboy 2 years ago
True ... left/right is really two heads of the same beast. Thusly, I am against the federal government on many levels. I agree with you there nesianboy ... the only thing I don't jive with is RADICAL JIHAADISTS wanting to kill or convert me either!
The BLOODY massacre perpetrated by Hasan is yet another reason for Americans to take a second look at extreme pockets of muslim body politic.
JMehrman 2 years ago
"the cause leading to all wars are noble and just " says JMehrman. Really ?? wow,you have a diluted and ignorant view of history.
kerasea 2 years ago
Let me rephrase ... AMERICA's place in all wars are noble and just .. ; )
You know I'm right! lol
JMehrman 2 years ago
The government doesn't give a damn about the people living IN the US either. As long as a dollar can be made, they can justify every fucked up thing they do.
BeatDownReligion 2 years ago
RELIGION IS THE ENEMY; horrible disgusting people use thier "faith" as an out to kill. muslims are not the only extremists in the world.
You stupid ass conservatives need to wake up and realise that your narrow view of the world is self destructive. Maybe when your daughter is bleeding to death on a sidewalk for no other reason than she needed an abortion to save her life, you would see things differently. U make me sick
madmoddersparkler 2 years ago
Notice how the conservative extremists don't like to be identified along with muslim extremists. All these religious assholes are carbon copies of each other, thinking everyone else's fake god is better than the next. chrisitan, muslim, whatever, they're all a bunch of mentally ill assholes making the rest of us miserable.
BeatDownReligion 2 years ago
The difference is that radical christians try to pass legislation to prevent gays from getting married. Radical muslims kill people
aggiefitz 2 years ago
christians have killed more people in the name of their religion than any other cult in history. Stomping on gay peoples rights is just one of the many fucked up things they do in this country.
BeatDownReligion 2 years ago 3
Any sources to back that up or are you just talking out your ass because hating religion is what all the cool kids do?
aggiefitz 2 years ago
Sources? You're kidding me right? Read a fucking history book jackass. And I don't have to try to be cool anymore, I'm 60 years old you imbecile. Kids aren't the only ones to know that religion is bullshit and only a moron would be involved in it.
BeatDownReligion 2 years ago
So other than the Spanish Inquisition, can you name just one mass murder fought in the name of Christ, and Christ alone?
Wow, 60 years old and nothing better to do than make a youtube account called "BeatDownReligion"?
One would assume from your sophomoric attitude that you are no older than about 15
aggiefitz 2 years ago
The only one here that's sophomoric is the person who follows a Bronze Age myth that is not only a total crock of lies, but is responsible for most of the worlds problems. Between you assholes and the muslims you have managed to make the world intolerable for the rest of us. Please do yourself a favor, and kill yourself. jebus is waiting for you.
BeatDownReligion 2 years ago
GO ahead and keep telling yourself that the most hateful ones are the religions while you suggest we all kill ourselves. Grow up kid, you need a new hobby
aggiefitz 2 years ago
If you're calling me a kid you must be at least 75. As for killing yourself, please, do. And take your family with you too since we don't want your kind to propagate. I've had a lifetime of you ignorant cocksuckers telling me I'm going to hell for not believing your horseshit, and if that isn't hateful enough then I don't know what is. I don't want an eternity of suffering for you. I just want you dead and gone. You can pretend you're going somewhere other than in the ground if you want.
BeatDownReligion 2 years ago
Great job showing us hateful christians how to be good people!
aggiefitz 2 years ago
@BeatDownReligion I'm with you on that religion ruining the world thing. It also teaches people not to think and believe whatever they are told. AAAAAAAA
jesusisbling 2 years ago
Now if we could just convince the other 92 percent of the idiots in this country we'd have a whole new outlook on our future. Notice the guy above your post still can't get with the program that I'm an old guy. I guess he thinks you have to be young to hate religion! If you still believe that shit at my age there's no hope left for you!
BeatDownReligion 2 years ago
Well slavery was justified by the religion, the KKK and many other skinhead type groups used the bible as there justification for the murder of minorties, the whole point is any religion can be twisted to justifie horrible things people do, the Yates lady killed all her kids becuase she thought they would go to hell if she didn't take them out before it was too late.
TheDalinkwent 2 years ago 10
5 stars to you.
utubefavorsdems 2 years ago