Beware of the Collector's Coach and the Deangelis Brothers!

[nemo2000100]

After making many investment mistakes I know one thing for sure: do your home work, investigate, do your research before you give away your moneys...As you can see  information about these cons was on the internet for some time....

[FightingForSilver]

LOL God Bless America God Bless Everyone.

[SilverINVESTr]

I love your unboxing video @ 10:21

[elMONGOreal]

Nick, I'm sorry I criticized you before. You were RIGHT about this outfit & I was wrong! These guys have already had their 2nd chances … & 3rd &4th & 5th You nailed it!

[FightingForSilver]

@elMONGOreal Love you too:-)

[marc0987654321]

Sorry to hear about all of this. THANK YOU for sharing this information with all of us! We live in such a narcissistic, selfish society, that a lot of people in your shoes would just not let anyone else know. This is a huge benefit, and you should be commended for saving a whole lot of us tens of thousands of dollars, potentially, and stopping the damage from other new unsuspecting potential buyers. THANKS AGAIN ! ! ! ! !

[stellaconcepts]

i hope u dont mind me mirroring

[BookofNick]

@stellaconcepts Feel free

[stellaconcepts]

@BookofNick i found a comment where u were paying out on me for something pretty pathetic...cancelled the upload. ironically, you're seeing what a real scam looks like.

[BookofNick]

@stellaconcepts I'm not sure what you mean

[HappyHooker83]

@BookofNick Wow, you are my age (I was born in 1983) and, just like you, I have held many jobs. But, the only difference is I live in Cali and you moved/ now live in NY! LOL

[ShillBasher]

@stellaconcepts

Blimey.. you do seem to be all over this site at the mo' don't ya, mate, especialy considering what you said about quiting YT for a few months.

I can understand why you liked this one tho', John. I mean.... a YT vid producer who heavily promotes the values of holding physical silver and has links to sites that will then sell you physical silver! That just seems totaly dodgy, right?

Obviously we're all aware that you've always been @ the forefront of exposing YT scams. Lol

[stellaconcepts]

@ShillBasher what - not making vids means im not allowed to comment on any either?

[ShillBasher]

@stellaconcepts

Just going by what you said, mate. 'Taking time off from the tubes to clear my head', was that what you said?

BTW; Do you have a bipolar twin with a huge ego who knows your login details and who likes to prowl YT all day looking to see who's been talking about his brother, whilst avoiding all clearly made points and then never admiting he is wrong on anything... ever? lol

I'd have a word with him if I were you, mate. Or I could talk to him for you....? ; )

[stellaconcepts]

@ShillBasher watch?v=4UlZyuFiGks

[ShillBasher]

@stellaconcepts

Yaaawn... could ya give me a nudge when it's time to wake up. Ok.. I'm kidding.

Fair play if that's what your getting into at the mo', m8. It is rather relaxing to be fair (I am actualy being 100% straight with you here). I hope you find the peace you're obviously looking for and may it grant you the power to overcome whatever demons you need to slay. I'll leave you in peace. Maybe look me up when you're in touch with yourself. Skunk weed bongs may also help.

Take care.

[stellaconcepts]

@ShillBasher yea i need timeout dude... all a little too much for this frail human at times.

[ShillBasher]

@stellaconcepts

Here's a great line that a friend txtd to me the other day. It was part of a longer joke but I really liked this bit the best.

You may like it too:

Be carefull of the toes you step on today... they may be connected to the feet you have to kiss tomorrow.

[DNFmcX]

@ShillBasher True

[ksabin711]

Jack just kicked me off his channel for talking about his scam. I am going to dedicate my channel to exposing and going after these guys Michael T. DeAngelis needs to go back to jail..

[BookofNick]

Surprise! Jack has removed his self-incriminating video response to me. You can still see in on MrSilverMonk's channel here: watch?v=IsrJxJn1fE8&feature=fe­edu

[elMONGOreal]

Thanks, Nick, for letting me post my video response … of JUST the un-boxing part. I promise part 2 will follow soon, reserved JUST for the controversy and my best assessment.

[brown55061]

As soon as he came onto the YouTube world he was sooo bullish on the shiny stuff. Yet at the time was not selling anything. Once his credibility was up he started trying to make money. I smelled him coming from a mile away and never trusted anything he said. Sad that it has to come to this. We can't just have normal people trying to help eachother. Always trying to make a buck!

