Hey Lloyd, perhaps you could remove the "UFO Hunters 303 The Greys Conspiracy 2009" video link from your "Starchild Skull's Eyes" page. It contaminates the neutrality and objectivity of your website, and could very likely impute the wrong intentions by inserting something that is too subjective and inconclusive. Sure it may be related and interesting, but it may severely compromise your website's intention as being biased towards this 'grey conspiracy'. Just for your consideration.
@creamie123 Oh sorry, I just watched it. Didn't know that the Starchild skull was featured in it. You could put in an additional description to clear all misunderstanding.
@creamie123 : Yes, I see your point, but most people don't seem to have the high degree of filter on these kinds of things that you do. Technically, you're correct, but I think most people understand I'm not voting for or against the gray conspiracy by being in that show. I had nothing to do with how it was titled.
@OfficialLloydPye Yep, while you have good intentions, it is unfortunate at times that one does not have full control over one's works. Some people jump to conclusions very quickly by skipping all the necessary logical sequences in-between by imparting the wrong intentions to others, like how a college professor's words can be skewed by someone else in an attempt to support a particular political viewpoint. Sometimes, the need for sensationalism on certain channels (well, I'm a bit cautious ...
@creamie123 ... towards certain channels like Discovery, which has recently sullied its reputation by uploading shows like "Lost Files", which was seemingly just an act instead of an actual enactment) can corrupt the originality of certain findings in the sense that it distorts the connotative and inter-subjective nature of its motive. I am not pointing fingers at anyone, but one of the narrators of the show seemed to be relatively fixated on his belief that aliens exist, by extenuating the ...
@creamie123 ... rather inconclusive 'evidence' that aliens were found on ancient sculptures and engravings even though this normally presented a large leap of faith instead of pure logical inquiry. If he had directed the show individually, having you right in the show might just have offered an opportunity for him to directly jump to certain unproven conclusions such as "Starchild was 1/16th grey etc." Fortunately, the other narrator was meticulous enough to avoid such logical pitfalls and ...
@creamie123 ... avoid the potential issue of putting words into your mouth. Well, it can happen, and even if it does not, it is in my belief that quite a lot of people will misinterpret your intentions just from the pacing and juxtaposition of your presence within a 'grey conspiracy' show. You are certainly right about the lack of 'filters' by most people, but I am concerned that disavowing of having had anything to do with it just isn't sufficient, because of the powerlessness over one's ...
@creamie123 ... work in face of the overwhelming presence of the media and other interpreters. Despite that, you have done great so far in maintaining the integrity and neutrality of your findings through the presentation and outline of your website, and your meticulousness is enviable. It is just in my opinion that that particular page that I have pinpointed presents itself as a vulnerable spot that could lead to the wrong kinds of responses. It's your own website of course; just a suggestion.
@creamie123 Hmmm ... upon further scrutiny, I think it's mainly the front part of the video along with the fact that it is titled the "Grey Conspiracy" that is the issue. The back portion was quite informative and it would be uneconomical to remove the video. I do not purport to have any authority on designing a website to meet standards. I think you have the autonomy to handle this. While it's a small issue, the thought that there may be thousands of future subscribers magnifies the issue.
@simplystimpy : True enough, but nothing else would tell us nearly as much as the skull does, so of all the bones we could have, we have the best one.
Thanks, Ben. Much appreciated! Glad you liked the show. It's now available as a free download for anyone who wants it.
Amish: I think the Starchild was NOT Anunnaki, though possibly an Igigi, the ones who did certain work. I don't think the Starchild could have mated with a human. It is simply too far from human in the parts we can measure at this point. The DNA will confirm that, I'm sure.
The reason I ask is because I'm under the belief that the Anunaki were able to reproduce with humans at will most likely because we were produce from their DNA. If the Starchild only had human mitochondrial DNA but mostly alien DNA and could not procreate with humans, then it must have not been an Anunaki? Maybe another species from yet another planet than Nibiru?
Amishmix: No, I don't see any way it could have been the result of a sexual union. It is almost certainly the result of genetic engineering and in vitro fertilization. There is simply nothing of the human part of the equation visible in its skull, but there IS a human quotient in its mitochondrial DNA. Thus, the mother is there, she carried it to term, but she had very little role in how it was physically constructed. That lack of Mom's influence screams out genetic engineering. Okay?
