UKIP - EU Commission & Lord of the Rings - Francis Howard

[voxhumanapipe]

We need to be saved from the Easterlings

and Southrons. Men of the West, Come to our

aid.

[kokeshififi]

considering the western world's and increasingly other countries (china, india etc) dependance on finite resources i can understand the strategy of the trilateral commision in trying to maintain our way of life, the eu is just part of it in trying to pool our resources in order to survive. Because the resources are finite ultimately we must for ourselves and future generations change our way of life from each individual up.

cuba survived a peak oil crisis and there is a lot we could learn.

[kokeshififi]

i now see the bigger picture, and have decided to become more self reliant through urban gardening, cycling/walking, reducing my energy consumption, consuming less, and investing in gold.

this research has made me realise if in the future the supermarkets were empty or food prices were exhorbitantly high how would i survive? if public transport become too costly or unreliable how would i get to work? if the fiat currency system collapsed and my savings were worthless what would i have to trade?

[arumdevil]

who gave this a thumbs down? Wake up people, your life may depend on it sooner than you think :P

[kokeshififi]

since watching this i researched why? why have an eu treaty what are it's ultimate goals? i discovered the trilateral commision, which includes a european, pacific asian, and north american group, which deals with globalisation, interdependance, and international finance.

i also discovered peak oil, fiat currencies, economic localisation.

[UncleGenghis]

also the church never wanted people to know the truth of the bible and that is why it was alway read out to the people and when they did learn to read, they added more lies to the book

[UncleGenghis]

continued,I'm your mother now laddie if I tell you to jump you reply how high,then when you are up for war crimes just say I was just following orders, point prooven.

[UncleGenghis]

she made comments about our brave soldiers dying for us? not in my name they die because they like to be told what to do,they want to kill darker skinned people of other religions and lands, because they dont have the ability to think for themselves due to poor education (fact)last so called option to get a skill join the army but remember your are a soldier 1st,

[UncleGenghis]

and yet the little children come and suffer unto him, Jesus wept

[UncleGenghis]

continue to fly the false flags and then you shall quicken Armageddon,greed and hunger for power is within us all yet we all think that we are right, throw away the shackles of religion then examine man for what he really stands for then you will have the answers, but do you have the moral backbone to right the wrongs of your peers? Uncle Genghis aka the anti-christ has spoken.

[UncleGenghis]

yet another comment from me,the U.S and the U.K. both proclaim that they are Christian nations yet if Christ was alive today in America he would be imprisoned as a Communist/Anarchist with his views upon money lending/banks now take a good look at who still are the money lenders to this day and then you will see the truth behind Zionism and Christianity.

[kokeshififi]

the lord of the rings/eu comparison is excellent, however the islamaphobia is disturbing. there are many contradictions within this video?

we are all human beings and deserve to be treated as individuals, whatever our faith, through truth, love, and compassion.

[UncleGenghis]

I agree with you, I just wonder why people like this always bring religion into politics,but it is to keep ethnic and religious hatred going,she mentioned spain, if it were not for the moors then europe would not have the numerical system that it so lovingly calls it's own, derived from arabic/indic counting system.

[kokeshififi]

i was inspired by ukip until i saw this video.

[bnprenaissance]

None of our laws should be made outside of Britain.

We can trade with European nations without signing away sovereignty.

[rcoones102]

People in the UK really never knew what was good for them...leave it to the experts... the elite to run the country. When a proposed constitution is turned down by the people just change a few words and call it a treaty and you can get what you wanted in the first place. Labor is being sued in court for violating a promise to have a referendum. This is what need to happen when they pull these tricks. Wake up... the EU is a control state in the post democratic era.

[TheBritishWatcher]

The EU isnt stopping us from having a referendum our government is. lol @ the law suit, how many British governments have been sucessfully sued for not living up to manifesto pledges? Its harldy the first one broken.

Besides such a thing would lose as it is a different document like it or not.. the Constitution is gone in the eyes of the law :)

[rcoones102]

The one stopping you from having a referendum is your own appointed and unelected Prime Minister. A few people are calling the shots here as in most undemocratic states. If there were a referendum it would lose by a big margin. The EU is a rebellion by politicians against the people, done by trickery and stealth. Is it ok for politicians to lie over and over again and make agreements behind the peoples backs? The end justifies the means then.. this sound familiar.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Its not ok for them to lie over and over again, however people have to vote for the best person, or the one that will do the least damage. Labour, SNP, Lib dems and Conservatives will maintain dominance of the British political system and all of them back the EU for a reason.

