Beth Tweddle (GBR) - 2009 Euros EF UB

[juliepatchoulie]

I'm am an aged ex-gymnast and I must say, this is one of the most solid, dynamic bar routines I've ever seen. Her strength, flexibility and power are amazing. If I could go back in time, this is my dream routine. To see a gymnast demonstrate such unbelievably incredibly complex transitions is such a magical thing to behold.

While the Chinese have always been amazing on bars, the current roster, undeniably talented, have yet to find their own voice due to very young age and physical immaturity.

[kras118]

love this routine!!

[tedsler]

Beth Tweddle, YOU ROCK!

I hope you keep injury free for a couple more years and feel you have new goals to fulfill in gymnastics!

Show all the new girls what gymnastics is all about :)

[Rebeccabwfc]

Anyone know how tall Beth is?

[Ahashots1]

He kexin is also not 16. Not even close. Remotely.

[panicatthediscoxgirl]

Beth is an all around good gymnast. Some excel in bars or beam, but she is just... wow. I mean, LOOK! It's just one skill after another! I loved the geinger. She had good form in those.

[ragenkajen]

holy shit that was insane!

[mimibarn]

wota girl!

[AirlockMinibus]

beautiful routine :)

[mrparts]

wow i didnt know she was doing the khorkina transition!

[humbersidehusky]

Everyone makes a big deal about He Kexin combining release moves, but Beth does it more and I think Beth's routine is more dynamic.

[catLanding]

WOW

[xToyahBabeGymnastx]

shes amazzeeeeee xxxx

[desglacons]

I love her bar work! I thought she deserved a medal in Beijing!

[norajthx]

its 6.7 with this exercise? so what is the routine of he kexin with 7.4? O__o

[ThePenguin888]

I have it in my channel, it's from the 2009 Japan Cup.

[tombarnes123]

Well her routine isnt going to be a 6.7! shes planning on doing toe on tkatchev pike, her routine is longer than this now! just wait until you see her at worlds!

[christiandiaz7]

the toe on tkatchev pike gives at her routine only 0.1 more.

[tombarnes123]

...and you'll find 0.1 makes a huge difference in an event final.

[christiandiaz7]

Isnt suficient to reach He Kexin,

[tombarnes123]

shes not just adding a toe on pike tkatchev she was trainin double doubles on podium trainin her routine is going to be more difficult than this!

[mrparke007]

Hmmm. I just realized that's not an Ezhova after the toe-on Tkatchev 1/2. It's a straddle back with with a 1/2 (rotating through the horizontal plane, not vertical like a Pak/Ezhova would). She shouldn't get the same letter value as an Ezhova since the skill Beth is doing is easier.

[boynextdoor108]

wouldn't it technically be a Khorkina in reverse?

[mrparke007]

I don't think so. A Khorkina is a Shaposh 1/2, which requires counter movement. A Khorkina in reverse would be a straddle back 1/2 (like Beth's), but then a catch on LB in over grip to do the Weiler kip (reverse clear hip) and end in hs. That would be bizarre... not to mention impossible... maybe...

[gymnastlover1998]

wow beth is amaazin xx :)

[amzluvsgym]

wow, does anyone know the SV? (:

[olivialol64]

SV - 7.8

0.1 over Nastia Liukin, He Kexin and Yang Yilin

[amzluvsgym]

thanks!

[ThePenguin888]

That was her start value in 2008.

Here, it was a 6.7. Nastia hasn't competed bars since Beijing, Yang Yilin has been injured, but He Kexin has competed a 7.4 routine.

[mimp4l]

wow shes the first person i've ever seen to do the khorkina skill from the low to high bar besides khorkina...except it looked like she did an even harder version of it...impressive

[Gymbasa]

She Gets all the attention wat about Bexs Beckies coach must be so anoiyed that she's trained her gymnast hard and Dosen't get credit

so 2nd for Her

[ThePenguin888]

Of course Beth get's all the attention, she's Britain's first World Gymnastics Champion. If Beckie ever becomes world champion, then she'll deserve credit. Until then, Beth deserves more.

[xxsianybabezxx]

wow

[kras118]

love her !! so glad she won euros

[AsksOneThing]

This routine is as cool as all get out.

[Blackbeast87]

Oh my God!!!

