@ProgressiveEnemy1 ... Dude! You need to get a life. Seriously. You've been sitting in front of your computer for so long that I think maybe your ass and your brain have fused... Get up, back away from the computer, turn off Faux News, go outside and enjoy some of God's Beauty. Trust me... it'll do you some good to join the real world even for just a few minutes...
I can see him now. " Lets go fight and I will be right behind you everystep of the way" Someone tell this loser to go ahead and lead from the front. Go on out there Bro and fire that first bullet." Talk is cheap. BS is plentiful especially in Tx.
"Extreme politics or being extremely excited about politics... is something we, and the 'royal we' meaning me actually celebrate." "Not a medaphor thats just what she(he) means."
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government
..when a long train of abuses and usurpations....evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government.
..To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
Good and prophetic post with Congresswoman Gabby Giffords' recent assassination attempt. Also very interesting is that Michael Steele (now former chair of the R party) has appeared as a guest on Maddow twice recently (1/27/11 & 1/13/11).
Its gonna be a shitstorm when Obama gets re-elected next year. And yes he is going to be re-elected. Sorry Tea Party, but your outnumbered by sane americans. Palin can't win.
@zzman305 Who the F said Palin, I think come November 2012 Robert Gibbs could even beat Obama and he can't answer a question if his life depended on it. I'd vote for him just so I could see his dumb ass get booted after two months in office.
Makes you wonder why the shooting in Tucson took so long to happen... With people like these, and a major party supporting them and what they say, I'm surprised Tucson was the first 'take back the country' shooting.
@MetzyMom I'm surprised people like you still have the brain power to think when you say a non-conervative who has a mental disorder can still be computed as a conservative and not in the same mental class as you. not any political party just your mental class.
Red or Blue is not the fight, you are one of the main reasons it is painted that way. Get your pet project of don't ask passed and leave. The public deserves better than what you deliver as news.
he has the right to be crazy and say it in public. the real question is why the republicans continue to support him or why anybody would vote for him. it really concerns me that we seem to have lost the common sense to sort these knuckleheads out of the process. dont give them money!!
Such hate & extremism being rationalized should be criminal. Shouting fire in a theater scares possibly a few hundred. This polarizes & terrifies more and is based on much more heinous lies.
@TSxKS This is what you call hate? But Muslims dancing in the street over 9/11, calling for the assassination of authors and cartoonists is what? And where are you on that?
@TSxKS This is what you call hate? But Muslims dancing in the street over 9/11, calling for the assassination of authors and cartoonists is what? And where are you on that?
@TSxKS This is what you call hate? But Muslims dancing in the street over 9/11, calling for the assassination of authors and cartoonists is what? And where are you on that?
@TSxKS This is what you call hate? But Muslims dancing in the street over 9/11, calling for the assassination of authors and cartoonists is what? And where are you on that?
I'm consistently amazed that "Christians" love their guns, & violence is always an option, always the 2nd option (in speeches anyway). The desperation is simply sad & it goes along w/the misused, misconstrued "Don't Tread On Me" attitude from Ben Franklin's Poor Richard's Almanac. It also appears that like the Republicans, they will vote for, Tea Partiers share the same position on all issues including: abortion, gay marriage, social security, unemployment, bailouts & all is Obama's fault.
maddow is the biggest propagandist , going on everyday saying someone in the tea party is gonna be a terrorist when no one does anything but peacefully protest and pick up their trash at rallies. What if the tea party was the like the DNC and RNC protesters? Breaking windows, burning cars, and getting the riot police to come out.
Which DNC and RNC were you watching? The police actions for both those events was fascist and completely working outside of the law. Police arrested everyone in the park area in St Paul regardless of who they were, broke into homes of protesters and arrested them for daring to exercise their 1st amendment rights...we live in a police state now, you better watch where you step, even if you are protesting peacefully.