Lloyd, I think I may have confused you with my question. I know the Starchild was most likely an implantation into a human mother. What I meant was could the Starchild have reproduced with another human and had offspring?
@OfficialLloydPye If it's a female, then there is nothing else than mtDNA since females don't inherhit other than mothers DNA. Could this child not just be a malformed ?
@OZDE32 : Males and females have both mtDNA and nuDNA, so both are there to recover, which our geneticist has done recently. In a week or so we'll be posting the latest DNA results that will show beyond doubt that it's not just a malformed human child. Okay?
@OZDE32 : You need to do some very basic research into this. ALL of us have the sum total of the DNA that our parents pass on to us in nearly every cell in our bodies. The only real difference is in the sex cells we inherit, with females having XX and males having X and Y chromosomes. Otherwise, we all carry very similar genomic packages.
Correction on my part. After reading your ebook I realized the Starchild did reach maturity making it even more remarkable to me. But could it have reproduced with a human?
Lloyd, if the Starchild would have been lucky enough to live to maturity, would there have been any chance it could have reproduced with a human? I guess not since you mentioned it is barely human if human at all.
That's the beauty of the DNA test we need to do. We can film every step of it, and to sabotage it is impossible. It will say what it will say and that will be that, up or down, win or lose. We can actually finally WIN one of the contests with scientists because we really DO have the facts on our side this time. Try to relax about it.
454 can pick up base pairs. If it records a staggering number of them relative to humans, I think it will be safe to look at the idea that maybe more than two strands of DNA are involved.
just be careful that no one tries to sabotage the the tests or tampers with the results or dose anything to effect the outcome... be extra vigilant about everything! At the end of the day, it's your money that your spending on this so i guess no one has to warn you... Keep an eye out for suspicious looking people and do background checks to make sure they are whom they say they are!
Hi Lloyd, I'm just twiddling my thumbs waiting for this to be resolved so I may come up with some truly ridiculous ideas.I anticipate SC will be truly unique and will be the key that opens the ufo Pandora's Box.
If the father has triple strand dna would 454 technology pick it up?
Listen, everyone, relax. The Starchild is NOT human, and in point of fact it will turn out to be BARELY human. It had a mother that carried it to term, but it was an in-vitro fertilization that will turn out to have very little human DNA in it, and maybe not any. Maybe only a human mother's egg was used, thereby providing the mitochondrial DNA. That is quite possible. Let's just wait for the DNA test to tell us, but in the meantime, try to relax...it's NOT human.
I have a feelings many folks are going to suffer from belief perseverance once this has been established as unique.
We should worry because if it IS completely human I feel sorry for the folks who might suffer from this disease and I'd want to know if I carried it or not.
Confirmational bias doesn't mean squat once a DNA sample is turned over to the 454 Life Science machines. They'll say what they'll say and that's it---up or down, yea or nay, like it or not. So nobody's DESIRE for the outcome has any impact at all, which scientists understand perfectly. That's why they DON'T WANT the 454 test conducted, because of the turmoil it will bring to their lives and careers. It's as simple, but as deadly serious, as that. The Starchild means Trouble with a capital "T".
I don't see why, I thought it would have been rather obvious at this point that humans are not alone and have been visited countless times... to even say that aliens don't exist would be very egocentric and quit frankly I find those people who do, arrogant... Don't see why the scientists have to loose their jobs over a fossil! their just dealing with the facts like their supposed to...
the good thing is that this needs to be explored, the bad thing is that they WANT it to be an alien hybrid, in other words confirmational bias may be an issue
Hey Lloyd, perhaps you could remove the "UFO Hunters 303 The Greys Conspiracy 2009" video link from your "Starchild Skull's Eyes" page. It contaminates the neutrality and objectivity of your website, and could very likely impute the wrong intentions by inserting something that is too subjective and inconclusive. Sure it may be related and interesting, but it may severely compromise your website's intention as being biased towards this 'grey conspiracy'. Just for your consideration.
creamie123 1 month ago
@creamie123 Oh sorry, I just watched it. Didn't know that the Starchild skull was featured in it. You could put in an additional description to clear all misunderstanding.
creamie123 1 month ago
@creamie123 : Yes, I see your point, but most people don't seem to have the high degree of filter on these kinds of things that you do. Technically, you're correct, but I think most people understand I'm not voting for or against the gray conspiracy by being in that show. I had nothing to do with how it was titled.