I neer see such a difficult and perfectely done bars routine!!!

[kelloggx3]

whats her new start value in the new code of points?

[antoine1800]

no one else can beat kim gwang suk ...sorry !

[dunk247]

so is she the first to perform that skill? the toe-on khorkina transition? don't think i've seen that before but saw it twice in this compeition. Afanasyeva did it as well.

[ThePenguin888]

Afanasyeva has done it for over a year now. A girl from the Netherlands did it in Athens and got it named after her (Van Leuwenn?)

[dunk247]

cool. thanks! love it

[dunk247]

looking at it again its actually a Maloney with a half, not a khorkina.

[es1621]

great routine, probably the most difficult being performed this year. The only problem is that in order to be aggressive throughout the whole routine she kind of rushes through her skills and her handstands, so she is really being hit hard in her execution..

[aleksdeabreu]

I love that she went all out for this routine. I prefer her riskier release moves to a routine that squeezes in pirouettes for difficulty. The judges didn't really favor her at the Beijing games because she didn't hit the handstands like Kexin and Nastia, but Beth is far more interesting

[alexzjay]

She is more interesting than Nastia, yes.

[gobendagymbug12]

what was her score?

[laur3nbaby]

She got 15.575, her D score was 6.7 and her E score was 8.875

[mishmash151]

I think that Nastia, He Kexin, Yang Yilin, Ksenia Semenova have better execution but Beths routines are always so much more exciting to watch.

[AnnaPavlovaFan]

Nastia has by far the worst execution (obvious leg separation on all of her inverted giants, bent legs on her giants, lack of flow, huge cowboy, upright feet and deep landing on her dismount). Beth should definitely improve her execution (she was perfect at the 2006 Worlds) but if I had to choose, I'd take Beth's routine anytime. Not only because it's the hardest and most innovative, but also because she takes greater risk and is the least code-whored of the rest.

[alexgym09]

nahhhh, I'd say that's REALLy subjective

ksenia, e.g has a very loose back. with that constant arching, flexed feet on some releases, flingy deltchev, crooked and bent knees on dismount..

HKX and YYL struggle with keepin' up their flow, many abrupt transitions, dead hang, bent arms on uprises... YYL has bad technique on her kips..

I'd say that if beth hits, she has the best execution of all..........but she's also the most likely to miss a lot of handstands or have some big fuckkup like olys

[alexgym09]

to APFan conti

I don't like the term code whore b/c if it were true then everyone would

different bar workers have diff strengths, see beth. her one pirouette (ono) is just plain bad. it has a HUGE leg separation, always late, no arm flair, etc

pirouettes also require the most technical precision, inhuman shoulder flexibility AND are the MOST likely to receive deductions.

e.g. HKX's releases almost NEVER receive deductions, but her pirouettes almost ALWAYS do. that to me, is taking more risk

[AnnaPavlovaFan]

BTW, I wasn't referring to Liukina (thx for not calling her Liukin!) when I mentioned code-whored routines; I was referring to Yang Yilin (mostly) and Ksenia Semenova. Amazingly difficult as they may be, the composition of their routines doesn't scream originality to me. I guess it's just a matter of personal taste; I prefer release moves in combination rather than pirouetting skills in combination.

[xochipepe]

About calling her Liukina, though it would be that way in Russian, her family has clearly decided to keep the name masculine in the U.S.

[alexgym09]

to APFan contd

my personal bias is this

my favorite bar workers are HKX and Liukina because I feel their routine have the most variety (so does beth, but I'm turned off by her agressive style)

semenova overdoes it with the inbars and stalders. like someone else below pointed out, seme and yang do like five pirouettes each which to me is excessive

[AnnaPavlovaFan]

Fair enough; what 's a turn-off for you is a turn-on for me (I love Beth's aggressive style). I'm not even remotely close to being subjective, and BTW, my favourite bar workers are He Kexin&Beth. True, pirouetting skills require precision but flight elements require momentum and are far riskier (falls&injuries included). As for Liukina, she consistently lose 0.8+ in built-in deductions, which is huge considering she hardly ever loses a handstand! Plus, her dismount REALLY turns me off!

[willsbob123]

She started from 16.700, HOW?

