I would assume that the tactics will be to send F22's, F117's and B2's in first to degrade the enemy AF, and then use the F35's for less well-defended targets.
your graph will show it has hit its stride bigtime. Not having very many failures any more (despite what you hear, the statistic in question is not that bad for a new stealth design.) F35 will be the lynchpin of US Strategy, and it deserves the role. It has an unideal rear aspect stealth ONLY when compared to F22. It's not radar vulnerable in back either, but only somewhat IR vulnerable. The problem of masking heat from the F135engine is costly&=33%faw$&is a US specialty too sensitive to share.
@mrmakemakkara Israel doesn't have the best. Air Force is made up of Fighter Jets, Electronic Warfare, and long range bombers. Israel doesn't have long range bombers. Not to mention their is nothing stealth in the Israeli aresenal. US, Russia, India, Turkey, China, France, UK and many other NATO countries have stealth jets. An F-35 or f-22 can hit a non stealth plane from 8 miles away and you wouldn't know what hit ya. You're fighting with a foot in a bucket with no bombers and stealth.
@MrIhatespork My point is Israel doesn't have an Air Force. Tell me a long range Israeli Bomber. Tell me of a Eletronic Israeli Jet. Tell me of an Israeli Sub Destroyer.
All of the countries listed above have already devoloped and made protoypes. Israel is still dependent on Foreign Aircraft.
Once Israel can get a Long Range Bomber, Atleast a stealth devolopment plan. Then it's not an Air Force. Just a country with multirole 1960's fighters.
@MrIhatespork dude israel has everything coz its bbf the us gives it for free to the latest tech n stuff plus also monery evry yr for its weapons expenditures
@supremejen019 Name the long range bomber Israel has, name the EWF jet they have. Cuba still has WW2 planes and old MiGs but atleast they make up an airforce of bombers and EWF aircraft. US (we) aren't going to continue giving hand outs for much longer, we'll soon be a colony of China.
@MrIhatespork dude israels air force is one of the best air forces inthe world it took out air forces from multiple countries in just six days id like to see another countries air force do that
@texasrangersr1 They have a fighter wing not an Air Force. And the US took out Iraq's 'air force' if you want to call it that in half a day. Have Israel go up against Russia, China, or India. Russia, China, India, and US could do it. They wouldn't get the planes off the ground.
@MrIhatespork technology is only part of what makes an air force deadly sure it has a very important part but what makes an air force even deadlier is its pilots israel has some of the worls best pilots because they are constanly at war they know what tactics are needed to win in a dog fight plus they are probably going to buy F 35s so they will have stealth air craft
@texasrangersr1 God you're dumb man. Listen dogfighting jets don't make up an air force. If Israel had a real air force they would have struck Iran man. Technolgy has nothing to do with it. How can you call F-16's and F-15's an Air Force? Where is your long rang bomber? I never said that Israeli pilots aren't good. I said they have a fighter wing, not an air force. If you're aircraft can only go 600 miles and can only carry 2 A to G munitions is not an air force. F-35 is a piece of shit btw.
@MrIhatespork israel dosent need many long range weapons cause its emnemys are right next door why have a long range slow moving bomber to hit targets in syria when u can have a high speed fighter bomber capable of defending its self cause your enemy is only couple hundred miles away from your border
@texasrangersr1 Yes, he's quite wrong on both scores. Where did you hear the F35 may be going to Israel? I thought this was not going to be, at least for a while..the Prez considers it a risk of ratcheting up tensions.
Perhaps the new Silent Eagle F15SE in a slam eagle or strike eagle version would do 4 now, as the Prez will send the F35's later after deliberating 4 a long time, which is his way and I am damn glad of it.So, what have u heard..are they going to sell Israel F35? When? What type?