OfficialLloydPye 1 month ago
@OfficialLloydPye Yep, while you have good intentions, it is unfortunate at times that one does not have full control over one's works. Some people jump to conclusions very quickly by skipping all the necessary logical sequences in-between by imparting the wrong intentions to others, like how a college professor's words can be skewed by someone else in an attempt to support a particular political viewpoint. Sometimes, the need for sensationalism on certain channels (well, I'm a bit cautious ...
creamie123 1 month ago
@creamie123 ... towards certain channels like Discovery, which has recently sullied its reputation by uploading shows like "Lost Files", which was seemingly just an act instead of an actual enactment) can corrupt the originality of certain findings in the sense that it distorts the connotative and inter-subjective nature of its motive. I am not pointing fingers at anyone, but one of the narrators of the show seemed to be relatively fixated on his belief that aliens exist, by extenuating the ...
creamie123 1 month ago
@creamie123 ... rather inconclusive 'evidence' that aliens were found on ancient sculptures and engravings even though this normally presented a large leap of faith instead of pure logical inquiry. If he had directed the show individually, having you right in the show might just have offered an opportunity for him to directly jump to certain unproven conclusions such as "Starchild was 1/16th grey etc." Fortunately, the other narrator was meticulous enough to avoid such logical pitfalls and ...
creamie123 1 month ago
@creamie123 ... avoid the potential issue of putting words into your mouth. Well, it can happen, and even if it does not, it is in my belief that quite a lot of people will misinterpret your intentions just from the pacing and juxtaposition of your presence within a 'grey conspiracy' show. You are certainly right about the lack of 'filters' by most people, but I am concerned that disavowing of having had anything to do with it just isn't sufficient, because of the powerlessness over one's ...
creamie123 1 month ago
@creamie123 ... work in face of the overwhelming presence of the media and other interpreters. Despite that, you have done great so far in maintaining the integrity and neutrality of your findings through the presentation and outline of your website, and your meticulousness is enviable. It is just in my opinion that that particular page that I have pinpointed presents itself as a vulnerable spot that could lead to the wrong kinds of responses. It's your own website of course; just a suggestion.
creamie123 1 month ago
@creamie123 Hmmm ... upon further scrutiny, I think it's mainly the front part of the video along with the fact that it is titled the "Grey Conspiracy" that is the issue. The back portion was quite informative and it would be uneconomical to remove the video. I do not purport to have any authority on designing a website to meet standards. I think you have the autonomy to handle this. While it's a small issue, the thought that there may be thousands of future subscribers magnifies the issue.
creamie123 1 month ago
If only we had the rest of the skeleton. That would tell so much.
simplystimpy 1 year ago
@simplystimpy : True enough, but nothing else would tell us nearly as much as the skull does, so of all the bones we could have, we have the best one.
OfficialLloydPye 1 year ago
Thanks, Ben. Much appreciated! Glad you liked the show. It's now available as a free download for anyone who wants it.
Amish: I think the Starchild was NOT Anunnaki, though possibly an Igigi, the ones who did certain work. I don't think the Starchild could have mated with a human. It is simply too far from human in the parts we can measure at this point. The DNA will confirm that, I'm sure.
OfficialLloydPye 2 years ago
I saw you live in Nottingham a couple of months ago, Lloyd. Very interesting stuff indeed.
benthejrporter 2 years ago
The reason I ask is because I'm under the belief that the Anunaki were able to reproduce with humans at will most likely because we were produce from their DNA. If the Starchild only had human mitochondrial DNA but mostly alien DNA and could not procreate with humans, then it must have not been an Anunaki? Maybe another species from yet another planet than Nibiru?
amishmix 2 years ago
Amishmix: No, I don't see any way it could have been the result of a sexual union. It is almost certainly the result of genetic engineering and in vitro fertilization. There is simply nothing of the human part of the equation visible in its skull, but there IS a human quotient in its mitochondrial DNA. Thus, the mother is there, she carried it to term, but she had very little role in how it was physically constructed. That lack of Mom's influence screams out genetic engineering. Okay?
OfficialLloydPye 2 years ago
Lloyd, I think I may have confused you with my question. I know the Starchild was most likely an implantation into a human mother. What I meant was could the Starchild have reproduced with another human and had offspring?
amishmix 2 years ago
@OfficialLloydPye If it's a female, then there is nothing else than mtDNA since females don't inherhit other than mothers DNA. Could this child not just be a malformed ?
