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  • nettes video :)

  • One of the few I disagree with Mark in. I was glad that I finally got to see an 80's action movie done today. I really feared that they would put in "Matrixy" effects and was very relieved that they didn't stylize the violence. My friends and I even stood up and applauded at the climax...

  • I didn't see it. I assumed that the violence would be graphic and gratuitous. Also Goldsmith wasn't scoring this, which is the actual reason why I saw Part II in the cinema.

  • I think this review was unnecessarily harsh. As far as action films go, Rambo is pretty good. Yes, the film is incredibly violent, but it's centred around an incredibly brutal conflict, so expecting anything else would be a little silly.

  • Mark Kermode go and make your own film you pompous twat! Rambo was a great throwback film to the earlier 80's action flicks. Don't look into to deeply!

  • What a cunt.

  • i liked rambo

  • i agree with some of the things he says but this movie was for the fans like me i grew up watching these movies and i know these charactors are fantasy and i don't think it was made for anything els than entertainment. If anything the movie shows you what happens when projectiles meet flesh and bones. The movie obviously is not for everyone so just don't watch it.

  • I thought the same thing, the bad guys committed such terrible acts of violence, they shot woman and children meaning Rambo was given a license to destroy them in whatever fashion he wanted.

  • @jimmymckooel Rambo was fairly conventional in his dispatching of the Burmese soldiers, disintegrating human beings with high powered weaponry is fairly effortless, and done mostly without much passion or gusto...

  • I'll say that it was researched very well to the on going genocide over there and it also shows the lead (rambo) as tring to find himself. Plus it shows an area of the world that the UN dose not have the balls to go in to. I'd say that RAMBO can be looked at as trying to open the worlds eyes to it and trying to be real and honest about it.

  • @atlanticraven "genocide" Really? all i saw was some random soldiers blowing up villages for fun. "lead (rambo) as tring to find himself" the problem with that is every rambo film is about him trying to find himself, in each one it looks like he succeeds or is at least on the right path which to me made his constant relapses a bit hard to swallow. "UN dose not have the balls to go in to" I think your misunderstanding how the UN works, its a forum for international disputes not a police force.

  • @CommissarRed It's true that their is genocide over their and the UN has sent troops into other area like Somolia, Cambodia and Kosavo. Nothing has been done in real life to stop this problem over their

  • @atlanticraven "It's true that their is genocide over their " yes but going from Rambo alone can you tell me why that situation occurred? no you can't they never explain it. Sorry but showing a bunch of thugs in Burmese uniforms blowing up random villages is not deep research. "Somolia, Cambodia and Kosavo." Yeah because the government of Somalia had collapsed, in Cambodia what past for a gov't invited them, and Kosovo was being partitioned as a potential new state, none of those apply to Burma

  • @atlanticraven Also another very important factor why countries like Somalia Kosovo and Cambodia get UN intervention and others don't is because the situations already involved other nations which made them international incidents which placed them under UN jurisdiction anyway, and had some or all of the participating nations supporting UN involvement to resolve their dispute. Again none of this applies to Burma.

  • there's too much compression on the audio on this film

  • I usually agree with Kermode's reviews/critics but I disagree with him on this one. Rambo isn't a bad film. Stallone knows what he's doing. He wants to show how violent and disgusting war is. It is ugly and inhuman. You can see how Rambo is tired, fed-up with war and killing but still have that beast and killing instinct within him; so he goes on that last rampage to kill his demons (literally and metaphorically). At the end of film, he goes home to be at peace, thus concluding the Rambo saga.

  • People should remember the Real world is far far far far far worse than ANY movie has ever shown.. trust me..

  • I was gonna say this guy doesn't like any good movies, but I think he just doesn't like ANY movies haha. Every review is like, 60 to 80 percent negative, I mean it's entertaining but damn, does he like anything? lol

  • @M1GU3L07

    Well, he is a film critic :p

  • @M1GU3L07 Oh no, he does like many of the movies he reviews.... and quite paradoxically (for me) they tend to be the ones I hated to death and was hoping he would crush them too: Inception, Kick Ass and No Country for Old Men are some of them.