Ignorant about F35/USAF/Other Services Strategic doctrine, profound ignorance re:99% of combined asset/netcentric/combined arms doctrine. Furthermore, if you hadn't already discredited yourself I see you know nothing about F35JSF.In concert with AWACS, UAS/V/ISR/AR, P3Orion,F35 adds its unprecedented tech. The F35 is portrayed for politics,money,and ratings as a failure..thats so dumb people will believe something false for someone elses cause. STFU if u are that aviation/military illiterate
F35 is said to be vulnerable to Sukhois and Migs because of supposedly deficient rear aspect stealth. It is said to be too slow, and should have 2 engines. It is commonly perceived to be underachieving in its development and testing. Last 1 first; put the timeline of F35 development on a table and make a graph of the rate over time of the acceleration of the program. B version came back from political death and performed over 300 S/VTOL (yes I said VTOL) landings. 168 in last 2 mnths.
@mindlessfanangelspit Yeah it's good for a middle eastern country. Put them up against a European military which is funded by the EU instead of a simple out dated air force of some arab country. If you mean long time you mean 4 months after 9-11 when SFOD-D found him but didn't have his Northern Alliance back up? Or in Tora Bora a yr later?
@fordfan25 dunno. seems like the p47 would be more of the f15. WAY bigger, bigger loads, a tad faster bigger engine more reliable systems and a tougher engine. of course its just my opinion. but arent we all bias : )
@straighttailpilot i say the f15 is todays p51 just because the p51 was among the best a2a of its day and was focused mainly to a2a just like todays f15. p47 was a good a2a fighter but was best as a mud mover. id say the p47 was the f16 of its day. jack of all trades master of none. Just as the F4U corsair was the f18 of its day. multi role carrier fighter/bomber ;)but eather way its cool. ;P
@fordfan25 ok i can see that. im just saying p51 was sleek fast and most maneuverable. so is the f16. its hard to find something that can keep up with it. multirole just like the p51 but not a jack of all trades like the p47 certainly when it comes to strafing. but everyone wants one it was cheap and easy to maintain compared to most aircraft. Tons of airforces used the p51 as tons of airforces use the f16.
its not that cheap anymore... today they spend more than 50 million per F-16 block 50 to block 62... the Israeli air force may put more than 70 million per F-16I.
@macuss87 well for the navy the f18 was the way to go but a carrier mod of the f16 would have done just as well. both are great med $ multi roll fighters. The f16 has better power to weight and sustained turn the hornet has iirc 2 more hard points for a2a weapons ect and a higher AoA and low speed turn rate.
All good points, though the F-16s power to weight wouldn't be as good in a naval version after being beefed up for carrier use. It's too bad the F-16n's started cracking and such, they were nice little aggressor birds
@myrtlevilleace yes the F18c has a 50NM range advantage. how ever i once heard from a friend in the AF who worked at moody air force base that if AB is engaged much the f16 will last longer in the fight. the f18 has 2 motors vs the f16's 1. of course the f16's 1 motor is larger than the ones used on the f18c. But still that one motor use's less fuel in AB. of course this may or may not be 100% true. just something i heard one time from some one who works on the jets.
That's a good point, I reckon those two F404s would chew a bit of fuel. I guess the thrust to weight ratio is important to. Not sure what it is for each aircraft.
@myrtlevilleace i dont know the numbers but i do know that the f16 has a much better T2W ratio. how ever as i under stand it at very high alt such as say 25k ft the hornet has an edge. same when compairing the f16 to the mig 29. i should point out the mig 29 has better all around performnce than the hornet. but at lower alt the f16 has some adv. sustained turn rate,climb rate,instant turn rate and speed being the big ones. the mig 29 has a higher AoA .
