I'm not sure if spanking is abuse or not, but just because in the past was acceptable to some extent does not mean that it wasn't still abuse then. Way back in the day in America, children used to work coal mines 7 days a week with crazy hours. It may have been socially accepted, but that does not mean that it was not wrong. African American's in the south used to have to use different water fountains and different bathrooms, etc, just because of their race. Was that right as well?
Parents who spank are 3 times more likely to use physical abuse?, It is pretty disturbing that spanking is consider rather an acceptable way of "education" than fysical abuse against children on the first place.
Thats deez digital kids problem now when I was kid in the 80's we got beat with sticks, belts, extention cords, and anything else parents could get there hands on what makes it child abuse now.
My father stared out by trying to spank me and ended up assaulting me.i didnt no what to do; he had me pinned onto a bed and was trying to get on top of me.i kicked him off tho.
yea im the type of person who just gets tired of the same stuff but my parents mix things up they would use thier hands then its raises and turns into a belt the changes into a 2 by 4 ( wood) then it gets worse im sick of it and i feel bad for my older siblings they got it worse as a child.
Violence begets violence, what do people expect? All this spanking debate is NOT a debate. It is people who know, versus ignorant people who have no idea what they are talking about. I'd take the empirical study that examined thousands of kids and found negative effects, over the parents who raised two kids and insist they are good people, any day.
@UnschoolingEagle You are spot on. We're talking about knowledgable people who've done their diligent research on spanking versus ignorant people who have not.
Wow then you must have some MAJOR issues. It makes you feel better humm well thats not at all surprising. You probabaly enjoy hurting your own flesh and blood huh? Well I surguest you change your ways and act like a parent is supose to act. Yet even then... they'll always.... ALWAYS remember the way you hurt them. And that feeling will NEVER go away. So change your ways... or have fun roating in hell.
we are ready for debate. corporal punishment is absolutely wrong. try spanking or hitting an adult and see how far it gets you; children need MORE protection for their vulnerable bodies and minds, NOT LESS. There are other and absolutely positive ways of directing children which leaves their self-esteem intact, and if a parent isn't able to deal with normal behavior of children, they shouldn't have children or get someone else to care for them properly. There's no shame in getting help.
This is complete and utter bull shit. Kids need to get spanked now a days, far too spoiled. Kids who don't get spanked slam the door in parents faces, swear at them non stop and other dis respectful things. I agree if it goes past spanking it's unacceptable but people treat a light hit on the butt as abuse. Toughen up people.
i think if you listened to the video you'd realize that the study acknowledged the difference.
Also, you can't make a blanket statement about the behavior of children who are spanked or not. I know many kids who aren't physically disciplined that are very respectful, and many kids who are hit that are wild.
This is stupid..bringing religion into spanking? =-= If a child does something stupid, you NEED to punish them (note, "punish" - not "abuse") So that they'll realize it was bad and learn not to do it again in the future. The laws in this country and the preaching are so ass backwards. The same people who bitch that children need to be punished more are the same people who turn old school spankings into an abuse scandal. It's Bullshit! Kids these days are so spoiled and NEED an ass whipping.
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it is a SIN not to spank your kid! spanking is not abuse! the BIBLE says if you don't spake your kids you hate them! (because they'll end up demonic little satanist)
ok heres the real chart!
parrents tho don't spank there child %2 child abusers.
parrents who spank there child 12% child abusers.
CHRISTIAN parrents who spank there children 0% child abusers.
"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them... ...all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you"
Yes, let us kill our children, I mean it is in the BIBLE (a book of fairy tells and sky wizards)
@UnschoolingEagle imm not a person who reads the bible a lot because most of it in there is just loads of shit but proverbs is the most senseable chapter but the bible is not a tale its a book of wisedom so its not a stroy at all.
I can tell by your language ,violent attitude and overall likability that it must have really worked for you when you got spanked. Thanks for being such a great example to the great results that spankings get
haha, so true! I love it when people who were spanked say how it worked so well for them and how it made them turn out so great, and then they proceed to act like a 5 year old and throw a big temper tantrum if anyone disagrees with them, cursing at them and calling them names. Looks like their parents should have spent less time hitting them and more time teaching them some manners!
Tradition and biblical scripture very rarely line up correctly. the bible is against spanking your child. the old testiment was for hitting them but the new testiment delivered us from all corporal punishment.