[mrsilvermonk]

Jack's response to this video is now set to private....hmmm does this mean that the youtube Sopranos AKA The Deangelis Family are rethinking things?

[TheAsfaloth]

@mrsilvermonk

I did wonder where the video went when I check tonight hmmm

[MsLovelyJanet]

What is wrong with what they "might" be doing? They are selling you "short" a contract to deliver silver at spot price. At best, they want to buy silver at lower prices and "cover" their short by delivering to you. So what if they get carried away and sell contracts "short" NAKED!! Other "big guys" are doing it everyday ;)

[mrsilvermonk]

Search Google for "Leland Gold Sonny DeAngelis".....it's seems to be all tied together ...BE CAREFUL WHO YOU GIVING YOUR PERSONAL CONTACT INFORMATION TO.....signing up for the chance to win one coin or a free news letter or e-book could end up costing you a lot of money.

[bkre8ive]

The corp info found at: nvsos(dot)gov. Search for "Silver Boxing Corp"



[mrsilvermonk]

@bkre8ive "SILVER DREAM BOXING CORP." Officers: TIMOTHY M DEANGELIS "SECOND WORLD INVESTORS LLC" Officers: JAMES DE ANGELIS

[hstone39]

This guy did a very good job exposing the fraud of silver dealers. This is why you should only buy from dealers that protect your gold and silver with insurance just in case something like this happens when you gold and silver is being shipped. People should make sure your gold and silver is fully insured for the amount that you paid for. Plus, people should know the law that it is a federal crime for someone to steal or tamper with your package when it is being shipped.

[hstone39]

@hstone39

The theif of your package can get some years in prison for stealing your package when they get caught. People should increase their security when their package is being shipped. I know now why my last package ended up not going to the right house. Thank God I did recieve my coins but now I know what to do the next time I decide to purchase more coins. BookofNick this is a fantastic video that everybody should see before they purchase gold or silver again.

[hstone39]

@hstone39

Please everybody make sure the company you buy your gold and silver coin from have "Full Coverage Insurance" because we are starting to see fraud with the shipping process. Plus, it shouldn't take no more than 2 weeks for package to come to your house. People, watch out, be alert, and increase your security when buying gold and silver because this is a sign of things to come.

[elMONGOreal]

That said, I agree it is highly unusual to have to wait so long after payment is received to get silver from Silver Dreams Boxing Corp. That is who I made the check out to. I don't buy out of 'greed', as someone suggested of customers; but, because I thought it was a fair price for a smallish bag of 90%. I'm promised 4 weeks. I'll let you know how it goes. But I consider that separate from Jack DeAngelis and his show. All I know is that the sponsor gives away silver dollars, nightly.

[elMONGOreal]

I really cringe at hearing all this suspicion turned into CURRENT indictment. I had to listen to this again to be sure that you actually STATED: @2:00 "I got my silver, but … simply put, (they) are running a scam." Very sad even drutter is jumping on the defamatory bandwagon, seemingly with nothing but the old info … that Jack DeA openly acknowledged in his biographies. Sure wish you'd asked his side PERSONALLY beforehand, for the sake of credibility. IDK enough to judge.

[mrsilvermonk]

Has anyone ever read Jacks book on the Dinar ...remember he was pushing that stuff and had a form on his website "Learn how to open a bank account in Iraqi Dinar" that's another scam, for another day....but I think the last time Police arrested the DeAngelis brothers they seized $29,600, a laptop computer, checks for $1.9 million and $250,000, Iraqi money.

[1IIIIIIIIII1]

I REPORTED JACK TO THE BBB FOR NOT FOLLOWING THOUGH ON HIS 8 FREE ISSUES OF THE INTERNATIONAL FORECASTER. JACK REPLIED SAYING IT WAS AN OLD OFFER AND TAKEN DOWN FROM HIS SIGHT. I JUST LOOKED NOW APR 4 AND IT IS STILL THERE. BOB CHAPMAN IS STILL LISTED THERE EVEN THOUGH BOB SAYS HE WILL NOT BE BACK ON THE JACK SHOW. LOOKS LIKE JACK HAS HYJACKED BOB CHAPMAN AND GERALD CELENTE TO MAKE HIMSELF SEEM ON THE LEVEL.

