On what basis did the government think they caught the 07:40 train (which was cancelled!) when they arrived in good time for at least one of the earlier trains?
Surely this crap they came out with ("and the reasons they came out with it") needs investigating?
...so the question remains: How was Tony Blair able to tell us, before any of the 'evidence' appeared, that the attacks where done in the name of Islam?
0:48:45 - Tony Blair saying "We know that these people act in the name of Islam" before any evidence appears is concerning.
But if Tony Blair adds "But we also know that the vast majority any overwhelming majority of Mulsims here and abroad are decent and law abiding people..." - how can that, in any way, put the concerns on weak ground?
0:26:34 - "Bruce doesn't know whether he actually saw evidence the bomb was underneath the carriage..." - Really?! He sounded pretty f*****g sure to me!!
0:11:41 - The bomber dropped his driving licence nearby to ensure he would be identified?? Pah! And, for the same reason, I suppose the 9/11 hijacker wound down the window and tossed out his passport just before the plane struck! If you're gonna do something like they did for such a magnificent cause, you'd do something a bit more for recognition than drop your driving licence in pure hope somewhere on the bus!
I am ashamed to be British. And the BBC will never get another penny from me.
When real suicide bomber go out on a campaign of terror, they shave all hair from their body, in these photos on the day they had beards or goatees, these guys wernt terrorists khan was actually a well respect member of his community and even police officers were friends with him and he also had connections inside the houses of parliment!!
Why would this massive government conspiracy have a demolition truck right next to the scene of the bombing? With the name of a company that does controlled demolition along the side? Why would the government bring in outside contractors? This theory makes no sense?
At 37:03 the simulation exercise was named "Exercise Oriris". What a strange choice for a name of a terrorist simulation plan. Or perhaps not.
Osiris is a god that are worshiped by occultists and Masons! Of course,
"Osiris is the Egyptian god of the dead, of pleasures and of partying and wine. Festivals held in his honor often resulted in human sacrifices and orgiastic (sexual) rites"
49:52 One blurry image of the alleged bombers together entering a tube station turns up FIVE YEARS AFTER THE FACT!?! and we're supposed to buy this? There should have been literallly thousands of frames clearly showing the alleged bombers en route to their target trains 7/7/05 FFS!
I think its possible that it was a "dry run" that they didn't think the bombs were real in there backpacks and that it was some type of test drill for security. But then again how would that info not get out?
@knightschwartz - that's a possibility, but I don't think it's particularly likely. After all, you would have to be pretty trusting/naive/stupid to let someone give you a 'fake' bomb and tell you to pretend to be a terrorist. Also, not a single friend or relative of the four alleged bombers has given any credence to this theory in anything that they've said since the bombings.
@knightschwartz It can't be ruled out my friend but I suspect that the bombs were planted. Many explosives experts have said that the damage was caused by explosives under the train not inside it, I think the same was said about the bus also. For me the bus is a clever decoy to give the whole day an more real scenario but with out being witness its hard to say, we are left to draw conclusions and the evidence looks very dodgy to say the least.
Thats right, send JOHN HILL to jail for spreading proporgander on the internet . but to tell millions of people across the world on tv, like BLAIR, BUSH, CHENEY & RUMSFELD did, that SADDAM HUSSIEN has WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION then go invade HIS country and kill HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of INNOCENT PEOPLE IS PERFECTLY OK BOLLOCKS, BOLLOCKS, BOLLOCKS...... now send me to jail because i say 911 was INSIDE JOB you EVIL FASCIST BASTARDS
@woodleyred John Hill was not sent to jail. He was arrested for trying to interfere with a trial, having not bothered to contact the defendants or their representatives. An overreaction by the authorities? No doubt. But hardly an innocent man.
This BBC video is profound dishonesty. They begin as if they are going to criticize only The Ripple effect, and they seem to be honest in the beginning... But then, using some stupid assertions and too fast accusations made in the video, they dismiss all the video and not only this video but also any work questioning the official narrative of the 7/7 events, and also all the so-called "conspiracy" theories. Their video ends up in a shapeless mush... Not very surprising from a mainstream media !
The Ripple effect does contain some stupid allegations, but also facts that are not dismissed by this BBC video : the historical context (who benefits ?) ; the bad quality of the inquiry (wrong train, no CCTV film of any of the "terrorist" showing them inside their "last" tube or bus, no answer to why they left their ID or material behind, why did T. Blair accuse Muslims before any inquiry ?,...). These facts should have called for an independent inquiry, but BBC did not care... of course !...
i saw a bbc program on 911 conspiracy, and the whole program was basically insulting and questioning the makers of loose change and other such films. no actual mention of facts or investigation into the conspiracy, just slagging them off and saying they are nuts. NO the bbc is nuts for covering up such disgraceful inhumane psychopaths.