  • @mrpossibilities Really you didn't like inception? I've never seen kick ass and I hate no country for old men. Everyone always says that movies so great, personally I found it simple and boring. Inception on the other hand, I thought it was a trip to watch visually. Mostly I like the main characters motives for going through the whole movie. Trying to get back to his family and clear his name. It's not an incredibly original story, but I thought it was presented pretty well.

  • @M1GU3L07 It's interesting that you say that the thing you liked about Inception was the characters' motives. I found the characters to be the most bleak and uninteresting of the movie's elements. The visuals were okay but nothing to die for and the whole dream world lacked imagination in my opinion (The Cell and Matrix have done more interesting things). I didn't identify with the main character at all and I didn't care about any of them and the plot didn't give me any reason to.

  • this is a bullshit review. a single minded hater.

  • that the point is action movies. when the real cunt of the movie is killed esp for being a VC or jap

  • it's a rambo film!!!!!!!!!

  • i like kermode but he's the most stereotypically snobby critic ever

  • Right Wing Machismo

  • Sorry Mark you are wrong about this ! Rambo's better than Twilight mate !!!!!!!!

  • @trickykid73 damn right.

  • people like it , ho cares if you don't like it , we pay to see it you don't so shut your pie hole and go see some french movie !!!!

  • @1994silent LOL too true. a snobby pretentious fuckin brit., not all brits are like him.. but he's snobby att hurts his fellow country man's cool factor.

  • RAMBO. 5 stars from me. fucking awesome. kermode is a snobby lil git

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  • @BRm2008 Real men like films that appeal to their taste, whatever those films may be, and don't give a shit what overly macho, insecure dives like you think.

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  • @BRm2008 I know from your messages that you're a brain dead moron, who appears to be on a constant testosterone overdose. Seriously, you sound like an adolescent male, who acts all macho in front of his mates at school, then goes home and bawls his eyes out watching Titanic for the 1000th time. Grow up!

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  • @BRm2008 Hit a nerve have I? lol

  • @BRm2008

    Good job proving his point. Only a faggot insults someone by calling them a cunt. Oh, and empty threats, very masculine indeed.

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  • @BRm2008

    Ooh it's little feelers are hurt.

  • the film is shit, could have been made 2 days after the third movie. Also it's quite low budget and shot on fucking HD.

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  • @brewt1mer So you have no opinion on any film bcause you have never made one? Mark Kermode knows more about film than most film directors, and you for that matter.

  • dude that why i see movies like that. i love carnage.

  • @BRm2008 Then you're a psychopath. Or you've got seriously screwed up moral values and a lack of empathy.

    More likely than not you've just been desensitised by the media.

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  • @BRm2008 You gotta be kidding! Are you sending one these guys up or do you really mean that?

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  • WTF Kermode?

    This was the only decent action film I've seen in the past 10 years.

    Oh and at least it wasn't a fucking 12a (PG-13) for once. Anyone squemish about violent films should go and watch faggetry films like Enchanted or Hairy Assed otter and the Castrated Middle Classed Shite.

    Grown up cinema for grown ups

  • I'm with him on this one too. It's a film that portrays atrocities to justify atrocities.

  • This film shouldn't be taken seriously. Even if that's what Stallone was trying to do. It's a Rambo movie. Explosions and death. Just great fun..

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  • I liked the film a lot.

  • "we'll wonder if it was a good or a bad thing that we discovered this new level of realism"

    Thats a good point. Same with programmes about 911 or the tsunami that include loads of real footage.

    Before long, paparazzi will be causing accidents on purpose.

  • @sparkyinbath ITA. At first, I thought your last sentence was hyperbole, in what was an otherwise reasonable comment. Then, I remembered an article from the CTV . ca website, "Did TV host arrange murders for ratings?"