[MsLovelyJanet]

@1IIIIIIIIII1 I subbed to the "4 free issues offer" of the international forecaster. I never got an issue from them. My emails asking about that went unanswered. I received a lot of sales calls from them. It is kinda of creepy. It was a trap to get information.

[mrsilvermonk]

@MsLovelyJanet I think people need to start asking the question, where is all the information that people fill out on his website is going??? What does The Collectors Coach do with all the information they receive from the people that sign up for news letters, free coin, e-books etc...who has All of our information and all of our personal contact details?? I don't know...maybe his Brothers!!! They must have a huge data base by now!

[1IIIIIIIIII1]

LOOKS LIKE THEY REALLY LOADED UP ON THE FREE GIFTS FOR YOU WHEN YOU SAID YOU WOULD OPEN THE BOX ON VIDEO.

[the51project]

I wasn't going to comment, as I don't deal with the CC, but I have watched some videos, and I watched this, and CC's response. What struck me was that Jack did not defend his brother's service as being totally legitamate - even thopugh it is advertised on the top of the CC website. All he said was 'not me' - interesting that he didn't seek to clarify that there was nothing untoward going on in his 'brother's' business!! And surprising. If there is nothing to worry about - why not rebuke this?

[IdigHistoryVideo]

@the51project I think its weird also, he has never once said their names. He only says my brother(s). Never uses their names. I find that weird. I have two siblings. I refer to them by their name. Saying, my "brother" implies any one of them. Just a curious observation that may mean nothing.

[goldcurrent1]

I guess this explains why they never accepted credit cards or Paypal via their website.

I'll admit, I always thought Jack seemed like a good person, I didn't know his history other than broadcasting and after hearing Bob Chapman on his program, I came very close to picking up the phone and placing an order myself. Thank god I went with another vendor that day and got my eagles delivered within a week. I hope all you guys get your silver from them eventually. If not, legal recourse if possible.

[MsLovelyJanet]

@goldcurrent1 Of course, 4-6 week window is perfect for end of the 60 days period when you can dispute your credit card transactions.

[hlgold5000]

great research. I'm 70 yrs old and have been in gold and silver markets since the mid 1970's. These DeAngelis Bros prey on the naive and wannabees. Same as Alex Jones and his silver and gold sponsers that hype "super deals" that wind up being retail plus costs to the public. Jim Sinclair, Richard Russell, and Hannes Tulving are the only ones anyone needs for good gold and silver advice.

[rightsideofhistory]

The efforts to impress you for a YouTube unboxing video is obvious. Good chess move in getting your silver quickly delivered. All they saw was the opportunity for the ultimate in testimonials to the most active bugs amongst us, I allege to lure more buyers to their ponzi - and you flipped it on them. I've never seen goodies chucked at a customer like that before - except in a ponzi. Otherwise the entire shipment was profitless. Just add up all the items compared to what you paid.

[mrsilvermonk]

Watch my video....more information on the Collector's Coach and the Deangelis Brothers!

[BookofNick]

@mrsilvermonk Thanks again for compiling this.

[the51project]

@mrsilvermonk ..... Just watched it - very good research on those companies and that SAME number...

[ytgv3fc7]

Bottom line is this is why I start with small purchases, I REQUIRE that paypal or credit card allow for reversal or voiding of a purchase and I WILL NOT do business with anyone who can not or will not do this, other than cash in hand coin in my face. I do not push any particular seller, no matter how big or small, in my channels or comments. I'm satisfied to answer a direct question if I got good delivery from one source or another. that's not pushy. Thanks for the info

[MorpheusWasRight]

you got your shipment and sound like your promoting the business? you got your order happy days

[gerryboy3699]

the political and banking system is now so corrupt that its just like a bunch of drug dealing criminals. Obama is just the "bag man" (the mug that carries the drugs and will get the blame if caught). What you find with bigtime criminals like the collectors coach family that get caught is they end up working for the government undercover in the same market sinking big players with gov approval. They can pull the same scam as before but now have no risk of jail.

[Macaframa1]

you could always just listen to jack when he has good guests on and learn a few things and buy your silver from somewhere else...

[Danette2007]

This video disgusts me. YOU sound like a pissed off little boy for not getting your stuff right away. What a drama queen.