People who engage in Gay sex are more likely to die of drug overdoses and spend time in prison than people who don't.Scientifically it is no different claiming spanking "causes" abuse than claiming Gay sex "causes" drugs or crime but as guilt by association it makes great political propaganda for lisping twits
libs have been on this "spanking links to abuse" kick all their pathetic lives. These "experts" are the reason we have the little morons that grow into big morons,, the crime rate we have today and the lack of respect.
Parents are "buddies" they are parents. Don't abuse,, just Spank your child,, big difference.
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There is a HUGE diffrence.I rarely spank my kids, it's a last resort.But if kids become immune to spanking, what makes people think they won't become immune to "time-outs"and groundings as well?.As a parent of 3 I can tell you that ANY form of punishment, used long enough eventually becomes ineffective.I was spanked as a child, but i always knew why it was happening, and so do my kids. we need to be disiciplining our kids out of love, not anger.Thats when corporal punishment becomes abuse.
Your right, any punishing stimulus will be ineffective over time and that includes hitting. This is why the idea of punishment is debated among psychologist because punishment only makes a child pay for their behavior, it doesn't demonstrate proper behavior. For any parent that believe time-out, spanking, and grounding are the only ways to discipline a child are just narrow minded. Look this up:
treats children with kindness, firmness, and respect. Belt, spank, swatting, and all the colorful language that is use to defined as hitting another human being is absolutely disrespectful, don't believe me, go out and when you get hit on your backside, tell me how you feel.
Note: Science has proven that hitting only models hitting and that the debate on corporal punishment in the scientific and psychological community has been dead for a matter of time.
You may not know this, but there is danger in that statement, look, child learns by association, child learns that they are being hit because they are loved, now, for this example, the child is a female, she gets it from her dad, principal, she also let's her boyfriend hit her too. She reasons, when I'm bad, I deserve to be hit because I'm love, my boyfriend hits me because he loves me.
This can go for males too, but girls are typical victims of domestic violence.
Crime rate we have today? You mean the crime rate that is slowly lowering (as spanking becomes less popular) You mean the crime rate that is lower in countries with total spanking bans?
Unlike you though I am not stupid enough to link something as complicated as the crime rate to just corporal punishment, but if you must you still lose... besides, kids raised with logic and reason will be logical and reasonable.
Complete Bullsh:t, let's let the kids tell us what to do. Then when they get older they'll turn into cold-blooded murderers, and kill their own parents when they don't give them what they want.
Kids use violence to get what they want, and we're supposed to sit back and let them rule us?
Old school has been whipping ass for 2000 years, got more crimes now because nobody wants to whip ass anymore.
2012 is a result of massive Parricide, and we all go extinct. And the earth heals.
the reason kids use violence is becouse they learn it from there parents. If hitting a child is harmless disciplein than wouldnt be just as harmless when done to the parent? I was spanked and it caused rebellion in me. I will never respct someone that hits me, idont care who it is that does it.
@guidav123 Not really. I gotta ask what's so violent about spanking? It's not even suppose to hurt the child, the point of it is that it embarasses the child.
@AngelDust155 LOL ! any time someone hits another person with the entent to cause pain it is violence. But doing it to embarrass is not a good thing either. Did you know that human beings have energy fields that are effected greatly by emotions. Did you also know that unresoved negative emotions cause energetic imbalances that cause disease? Emotionally well balanced children are well behaved children because children especially under age ten act out from emotion more that rational thought.
@guidav123 Like I said, spankings aren't suppose to hurt. And also taking toys away and time outs are negative towards kids as well. The point of discipline is to add a negative effect towards the children to let them know what they are doing is wrong. Taking the toys away means they can't have fun, time outs mean they aren't aloud to move or talk or anything, spanking is embarassing. Do you think a child is jumping for joy when you take their toy away?
@AngelDust155 sure there are negative emotions experienced in many things but i'm talking about unresovled negative emotions that come from being attacked by someone . it is unresolved because the parent never apoligizes and makes it right. I use to be all for non violent punishments such as time outs or grounding but having raised my child for ten years so far i have found that bad behavior is not caused by a lack of punishment any more than a head ache is caused by an asprin deficency.