@chewbaca1989, I'm curious where your suggested right of armed insurrection exists, since the conservative majority in Heller v. D.C. expressly limited the 2nd Amend. right to bear arms to "expressly lawful purposes" (citing home defense as its main example) and said the right to carry did not extend to gov't buildings, machine guns, short-barreled shotguns, and was further limited to the type of weapons "'in common use at the time [1787]' for self defense." Wow, I can't wait to see that fight!
@chewbaca1989, Erratum (mine): the 2nd Amend. case name is "D.C. v. Heller," not vice-versa. You're entitled to your opinion on nullification, but, taking into account well-settled cases like Texas v. White (no right of states to secede), Cooper v. Aaron (federal supremacy of Sup. Ct. decisions over states), and that famous liberal, Antonin Scalia, saying, "If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede," I wouldn't hold my breath on it.
You will recognize my rights to self determination.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
@chewbaca1989, Wow, you can recite the beginning of the Declaration of Independence. Who knew (or cared)? Apparently, you think it somehow meaningfully adds to the conversation. I think if you're actually trying to draw some analogy to present day events, it adds nothing, but, hey, if rote recitation of parts of the Declaration is the best you can do, by all means go for it.
@insightbites My point is that self determination is the implied in this declaration. Federal law can be superseded by determined people, as was English law of the 18th century. You may support Obama or the Feds power grab for the greater good. I oppose it even if I was in the minority, which I'm not, you will observe and respect my rights. And I know you may want to cite the general welfare clause to save face don't do it. Madison wrote extensively on the subject and it won't help your case.
@chewbaca1989, Guess what? I'm not going to cite anything, because it's clear to me that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. As I suspected and you've confirmed, you're just stringing together words you heard somewhere in the remote hope that you'll make some sense (the old "blind squirrel" gambit). People like you, who talk gibberish about "self-determination" (i.e., insurrection) in the absence of real tyranny just demonstrate their profound ignorance of our system of government.
I argue that you can't trample my rights even if I am a minority of the voters of America. If you don't see the usurpation of Habeas corpus as a tyrannical move by the Federal government I don't know what to tell you. Obama now has the power to assassinate men without trial I consider this conversation as over. (I know you'll quantify and defend the assassination as "them" being terrorists, lol)
@chewbaca1989 "I oppose it even if I was in the minority, which I'm not, you will observe and respect my rights"
You are in what majority? 65%(and growing) of welfare and 70% of unemployment cases are people you believe to be in "your group of people", since that is clearly not the case, you are the minority by a big margin. We the majority were screwed by you during 10 long years, and we won't let that to happen again. So, get ready to get your ears fucked up by our swat team trucks.
@lustfordeath If by dumb bitch you mean a Rhodes scholar who was educated at Stanford as well as Oxford and who just emphasized the importance of civil disagreement over violent disagreement, then sure. If you're insisting that our Founding Fathers would today suggest conservatives take up arms against the government instead of, gee, I dunno, voting their way into Congress, then YOU need to re-read the words of our Founding Fathers, as you've grossly misinterpreted them.
@ChurchOfKali66619 dude, the fact that you are against Christians don't mean that everything you are against is the fault of Christians, most things that affect humanity in a negative way are of a Satanic nature. by the way, I can see the three sixes in your handle. Master of confusion, you are everywhere....
@vaguelyreptilian "Why does everyone have to discuss good and evil in judeo-christian terms?"
Did I imply that in my comment? No. Besides that, good and evil can only be discussed in Judeo-Christian terms. There is not good, evil/bad, and even Satan in The book of Satan.
@affiliate30 well, you just said there, that they can only be discussed in judeo-christian terms.
right and wrong would still exist without the idea of a merciful god, or a being wanting to lead us away from said god. Quite simply, as well.
Doing your best to not hurt people: good. Not because anyone's god told me it's good, because I have a moral compass that doesn't rely on somebody else's word.
intentionally injuring, oppressing or manipulating other people to injure or oppress: bad.
@vaguelyreptilian Sr. if you hurt and manipulate somebody who enjoys pain and being manipulated, would that be right or wrong? You could also kill somebody who feels like he or she wants to get killed by somebody, would that be right or wrong?