    I'm somewhat relieved that this news story is (for now) atypical, but I must admit, I'm not optimistic about the future of the news, or the media in general.

    My outrage at the ongoing decline of journalistic standards is only surpassed by my sadness in light of the consequences.

  • In my speculation of movies, and reviewers overall it seems as though the reviewers forget movies are a form of entertainment more than story telling. Through that critical spectrum Rambo is a great movie. I saw it in theaters with a few friends, and came out of it extraordinarily impressed as did the rest of the crowd cheering and clapping as if they just saw there favorite football team win the Superbowl. Oh, and try telling the residents of Burma their morally bankrupt, and see what happens.

  • So it doesn't matter if movies don't tell stories? Then why write a script? Why not just have a bunch of explosions, gory fake deaths and exposed breasts and be done with it?

  • Rambo's story, and setting are made brutally clear. Its strong enough to hold the action scenes together. Sense the movie is shot with a sense of realism it would be inappropriate if they directly told us what was going on. What are you talking about fake deaths dude. Those where some of the most realistic deaths in cinema history. Though its not the best written story it still complements the action and setting which I think is why people enjoy it so much. but your free to argue that.

  • Okay, fair enough, but you said movies were a "form of entertainment more than storytelling."

    By "fake deaths," I meant movie deaths. Frankly, "Saving Private Ryan" does a better job with that simulation, and I would think that the "Rambo" movies are just revenge fantasies writ large: "Death Wish" in a foreign country.

    Still, gracias for the clarification.

  • By saying "form of entertainment more than storytelling." I meant that we go to movies to be entertained first and listen to a story second. Or rather that's why most people go to watch movies for. I didn't really like the 2nd and 3rd Rambo movies just because they didn't have the impact of the original which is still a masterpiece. The newest one has that certain impact the first did while adding its own flavor. "Saving Private Ryan" is a much better movie than Rambo 4, but R4 has its moments.

  • While I wouldn't call it a masterpiece, I would say that "First Blood" is easily one of Stallone's finer movies.

    Holy sh...a rational YouTube discussion. Are we allowed to have that?

  • First blood is only a little dated. The thing is any real flaws it has are forgiven for one of the best performances in Stallone's career at the end of the movie. Well I guess that's still an opinion, but at least I can justify my reasons for saying it. Its just because most action movies fail at giving us a satisfying ending to what the action was building up to. First blood nails it. Oh, yea I like to start good discussions on this site, because I like to prove stereotypes wrong, lol.

  • The majority of people don't go to see a Rambo film to be morally enlightened in any way. They go to see Stallone being stupidly outnumbered and killing loads of people. I think it's been taken way way too seriously here.

  • The new Rambo is essentially a $50 million grindhouse film. It essentially took the character back to his roots after the cartoonish ridiculousness of Rambo III. Now, I have problems with the short length of the film and the lack of development for most of the characters aside from Rambo, Sarah and Schoolboy, but the moral center of the movie didn't bother me. I understood that the writer wanted the audience to hate the Junta. It was a classic revenge flick, and that worked for me.

  • he doesn't like it because it lacks a moral center and is just showing gruesome deaths and really NOTHING more.

  • @Regenmacher175

    No moral center....then what is the moral center of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre?

    A movie that K-Mode calls a master piece....a movie about the abduction and torture of young nubile teenagers plus a handicap guy, who gets the worst cut of all.

    Damned...that movie is moraly centered!

  • @Samplelord there is no blood in Texas Chainsaw massacre; it's all happening inside your head because the violence is only suggested.

  • @Regenmacher175

    Blood or no blood, that is not the point...morals have nothing to do with blood.

    My question is: If Rambo has no moral center , then what the hell is Chainsaw?Chainsaw is an exploitation movie made to cash in on the Ed Gein story, not to make a "moraly centered" movie....

    Name me one moraly centered movie...

    You, K-Mode and the rest of you sound like fundamentalist Christians/Muslims, you must be one rightious dude!