OZDE32 11 months ago
@OZDE32 : Males and females have both mtDNA and nuDNA, so both are there to recover, which our geneticist has done recently. In a week or so we'll be posting the latest DNA results that will show beyond doubt that it's not just a malformed human child. Okay?
OfficialLloydPye 11 months ago
@OfficialLloydPye ok, but how can one get genetical info about the father from a female skeleton? a female does not inherit y-dna
OZDE32 11 months ago
@OZDE32 : You need to do some very basic research into this. ALL of us have the sum total of the DNA that our parents pass on to us in nearly every cell in our bodies. The only real difference is in the sex cells we inherit, with females having XX and males having X and Y chromosomes. Otherwise, we all carry very similar genomic packages.
OfficialLloydPye 11 months ago
@OfficialLloydPye Okay thanks, now i'm a bit wiser
OZDE32 11 months ago
Correction on my part. After reading your ebook I realized the Starchild did reach maturity making it even more remarkable to me. But could it have reproduced with a human?
amishmix 2 years ago
Lloyd, if the Starchild would have been lucky enough to live to maturity, would there have been any chance it could have reproduced with a human? I guess not since you mentioned it is barely human if human at all.
amishmix 2 years ago
That's the beauty of the DNA test we need to do. We can film every step of it, and to sabotage it is impossible. It will say what it will say and that will be that, up or down, win or lose. We can actually finally WIN one of the contests with scientists because we really DO have the facts on our side this time. Try to relax about it.
OfficialLloydPye 2 years ago
454 can pick up base pairs. If it records a staggering number of them relative to humans, I think it will be safe to look at the idea that maybe more than two strands of DNA are involved.
OfficialLloydPye 2 years ago
just be careful that no one tries to sabotage the the tests or tampers with the results or dose anything to effect the outcome... be extra vigilant about everything! At the end of the day, it's your money that your spending on this so i guess no one has to warn you... Keep an eye out for suspicious looking people and do background checks to make sure they are whom they say they are!
XXTheRealMcCoyXX 2 years ago
Hi Lloyd, I'm just twiddling my thumbs waiting for this to be resolved so I may come up with some truly ridiculous ideas.I anticipate SC will be truly unique and will be the key that opens the ufo Pandora's Box.
If the father has triple strand dna would 454 technology pick it up?
bottleslingguy 2 years ago
Listen, everyone, relax. The Starchild is NOT human, and in point of fact it will turn out to be BARELY human. It had a mother that carried it to term, but it was an in-vitro fertilization that will turn out to have very little human DNA in it, and maybe not any. Maybe only a human mother's egg was used, thereby providing the mitochondrial DNA. That is quite possible. Let's just wait for the DNA test to tell us, but in the meantime, try to relax...it's NOT human.
OfficialLloydPye 2 years ago
I have a feelings many folks are going to suffer from belief perseverance once this has been established as unique.
We should worry because if it IS completely human I feel sorry for the folks who might suffer from this disease and I'd want to know if I carried it or not.
bottleslingguy 2 years ago
Confirmational bias doesn't mean squat once a DNA sample is turned over to the 454 Life Science machines. They'll say what they'll say and that's it---up or down, yea or nay, like it or not. So nobody's DESIRE for the outcome has any impact at all, which scientists understand perfectly. That's why they DON'T WANT the 454 test conducted, because of the turmoil it will bring to their lives and careers. It's as simple, but as deadly serious, as that. The Starchild means Trouble with a capital "T".
OfficialLloydPye 2 years ago
I don't see why, I thought it would have been rather obvious at this point that humans are not alone and have been visited countless times... to even say that aliens don't exist would be very egocentric and quit frankly I find those people who do, arrogant... Don't see why the scientists have to loose their jobs over a fossil! their just dealing with the facts like their supposed to...
XXTheRealMcCoyXX 2 years ago
the good thing is that this needs to be explored, the bad thing is that they WANT it to be an alien hybrid, in other words confirmational bias may be an issue
goldgrif 2 years ago
have you had any luck finding out more about it's DNA through the other test protocalls?
XXTheRealMcCoyXX 2 years ago
It costs $200K USD to have a more comprehensive dna analysis done. That would pretty much end the debate.
bottleslingguy 2 years ago
You may have something here o.O
silversobe 2 years ago