Do you know that there is people who consider sadists "good", and "righteous people" bad?
I am not saying that you can not control your actions on your own, but it takes a very strong person not to get confused by humans on "right" and "wrong"
the teabaggers, republicans, fox news, etc talk about the nazi's like they reforming the nazi party. they will lead these people by fear, then slaughter every half witted follower who have been duped by their propaganda. this might be a good thing, though. a bunch of slaughtered dumb people who couldn't tell right from wrong, i'm feeling better already...
@ProgressiveEnemy1 ... Dude! You need to get a life. Seriously. You've been sitting in front of your computer for so long that I think maybe your ass and your brain have fused... Get up, back away from the computer, turn off Faux News, go outside and enjoy some of God's Beauty. Trust me... it'll do you some good to join the real world even for just a few minutes...
MetzyMom 2 months ago
I can see him now. " Lets go fight and I will be right behind you everystep of the way" Someone tell this loser to go ahead and lead from the front. Go on out there Bro and fire that first bullet." Talk is cheap. BS is plentiful especially in Tx.
kgkg62 3 months ago
"Extreme politics or being extremely excited about politics... is something we, and the 'royal we' meaning me actually celebrate." "Not a medaphor thats just what she(he) means."
ProgressiveEnemy1 1 year ago
Declaration of...
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government
..when a long train of abuses and usurpations....evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government.
..To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
..He has affected to render the Military
independent of
and superior to the Civil Power.
abz2000123 1 year ago
Good and prophetic post with Congresswoman Gabby Giffords' recent assassination attempt. Also very interesting is that Michael Steele (now former chair of the R party) has appeared as a guest on Maddow twice recently (1/27/11 & 1/13/11).
joshfmason 1 year ago
Its gonna be a shitstorm when Obama gets re-elected next year. And yes he is going to be re-elected. Sorry Tea Party, but your outnumbered by sane americans. Palin can't win.
zzman305 1 year ago
@zzman305 Who the F said Palin, I think come November 2012 Robert Gibbs could even beat Obama and he can't answer a question if his life depended on it. I'd vote for him just so I could see his dumb ass get booted after two months in office.
ProgressiveEnemy1 1 year ago
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"I don't regret setting bombs" Professor William Ayers
That, my friends, is the real face of the lib movement.
CornFedArmen 1 year ago
Makes you wonder why the shooting in Tucson took so long to happen... With people like these, and a major party supporting them and what they say, I'm surprised Tucson was the first 'take back the country' shooting.
MetzyMom 1 year ago
@MetzyMom I'm surprised people like you still have the brain power to think when you say a non-conervative who has a mental disorder can still be computed as a conservative and not in the same mental class as you. not any political party just your mental class.
ProgressiveEnemy1 1 year ago
Red or Blue is not the fight, you are one of the main reasons it is painted that way. Get your pet project of don't ask passed and leave. The public deserves better than what you deliver as news.
fmckadoo 1 year ago
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LIBERALS KILL MORE PEOPLE IN A DAY THAN CONSERVATIVES DO IN A LIFE TIME...IT"S CALLED ...ABORTION.....
djm9063 1 year ago
he has the right to be crazy and say it in public. the real question is why the republicans continue to support him or why anybody would vote for him. it really concerns me that we seem to have lost the common sense to sort these knuckleheads out of the process. dont give them money!!
wizardoflawz 1 year ago
Such hate & extremism being rationalized should be criminal. Shouting fire in a theater scares possibly a few hundred. This polarizes & terrifies more and is based on much more heinous lies.