A referendum on the treaty would be lost, a referendum on British membership of the EU is far more uncertain, with all parties campaigning for us to stay in, people wouldnt risk separation

[TheBritishWatcher]

We have borders, and we require to see everyones passport travelling into the British isles. We are able to impose limits on non EU citizens coming to work here and could of limited new EU citizens from getting work.

You mention australia, well i was under the impression we were soon going to have a similar system as theirs for NON eu citizens. Thats a good start, dont forget its only peaked recently due to 12 new EU nations.

[TheBritishWatcher]

They back the union because they know how dangerous it would be for Great Britain to leave the EU. The SNP, Labour, Lib Dems and yes even the Conservatives all wish to stay in the European Union.

Being able to speak as a Union of 27 nations gives us strenght and makes us the biggest economic block on the planet. The EU is a good thing, im sorry you dont agree.

[Stiofan1979]

lmfao are you taking the piss?

The UK is one of the largest and strongest economies in the World. We are part of the Commonwealth which controls more resources than the European Union. The EU will not allow us to have a vote, how is that good for us?

[TheBritishWatcher]

The EU wont allow us to have a vote on what?

While the commonwealth is bigger we sadly now have very loose ties with our commonwealth friends. We should do more to maintain the commonwealth but it can not compete with the European Union which is simply richer and stronger.

There is no reason why we cant have a strong alliance with the USA, a strong commonwealth of nations and be a leading member of the European Union

[Stiofan1979]

Votes for: Membership of the EU,The EU Constitution,Single Currency. I am a member of the United Commonwealth Society that is working on close ties between the Commonwealth. Our President is Canadian, our VPs are from Canada, UK etc.I am also a member of the Association of the Commonwealth Realms.

[TheBritishWatcher]

The European Union is not stopping us from having a vote on the EU reform treaty or our membership of the European Union. That would be the British government elected by the British people thats refusing to hold such referendums.

As for the single currency, im against joining the Euro, as are the British government. I agree Britain should maintain control of its currency and interest rates. This is a non issue because no ones going to implement it

[Stiofan1979]

Are you sure? Because the Government wouldn't be publishing leaflets explaining how the transition works if they didn't have plans to do it in the future now would they?

They know Brits are attached to the Pound Sterling and this would cause a major backlash so they know they cannot change our currency BUT if we go further into the European Federation then we'll have to change our currency.

[TheBritishWatcher]

They have no intention of introducing the Euro and we are not the only EU nation to remain out of the Eurozone. Im a strong supporter of the EU but i dont want to see a single currency, its dangerous to have one central bank for dozens of countries with very different economies.

The EU can not force us to join the Euro, it is a choice only our government can make. AS you say our government knows thered be a huge backlash as does the EU. They wont do something that forces us to leave the EU

[TheBritishWatcher]

The EU can always be made to backdown on a certain issue after awhile even if they have previously stated a strong opinion on something.

For example wanting us to outlaw displaying measurements in Imperial and change all our road signs. Such a policy would cost this country billions and would really be unacceptable to most. The EU eventually backed down, knowing they couldnt win.

[Stiofan1979]

The Commonwealth is in no way poorer than the EU, not is it weaker. Canada Australia New Zealand India Pakistan et al, they are stronger than France Germany Poland and are allies plus part of the UKUSA Intelligence Network which gives them more power than the EU.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Im a strong supporter of the Commonwealth, we should do much more to make membership worth while and improve relations especially with an upcoming major power like India and we will always have very close and strong ties with our friends in Canada and Australia.

The Commonwealth overall doesnt have a stronger economy than the EU. The EU has a GDP trillions higher and is the only thing above the USA.

[rcoones102]

The Poles really appreciate being able to work in the UK, thanks to the EU, and send as much money out of the country to their own country depriving the locals of jobs and cutting down wages and working conditions. Yes its a race to the bottom folks...who is going to be the leader taking down all the borders taking away from the haves and sending it to the have nots until everyone is poor. Thats the plan

[TheBritishWatcher]

Yes they send money back home but after a few years they usually return home aswell to be with their family. As the Polish economy grows rapidly (which it is) thanks to investment from western businesses and the EU more return home to work. Thats good for Poland, good for Britain and good for Europe. We all win.

Also dont forget half the immigration to the UK came from outside of the EU which our government could stop tomorrow morning

[rcoones102]

Polish economy grows at the expense of the British economy..taking away wealth from Britan. Brits buy cheap imported goods putting more jobs out of the the country. When the Poles go to France they undercut the locals, send the money home. How is this good? Getting cheap imported goods puts your neighbor out of a job . This is the result of believing the lie that free trade is a good idea.