Naturally, the F-16 and A-10, arguably the two finest combat airframes fielded by the U.S. Air Force, literally had to be forced on the Career Blue Suits in the Pentagon. This country owes a tremendous debt to Colonel John Boyd, Pierre Sprey, and the other men who comprised the Fighter Mafia and Reform movement. Without Pierre Sprey there would have been no A-10. Without John Boyd, there would have been no F-15, F-16, or stunning maneuverist victories over Saddam Hussein in both Gulf Wars.
i would like to enquire about the principal designer who established the concept of the f-16 and a-10 if you have any info.i had read about a formula they used to derive efficiency models for combat systems (which gave rise to the f-16 and a-10) architectures. i see you are very knowledgeable. thanks for the pointer if you have any.
The F-16 is the best multirole jet fighter of all time! The "Viper" is a MIG-Killer! The F-16 is scheduled to remain in service with the US Air Force until 2025. Keep it up!
Will Lyman also narrated "Little Children"
shamalamadingdong76 4 months ago
TIME TO PUMPB SADDAM LOL!!
OR
PUMBS OVER BAGHDAAAAADDDD!! :P
Nelis1992 5 months ago
SAUDI FUCKIN ARABIA!
bhushan790 5 months ago
@DeadBull17 I prefer the 14 in pure looks. Foolowed by the 16 then 18
Antifaith29 5 months ago
4:01 To Hussain!!
Barack Hussain For Downing Your Economy!! :D
Aaadil8 6 months ago
hhahaahahh high five saudi's
turksarejewsbutworse 6 months ago
Saudi fuckers dont like woman working? They can go fuck themselves in the asshole and blow up.
Fking greedy oil licking sexist cavemen living in the stone age. We dont need their kind, their values/beliefs or their religion.
vballpr0 6 months ago
How many flares can a fighter jet hold?
blacklightning98 6 months ago
@blacklightning98 The only numbers I can find for the f-16 range between 60 and 120 chaff, and 30 -60 flares, depending on model
atjnAdfhhjea 4 months ago
@atjnAdfhhjea Thank you very much for the information!
blacklightning98 4 months ago
hahaaha pumbs. I dont know why but thats hilarious.
chicago85bearz 6 months ago
the PUMB is going off in your face lol
everythingman987 6 months ago
Dropping pumbs all over the world.
Nickodemusodurn 7 months ago 2
This is a EPIC fail of spelling "The F16 has multi mission capability ,in other words it could all so drop PUMBS" look at 2:19
ActiveXx22 7 months ago 2
I would assume that the tactics will be to send F22's, F117's and B2's in first to degrade the enemy AF, and then use the F35's for less well-defended targets.
jim62sch 7 months ago
your graph will show it has hit its stride bigtime. Not having very many failures any more (despite what you hear, the statistic in question is not that bad for a new stealth design.) F35 will be the lynchpin of US Strategy, and it deserves the role. It has an unideal rear aspect stealth ONLY when compared to F22. It's not radar vulnerable in back either, but only somewhat IR vulnerable. The problem of masking heat from the F135engine is costly&=33%faw$&is a US specialty too sensitive to share.
newmanfrigan 7 months ago
this is how fighetr jet should look like. no doubt F-16 the best fighter jet
UltraGaming786xD 8 months ago
@UltraGaming786xD I think the F-22 is better, but it is too expensive.
mindlessfanangelspit 8 months ago
@mindlessfanangelspit bro f16 so far is the mot succesfull aircraft. i mean its used all over the world.
UltraGaming786xD 8 months ago
@UltraGaming786xD yeah I agree with you on that, but the f22 is much more agile and can do more since the vectored thrust.
mindlessfanangelspit 8 months ago
when its says you can drop bombs the captions say pumbs
asianwholikesplanes 8 months ago
Now Japan has the Mutsubishi F2
it's a better version of the F16 !!
keykikoo 10 months ago
this is the COOLEST plane ever! no doubt, the design is briliant
gtlbc 1 year ago
congratulations for killing people...
maloyas 1 year ago
why do you have to tag someone else's work????????
god I hate that.