@TheConquest88 The 7/7 terrorist attacks really were done by muslim terrorists though! They even made a video stating why they were carrying out those suicide bomb attacks! 9/11 was done muslim terrorists too! Every 9/11 conspiracy theory is thoroughly debunked here: WWWdotDEBUNKING911dotCOM
@77Archive Is there any chance you could upload the full episode of the Oklahoma Bombing? I know it's not 7/7 related but it show swhat the BBC CAN do when it's not being forced to promote a lie.
The character assassination of the ripple effect film maker was to cue and the abstract guy with the beard...notice he never spoke, as his voice would prove it wasn't the film maker. Remember the BBC are owned by the same people who did the 7/7 atrocity...this is their lame attempt to disprove the ripple effect and they never covered all the facts and missed out loads of important issues such as the three shot at Canary wharf and the camera not working on the bus or the tube etc
@SEARCHFORASTARCY: Exactly, that's also one of the points. People think that what's actually bogus is the truth because they can't take anything to face value and they can't accept the reality and you're absolutely right, no matter what we do, we can NEVER get the WHOLE truth.
well watched this.......that bearded bloke = full of shit and thinks he's god....right....a guy that doesnt believe 14 million jews died...right....and then its based on the fact the police got the train time wrong....load of shit....aand ofcourse the muslims that will never come to terms with extremists...rip to all the victims
@johnwillsful what you call bogus others call truth, remember this programme was created by the BBC you will never get the whole truth, in order to know the truth you have to research for yourself.
How did the police know to take bus 30 of its route and guide it into Tavistock Square, and park outside the offices of the security company ICTS, to blow up?
How did they know their was a bomb on that bus? They just happebned to pull that bus off it's normal route. Coincidence like the excercise being held by Peter Powers Company? I put it that ICTS was Visors customer who the excercise was being operated for.
I would like to know why the Israeli security company has never commenteed about their supposed involvement in 7/7? Why is it every airport that terrorists got onto planes such as 911, the shoe bomber Richard Ried, the underpants bomber, the Glasgow airport attack, and the Russian airport bombing earliet this year ICTS were responsible for the security. Also ICTS lost a majority of their contracts early last year. Strange? or another explanation?
so let me get this straight. These stories are false because this woman says so? They talk to one person and this one person debunks everything with one statement. So, if i say i have a million dollars and i get someone else to say it, does that mean i do have a million dollars?
Wait a second - they're blowing off the non existant train question for the straw man target of alleged Israeli warnings..And why not ask the offended survivor about Mr Leight the survivor who saw bomb hole under carriage? Is she offended by that plain factual eyewitness report, too? Dude isnt CT - he was there just like her. Because surely she is offended - as one might be by evidence that this attack was beyond the capability/availabilty of these four.
hi people, for those of u not trusting our politicians take a look at ron paul in america, the media wont touch him, hes had to do his campaign entirely on the net coz hes not 1 of the chosen elite! he wants a smaller government, with less regulation on people and more on the governments and the financiers...they dont even mention his name even when listing candidates...theyre so afraid of him gettin support....u know govs & the media are sweating when they totally black out certain people
How did the BBC manage to track down Muad Dib. They just find some guy got him to grow a stupid beard and look weird then try make him sound stupid to discredit him. BBC should tell how they found him and how they know he even made the 7 /7 Ripple effect documentary. I hate the BBC.
@DanielK6670 ~ BBC were emailing Muad Dib before this broadcast. He made conditions to do an interview only if he could do the final production AND if his 7/7 Ripple Effect was shown on primetime on the BBC without editing anything out.
BBC didn't want to do that so they tried to f@*k him up. He was found not guilty by a majority jury on his trial a few weeks back.
You can see his interview at "RichPlanet com" or even here on YT. - Worth watching.
@ed11561 No it was not an inside job! It really was done by Islamic terrorists! Islamic terrorists have made dozens and dozens of attempts over the years to bomb Britain! Most have been thwarted by the security forces but the 7/7 attacks and the Glasgow airport attack were successfully done by muslim terrorists due to the vast number of attempts which means that the security forces cannot keep tabs on all terrorist attempts.