Fragmented countries, one government, no borders, rule by insiders, new world order.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Globalization is a great thing, trading with nations makes them are friends. As trade with China has grown and they have become very rich thanks to European and American businesses alot of their people have got jobs and the country has a growing middle and upper class.

China wouldnt risk all this by using its military to invade Taiwan or commit another huge human rights outrage. We have fairly good relations with a "communist" nation all because of trade.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Its true that such things do lose jobs here in the UK but all change does. 10000s of jobs were lost because of the internet or better manufacturing techniques, it doesnt mean we shouldnt accept change we just have to ensure people get retrained for other jobs. Something a good government is able to do.

As for "new world order", in 1000 years time when we are setting up colonies on other planets do you really think man will be so worked up about national borders as they are today?

[rcoones102]

Retraining for different jobs usually means downgrading of skills and pay as heavy manufacturing moves out of respective countries to cheap labor and environmentally exploitive countries. China has lots of civil rights protections...really? Our species would seek to dominate each other and any species beyond the earth. Get real... humans are primitive..their spirituality lagging far behind their technology.

[TheBritishWatcher]

China has many civil rights issues but they are slowly reforming. Lets not forget even the USA does things we no longer apporve of in this country. Such as executions, beating children in schools etc. Trade gives us influence and its a long term way of changing a nations policies, rather than an attempt to impose democracy like in Iraq.

One day we will see the bigger picture, the majority will see themselves as humans rather than from a specific part of the world.. Gonna be a long wait tho :)

[TheBritishWatcher]

No the problem is i do live in the real world, and sadly some people here dont. We live in a world with 7 billion people, we live in a world where India and China are growing Super powers, we live in a world where we have less influence than the past 300 years thanks to the break up of our empire.

Other European nations have this problem aswell, France, germany they have very little power over China. The European Union is the richest economic block on the planet.. this gives us influence.

[rcoones102]

It is a fallacy that if you take peoples rights away they will stop fighting. Rights like Habeus Corpus, Innocent until proven guilty and the like. Thousands of regulations, a rubber stamp EU Parliament. this is not Democracy as we know it. You cant sack most of the legislature. Brown and Bliar both Fabians, uncontrolled immigration, the taking away of national borders. This is one world order thinking not freedom.

[skulls23]

i know

[TheBritishWatcher]

You cant blame mass uncontrolled immigration on the European Union. It was our own nations government that decided to not limit the number of workers from new EU members. Countries like France and Germany imposed strict limits on workers from places like Poland.. We didnt.

The EU is not going to destroy our justice system. We simply add laws to it based on what the EU decides.. Its always the British government that implements everything, Not brussels

[banjoplant]

'TheBritishWatcher', you are incredibly misinformed. The EU is going to destroy our justice system, replacing our thousand year old common-law and 'free unless prohibited' mentality with one using a Civil Code based on 'everything prohibited unless permitted'. Read European Court of Justice statements on sovereignty if you want to know what's coming.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Explain it to me Banjoplant. The treaty does not give the European Court of Justice any extra powers over our criminal justice system.

[skulls23]

i was going round town to day and i kept seeing eu flags on things they is notthing like rubbibg your face in it is there LOL i am going to get a nice union jack flag and fly it out side my home for the ww2 vets :)and the uk

[rcoones102]

Great...Yes stick up for your own country. Europhiles are trying to take it away through the backdoor. The problem is your own countrymen first..they are the biggest problem...the ones who have swallowed the agenda and actually think that giving up is best. Once they have been defeated it is much easier to combat the EU. Public Awareness and knowlege is essential.

[TheBritishWatcher]

If you think sticking up for ur country involves trying to get us to leave the European Union then you would be foolish.

Just out of interest, Do you support the break up of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland? In a way the issue with the EU is similiar.

We are stronger united than divided.

[TheBritishWatcher]

We are in the European Union i see no problem with finding a EU flag on things. Im glad you are going to put up a Union Jack, not enough people are patriotic about Britain today.

For the millions of people who died in ww2, Do u think they would be glad to see a Europe living in peace working together.. Or fighting one another like we all did for 1000s of years?

A united Europe was one of the best things to happen because of WW2.

[rcoones102]

The "SuperPower" (the USA) is being taken down too. Balance of trade, deficit spending, loss of manufacturing. China ownes its debt! 20 Million illegal immigrants within its borders, jobs sent out of the country. Globalism is real and hurting the USA and UK. The Nafta, Cafta, and the lot have decimated USA jobs and the Post Democratic Era is being foisted upon the people. These arguments do not hold water at all and in fact are panacea for the real motivation...loss of the nation state!