Bluesman069 1 year ago
SHALOM ISRAEL AIR FORCE IS THE BEST
mrmakemakkara 1 year ago
@mrmakemakkara fly without a forskin!
ollonsvin 1 year ago
@mrmakemakkara Israel doesn't have the best. Air Force is made up of Fighter Jets, Electronic Warfare, and long range bombers. Israel doesn't have long range bombers. Not to mention their is nothing stealth in the Israeli aresenal. US, Russia, India, Turkey, China, France, UK and many other NATO countries have stealth jets. An F-35 or f-22 can hit a non stealth plane from 8 miles away and you wouldn't know what hit ya. You're fighting with a foot in a bucket with no bombers and stealth.
MrIhatespork 1 year ago
@MrIhatespork
Those countries do not have operational stealth jets at moment.
MokomaSusi 11 months ago
@MrIhatespork My point is Israel doesn't have an Air Force. Tell me a long range Israeli Bomber. Tell me of a Eletronic Israeli Jet. Tell me of an Israeli Sub Destroyer.
All of the countries listed above have already devoloped and made protoypes. Israel is still dependent on Foreign Aircraft.
Once Israel can get a Long Range Bomber, Atleast a stealth devolopment plan. Then it's not an Air Force. Just a country with multirole 1960's fighters.
MrIhatespork 11 months ago
@MrIhatespork dude israel has everything coz its bbf the us gives it for free to the latest tech n stuff plus also monery evry yr for its weapons expenditures
supremejen019 10 months ago
@supremejen019 Name the long range bomber Israel has, name the EWF jet they have. Cuba still has WW2 planes and old MiGs but atleast they make up an airforce of bombers and EWF aircraft. US (we) aren't going to continue giving hand outs for much longer, we'll soon be a colony of China.
MrIhatespork 10 months ago
@MrIhatespork dude israels air force is one of the best air forces inthe world it took out air forces from multiple countries in just six days id like to see another countries air force do that
texasrangersr1 7 months ago
@texasrangersr1 They have a fighter wing not an Air Force. And the US took out Iraq's 'air force' if you want to call it that in half a day. Have Israel go up against Russia, China, or India. Russia, China, India, and US could do it. They wouldn't get the planes off the ground.
MrIhatespork 7 months ago
@MrIhatespork technology is only part of what makes an air force deadly sure it has a very important part but what makes an air force even deadlier is its pilots israel has some of the worls best pilots because they are constanly at war they know what tactics are needed to win in a dog fight plus they are probably going to buy F 35s so they will have stealth air craft
texasrangersr1 7 months ago
@texasrangersr1 God you're dumb man. Listen dogfighting jets don't make up an air force. If Israel had a real air force they would have struck Iran man. Technolgy has nothing to do with it. How can you call F-16's and F-15's an Air Force? Where is your long rang bomber? I never said that Israeli pilots aren't good. I said they have a fighter wing, not an air force. If you're aircraft can only go 600 miles and can only carry 2 A to G munitions is not an air force. F-35 is a piece of shit btw.
MrIhatespork 7 months ago
@MrIhatespork israel dosent need many long range weapons cause its emnemys are right next door why have a long range slow moving bomber to hit targets in syria when u can have a high speed fighter bomber capable of defending its self cause your enemy is only couple hundred miles away from your border
texasrangersr1 7 months ago
@texasrangersr1 Yes, he's quite wrong on both scores. Where did you hear the F35 may be going to Israel? I thought this was not going to be, at least for a while..the Prez considers it a risk of ratcheting up tensions.