@guidav123 Spanking isn't attacked bro. Also, yes my parents did. After I was spanked, my mom told me what I did wrong and why I was spanked, hugged, lesson learned. And honestly from what I've seen spanking has dropped but bratty children have risen. However, I KNOW I didn't turn out badly. And I KNOW my parents and my friends didn't either.
@AngelDust155 I don't know where you are from but hear in West Virginia everyone spanks their children. I honestly do not know anybody that does'nt .( except me, I have never hit my child nor has anyone else) Yet i can not think of any one that did'nt curse, smoke, drink, maybe even do drugs, get in fights, sleep around ect. yet they all think they turned out great. I guess i just have higher standards.
@guidav123 Well obviously the parents didn't bother to actually RAISE their kids, they decided to spank them only. I don't smoke, never tried any other drugs in my life, I can't stand alcohal nor did I ever BEG to drink some, I've never been in a fight, never had sex (because I don't WANT to) Also, not one of my friends do drugs, drinks a lot, or ever get in fights (few have had sex but I'm 18 and many of them are older than me anyways so)
@guidav123 Because honestly from being spanked I don't see where the all of a sudden earge to drink, have sex, or do drugs pops up. Again, my parents spanked me, but also taught me right from wrong.
@AngelDust155 You say your parents taught you right form wrong, so please explain to me how it is right to hit someone to small to defend themselves and what is right about teaching kids to submit to someone that is bigger and stronger than them?
@guidav123 What part of I'm fine and spanking doesn't hurt don't you understand? And what part of I learned after I was spanked don't you understand. AND how all my friends and family were spanked as a kid, AND how it's a discipline method that has been used for thousands of years and only now do they decide to stop that kids have become much much brattier? So what parts of those did you not get?
@AngelDust155 So you managed to grow up being spanked by some watered down version of it and turned out o.k., Thats like a child growing up with two parents that smoke and not getting lung cancer. your one of the lucky ones. I can see that you learned that violence is the way to solve problems. After thousands of years the human race is just as bad as it ever was( wow it must have worked!) ANd where do you get this idea that kids don't get spanked anymore? Iknow of none other than my own.
@guidav123 Smoke... what? My parents don't smoke. Lucky ONES.. I just gave you proof of nearly everyone I know who weren't harmed in spanking. And no, the human race has gotten worse, crime, teenage pregnancy, and obesity is off it's rocket here in America. And honestly were you spanked? Because if not where is your right to say how it effects me or others?
PLEASE actually read my comment before commenting back because you keep ignoring everything I tell you.
@AngelDust1 Yes i was spanked as a child. I remember even at age eight seeing my father spank my older brother thinking to myself. what an idiot anyone with a brain can see that that don't work. And i was right it made him rebell and to this day they don't have much of a relationship. I have observed it my whole life and have seen evidence of it's harms everywhere i look. I Have never spanked my child nor have i allowed anyone else and She is the best behaved child in her school.
@guidav123 Obviously then your brother wasn't suppose to be spanked. The point of parenting and discipline is knowing your child and knowing what they react better towards. If your brother listened when your dad took some toys away or something than your dad took it too far with the spanking. However I know people who said that they were brats as kids and when they got spanked they learned their lesson. Fact. Not every child needs a spanking. Fact. But some listen better when they do.
@AngelDust155 Love, kindness, compasion, forgiveness, gentleness, mercy, understanding, setting a good example ect. these are the tools one needs to be a good parent not paddles, switches, belts, hands, fist, ect. Anyone with a brain should be able to figure this out .THe guilt and fear that one experiences through punishment especially physical pain causes an imbalance in ones spirit that comes back out later in the form of bad behavior regardless if they realize the connection..
@guidav123 Or just don't. Forget it. You aren't gonna convince me and I'm not gonna convince you. Let's just drop it. Because honestly I'm getting sick of having to repeat myself over and over again and constantly being ignored.
@AngelDust155 you claim that you turned out god and that the spankings did not hurt. what has happened is that your parents watered down the practice to the point where it did'nt have any effect, good or bad. They were simply going through the motions for traditions sake. You love your parents and in your eyes they can do no wrong. This is why you feel the need to justify what they did. Im convinced that you would have turned out just as good had you never got spanked at all ,probably better
@guidav123 Also like I said, I am living proof that spanking doesn't cause any negative emotion towards me. I'm 18 now and I'm not an emotional wreck nor do I regret my parents spanking me because I deserved it. I thought to myself "What I did was wrong, I shouldn't do it again" Also nearly all my friends were spanked, my parents and their siblings, my grandparents, etc. It caused no negative effects to them. Spanking has been used for THOUSANDS of years my friend.