[TheBritishWatcher]

Globalisation helps build peace, by connecting the worlds economy we all are impacted by each others actions. The fact China is booming means that they are less likely to start a war that puts that boom at risk. They are more likely to listen to Western concerns about human rights when its the west that is investing billions in that country.

Oh and if the USA is falling, all the more important to have a strong Europe.

[rcoones102]

Globalisation empties jobs out of countries and seeks the lowest common denominator in wages and working conditions. China is an oppressive authoritarian state. New World Order manipulators take away national borders, jobs, human rights. When you buy a chinese made item you are putting your own countrymen out of work! The more money China has the more likely they can wage war and dictate to the rest of us. The EU is a Utopian Dream that will fail like the others.

[TheBritishWatcher]

You do talk alot of rubbish :). Globalisation does take away jobs from the west however responsible governments can help recreate jobs here. You also have to consider the Internet / computers which have led to job losses too and yet unemployment is low compared to the past.

Importing from China keeps prices low, makes British business more profits, and in a few years time when baby boomers retire we wont have enough workers anyway.

[rcoones102]

Importing from China takes away jobs from your own country. Your rubbish is being implanted with RFID chips. Your own Patronizing Government spying on you! Tell those whos jobs have went out of the country just how great Globalization is. It is not... it is the NWO incarnate. Your logic is not your own, what you are repeating is mostly progaganda by the Globalists!

[TheBritishWatcher]

I dont have a problem with a peaceful united world where everyone is working together. Im sorry id rather a NWO than WW3.

[rcoones102]

Welcome to the post Democratic

Era where you are guilty until proven innocent, spied on in your home and outside in your car and telephone and internet. You never really understood enough to vote so the elite will now make your mind up for you and make all the decisions. Facism was a better idea than Democracy and propaganda takes the place of free speech, no balance just the 'experts' running everything for you. You at last have no say.. just the way the sheeple were told.

[rcoones102]

Your government is taking away your borders. Your government is not responsible otherwise they would look after their own people first and not be in the business of changing Demographics of the country for a Utopian Idea that will fail. A War on the English by its own government, Fabian Socialists Blair and Brown. Selling their own country out... Unbelieveable!

[TheBritishWatcher]

Our borders remain in tact and despite being part of the EU we still require passports / border control from other EU nations before they can come in(unlike most others).

Our government does look after our own people, You know in the past things were not amazing for British people.. there was massive poverty and unemployment at some stages..

People have a FAR better standard of living today.

[rcoones102]

Any resident of the EU (millions!) can now enter your country and live and work and take a job from one of its citizens. Your government purposely underestimated the amount of immigrants that would come in. New housing mandated, now we know why...to house the new immigrants your government was planning to let in. Implemented, and carried out by traitors in you own country.

[TheBritishWatcher]

The fact citizens from new EU nations were able to come here in such numbers is because of our own governments mistakes in estimating and imposing limits like most other western European nations did.

This means the EU is not to blame and you shouldnt just attack it for government incompetence.

Those millions of extra workers will be needed, it wont be long before the baby boomers retire and we will be short of workers.

[rcoones102]

The politcally and spin engineered need for housing came before the immigration crunch. A first excuse was to help the young people get on the first rung of the property ladder... affordable housing. Then morphed into more ecological housing (ie: get rid of victorian housing which was not deemed "sustainable") and then lo and behold all these immigrants show up. That was the real reason!!!

[TheBritishWatcher]

The west investing in China helps build influence in that nation, they are less unstable if they have more people in work and depend on exports to US/EU, so are less of a threat.

Im concerned the money they invest on their military now, but globalisation has helped spread peace and human rights are slowly improving in such nations as we can demand higher standards.

[rcoones102]

Tell this to the Tibetans who lost their country to the Chinese. Tell this to the Dali Lama who is in exile. The Chinese are brutal and they are smart, saving their money and buying our companies, our debt. A police state keeps down insurrection, suppreses the people but do you want to live in a police state? I dont, apparently you do. Globalists change the Demographics worldwide, you dont have the right then to have your own country.

[TheBritishWatcher]

I dont live in a police state, with the amount of free media out there including the Internet it is very hard for a western nation to fall into such darkness.

Peoples lives in the west are getting better not worse. before "globalisation" more people were living in poverty with very poor living standards and conditions.

China is a bad regime they also have nuclear weapons.. isolating them helps no one, we have to try and build friendship.

[rcoones102]

You are becoming a police state. Just look at all the cameras on most every high street. GPS monitored car trips charging you per mile in the works, rfid in the dustbins, etc. Jobs out of the country, nothing made in your own..this is real. Globalistion lowers your wages and weath and gives it to the third world who are still in poverty. Obviously you dont care if your neighbor has a job, still they can get a pc non job spying on you through the Guardian want ads. Look there.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Globalisation has some negative effects but there are money positives. Increased trade means better relations with other countries, Large trade agreements (like by the EU to another nation) brings with it influence to help us encourage reform in these places.