Perhaps the new Silent Eagle F15SE in a slam eagle or strike eagle version would do 4 now, as the Prez will send the F35's later after deliberating 4 a long time, which is his way and I am damn glad of it.So, what have u heard..are they going to sell Israel F35? When? What type?
newmanfrigan 7 months ago
@newmanfrigan look up f35 on wikipidea they are interested in purchasing it
texasrangersr1 7 months ago
Ignorant about F35/USAF/Other Services Strategic doctrine, profound ignorance re:99% of combined asset/netcentric/combined arms doctrine. Furthermore, if you hadn't already discredited yourself I see you know nothing about F35JSF.In concert with AWACS, UAS/V/ISR/AR, P3Orion,F35 adds its unprecedented tech. The F35 is portrayed for politics,money,and ratings as a failure..thats so dumb people will believe something false for someone elses cause. STFU if u are that aviation/military illiterate
newmanfrigan 7 months ago
F35 is said to be vulnerable to Sukhois and Migs because of supposedly deficient rear aspect stealth. It is said to be too slow, and should have 2 engines. It is commonly perceived to be underachieving in its development and testing. Last 1 first; put the timeline of F35 development on a table and make a graph of the rate over time of the acceleration of the program. B version came back from political death and performed over 300 S/VTOL (yes I said VTOL) landings. 168 in last 2 mnths.
newmanfrigan 7 months ago
@MrIhatespork Israel has a pretty good airforce though, they can take out multiple countries in 6 days. It took us a long time to find one person.
mindlessfanangelspit 8 months ago
@mindlessfanangelspit Yeah it's good for a middle eastern country. Put them up against a European military which is funded by the EU instead of a simple out dated air force of some arab country. If you mean long time you mean 4 months after 9-11 when SFOD-D found him but didn't have his Northern Alliance back up? Or in Tora Bora a yr later?
MrIhatespork 8 months ago
@MrIhatespork it took us longer than it should have to capture and kill him
mindlessfanangelspit 8 months ago
what the fucks with the captions
Ravanger1 1 year ago
@Ravanger1 FOR THE FOREIGNERS...
ClarksonsinUSA 1 year ago
@ClarksonsinUSA shut up
HopHipRocker 1 year ago
I miss this show. Wings over the Gulf. watching this as a 10 year old kid!!!
AeroSail727 1 year ago
F-16 reminds me of the p51 back in the day!
straighttailpilot 1 year ago
@straighttailpilot F15 would be closer to todays version of a p51 ;)
fordfan25 1 year ago
@fordfan25 dunno. seems like the p47 would be more of the f15. WAY bigger, bigger loads, a tad faster bigger engine more reliable systems and a tougher engine. of course its just my opinion. but arent we all bias : )
straighttailpilot 1 year ago
@straighttailpilot i say the f15 is todays p51 just because the p51 was among the best a2a of its day and was focused mainly to a2a just like todays f15. p47 was a good a2a fighter but was best as a mud mover. id say the p47 was the f16 of its day. jack of all trades master of none. Just as the F4U corsair was the f18 of its day. multi role carrier fighter/bomber ;)but eather way its cool. ;P
fordfan25 1 year ago
@fordfan25 ok i can see that. im just saying p51 was sleek fast and most maneuverable. so is the f16. its hard to find something that can keep up with it. multirole just like the p51 but not a jack of all trades like the p47 certainly when it comes to strafing. but everyone wants one it was cheap and easy to maintain compared to most aircraft. Tons of airforces used the p51 as tons of airforces use the f16.
straighttailpilot 1 year ago
@fordfan25 ok... Not gonna argue about such a trivial thing. To me reminds me of the p47 thats that.
straighttailpilot 1 year ago
@straighttailpilot hay relaxe buddy just friendly banter.
fordfan25 1 year ago
What's the full name of this documentary?
Looks like a follow-up to Discovery Channel's excellent Wing over the Gulf special.
gilh1986 1 year ago
speed isn't everything
annoyingapple8 1 year ago
its not that cheap anymore... today they spend more than 50 million per F-16 block 50 to block 62... the Israeli air force may put more than 70 million per F-16I.
wizzzer1337 1 year ago
Gots to love the f-16, and of course f-15's and f/a-18's!
johnnymclaneutah 1 year ago
the 16 is a nice little toy for the air force, but i'd stick with a hornet.