[drutter]

Just saw his response. Hard to believe he admitted lying to the justice system to try to protect his thieving brother. Loyalty is a great thing, of course, but I don't think it excuses protecting someone who stole massive amounts of other people's money. Makes you wonder if he'd choose loyalty to friends, family, or business partners over the truth - again.

He's a personable character and good speaker, but I find that a lot of schemers are.

[BookofNick]

@drutter It has been my experience that blind loyalty to anything - family, friends, country - can be nothing but destructive. Loyalties ought to lie with truth and virtue. If your family and friends are truthful and virtuous, they earn your loyalty. If they are not, then supporting them is harmful to you and even more harmful to them. By supporting corruption, you perpetuate it. Thanks, Drutter.

[jimbobubbadj]

@BookofNick Agreed!

[elMONGOreal]

@drutter I don't mean to nit pick, but I listened; and, what I heard was that he shared the blame for not testifying against his brother. I don't know how you heard that he admitted lying. (?)

[joe222100]

his website link to his brother site guilty by freaking association he may not involve 15 years ago but i smelled bull shit from a mile

[KarlBrkr]

Yea your talking about his brothers. Seems Jack is just trying to give good advise. My advise is to just learn from Jack but buy from APMEX reputable broker.. Thanks for the heads up...

[BookofNick]

Hey guys Jack's response to me is here: watch?v=uHUFltci-Wo&feature=fe­edu

He admits to being a felon, admits to the past scams, but has the audacity to deny involvement! He says he has nothing to do with his brother's past or current silver business yet actively promotes him.

[mrsilvermonk]

@BookofNick He is actively promoting his brother on his website, both his site and his brothers site seem to have the same IP Address. Jack is a fast talking salesman, but how can he deny any involvement with his brother? They both have each others information plastered all over each others websites. I have a real bad feeling about these guys....THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP...it would really suck to have money tied up with them if they do the same scam again..........buyer beware.

[Macaframa1]

why don't you all go to the collector's coach website and watch his video response?

[mrsilvermonk]

FACT Jack is still LINKED to his Brothers, he is the pitch man...the salesman...his Website LINKs people to his brother to buy silver. After reading about the SCAMS they did in the past it's hard to trust them knowing they stole millions from people by selling silver and not delivering.

[cknugget]

@truthoverfacts: Now its you talking shit so I guess that says a lot about your man hood. I did not have to send him money to be scammed by Jack. He offered something he didnt have to give which is fraud!

[TruthOverFacts]

Hey Nick, you scream fraud yet got your silver. You scream that you didnt get your silver until you told them that you would to an vid on it but you NEVER stated whether that was after the 6 to 8 week window that you agreed to. You state that "a friend" said that people have been waiting for silver since december....which is hearsay. I dont understand. Now I dont know Jack, but you wasnt ripped off, your friend wasnt ripped off either, and the people you spoke of you didnt hear from yoruself.

[TruthOverFacts]

Hey Nick, you scream fraud yet got your silver. You scream that you didnt get your silver until you told them that you would to an vid on it but you NEVER stated whether that was after the 6 to 8 week window that you agreed to. You state that "a friend" said that people have been waiting for silver since december....which is hearsay. I dont understand. Now I dont know Jack, but you wasnt ripped off, your friend wasnt ripped off either, and the people you spoke of you didnt hear from yoruself.

[TruthOverFacts]

Hey Nick, you scream fraud yet got your silver. You scream that you didnt get your silver until you told them that you would to an vid on it....but you NEVER stated whether that was after the 6 to 8 week window that you agreed to. You state that "a friend" said that people have been waiting for silver since december....which is hearsay. I dont understand. Now I dont know Jack, but you wasnt ripped off, your friend wasnt ripped off either, and the people you spoke of you didnt hear from yoruself.

[cknugget]

I posted a 5 paragraph comment on his video response to this one you should check it out.

[TruthOverFacts]

@cknugget Funny how all of these "alleged" victims of Jack come out of nowhere. Funny how I havent heard from an ACTUAL victim of Jacks. How in the world do you have "5 paragraphs" of comments yet didnt send Jack a dime? I dont get it. No one here has proven a scam. You're just jumping on the bandwagon to talk shit....which isnt respectable by men.