Unemployment is very low, and there are still 100,000 jobs vacant.. A good government can replace the jobs lost by "globalisation"

[TheBritishWatcher]

Your comments on China becoming more of a military power is true, but you see this is a good argument for the European Union.

Instead of British business spending money on workers in china which goes on to build its military, we can invest in Eastern europe instead and get reasonably cheap labour there.

As those Eastern economies grow and become stronger they put more back into the EU budget and we put in less. Its a positive circle that improves europeans lives and security.

[rcoones102]

Europe is the prize that so many have lusted and and fought for for centuries and now it is being done by stealth. Suspect those that say it is keeping the USA in its place. It is just a false excuse..the motivation is total control just as Hitler wanted. Loss of Habeus Corpus, Trial by Jury, Presumption Of Innosence is more than keeping the USA down. Think about it! World Government is the motivation as the USA is being dissolved too.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Hitler wanted a united Europe that he controlled, the European Union is totally different. It remains a group of nations that have complete control over their foreign policy and the right to leave the Union.

As far as im aware Britain has opt ins/outs on things covering our legal system such as trial by Jury. If we lose that process in the UK it will be the British governments choice, and we elect them.

[banjoplant]

Anyone reading this, beware that 'TheBritishWatcher' is broadcasting pure propaganda for the EU. The EU is not an international-law based group of nations. The ECJ themselves talk about a 'new legal order', with EU law having primacy over member states. Read indepth, too, about how Brown's 'red lines' are subterfuge, and will disappear with time once it's too late.

[TheBritishWatcher]

The UKs Parliament has the power to leave the EU, this treaty sets that out for the first time. If the EU goes too far in the wrong direction then there is always that last option.

The threat of Great Britain leaving the Union if the EU doesnt change a policy we cant accept or live with, will make most EU nations wake up. The powers given to the European Court of Justice can be taken away.

Other nations wont accept massive reforms of their systems.. have faith in ur allies.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Now our small european countries can not compete with the huge super powers of the USA, China and indeed India. So we have to bring together our 27 rings and combine forces and economic strenghts to give us an equal playing field with these other world powers.

This helps keeps the world "In balance" as the United States isnt the only powerful nation speaking for "The West" Europe gets a say and can once again influence world events.

[banjoplant]

There are lots of ways that Europe could co-operate for mutual benefit, but not at the price of gaining a dictatorship over nearly 500m people, losing control over our own country and resources, and losing the most precious aspects of our Anglo-Saxon culture.

[TheBritishWatcher]

"Dictatorship" "Losing control over our country and resources" "most precious aspects of our anglo-saxon culture" WHat crap, explain pls.

The European Union is NOT a dictatorship. The EU parliament is elected by the European People. the EU council of ministers are elected government ministers of the 27 member states. Both of these decide who runs the commission.

Im sorry but if you consider this a dicatorship, u need to google the word.

[rcoones102]

What ever happened to the alliance of Britain and the United States? Was that not a good arrangement? Doesnt that provide balance against too much influence by the Juggernaut EU stepping on the Uk? There are forces in the EU that want to drag down the USA, who are anti USA. How many peoples were actually asked if they wanted to join the EU in its present form? Is that Democracy? The answer is they were not, in the other 25 countries also.

[TheBritishWatcher]

The simple fact is we have continued to vote for parties that support our membership of the European Union, the votes parties such as the BNP and UKIP which want to leave the EU get is a minority and a joke.

We can have good relations with the USA, the Commonwealth and be members of the EU. A strong EU working with the US is good for the Americans, as they are not the only major power.

[TheBritishWatcher]

There is some anti Americanism in Europe although id say the masjority of people are just against Bush and what has happened in the past 7 years rather than hating the United States / its people. This is the same as in the UK, we like America but hate George W Bush.

Our membership of the EU is good for the USA, we like all nations hold a veto over foreign policy.. there for we can prevent the EU from taking an Anti American stance.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Interesting and ofcourse totally stupid comments by the woman in this video. Theres nothing the anti EU group wont do just to bash it. She attacks the Europea Union and what it stands for then goes on to ask for a Christian europe that fights against the muslims.. Unbelievable.

Using the LOTR scenario i think she has things the wrong way round. In the past European nations were all strong fighting each other, keeping them "in balance" but that ended after ww2.

[toptop90]

its more orwells animal farm than LOTR i thought