@AngelDust155 Nobody thinks they turned out badly. I've never met anyone that i was so impressed with that i want my child to turn out like them but i have greater hopes for them. ANd yes spankings have been used for thousands of years (actually spankings are a new concept to take the place of beatings) and they continue to cause the same problems for thousands of years.
Thanks for this.
katheryncruz24 2 months ago
I'm not sure if spanking is abuse or not, but just because in the past was acceptable to some extent does not mean that it wasn't still abuse then. Way back in the day in America, children used to work coal mines 7 days a week with crazy hours. It may have been socially accepted, but that does not mean that it was not wrong. African American's in the south used to have to use different water fountains and different bathrooms, etc, just because of their race. Was that right as well?
xucellent 7 months ago
Parents who spank are 3 times more likely to use physical abuse?, It is pretty disturbing that spanking is consider rather an acceptable way of "education" than fysical abuse against children on the first place.
JMFVECU 8 months ago
Thats deez digital kids problem now when I was kid in the 80's we got beat with sticks, belts, extention cords, and anything else parents could get there hands on what makes it child abuse now.
Allenburn 11 months ago
I'v never heard so much convoluted and misleading information before that was all in just 3 minutes.
gongoozler18 1 year ago
My father stared out by trying to spank me and ended up assaulting me.i didnt no what to do; he had me pinned onto a bed and was trying to get on top of me.i kicked him off tho.
lunaanimekat379 1 year ago
yea im the type of person who just gets tired of the same stuff but my parents mix things up they would use thier hands then its raises and turns into a belt the changes into a 2 by 4 ( wood) then it gets worse im sick of it and i feel bad for my older siblings they got it worse as a child.
calebt1000 1 year ago
Violence begets violence, what do people expect? All this spanking debate is NOT a debate. It is people who know, versus ignorant people who have no idea what they are talking about. I'd take the empirical study that examined thousands of kids and found negative effects, over the parents who raised two kids and insist they are good people, any day.
UnschoolingEagle 2 years ago
@UnschoolingEagle You are spot on. We're talking about knowledgable people who've done their diligent research on spanking versus ignorant people who have not.
ReNuriche 1 year ago
Wow then you must have some MAJOR issues. It makes you feel better humm well thats not at all surprising. You probabaly enjoy hurting your own flesh and blood huh? Well I surguest you change your ways and act like a parent is supose to act. Yet even then... they'll always.... ALWAYS remember the way you hurt them. And that feeling will NEVER go away. So change your ways... or have fun roating in hell.
chloweful 2 years ago
If your a mother or Father and hitting your childrean... you are abusive and qruel.
chloweful 2 years ago
we are ready for debate. corporal punishment is absolutely wrong. try spanking or hitting an adult and see how far it gets you; children need MORE protection for their vulnerable bodies and minds, NOT LESS. There are other and absolutely positive ways of directing children which leaves their self-esteem intact, and if a parent isn't able to deal with normal behavior of children, they shouldn't have children or get someone else to care for them properly. There's no shame in getting help.
shakanunu 2 years ago
This is complete and utter bull shit. Kids need to get spanked now a days, far too spoiled. Kids who don't get spanked slam the door in parents faces, swear at them non stop and other dis respectful things. I agree if it goes past spanking it's unacceptable but people treat a light hit on the butt as abuse. Toughen up people.
latinoheatm8 2 years ago
i think if you listened to the video you'd realize that the study acknowledged the difference.
Also, you can't make a blanket statement about the behavior of children who are spanked or not. I know many kids who aren't physically disciplined that are very respectful, and many kids who are hit that are wild.
awmusic 2 years ago
This is stupid..bringing religion into spanking? =-= If a child does something stupid, you NEED to punish them (note, "punish" - not "abuse") So that they'll realize it was bad and learn not to do it again in the future. The laws in this country and the preaching are so ass backwards. The same people who bitch that children need to be punished more are the same people who turn old school spankings into an abuse scandal. It's Bullshit! Kids these days are so spoiled and NEED an ass whipping.