  • @Regenmacher175

    ps

    The violonce is not suggested, they dont show close ups.

    You can see the chick getting hung on the meathook and then thrown in a freezer while still alive., you see Franklin getting cut and blood spraying on leatherface's face, you see a guy get clobbered with a mallet and spasming out, you see a chick being mentaly tortured, gagged and also being beaten by a mallet and a broom handle., you see a guy getting squished by a truck, et5c, etc...

    yeah...in my head...sure

  • if you can't stomach a horror movie, then don't listen to Kermode because he is a BIG horror fan and he will find things in them to justify why they play out the way they do but what he, as well as i, son't like is when he violence is there for no purpose just as in this film. Texas chainsaw massacre is about these insane people in the desert. you do not actually see the violence happening. sure they throw a bit of ketchup at Leatherface but it comes out of his character and rambo is just dumb.

  • @Regenmacher175

    I don't know if you've seen his review for Kick-Ass, but it makes him look like a massive hypocrite regarding this review.

  • @SonnyCorleone LOL yeah suppose

  • @Regenmacher175 He's a horror film fanboy, so he SHOULD like gratuitous violence and gore.

  • @soundslave yeah I know. he's also a very religious person. furthermore, he's always said that horror films are not about gore. he likes the Exorcist because there is nearly no gore in it and it still scares you when you watch it. horror is never about the gore but here the violence has no purpose and that's what's making him furious.

  • @soundslave I don't think he has a problem with the violence per se. I think that he has a problem with what he perceives as Stallone making a movie that exists solely to show off violence and gore while attempting to tie it into a real world issue to somehow have the moral high ground about it. I think it's certainly tasteless, but hardly different from the Indians in numerous westerns or the Russians in countless Cold War-era movies.

  • @soundslave

    your an idiot real horror fans look for more than gratuitous violence and gore!

  • @Regenmacher175 Stallone is showing how violent, brutal and disgusting war is. Ugly and inhuman. You can see how Rambo is fed-up with war and killing but still have the beast and killing instinct within him; so he goes on that last rampage to kill his demons (literally and metaphorically). In the end, he goes home to be at peace, thus concluding the Rambo saga. There is morality in the film. Rambo is not a superhero but a very human and lonely character haunted by war with no one to love him.

  • @Regenmacher175 However brutal and crude that much of the film might have been, it brought attention to the horrible situation in Burma. Never discount the changing power of film...

  • @Mistermax30 i'd rather have a film with a real opinion ay something about that conflict rather than have a human killing machine destroying people all in the name of revenge and stupid popcorn entertainment.

  • @Regenmacher175 If you want a documentary, then I would suggest watching one. In case you misread the title of the film, its "Rambo". Rambo was a fictional, 1980's action/violence/superhero icon. For being what it is, the film had plenty to say. Preachy talk, in my opnion, will always take a back seat to brutal face to face no nonsense portrayals of a particular situation, any day of the week...

  • @Mistermax30 i have nothing against big explosions but at one point there is a limit as to what the certificate allows regarding the amount of violence. I don't need to be told by a film called Rambo that war is bad; that's as deep as that film gets. just watch the original; there is no need for this film. it's a waste of time and it's just there to grab your money but hey it's your choice. i prefer to keep my money for films that are worth it, not this crap.

  • Anyone that thinks Kermode can't detect great entertainment should see his review for Star Trek.

  • @Neonman78 What ever his supposed skills, he completely missed the mark on this one. I'm no slouch when it comes to film or art, and I thoroughly enjoyed Rambo...

  • Lads, Kermode isn't Ebert. By that I mean that he's not a retard. Comments like 'Rambo 4 is a masterpice-critics need to chill out & watch movies for what there suppossed to be Entertainment!' simply aren't good enough.

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  • I think you're missing the point of the review. The moral bankruptcy he is talking about is the gratuitous violence in the movie, which is 'justified' by a 3 minute montage of the Junta...which could be fake footage.