[Dunntosh]

Meaning her D Score is out of a 6.7? I THINK this is how they got it. (I'm a bit rusty; ESP on UB D Score judging!)

E+E+D-0.4CV

E

E+C-0.2CV

D

C+D-0.1CV

3.5DV+0.7CV+2.5SR = 6.7 Overall D Score. :-)

Not sure though...

[willsbob123]

That's good, lol, but i think it's too low for her, what's happening?

[Dunntosh]

It is mainly because she has taken out her 'Shaposhnikova, to 1/2 turn in flight to handstand on LB, to hiccup' combination. Due to the fact that she only needs 8 highest DV elements, she took that out in favour of the Shapshnikova w/ 1/2 turn. It's cost her not only the two element values, but the .3 CV she got for it too.

[chelseasav]

Can you clarify the abbreviations. Assuming DV=difficulty value and CV=connection value but SR?

[ThePenguin888]

SR = the 5, 0.5 requirements each apparatus has.

[Dunntosh]

Yeah, the abbreviation literally means 'Special Requirements.'

These are 5 elements or things they are required to do in their Uneven Bar routine. If they do them all, they receive an extra 2.5 to the D Score.

[alexgym09]

I am impressed by beth's ability to learn skills very quickly.

I am grateful she brings innovative skills and releases to bars

[Belu013]

wow she won floor and uneven bears?? so cool, beth is amazing :D

[woodybear2000]

Beth is amazing- her routines are exciting and challenging. She has loads of talent, i just really dont want her to retire! She is clearly one of the best in the world. Go BETH!

[ralucagymnast]

Fantastic!! Kudos to Beth's wonderful coach Amanda Kirkby for being so innovative in dreaming up Beth's routines:) Almost every routine Beth unveils has something new and different in it. She HAD to win the gold: nobody else could touch her.

[FireDannyAinge]

Hey Penquin, Where is Beths reaction to the win?

[loaugust]

Great routine!

[espinaca79]

The toe-on tkatchev-yezhova is out of this world!!!

[turckhater]

I think her form has improved quite a bit since Beijing. Here's hoping she continues to work on that...

[KseniaSemenovaFan]

i really like her bar routines but to me she always seems a little bit unclean that´s why she didn´t win the Olympic title!!! I think Ksenia is better than her!!!

[stefan9925]

Clearly beth is the best this time round on both bars and floor and Beth takes alot of risks and does then alot cleaner then the rest of the field I do agree about id cleaner at the olympics she would have won but this time around apart from the up swing on the forward giants where there is leg seperation and sligh hope on the landing there was not to much to deduct...Bring on the worlds

[gabri1001xfin]

i am desagree with you on floor and bars semenova deserves won she did better routines

[ThePenguin888]

Beth easily deserved both victories.

[KseniaSemenovaFan]

that´s true there was not many to deduct and she take a lot of risk and yes she won but i don´t think that she will win another world title not on bars and never on floor because she has to many rivals Ksenia Semenova, Nastia Liukin, Yilin Yang and He Kexin on UB and Chang Fei and Sandra Izbasa, who could win on floor at the Euros but her tripple was downgraded!!!!

I like Beth but to ME Ksenia seemes better not in this final but else where!

[alexzjay]

Of course Beth's better. She's a specialist now. Ksenia is all-arounder.

[FireDannyAinge]

From a Ksenia fan people might wonder if you have a biased view.

Ksenia AND Nastia have much worse form then Beth and Beth is doing real skills unlike Nastia who is pirouetting for points (Ksenia is better then NASTIA in that department)

[tzhang2]

semenova's fan hasn't read the new code yet :)

[alexgym09]

firedanny, beth has a great routine but her execution is not far better than ksenia and nastia. if anything, they are on the same level. but tweddle's straddle casts are not good.... and her ono has a huge leg separation

[hammfan4]

to firedanny:

nastia does 3 (count 'em) pirouettes on bars. that's hardly a lot when ksenia semenova and a few chinese (including yang yilin) are doing FIVE

and I wouldn't say ksenia is "better in that department" when she can't a single pirouette without arching her back

[Athlete065]

What was the score?

[jennygw2]

great job Beth !!!!

(but where's the tabbard? lol)

[isa1285]

congratulations beth!!!

[Idiotles]

good!