KaraniKun 2 years ago
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it is a SIN not to spank your kid! spanking is not abuse! the BIBLE says if you don't spake your kids you hate them! (because they'll end up demonic little satanist)
ok heres the real chart!
parrents tho don't spank there child %2 child abusers.
parrents who spank there child 12% child abusers.
CHRISTIAN parrents who spank there children 0% child abusers.
vulture97 2 years ago
The bible also told us to:
"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them... ...all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you"
Yes, let us kill our children, I mean it is in the BIBLE (a book of fairy tells and sky wizards)
UnschoolingEagle 2 years ago 5
@UnschoolingEagle imm not a person who reads the bible a lot because most of it in there is just loads of shit but proverbs is the most senseable chapter but the bible is not a tale its a book of wisedom so its not a stroy at all.
calebt1000 1 year ago
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tahitiannonitreat 2 years ago
Im thorry, but thpanking ith not abuthe.
chancenieland 2 years ago
Theriouthly! :)
epidemicerin 2 years ago
I can tell by your language ,violent attitude and overall likability that it must have really worked for you when you got spanked. Thanks for being such a great example to the great results that spankings get
guidav123 2 years ago 10
haha, so true! I love it when people who were spanked say how it worked so well for them and how it made them turn out so great, and then they proceed to act like a 5 year old and throw a big temper tantrum if anyone disagrees with them, cursing at them and calling them names. Looks like their parents should have spent less time hitting them and more time teaching them some manners!
CherryFrog321 2 years ago 3
thank you! i always enjoy your comments
guidav123 2 years ago
Thanks. :D
CherryFrog321 2 years ago
Tradition and biblical scripture very rarely line up correctly. the bible is against spanking your child. the old testiment was for hitting them but the new testiment delivered us from all corporal punishment.
guidav123 2 years ago 2
People who engage in Gay sex are more likely to die of drug overdoses and spend time in prison than people who don't.Scientifically it is no different claiming spanking "causes" abuse than claiming Gay sex "causes" drugs or crime but as guilt by association it makes great political propaganda for lisping twits
trying to slander traditional family cultures.
Texasjim2007 3 years ago
You don't understand the psychological damage that hitting a kid does.
cas343 3 years ago
spankings ,one of the most sexuall things ever and you call it traditional family cutures.
guidav123 2 years ago
libs have been on this "spanking links to abuse" kick all their pathetic lives. These "experts" are the reason we have the little morons that grow into big morons,, the crime rate we have today and the lack of respect.
Parents are "buddies" they are parents. Don't abuse,, just Spank your child,, big difference.
broman2235 3 years ago
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Liberals hate parents because liberals have low fertility rates due to abortion which has
a 100% probability of killing babies under two. There is nothing more physically abusive to kids than killing them I would think.
Texasjim2007 3 years ago
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There is a HUGE diffrence.I rarely spank my kids, it's a last resort.But if kids become immune to spanking, what makes people think they won't become immune to "time-outs"and groundings as well?.As a parent of 3 I can tell you that ANY form of punishment, used long enough eventually becomes ineffective.I was spanked as a child, but i always knew why it was happening, and so do my kids. we need to be disiciplining our kids out of love, not anger.Thats when corporal punishment becomes abuse.
mom21g2bs 2 years ago
punishment being ineffective:
Your right, any punishing stimulus will be ineffective over time and that includes hitting. This is why the idea of punishment is debated among psychologist because punishment only makes a child pay for their behavior, it doesn't demonstrate proper behavior. For any parent that believe time-out, spanking, and grounding are the only ways to discipline a child are just narrow minded. Look this up:
"Positive Discipline"
This form of discipline focus on solutions.
generalcrash777 2 years ago 2
Positive Discipline:
treats children with kindness, firmness, and respect. Belt, spank, swatting, and all the colorful language that is use to defined as hitting another human being is absolutely disrespectful, don't believe me, go out and when you get hit on your backside, tell me how you feel.
Note: Science has proven that hitting only models hitting and that the debate on corporal punishment in the scientific and psychological community has been dead for a matter of time.
generalcrash777 2 years ago 2
Spank out of love:
You may not know this, but there is danger in that statement, look, child learns by association, child learns that they are being hit because they are loved, now, for this example, the child is a female, she gets it from her dad, principal, she also let's her boyfriend hit her too. She reasons, when I'm bad, I deserve to be hit because I'm love, my boyfriend hits me because he loves me.