macuss87 1 year ago
@macuss87 well for the navy the f18 was the way to go but a carrier mod of the f16 would have done just as well. both are great med $ multi roll fighters. The f16 has better power to weight and sustained turn the hornet has iirc 2 more hard points for a2a weapons ect and a higher AoA and low speed turn rate.
fordfan25 1 year ago
@fordfan25
All good points, though the F-16s power to weight wouldn't be as good in a naval version after being beefed up for carrier use. It's too bad the F-16n's started cracking and such, they were nice little aggressor birds
macuss87 1 year ago
@macuss87 dont forget the f16n's had much more time in high G states than the avr f16 ;) its no wounder thay had issues after awhile.
fordfan25 1 year ago
@fordfan25
My understanding is that the F/A-18 has better range than the F-16- a critical factor for a naval aircraft.
myrtlevilleace 1 year ago
@myrtlevilleace yes the F18c has a 50NM range advantage. how ever i once heard from a friend in the AF who worked at moody air force base that if AB is engaged much the f16 will last longer in the fight. the f18 has 2 motors vs the f16's 1. of course the f16's 1 motor is larger than the ones used on the f18c. But still that one motor use's less fuel in AB. of course this may or may not be 100% true. just something i heard one time from some one who works on the jets.
fordfan25 1 year ago
@fordfan25
That's a good point, I reckon those two F404s would chew a bit of fuel. I guess the thrust to weight ratio is important to. Not sure what it is for each aircraft.
myrtlevilleace 1 year ago
@myrtlevilleace i dont know the numbers but i do know that the f16 has a much better T2W ratio. how ever as i under stand it at very high alt such as say 25k ft the hornet has an edge. same when compairing the f16 to the mig 29. i should point out the mig 29 has better all around performnce than the hornet. but at lower alt the f16 has some adv. sustained turn rate,climb rate,instant turn rate and speed being the big ones. the mig 29 has a higher AoA .
fordfan25 1 year ago
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stupid fucking saudis when a woman army kicks there ass owned
ultimate56 2 years ago
thank you.
stormfirez 2 years ago
Naturally, the F-16 and A-10, arguably the two finest combat airframes fielded by the U.S. Air Force, literally had to be forced on the Career Blue Suits in the Pentagon. This country owes a tremendous debt to Colonel John Boyd, Pierre Sprey, and the other men who comprised the Fighter Mafia and Reform movement. Without Pierre Sprey there would have been no A-10. Without John Boyd, there would have been no F-15, F-16, or stunning maneuverist victories over Saddam Hussein in both Gulf Wars.
bravo0105 2 years ago 27
@bravo0105 hello bravo0105,
i would like to enquire about the principal designer who established the concept of the f-16 and a-10 if you have any info.i had read about a formula they used to derive efficiency models for combat systems (which gave rise to the f-16 and a-10) architectures. i see you are very knowledgeable. thanks for the pointer if you have any.
jeetendrag10acc2 1 year ago
@bravo0105 Just a small correction there, Gulf invasions, not Gulf wars.
svirrsvarr 1 year ago
The F-16 is the best multirole jet fighter of all time! The "Viper" is a MIG-Killer! The F-16 is scheduled to remain in service with the US Air Force until 2025. Keep it up!
cyberarmy007 2 years ago
F-16 was the past , the future is something else.. Guess ??? what it might be ?
geniouspaki5 2 years ago
Thanks for uploading the video...Thanx a lot..
yasirbhojani 2 years ago 9
I love this plane - (reasonably) cheap and does the job, what more can you ask?
vodkasvictim 2 years ago
Many thanks to this video!Great idea the subtitles!
nonostormo 2 years ago 2
F-16 Fighting Falcon is a multirole jet fighter aircraft originally developed by General Dynamics for the United States Air Force
jafalks 2 years ago
Thanks for this great video my country has allso f 16 made in usa,,, great airplane to teach the sllaviks a great lesson they won't forget,,,
albob1o2 2 years ago