[cknugget]

I have followed Jack for some time. I used to believe in his bull shit. Lucky for me I never actually sent him any money but boy did he try to get it. He used to play these trivia. games he would give away free iraq dinar or vietnam dong or even free silver. I won many trivia questions but guess what no prizes for me only his people calling me trying to get me to buy foreign currency. scammer indeed!.

[elMONGOreal]

Man, I think it's messed up that you were all like Rockford Files on this info like it was a deep, dark secret … when Jack WROTE ALL ABOUT IT in his book(s). Dude, come on … you didn't buy from Jack DeAngelis, anyway, you bought from his brother; and, it looks like you had regrets and got scared … because you really aren't exposing anything. Looked to me like you actually got more than you paid for. The rest looks a whole lot like WORRY. You really shouldn't block Jack from responding

[SuperEye2eye]

All I can say is scam or not...what the hell Is anyone buying silver from shady joints like this. This is why Nigeria is still sending millions of daily emails. Gullable people everywhere.  Sometimes lifes lessons are hard.

[Macaframa1]

if you guys want to watch jack's response to this video put this in /watch?v=uHUFltci-Wo or search for "ok ,my responce to nicky boys video" on The Collector's Coach channel.

[mandrlane]

Have you spoken to coach? would seem wise to get all sides of a story. I have been following him for a while on youtube... I have never heard him pitch anything or ask for any money.

Have you?

Not saying it can't be true... but just watched your whole video and saw no proof of a scam.

You got your silver in the time they specified

[mandrlane]

OK... so you bought silver at a good price... received it... plus a bunch of great other stuff..

Then proceed to make a video trashing their character.

Interesting...

[CaptainEggbert]

Please don't pass hasty judgement on Davincij15 and endlessmountain. They seem like genuinely decent guys who just stumbled into this mess. At least let's hear them out now that they know the score.

[MrSilverovergold]

Nick! I bought silver from them, started to get suspicious and used the EXACT same tactics you did to get my silver! Thanks for the video!

[TheSilverGuild]

Just tell FightingforSilver you’re going to do a YouTube unboxing and you get all the extras thrown in for free. looks like a big lick ass to me

[Jahkillian]

Im sorry what exactly is the scam? Did you get what you've paid for ? Maybe you're friend that hasn't received his coins should make a video?

I do have to admit, it would be a shitty scam if they didn't deliver.

[PoorManStand]

What scam? I really don't see it. So what if there is a long wait right now. There are long waits everywhere when buying silver. Jack seems like an honest guy. I really don't see the point of your video.

[DuvallSilver]

good work! thx for the heads up man!

[marniespeaks]

this was a good warning

lot of people catching on to silver and not sure who to trust

[TeMpTeK1]

Thanks for the heads up... However..just be careful how u present your info.. No matter your intentions there is a fine line between truth and defamation of character .. Alot of circumstantial evidence about family members that really says nothing about Jack and what he is doing today. Not defending anything or anyone but fairness.. just saying

[dol13fan]

The 6- 8 week wait was red flag enough for me. Even worse he emailed me back later that day and said now he could do it in 4 weeks? I was like no thanks...

[BookofNick]

@dol13fan Well, you followed your gut, and your gut was right. My gut wasn't working that day. All I heard was I was getting cheap silver.

[savgal1211]

Do Be careful. I appreciate this info. However they could sue you for slander ( maybe), not from the articles you cited, but accusing them of "Running a scam," Consider removing this, My Friend..

[lilbromarky1]

I loved how the box had a tshirt and a bunch of other shit in it, along with extra silver. BRIBETOWN BABY!!

[CaptainEggbert]

Thanks for bringing this information to light. It's a shame that the silver/gold market is cluttered with so many scammers. Every one needs to be careful.

[MrNeoAleus]

I have placed an order with Mike at FightingforSilver, approaching week 5-6 now and still waiting.

[freedomchix]

tkx for the info

[charlesfuchs]

I don't think im going to do an ALERT as of yet. I got my silver fine 2 months ago. I also did an un boxing video on my own, did not know that it would catch on and it did. Lets see what the YouTube community has to say.....

[jlmiller77]

they hooked you up... you should say you are doing that every time you order silver

[Seattle206723]

Then there was the video of giving away silver from the vault for donations. " I work in sales; Ive done door to door" Something was wrong with the picture.