    He is probably reading too much into it, but just because it's an action movie,, it certainly doesn't have to be dumb. Take First Blood for example, it's perceived as an action romp but it has suspense, character development, good dialogue. The modern one has none of that.

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  • it was rambo film mate,dont read too much into it

  • dgb111, a bad film is a bad film. However, on this note, I did enjoy Rambo far more than the third film in the series which was more simply a bodycount film, and I agree this one suceeded in showing (albit sometimes falling into parody) the attrocities of war. I don't feel it came close to bringing the character convictions of First Blood, and comparing something like this to a 'real' war film like Saving Private Ryan or anything of that calibur, pathetic pun I know, is ludicrous.

  • The reason the violence was so over the top was because Sly wanted people to be uncomfortable, and wanted people's reaction to be sick. He also wanted to make the "good guys" just as violent as the bad guys to show the "horror" of war. Watch it with commentary some time. Yes it works as a mindless action, but there is a lot of thought into it aswell. Sly isn't as stupid as (some) people think.

  • Sly is not dumb he won a oscar when he wrote Rocky and has won critical praise for his acting in coptown..

  • The way you've written that and replying to me, makes it sound like I said he was stupid. I didn't. I think Sly is actually quite intelligent with what he does in many ways. If I am mis-interpreting your reply apologies.

  • i totally didin't think that.. a lot of people criticized sly is good enough or whatever but i think they jealous,, rocky is so good it is like a perfect movie totally inspiring no matter how many times you watch.. most people never do anything that good after they become famous anyway.

  • Copland#

  • yeah, copland

  • Stop quoting Simpson and Bruckheimer

  • Couldn't agree more MUDSHARK111

  • I thought it was a top film. I didn't go in the cinema expecting deep drama or having to explain it's actions, just what you would expect from an action film, ala Rambo or Commando. Does what it sets out to do.

  • Rambo as a morally corrupt movie?

    Rambo was a kick ass movie! I didn't go to watch it to get spiritual guidance; the movie showed how men who sworn off violence react when they are surrounded by it.

    This guy oughtta be dumped into Burma and get sodomized;

    I'm sure he'll say;

    I wish Rambo was here to save my ass!

  • I'd like Kermode to travel to Burma and tell the freedom fighters that the film was rubbish. Wonder how far his mysterious Phd would take him in that situation.

  • The final scene of carnage from Rambo 4 is on YouTube.  Hardcore man. Fucking hardcore.

  • It's strange that I completely agree with him, yet haven't enjoyed a film more this year.

  • I am so disturbed that there are people who can't grasp the idea that revenge movies treat you like a complete idiot by setting you up to hate someone before you get to enjoy a well deserved violent retribution. you might as well put genital stimulating electrodes in the seats and dispense with the movie. I canNOT believe the 15 YOs are writing comments instead of watching violence porn

  • anyone know why i can't watch some of the reviews? says 'video is not available in your country.' why not?

  • Rambo 4 is a righteous pile of tripe.Watch the Deerhunter if you can be bothered with all the emotion.

  • You're just plain wrong. People don't listen to Kermode because he's an incredible reviewer (although he is very good), they listen to him on 5 Live because he's very funny and cantankerous is a weirdly endearing sort of way. So, be quiet. What kind of a name is Travisbickle, anyway?

  • Jesus, chill out mate, or at least go paintballing to suppress your violent thoughts.

  • Kermode=Genius

    Rambo fans= Morons.

    Simple

  • what an ignorant thing to say.

  • Dr Cruel: I don't think Kermode really cares about being insulted, he actually said once, "type in the words 'Kermode' and 'idiot' to Google and see what you get" because he appreciates the fact that people don't like him, he's an antagonist.

    I sometimes get the feeling that he is contrary for the sake of it, but I reckon that mostly he knows what he's going on about. The one thing I admire about him is that he's not precious about any particular film, he's fully prepared to love or hate

  • any film (for example, he surprised most of his fans by immensely enjoying High School Musical 3 and Mamma Mia, whilst not particularly caring for box office smashes such as The Dark Knight).

    Personally I think he's a very considerate and succinct film reviewer - perhaps he is a little arrogant, maybe he has something like a right to be.

  • he is right though

  • And how did Rocky manage to win Best Picture Oscar and Taxidriver didn't!? Rocky is terrible.

  • You can't call a film cheese if it takes so much effort into being so realistically graphic and brutal.This isn't 80's action. More like 70's grindhouse.

  • how is he morally repugnant? and how is he stupid?

  • Imagine that the action of the movie was set in Chechenia, Afghanistan or Iraq - how would you feel then ? It takes place in such an exotic place that an average moviegoer has no emotional connection to it whatsoever.Only because of that you enjoy it.

  • I think he is right for most part.Violence represented in this has no other purpose than to direct audiences hatred towards the antagonists and then provide satisfaction as they suffer the same horrible things they did to their victims.Well, we make the bad guys inhumane so as to justify the utterly ridiculous way in which we are going to (over)kill them.You know there is a limit.

  • I get what he is saying. This film is terrible. BUT. I loved it. I knew exactly what I was going to get when I walked in, and I got it!

    Cheesy over the top stupid action once in a while is fantastic!

  • This video is not available in your country!!!

    What the fuck!

    Fuck you youtube

  • With some the things he said may be true,Rambo 4 is stil is better than the so-called action movies from the last few years

  • ok...

  • Hi! For everyone who is a Kermode fan & hasn't seen the vid on my page please click on my name and watch and enjoy!

    This is from when he came to my uni & gave a "Kermodian" talk at its finest to a room of salivating film students, eager for no holds barred Kermode opinions on the good, the bad and the ugly of all things filmmaking.

    Please commment and rate & if you have the time please do the same for my other work! I'm keen to hear from the online community and use it to improve.

    Enjoy

  • Stallone made a spoof, uniting elements that Kermode admits he recognises, of what the UK censor called 'Video Nasties' back in the day and his own image. It's so much cleverer than you think Dr. Kermode.

  • Yeah, "Dr."

  • First Blood was the only decent Rambo film. The rest are just American Masturbation films.

    Kermode is a Legend.

  • this guy is a hack. rambo was one of the rare action movies that was actually good.

  • i enjoyed rambo.its about time we got a good old 80's style shoot em up back in the cinema,at least it is one less screen clogged up with hip indie-kid crap like juno.i enjoy the likes of fellini's 8 1/2 and citizen kane,but i also enjoyed this film.

  • wow,buddy.  relax. have a hug.

  • Mark Kermode= Legend!

  • I don't think you realise who this guy is. His opinion is more valid than most, even when I disagree with it.

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  • Rambo is pornographic violence, not a movie.

  • yeah it is a movie, the violence was put there for a reason.

  • Yes, to entertain dolts.

  • Wrong, it's Pro-American chauvinistic crap. Some shirtless mongoloid with a paralyzed face killing everyone in sight with a bow and arrow isn't realistic. Wherever it's set is irrelevant anyway, they could of chosen any god forsaken war torn place and it would of been the exact same movie.

  • why cant anybody appreciate anything for what it is anymore?

  • Maybe pro-communist/islamist french movie would be better for your taste?

    "arrow isn't realistic. "

    It's not supposed to be realistic. Sorry, but you are just another elitist and your opinion does not matter.

  • Nobody's opinion really matters on here, dickhead.

    So i'm "pro-communist/islamist" because i find films which present Americans as ripped, fearless, conquers who defeat the evil, corrupt foreigners to be ignorant and in poor taste?

    If thats the case then just can call me Vladmir Bin Laden..

    I don't just mean Rambo films either.

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  • shit like that happens somewhere on earth, stallone just wanted us to be aware of that, rather if its true or not, shit like that happens~ lol

  • In which case sign me up for a monthly subscription, a bag of popcorn, and a box of condoms.

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