John, what was your concern about using a 3-5psi for a valve? Wouldn't the higher presure reduce the likelyhood of ignition into the canister anyway? May take a little longer to prime the system, but in the cells I've seen, I don't suspect that would be long anyway. Also would a second check valve (higher preasure), be needed on the canister as well?
Just the opposite...if you keep Hydrogen and Oxygen together under pressure you run that very risk... also there is no need to to that.. the bubbler will work and I will design another method...
One thing I noticed it looks like you have rubber between the electrodes and the cover. The electrode should be sandwiched with a nut first before the rubber to keep the connection tight. Otherwise I see high resistance with increased heat and amps.
thanks John, that darn simple practical bolt to sense the water level is a stroke of genius ... I admire simple easily implemented things that have practical value ... and that one there qualifies ...
I wonder, if the meyers system had a very large alternator, my friend thinks that the big "electric motor" in the car may be a high power alternator, like an rv or truck setup. This larger power supply would increase productivity of the system as a whole. I think that an extra pulley can run an isolated alternator, to power the gas generator, and the extra drag on the engine would be justified, when running extra water. At this rate, we would need a water tank, as the systems burn 1 litre pr hr.
Try the McMaster-Carr web site..they manufacture barbed check valves with breaking values of 0.5 psi, for under $5.00 apiece.(Thanks to ElectrikRide for sharing this invaluable source)
Also, I was able to find a couple of non-barbed valves, as a quick fix remedy, at an auto parts store..had to wrap the tiny ends with rubber bands to form an airtight seal for the 1/4" hose connections but they seem to work fine in preventing back-flow from the bubbler to the generator.
One element missing on all the cells seems to be a blowout cap. If that sucker ignites in a closed container --- it can and will kill/mame someone... maybe an innocent bystander(lawsuit!). You may want to put a large hole in the side of the cell body with a rubber grommet of some sort to allow the pressure to escape if it ignites somehow thus preventing a catastrophic explosion of the cell. Comments?
I am working on that....if you have noted all the safety features I have on this unit... you should know that ... is one feature I have not put down... but thanks... need all the eyes I can get.
EXTREMELY BORING!!!!!!!!!
xXtortionXx 3 years ago
Thought Id publish this.. I usually delete this type of comment because it has nothing to do with exchanging ideas...
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
John, what was your concern about using a 3-5psi for a valve? Wouldn't the higher presure reduce the likelyhood of ignition into the canister anyway? May take a little longer to prime the system, but in the cells I've seen, I don't suspect that would be long anyway. Also would a second check valve (higher preasure), be needed on the canister as well?
mytube1968 3 years ago
Just the opposite...if you keep Hydrogen and Oxygen together under pressure you run that very risk... also there is no need to to that.. the bubbler will work and I will design another method...
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
Nice work John,
One thing I noticed it looks like you have rubber between the electrodes and the cover. The electrode should be sandwiched with a nut first before the rubber to keep the connection tight. Otherwise I see high resistance with increased heat and amps.
CarbideTip 3 years ago
what ever happened to the liberty cell? Excellent work on the focus cell. Keep up the good work.
flipster12000 3 years ago
I am devoting all my time to the "FOCUS"... I am trying to have it up by next week running in the car.. John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
thanks John, that darn simple practical bolt to sense the water level is a stroke of genius ... I admire simple easily implemented things that have practical value ... and that one there qualifies ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
Thanks... simple is better..
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
I wonder, if the meyers system had a very large alternator, my friend thinks that the big "electric motor" in the car may be a high power alternator, like an rv or truck setup. This larger power supply would increase productivity of the system as a whole. I think that an extra pulley can run an isolated alternator, to power the gas generator, and the extra drag on the engine would be justified, when running extra water. At this rate, we would need a water tank, as the systems burn 1 litre pr hr.
heloooo43 3 years ago
Still great work John. Question? I saw a cell the other nite that was using baking soda. Is that the same as lye? Thanks again.
DaBumb 3 years ago
No.... I have tried many other electrolytes but Lye still works the best... It takes a lot less Lye to make the Hydrogen than the others.
But having said that.. the other works... you just have to use more... John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
Try the McMaster-Carr web site..they manufacture barbed check valves with breaking values of 0.5 psi, for under $5.00 apiece.(Thanks to ElectrikRide for sharing this invaluable source)
Also, I was able to find a couple of non-barbed valves, as a quick fix remedy, at an auto parts store..had to wrap the tiny ends with rubber bands to form an airtight seal for the 1/4" hose connections but they seem to work fine in preventing back-flow from the bubbler to the generator.
Keep up the great work!
redlitezsuk 3 years ago
I will try that..thanks.. John AArins
johnaarons 3 years ago
Looking good! About how much is it going to be for a full on kit with everything including oxygen sensor override??
can't wait..
ShaggyDudeMan 3 years ago
Keep checking my site "hydrogentap dot com".. I will also be linking to these videos .. JOhn AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
what about just a regular automotive pcv valve like you will find in the valve cover to recerc the oil vapor into the intake manifold
waynedavisband 3 years ago
I was thinking about that ... I will check it out... I don't know about the PSI.
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
i tried PCV valves, they wont work, they leak
Fusion8r 3 years ago
Thanks I think I have a place on line that has what I need..
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
oh...and enjoy your quality work
flahr1 3 years ago
Thanks .... could use that...
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
One element missing on all the cells seems to be a blowout cap. If that sucker ignites in a closed container --- it can and will kill/mame someone... maybe an innocent bystander(lawsuit!). You may want to put a large hole in the side of the cell body with a rubber grommet of some sort to allow the pressure to escape if it ignites somehow thus preventing a catastrophic explosion of the cell. Comments?
flahr1 3 years ago
I am working on that....if you have noted all the safety features I have on this unit... you should know that ... is one feature I have not put down... but thanks... need all the eyes I can get.
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
Have you seen the easy to make backflash arrestors people are using for the HHO torches?
Might work here too...?
USACitizenJames 3 years ago
There are many ways to do it... one way I will do it..John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
hi john, try an auqarium type single-way air valve, they seem to work fine for low pressure.
keep up the great work.
shimoda18 3 years ago
The valve is to small... but keep thinking..
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
Hi John,
Have you built the rad cooler or did you purchase one? I'm interested in what it is you are going to use for the cooler.
Thanks in advance
key2money 3 years ago
There are two choices I have decided on..
one is a computer radiator and the other is a trans cooler or oil cooler for cars..
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
How many amps are you running with the 2 neautrals in between pos and neg? I seen the video that showed 1 neautral.
thanks for all your hard work you share
Weebz
Weebz1 3 years ago
14 amps produces 1 L per minute
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
You have a great cell there.
I can't tell, are the pieces which are bolted to top all 1 piece part of the end plates? Or has it been welded?
MadStu1978 3 years ago
Go to "hydrogen tap dot com" and you will see. All of my cells can be taken apart easy... I make them that way for inspection.
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago