personally i think this is a good performance. she's playing with musical genuine and quite spontaneous, especially at the rage part near 10:55 the end. This is a piece about love, and i felt her hope and disappointment when in love.
"the winner of First Prize of the 16th International Fryderyk Chopin Piano Competition" ?????
Cette interprétation n'a aucun sens... Les rubatos qui sont plus des "dégueulendos" qu'autre chose, les phrasés étranges, les accents qui n'y sont pas, je comprends pas qu'elle ait eu le prix chopin !
Je préfère ce morceau joué "A tempo" plutôt que de l'entendre comme ça.
“Avdeeva has a very deep understanding of the score, the kind of relationship to the score which no other pianist in this competition had. She looked into the score for her creative ideas. It was the source of virtually everything she did and she was also one of the most consistent competitors throughout the event,” - Kevin Kenner
A few nice phrases here and there... but overall lack of momentum, tension and sincerity. Whatever passion she conveys here is not of Chopin's spirit at all. Weird rubato, tonality and random accents all over the place. I agree with most of the negative comments here. This woman does not deserve first prize.
I agree that the bitter criticism is rooted in something personal and emotional, rather than rational and aesthetic. I think the level of competition was very high in 2010, but Yulianna clearly deserved the first prize because of her technical brilliance plus the emotions communicated in stunning original interpretations, especially in the third stage. In particular, the Op 27 Nocturnes and the b flat minor sonata were so very impressive.
she didn't practice so hard for all her life to have all these terrible criticisms about her. have more empathy since we are all pianists who work hard.
odd performance. very predictable rubati. overly sentimental and at times harsh sound for Chopin. The left hand octaves in the coda felt too "careful". I wish I had heard more musicality and instead of all the right notes.
@Rouzbeht It is interesting how different people can feel the same piece different. Maybe you like the performance of Ingolf Wunder more. He played the same piece in the first round of the Chopin Konkurs, you can find it on the site. But he plays Steinway, she Yamaha. Maybe you will like it more. Personally I have the feeling that Chopin would not be able to play his ballade better than she does.
@bernardgoossens wow....bold statement! so you're saying you like Avdeeva's interpretation better than Cortot's or Joseph Hoffman's? or even pianist of a newer generation like Stephen Hough?
but I guess that's the beauty of arts. if it speaks to you then enjoy. But I think we shouldn't let the standards of a good performance get lost in an era that perfectionism seems to win over artistry.
No sincerity here, just the notes and good phrasings. Very arrogant playing, I don't like it. Ms. Anna Fedorova is on the contrary a perfect example of sincerity and genuine musicianship. That is what music should really be about. Shame that this woman won this competition. This is an insult to the music of Chopin IMO. That shows one thing : competitions do not always reward the ones who really should gain recognition.
Decisamente insopportabile già dalle prime battute!!la musica non va avanti!ogni minimo elemento viene sottolineato con un rubato e tutto ciò produce un effetto "mozzarella filata" degno della migliore pizza napoletana!so che con questo commento mi sono meritato il linciaggio o la gogna in pubblica piazza,ma penso che chopin sia elegante e raffinato,ma non effeminato!non è musica atta agli orgasmi della mimica facciale del 90%dei pianisti o alla loro funambolica e autocompiacente gestualità!!
Decisamente insopportabile già dalle prime battute!!la musica non va avanti!ogni minimo elemento viene sottolineato con un rubato e tutto ciò produce un effetto "mozzarella filata" degno della migliore pizza napoletana!so che con questo commento mi sono meritato il linciaggio o la gogna in pubblica piazza,ma penso che chopin sia elegante e raffinato,ma non effeminato!non è musica atta agli orgasmi della mimica facciale del 90%dei pianisti o alla loro funambolica e autocompiacente gestualità!1
Decisamente insopportabile già dalle prime battute!!la musica non va avanti!ogni minimo elemento viene sottolineato con un rubato e tutto ciò produce un effetto "mozzarella filata" degno della migliore pizza napoletana!so che con questo commento mi sono meritato il linciaggio o la gogna in pubblica piazza,ma penso che chopin sia elegante e raffinato,ma non effeminato!non è musica atta agli orgasmi della mimica facciale del 90%dei pianisti o alla loro funambolica e autocompiacente gestualità!
Decisamente insopportabile già dalle prime battute!!la musica non va avanti!ogni minimo elemento viene sottolineato con un rubato e tutto ciò produce un effetto "mozzarella filata" degno della migliore pizza napoletana!so che con questo commento mi sono meritato il linciaggio o la gogna in pubblica piazza,ma penso che chopin sia elegante e raffinato,ma non effeminato!non è musica atta agli orgasmi della mimica facciale del 90%dei pianisti o alla loro funambolica e autocompiacente gestualità!
Decisamente insopportabile già dalle prime battute!!la musica non va avanti!ogni minimo elemento viene sottolineato con un rubato e tutto ciò produce un effetto "mozzarella filata" degno della migliore pizza napoletana!so che con questo commento mi sono meritato il linciaggio o la gogna in pubblica piazza,ma penso che chopin sia elegante e raffinato,ma non effeminato!non è musica atta agli orgasmi della mimica facciale del 90%dei pianisti o alla loro funambolica e autocompiacente gestualità!!
questa ballata è bellissima, un capolavoro. Ma è anche una delle opere piu' celebrali di chopin.
l'ho studiata tantissimo, ovviamente non ho la pretesa di insegnare niente a nessuno, e non sono certo nella posizione di farlo, ma trovo questa interpretazione decisamente troppo pesante ed esageratamente enfatica.
l'interpretazione giusta non esiste. ma questa proprio non la digerisco.
@Ingot49 it really doesn't matter if you can identify with her rubato or expression. But you should try to learn something here and you have a lot more practicing to do on you etude and nocturne.
@Ingot49 it really doesn't matter if you can identify with her rubato or expression. But you should try to learn something here and you have a lot more practicing to do on your etude and nocturne.
This Ballade is one of the most difficult compositions to play for MANY reasons.In compositions like this you can really understand if a pianist is good or not.Personally my favourite version is that with Zimerman on CD.
A very insightful and intellectual performance. Well done!
ilovetcpjg 2 months ago
She doesn't feel the core spirit of Chopin. She studied the score very well but she is not one of the best Chopin artist.
boshboshluv 3 months ago
Very touching and convincing performance!!! Brava!!!
ilovetcpjg 4 months ago
Poignant and beautifully played, a very convincing performance, among the best I have heard.
davidhertzberg 4 months ago
10:14, O.O
brandon485 4 months ago
personally i think this is a good performance. she's playing with musical genuine and quite spontaneous, especially at the rage part near 10:55 the end. This is a piece about love, and i felt her hope and disappointment when in love.
classicaladmirist 5 months ago
who ever can play it better can criticize all they want...
pianomangabe 5 months ago
sdf
stycklapich 5 months ago
"the winner of First Prize of the 16th International Fryderyk Chopin Piano Competition" ?????
Cette interprétation n'a aucun sens... Les rubatos qui sont plus des "dégueulendos" qu'autre chose, les phrasés étranges, les accents qui n'y sont pas, je comprends pas qu'elle ait eu le prix chopin !
Je préfère ce morceau joué "A tempo" plutôt que de l'entendre comme ça.
stycklapich 5 months ago
“Avdeeva has a very deep understanding of the score, the kind of relationship to the score which no other pianist in this competition had. She looked into the score for her creative ideas. It was the source of virtually everything she did and she was also one of the most consistent competitors throughout the event,” - Kevin Kenner
samcandy64 6 months ago in playlist Chopin 3
A few nice phrases here and there... but overall lack of momentum, tension and sincerity. Whatever passion she conveys here is not of Chopin's spirit at all. Weird rubato, tonality and random accents all over the place. I agree with most of the negative comments here. This woman does not deserve first prize.
teftae 7 months ago
I agree that the bitter criticism is rooted in something personal and emotional, rather than rational and aesthetic. I think the level of competition was very high in 2010, but Yulianna clearly deserved the first prize because of her technical brilliance plus the emotions communicated in stunning original interpretations, especially in the third stage. In particular, the Op 27 Nocturnes and the b flat minor sonata were so very impressive.
samcandy64 7 months ago
she didn't practice so hard for all her life to have all these terrible criticisms about her. have more empathy since we are all pianists who work hard.
xiuje87 7 months ago 3
i love her temperament
BassicStorm 7 months ago
odd performance. very predictable rubati. overly sentimental and at times harsh sound for Chopin. The left hand octaves in the coda felt too "careful". I wish I had heard more musicality and instead of all the right notes.
Rouzbeht 8 months ago
@Rouzbeht It is interesting how different people can feel the same piece different. Maybe you like the performance of Ingolf Wunder more. He played the same piece in the first round of the Chopin Konkurs, you can find it on the site. But he plays Steinway, she Yamaha. Maybe you will like it more. Personally I have the feeling that Chopin would not be able to play his ballade better than she does.
bernardgoossens 8 months ago
@bernardgoossens wow....bold statement! so you're saying you like Avdeeva's interpretation better than Cortot's or Joseph Hoffman's? or even pianist of a newer generation like Stephen Hough?
but I guess that's the beauty of arts. if it speaks to you then enjoy. But I think we shouldn't let the standards of a good performance get lost in an era that perfectionism seems to win over artistry.
Rouzbeht 8 months ago
This is just.......... WOW
bernardgoossens 9 months ago
@Thepianofan.
I agree. Surely Yulianna played this ballade better than Anna.
BUT for an undefined reason I like Anna's rendition more than this one.
I listened both many times and every time fell the same : although Yulianna is superrior technically and flawless, I prefer Anna
It must be the sincerity she has in her rendition totally.
The same for the etude op. 25 n. 11
mpakos18473 9 months ago
No sincerity here, just the notes and good phrasings. Very arrogant playing, I don't like it. Ms. Anna Fedorova is on the contrary a perfect example of sincerity and genuine musicianship. That is what music should really be about. Shame that this woman won this competition. This is an insult to the music of Chopin IMO. That shows one thing : competitions do not always reward the ones who really should gain recognition.
ThePianofan86 10 months ago
Far better than Wunder in this ballade
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Decisamente insopportabile già dalle prime battute!!la musica non va avanti!ogni minimo elemento viene sottolineato con un rubato e tutto ciò produce un effetto "mozzarella filata" degno della migliore pizza napoletana!so che con questo commento mi sono meritato il linciaggio o la gogna in pubblica piazza,ma penso che chopin sia elegante e raffinato,ma non effeminato!non è musica atta agli orgasmi della mimica facciale del 90%dei pianisti o alla loro funambolica e autocompiacente gestualità!!
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Decisamente insopportabile già dalle prime battute!!la musica non va avanti!ogni minimo elemento viene sottolineato con un rubato e tutto ciò produce un effetto "mozzarella filata" degno della migliore pizza napoletana!so che con questo commento mi sono meritato il linciaggio o la gogna in pubblica piazza,ma penso che chopin sia elegante e raffinato,ma non effeminato!non è musica atta agli orgasmi della mimica facciale del 90%dei pianisti o alla loro funambolica e autocompiacente gestualità!1
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Decisamente insopportabile già dalle prime battute!!la musica non va avanti!ogni minimo elemento viene sottolineato con un rubato e tutto ciò produce un effetto "mozzarella filata" degno della migliore pizza napoletana!so che con questo commento mi sono meritato il linciaggio o la gogna in pubblica piazza,ma penso che chopin sia elegante e raffinato,ma non effeminato!non è musica atta agli orgasmi della mimica facciale del 90%dei pianisti o alla loro funambolica e autocompiacente gestualità!
BerlinguerEnrico1921 11 months ago
Decisamente insopportabile già dalle prime battute!!la musica non va avanti!ogni minimo elemento viene sottolineato con un rubato e tutto ciò produce un effetto "mozzarella filata" degno della migliore pizza napoletana!so che con questo commento mi sono meritato il linciaggio o la gogna in pubblica piazza,ma penso che chopin sia elegante e raffinato,ma non effeminato!non è musica atta agli orgasmi della mimica facciale del 90%dei pianisti o alla loro funambolica e autocompiacente gestualità!!
BerlinguerEnrico1921 11 months ago
@BerlinguerEnrico1921
questa ballata è bellissima, un capolavoro. Ma è anche una delle opere piu' celebrali di chopin.
l'ho studiata tantissimo, ovviamente non ho la pretesa di insegnare niente a nessuno, e non sono certo nella posizione di farlo, ma trovo questa interpretazione decisamente troppo pesante ed esageratamente enfatica.
l'interpretazione giusta non esiste. ma questa proprio non la digerisco.
pierchopin 10 months ago
Ingolf Wunder's version is better.
beautyandtruth09 1 year ago
La amo....... es perfecta..
Paulland30 1 year ago
i cant identify with her rubato and expression, unfortunately
love hofmanns version
Ingot49 1 year ago
@Ingot49 it really doesn't matter if you can identify with her rubato or expression. But you should try to learn something here and you have a lot more practicing to do on you etude and nocturne.
galapz 10 months ago
@galapz the op 67 no 4 mazurka by avdeeva sounds great though, like a modern rubato still very good
Ingot49 10 months ago
@Ingot49 it really doesn't matter if you can identify with her rubato or expression. But you should try to learn something here and you have a lot more practicing to do on your etude and nocturne.
galapz 10 months ago
Best Ballade ever!!!=)
Yulian9935 1 year ago 15
Absolutely fantastic playing. I am deeply impressed!!!
KlassikFan2007 1 year ago
why does she play it so dry??????
sovlfrja 1 year ago
@sovlfrja
because there's 'yamaha' word written on piano. and she's just like yamaha... and wunder is like steinway.
mx19idlewilder 11 months ago
alot of jealous comments here
anonymousQ45 1 year ago 14
Sometimes she resembles Judith, Alan's ex- wife on Two and a Half Men TV show.
gustavoreis38 1 year ago
Boooooooring
113AMG 1 year ago
she looks just like chopin
anonymousQ45 1 year ago
@anonymousQ45 yeah! Chopin's nose! she play the Chopin's works very nice but.. i gess something is missing..
zurzica51 1 year ago
@zurzica51 and also a bit like Keri from a show called King of Queens
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This Ballade is one of the most difficult compositions to play for MANY reasons.In compositions like this you can really understand if a pianist is good or not.Personally my favourite version is that with Zimerman on CD.
miliona1re 1 year ago
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miliona1re 1 year ago
I think any of you won't dare to say that you understand more than Martha Argerich does,will you?:))
MuzaPiano 1 year ago
@MuzaPiano agree with you
TheFryderyk1 1 year ago
no comments...... (sigh)
gcaee 1 year ago
would prefer she played a bit less aggressive and obvious but she's ok at narrating.. which isn't bad
acortot 1 year ago
I said once about this piano piece "I will never dare to say I can play the piano until I can play Chopin's Ballade #4".
Chopin's writting has everything. And much more. Inexpressible.
pouetpouetpinpon 1 year ago
Can't say this exactly blew me away.
99hoolio 1 year ago
make 1000 rubatos here and there and you'll win the chopin competition :)
tieroz 1 year ago
@tieroz I totally agree with you,
i'm really disappointed in this last competition!
when i compare this to other past winners like argeirch pollini or zimerman, i'm wondering a lot of things!!!!
ericsteph 1 year ago
@tieroz you said it so right, thats exactly what she was doing. Again, she really has bad taste
MrTheCrusaders 1 year ago
She is absolutely brilliant ! !
golfnten1 1 year ago 2