[MrPointspread]

Im a fan of the Radio Show and I do think these lads have changed there life around. You can't Judge someone until you actually know them and where they have come from in the past. Jack has said on radio a while back that his one brother who passed away in his mid-30's was in very deep because of a gambling problem and he had Bookies looking for him and even made threats to his other members of his family for money they were owed. I think this is what led to his "shady past" Just my 2 cents!!!

[search4knowledge2000]

I listen to Jack's shows and YouTube videos. He seems like a nice guy. I will have to look into it for myself to see if him and his brothers have such a history.

[MUDSWAT]

Ummm,

How about this... They were in business they made good money but they foolishly blew it. So they got their punishment, went back into business again cause it was profitable and.... Now they are Currently doing legitimate business??

[seamoosey]

Have you ever heard of oakmont metals? They have a guy from oakmont on the show from time to time. Oakmont has a program where you can leverage a small amount of money to control a large amount of physical metal. It sounds like a total scam .

[dickstoyevsky]

Offering eagles at 32.50 and you thought they were real? Who would do that? Don't be stupid.

[MrRhinosilver]

Im not buying from them thats for sure. Past performance is is a good indicator of future behavior.

[futureworksexpress]

Jack DeAngelis is a good guy who got pulled into his two brother's antics. Everything you speak of is at least 15 years old news. Why would you buy from them now anyway when there is so many other options. Its messed up they got back into the same business they were running frauds in, but again this is way old news.

[BookofNick]

@futureworksexpress I think that what they did 15 years ago is VERY relevant to today. It is the same business. The same sales pitch. It will most likely end the same way this time around, too. Just giving people a heads up.

[futureworksexpress]

@BookofNick -- I tried to ask Jack for his side his reply on his channel --"the truth about jack De Angelis buy my books the whole truth about me and my family no secrets , if your interested.i am not hiding anything ,and i don't sell anything too anybody.i honor family friends and country.

there is no man or women who can say anything but.My story is in my books if you really need to know get the truth from my books" -- now im sketched he is trying to sell his books to explain his side? wow

[Macaframa1]

@futureworksexpress he has a video reply on his channel

[BigKidCountry]

Always beware of a salesmans advice. I say buy silver. And people ask 2 buy from me I tell them to get there own. Weird when a guy says you need silver and then sells u his

[yettiz420]

good job "i don't recommend you buy from them" lol kicked there ASS!

Hey YOU told them that you would do an un-boxing video and u did LOL

[silveristhenew]

I ordered a roll from them and received in about 6 weeks. During the course of those 6 weeks called Mike DeAngelis a number of times to verify my order was on its way. I have had nothing but good conversations with him and when I got my roll, he also gave me a number of extra goodies similar to what you received.

I even talked with him about his past business choices and from what I have experienced and what I can tell, Mike is trying damn hard to make amends by running a legit business.

[MisterSilverBug]

they sure gave u a lot of free stuff

[TheAsfaloth]

is Jack one of the brothers ?

[62636263c]

Possible fraud is close enough for me to steer clear. Thank you for passing this along. Whether or not they are running a scam again or not is beside the point. The point is that they are ex cons for doing this sort of thing in the past and should not fault you or anyone else for erring on the side of caution. By all rights, they should not be doing the same kind of business they were convicted of using to defraud people with in the past. A leopard and it's spots.

[chop98]

I have heard and read these same things. That being said... I have received several shipments from them in a timely manner along with free silver and a free Ron Paul book! I believe the lesson was learned from the aforementioned. Jack is a good guy and so is his brother Mike.

[Hyperborea2012]

@chop98 My dad served time in prison too. He's a nice guy. Do you have a room for rent?

[chop98]

@Hyperborea2012 I'm saying I've never had a problem with any dealings amongst them. They've always stood behind their word and did what they said they would. Why would I want to rent a room to your ex-con Dad?

[GOLDSILVERDUDE]

Why would anybody buy silver from some low life scumbags who run their own silver site. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Buy from APMEX, not some scumbag brothers ripping folks off.

[Luiyi385]

So the guy was an alcoholic and did a lot of bad things back then. Now he seems recovered and a completely new spirit.