TSxKS 1 year ago 2
@TSxKS This is what you call hate? But Muslims dancing in the street over 9/11, calling for the assassination of authors and cartoonists is what? And where are you on that?
equsnarnd 1 year ago
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@TSxKS This is what you call hate? But Muslims dancing in the street over 9/11, calling for the assassination of authors and cartoonists is what? And where are you on that?
equsnarnd 1 year ago
Rachel Maddow can lick my sack. If you think this dumb bitch is any sort of credible source by taking clippings from videos you are just as dumb.
haman2486 1 year ago
I'm consistently amazed that "Christians" love their guns, & violence is always an option, always the 2nd option (in speeches anyway). The desperation is simply sad & it goes along w/the misused, misconstrued "Don't Tread On Me" attitude from Ben Franklin's Poor Richard's Almanac. It also appears that like the Republicans, they will vote for, Tea Partiers share the same position on all issues including: abortion, gay marriage, social security, unemployment, bailouts & all is Obama's fault.
eqsmooth 1 year ago
I like that they find the one or two black people in a sea of white supremacist rednecks and put them on TV for the Tea Party.
DannyGrowth 1 year ago
maddow is the biggest propagandist , going on everyday saying someone in the tea party is gonna be a terrorist when no one does anything but peacefully protest and pick up their trash at rallies. What if the tea party was the like the DNC and RNC protesters? Breaking windows, burning cars, and getting the riot police to come out.
Chslosers 1 year ago
@Chslosers
Which DNC and RNC were you watching? The police actions for both those events was fascist and completely working outside of the law. Police arrested everyone in the park area in St Paul regardless of who they were, broke into homes of protesters and arrested them for daring to exercise their 1st amendment rights...we live in a police state now, you better watch where you step, even if you are protesting peacefully.
DannyGrowth 1 year ago
Its like a toilet over-flowing....tea party, broden, paladino and the other right turds raising stink and stool.
Stablemable2 1 year ago
Broden, is correct. If government violates our rights it is the duty of Dems and Reps to challenge the authority.
2nd is there not for hunting, collecting, or just personal protection.
Why don't the Dems, I'm sorry it's the Libs that don't like it. Sorry to Dems, not all of you see this as a threat to you.
chewbaca1989 1 year ago
@chewbaca1989, I'm curious where your suggested right of armed insurrection exists, since the conservative majority in Heller v. D.C. expressly limited the 2nd Amend. right to bear arms to "expressly lawful purposes" (citing home defense as its main example) and said the right to carry did not extend to gov't buildings, machine guns, short-barreled shotguns, and was further limited to the type of weapons "'in common use at the time [1787]' for self defense." Wow, I can't wait to see that fight!
insightbites 1 year ago
@insightbites
Yeah, I know. That's not the view of the founders, I default to what they expressed about the 2nd. Nullification.
chewbaca1989 1 year ago
@chewbaca1989, Erratum (mine): the 2nd Amend. case name is "D.C. v. Heller," not vice-versa. You're entitled to your opinion on nullification, but, taking into account well-settled cases like Texas v. White (no right of states to secede), Cooper v. Aaron (federal supremacy of Sup. Ct. decisions over states), and that famous liberal, Antonin Scalia, saying, "If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede," I wouldn't hold my breath on it.
insightbites 1 year ago
@insightbites
You will recognize my rights to self determination.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
It's rather simple, see?
chewbaca1989 1 year ago
@chewbaca1989, Wow, you can recite the beginning of the Declaration of Independence. Who knew (or cared)? Apparently, you think it somehow meaningfully adds to the conversation. I think if you're actually trying to draw some analogy to present day events, it adds nothing, but, hey, if rote recitation of parts of the Declaration is the best you can do, by all means go for it.
insightbites 1 year ago
@insightbites My point is that self determination is the implied in this declaration. Federal law can be superseded by determined people, as was English law of the 18th century. You may support Obama or the Feds power grab for the greater good. I oppose it even if I was in the minority, which I'm not, you will observe and respect my rights. And I know you may want to cite the general welfare clause to save face don't do it. Madison wrote extensively on the subject and it won't help your case.
chewbaca1989 1 year ago
@chewbaca1989, Guess what? I'm not going to cite anything, because it's clear to me that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. As I suspected and you've confirmed, you're just stringing together words you heard somewhere in the remote hope that you'll make some sense (the old "blind squirrel" gambit). People like you, who talk gibberish about "self-determination" (i.e., insurrection) in the absence of real tyranny just demonstrate their profound ignorance of our system of government.