This can go for males too, but girls are typical victims of domestic violence.
generalcrash777 2 years ago
Crime rate we have today? You mean the crime rate that is slowly lowering (as spanking becomes less popular) You mean the crime rate that is lower in countries with total spanking bans?
Unlike you though I am not stupid enough to link something as complicated as the crime rate to just corporal punishment, but if you must you still lose... besides, kids raised with logic and reason will be logical and reasonable.
UnschoolingEagle 2 years ago
Save yourself the headache, don't make babies, don't have sex. Then some asshole says, "Wear Condoms, sex is too good to give up."
Who wears condoms really, sex feels too good to put on a condom. AS makemebad35 says, "Just Jerk Off!"
Stop Suffering, refrain from desire.
Vajrasiddha 3 years ago
Complete Bullsh:t, let's let the kids tell us what to do. Then when they get older they'll turn into cold-blooded murderers, and kill their own parents when they don't give them what they want.
Kids use violence to get what they want, and we're supposed to sit back and let them rule us?
Old school has been whipping ass for 2000 years, got more crimes now because nobody wants to whip ass anymore.
2012 is a result of massive Parricide, and we all go extinct. And the earth heals.
Vajrasiddha 3 years ago
the reason kids use violence is becouse they learn it from there parents. If hitting a child is harmless disciplein than wouldnt be just as harmless when done to the parent? I was spanked and it caused rebellion in me. I will never respct someone that hits me, idont care who it is that does it.
guidav123 2 years ago 7
Like what kinda rebellion? Did you turn BD/S&M gay and enjoyed the pain of a slow ass dry fuck?
May your children beat you, rob you and rape you.
Vajrasiddha 2 years ago
@guidav123 I was spanked and it never caused me to be violent. You must of been spanked more often than you should have.
AngelDust155 1 year ago
@AngelDust155 one time is to often.
guidav123 1 year ago
@guidav123 Not really. I gotta ask what's so violent about spanking? It's not even suppose to hurt the child, the point of it is that it embarasses the child.
AngelDust155 1 year ago
@AngelDust155 LOL ! any time someone hits another person with the entent to cause pain it is violence. But doing it to embarrass is not a good thing either. Did you know that human beings have energy fields that are effected greatly by emotions. Did you also know that unresoved negative emotions cause energetic imbalances that cause disease? Emotionally well balanced children are well behaved children because children especially under age ten act out from emotion more that rational thought.
guidav123 1 year ago
@guidav123 Like I said, spankings aren't suppose to hurt. And also taking toys away and time outs are negative towards kids as well. The point of discipline is to add a negative effect towards the children to let them know what they are doing is wrong. Taking the toys away means they can't have fun, time outs mean they aren't aloud to move or talk or anything, spanking is embarassing. Do you think a child is jumping for joy when you take their toy away?
AngelDust155 1 year ago
@AngelDust155 sure there are negative emotions experienced in many things but i'm talking about unresovled negative emotions that come from being attacked by someone . it is unresolved because the parent never apoligizes and makes it right. I use to be all for non violent punishments such as time outs or grounding but having raised my child for ten years so far i have found that bad behavior is not caused by a lack of punishment any more than a head ache is caused by an asprin deficency.
guidav123 1 year ago
@guidav123 Spanking isn't attacked bro. Also, yes my parents did. After I was spanked, my mom told me what I did wrong and why I was spanked, hugged, lesson learned. And honestly from what I've seen spanking has dropped but bratty children have risen. However, I KNOW I didn't turn out badly. And I KNOW my parents and my friends didn't either.
AngelDust155 1 year ago
@AngelDust155 I don't know where you are from but hear in West Virginia everyone spanks their children. I honestly do not know anybody that does'nt .( except me, I have never hit my child nor has anyone else) Yet i can not think of any one that did'nt curse, smoke, drink, maybe even do drugs, get in fights, sleep around ect. yet they all think they turned out great. I guess i just have higher standards.
guidav123 1 year ago
@guidav123 Well obviously the parents didn't bother to actually RAISE their kids, they decided to spank them only. I don't smoke, never tried any other drugs in my life, I can't stand alcohal nor did I ever BEG to drink some, I've never been in a fight, never had sex (because I don't WANT to) Also, not one of my friends do drugs, drinks a lot, or ever get in fights (few have had sex but I'm 18 and many of them are older than me anyways so)
AngelDust155 1 year ago
@guidav123 Because honestly from being spanked I don't see where the all of a sudden earge to drink, have sex, or do drugs pops up. Again, my parents spanked me, but also taught me right from wrong.