[PontifexMagnanimous]

You have good integrity to do that video after receiving your coins. I know it must have been tough.

[zalida100]

Nice video Nick. (Not an easy one for you to do - I'm sure you researched your stuff to make sure you were correct.).

You've done what you think is right, and now people can make up their own minds. Well done mate.

[BillKville]

These guys raised my alarm whe the Madison Teacher Union protests/riots were happening. They posted a pro-union video that just rang alarm bells. I sent them a message stating why I was unsubscribing, to which they begged me to stay, and how good unions are. Funny thing is, as I'm reading their reply, FOX News was showing the union thugs storming the capital building. Ironic?

[mciarleglio]

i ordered 100 oz. way back and i received the 100 oz. 6 weeks later just like he said.

i think theyre legit now. it would be pretty dumb to do the same thing twice.

[charlesfuchs]

@mciarleglio Same here, got my order received.

[BlunderCity]

Interesting stuff although this story is a bit old don't you think? Did you say 1995? Could it be that they were crooks, learned their lesson and moved on to being respectable members of the community. I just don't know.

As for the Collector's Coach, I know a number of people here follow his radio show but I have never really found him to be insightful in any meaningful way, in fact I would say some of the things he says are a bit weird, but hey if that's his opinion, he's entitled to it.

[theeastwatch]

Never heard of these guys, but thanks much for the heads up.

Together we can find the truth.

-TEW

[slhines7]

So, are the coins that you received legit and did you get a fair market price on them? If they are legit, then I guess they changed their crooked ways? I think that they most likely served their time for the wrong doings from the past.

[BookofNick]

@slhines7 Yes, they are legit. I think the only reason I got them was because I was to mention them in my unboxing video. They hoped to get more people into their scam.

[slhines7]

@BookofNick Well, thank God! I hope that they are no longer running such scams anylonger and that everyone who orders from them now gets what they ordered.

[charlesfuchs]

@BookofNick Hey nick, whats up. I got my silver 2 months ago from them. I was the first one who did the unboxing video for them with out them asking. I just did it for kicks and i had no problems. Some people were being trolls and saying i was paid but I did it just to see how good they were. I might have to give them a call or we can bring the issue up on the show tomorrow night at the silver round table.

[bruno188home]

@BookofNick and sent you silver at below spot price on the day you made order. sounds like you could have been one of their loss leaders.

[DestinedForThePit]

@BookofNick The thing is, they have a guy working for them that is a big youtube/social media/reputation management buff named John (his voice has been on videos representing jacks brother, James 'sonny' deangelis), and he probably told them that they should send this guys stuff out to him so he will do the video. I guess they weren't anticipating the rest of the video though...

[greggh]

@BookofNick I remember watching your FightingForSilver unboxing video over one month ago. You admit that you knew it may be a scam before you even did that glowing unboxing video.Why did you wait so long to do this video exposing the possible scam? I'm sure your video helped to get them many more customers and maybe hurt many more people. Was it worth doing that to others to get your silver?

[greggh]

@greggh Actually, Im really confused and disgusted why you made that glowing unboxing video. I think you removed it. I can't find it on your YouTube channel. But you had your silver in your hand from them before making the unboxing video which made no mention of any scams. Why do you do that video and help to hurt more people? Why did you wait so long to finally do this video? It doesn't make sense.

[BookofNick]

@greggh I've never once mentioned the collector's coach or fighting for silver on my YouTube channel. I have done an unboxing from APMEX. The only other unboxing video from the collector's coach I can find on YouTube is by CharlesFuchs.

[greggh]

@BookofNick I am so sorry. I did confuse your channel with Charles Fuchs. I sincerely apologize.

[TwinFlamesXX]

I'm thinking these guys have bright futures in the banking industry...

ps-- it's "M Call dot com" --short for MorningCall; I know, as it's the most widely circulated paper in NE PA--published about 10blocks from my house.

HINT: GainesvilleCoins com--a real, solid high-volume broker. I understand APMEX is good, as well.

[Ivestor1]

Great job! I was weary of the collectorscoach a while back because of some of the things he was saying so I unsubscribed. Bottom line is everyone should do their own due diligence when buying anything and stick with well known established companies.

[samtheman773]

interesting... ur vids are great man, have watched em all. I have a few new ones on silver hunting in currency inspired by you!