insightbites 1 year ago
@insightbites
I argue that you can't trample my rights even if I am a minority of the voters of America. If you don't see the usurpation of Habeas corpus as a tyrannical move by the Federal government I don't know what to tell you. Obama now has the power to assassinate men without trial I consider this conversation as over. (I know you'll quantify and defend the assassination as "them" being terrorists, lol)
chewbaca1989 1 year ago
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@chewbaca1989 "I oppose it even if I was in the minority, which I'm not, you will observe and respect my rights"
You are in what majority? 65%(and growing) of welfare and 70% of unemployment cases are people you believe to be in "your group of people", since that is clearly not the case, you are the minority by a big margin. We the majority were screwed by you during 10 long years, and we won't let that to happen again. So, get ready to get your ears fucked up by our swat team trucks.
affiliate30 1 year ago
Why are the retards always from Texas? Just for the record, we're not all that fucking stupid down here.
MrTommyjackson 1 year ago
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Hahaha! Maddow is a dumb bitch, she needs to read the words of our founding fathers.
lustfordeath 1 year ago
@lustfordeath know nothing about our founding fathers and the constitution. He is a fucking idiot.
Bobobirdiebuddy1 1 year ago
@lustfordeath If by dumb bitch you mean a Rhodes scholar who was educated at Stanford as well as Oxford and who just emphasized the importance of civil disagreement over violent disagreement, then sure. If you're insisting that our Founding Fathers would today suggest conservatives take up arms against the government instead of, gee, I dunno, voting their way into Congress, then YOU need to re-read the words of our Founding Fathers, as you've grossly misinterpreted them.
QuietForm 1 year ago 14
"Love me or I'll kill you." Isn't that the operative agenda of Christianity?
ChurchOfKali66619 1 year ago 12
@ChurchOfKali66619
Isn't that the operative agenda in tyranny? That's a stupid... oh, I see your name. What a joke, Kali.
chewbaca1989 1 year ago
@ChurchOfKali66619 dude, the fact that you are against Christians don't mean that everything you are against is the fault of Christians, most things that affect humanity in a negative way are of a Satanic nature. by the way, I can see the three sixes in your handle. Master of confusion, you are everywhere....
affiliate30 1 year ago
@affiliate30 Why does everyone have to discuss good and evil in judeo-christian terms?
vaguelyreptilian 1 year ago
@vaguelyreptilian "Why does everyone have to discuss good and evil in judeo-christian terms?"
Did I imply that in my comment? No. Besides that, good and evil can only be discussed in Judeo-Christian terms. There is not good, evil/bad, and even Satan in The book of Satan.
affiliate30 1 year ago
@affiliate30 well, you just said there, that they can only be discussed in judeo-christian terms.
right and wrong would still exist without the idea of a merciful god, or a being wanting to lead us away from said god. Quite simply, as well.
Doing your best to not hurt people: good. Not because anyone's god told me it's good, because I have a moral compass that doesn't rely on somebody else's word.
intentionally injuring, oppressing or manipulating other people to injure or oppress: bad.
vaguelyreptilian 1 year ago
@vaguelyreptilian Sr. if you hurt and manipulate somebody who enjoys pain and being manipulated, would that be right or wrong? You could also kill somebody who feels like he or she wants to get killed by somebody, would that be right or wrong?
Do you know that there is people who consider sadists "good", and "righteous people" bad?
I am not saying that you can not control your actions on your own, but it takes a very strong person not to get confused by humans on "right" and "wrong"
affiliate30 1 year ago
@ChurchOfKali66619 Hehe real funny isn't the montra of athiests sit down and shut up or I'll make you.
ProgressiveEnemy1 1 year ago
the teabaggers, republicans, fox news, etc talk about the nazi's like they reforming the nazi party. they will lead these people by fear, then slaughter every half witted follower who have been duped by their propaganda. this might be a good thing, though. a bunch of slaughtered dumb people who couldn't tell right from wrong, i'm feeling better already...
nt0xik8ed 1 year ago