AngelDust155 1 year ago
@AngelDust155 You say your parents taught you right form wrong, so please explain to me how it is right to hit someone to small to defend themselves and what is right about teaching kids to submit to someone that is bigger and stronger than them?
guidav123 1 year ago
@guidav123 What part of I'm fine and spanking doesn't hurt don't you understand? And what part of I learned after I was spanked don't you understand. AND how all my friends and family were spanked as a kid, AND how it's a discipline method that has been used for thousands of years and only now do they decide to stop that kids have become much much brattier? So what parts of those did you not get?
AngelDust155 1 year ago
@AngelDust155 So you managed to grow up being spanked by some watered down version of it and turned out o.k., Thats like a child growing up with two parents that smoke and not getting lung cancer. your one of the lucky ones. I can see that you learned that violence is the way to solve problems. After thousands of years the human race is just as bad as it ever was( wow it must have worked!) ANd where do you get this idea that kids don't get spanked anymore? Iknow of none other than my own.
guidav123 1 year ago
@guidav123 Smoke... what? My parents don't smoke. Lucky ONES.. I just gave you proof of nearly everyone I know who weren't harmed in spanking. And no, the human race has gotten worse, crime, teenage pregnancy, and obesity is off it's rocket here in America. And honestly were you spanked? Because if not where is your right to say how it effects me or others?
PLEASE actually read my comment before commenting back because you keep ignoring everything I tell you.
AngelDust155 1 year ago
@AngelDust1 Yes i was spanked as a child. I remember even at age eight seeing my father spank my older brother thinking to myself. what an idiot anyone with a brain can see that that don't work. And i was right it made him rebell and to this day they don't have much of a relationship. I have observed it my whole life and have seen evidence of it's harms everywhere i look. I Have never spanked my child nor have i allowed anyone else and She is the best behaved child in her school.
guidav123 1 year ago
@guidav123 Obviously then your brother wasn't suppose to be spanked. The point of parenting and discipline is knowing your child and knowing what they react better towards. If your brother listened when your dad took some toys away or something than your dad took it too far with the spanking. However I know people who said that they were brats as kids and when they got spanked they learned their lesson. Fact. Not every child needs a spanking. Fact. But some listen better when they do.
AngelDust155 1 year ago
@AngelDust155 Love, kindness, compasion, forgiveness, gentleness, mercy, understanding, setting a good example ect. these are the tools one needs to be a good parent not paddles, switches, belts, hands, fist, ect. Anyone with a brain should be able to figure this out .THe guilt and fear that one experiences through punishment especially physical pain causes an imbalance in ones spirit that comes back out later in the form of bad behavior regardless if they realize the connection..
guidav123 1 year ago
@guidav123 Or just don't. Forget it. You aren't gonna convince me and I'm not gonna convince you. Let's just drop it. Because honestly I'm getting sick of having to repeat myself over and over again and constantly being ignored.
AngelDust155 1 year ago
@AngelDust155 you claim that you turned out god and that the spankings did not hurt. what has happened is that your parents watered down the practice to the point where it did'nt have any effect, good or bad. They were simply going through the motions for traditions sake. You love your parents and in your eyes they can do no wrong. This is why you feel the need to justify what they did. Im convinced that you would have turned out just as good had you never got spanked at all ,probably better
guidav123 1 year ago
@guidav123 Also like I said, I am living proof that spanking doesn't cause any negative emotion towards me. I'm 18 now and I'm not an emotional wreck nor do I regret my parents spanking me because I deserved it. I thought to myself "What I did was wrong, I shouldn't do it again" Also nearly all my friends were spanked, my parents and their siblings, my grandparents, etc. It caused no negative effects to them. Spanking has been used for THOUSANDS of years my friend.
AngelDust155 1 year ago
@AngelDust155 Nobody thinks they turned out badly. I've never met anyone that i was so impressed with that i want my child to turn out like them but i have greater hopes for them. ANd yes spankings have been used for thousands of years (actually spankings are a new concept to take the place of beatings) and they continue to cause the same problems for thousands of years.
guidav123 1 year ago