@ParagramTree BULLSHIT- you're a brainwashed sheep who believes the LIES of the government & media(same thing) Here's a great video on 7/7 that points out that governmental police & security agencies have THEMSELVES been involved in alot of these bombings.Watch it-learn something.
watch?v=wFllLvhgYm8&feature=email
And stop believing all the bullshit from media & governments which always have underlying motives for bombings.
@ed11561 No the 7/7 bombings really were carried out by muslim terrorists! Islamic terrorism is not lies it is a very real and serious threat! Muslim terrorists have been carrying out bombings and suicide bombings for many many years! The 7/7 bombers even made a video where they stated why they carried out those bombings! Also look up "Rachel North" she is a famous survivor of the 7/7 bombings who has spoken out strongly against conspiracy theorists!
@widdawiddawaldo cheers for the heads up. have run into a few things about this veitch character (e.g. keelan's wideshutuk), so rest assured i will def be researching it. bbc/renegade pics asked me to go on their 9-2 road trip - my wife wouldn't let me - she said 'they'll kill you if you go' [or worse - hypnotise!]. but yeah - it's coming out for 10th anniversary. do you sense a new strategy/plan beginning to take shape? it seems to me things are now progressing at an increased pace...
well i for one think were running out of names for disasters and have had to resort to naming the disasters based on the date they fall on the calender. 9/11 and 7/7 aren't very exciting titles
media manipulation at its finest. watch out for another one near the 10th anniversary of 9/11. if i was them, i'd organise a 'conspiracy road trip', around NYC, where they get a bunch of truthers, take them to USA, and put them up against debunkers, then EDIT it to make the truthers look like a bunch of idiots. and relatives of the dead, to make them look like heartless bastards. you have been warned. this is how they manipulate the media, and thus by extension - the general public. i.e. you...
@ur7maa They have made a program, Charlie Veitch who founded 'the love police' activist group was flown out to america by the BBc and now he's changed his mind about whole 9/11 conspiracy, completly slating the truth movement.. its a massive Uturn. you need to research this. SEARCH Charlie Veitch (cveitch) on youtube. comments and videos will tell you all. go to his channel. (:
this really demonizes conspiracy theorists
slponmic 1 week ago
And why no mention of the Canary Wharf shootings that day?
jhodgski 2 weeks ago
On what basis did the government think they caught the 07:40 train (which was cancelled!) when they arrived in good time for at least one of the earlier trains?
Surely this crap they came out with ("and the reasons they came out with it") needs investigating?
jhodgski 2 weeks ago
...so the question remains: How was Tony Blair able to tell us, before any of the 'evidence' appeared, that the attacks where done in the name of Islam?
jhodgski 2 weeks ago
0:48:45 - Tony Blair saying "We know that these people act in the name of Islam" before any evidence appears is concerning.
But if Tony Blair adds "But we also know that the vast majority any overwhelming majority of Mulsims here and abroad are decent and law abiding people..." - how can that, in any way, put the concerns on weak ground?
jhodgski 2 weeks ago
0:26:34 - "Bruce doesn't know whether he actually saw evidence the bomb was underneath the carriage..." - Really?! He sounded pretty f*****g sure to me!!
jhodgski 2 weeks ago
0:11:41 - The bomber dropped his driving licence nearby to ensure he would be identified?? Pah! And, for the same reason, I suppose the 9/11 hijacker wound down the window and tossed out his passport just before the plane struck! If you're gonna do something like they did for such a magnificent cause, you'd do something a bit more for recognition than drop your driving licence in pure hope somewhere on the bus!
I am ashamed to be British. And the BBC will never get another penny from me.
jhodgski 2 weeks ago
When real suicide bomber go out on a campaign of terror, they shave all hair from their body, in these photos on the day they had beards or goatees, these guys wernt terrorists khan was actually a well respect member of his community and even police officers were friends with him and he also had connections inside the houses of parliment!!
nitrogas85 1 month ago
Why would this massive government conspiracy have a demolition truck right next to the scene of the bombing? With the name of a company that does controlled demolition along the side? Why would the government bring in outside contractors? This theory makes no sense?
mst3k4evur 1 month ago
At 37:03 the simulation exercise was named "Exercise Oriris". What a strange choice for a name of a terrorist simulation plan. Or perhaps not.
Osiris is a god that are worshiped by occultists and Masons! Of course,
"Osiris is the Egyptian god of the dead, of pleasures and of partying and wine. Festivals held in his honor often resulted in human sacrifices and orgiastic (sexual) rites"
xpi7 1 month ago
49:52 One blurry image of the alleged bombers together entering a tube station turns up FIVE YEARS AFTER THE FACT!?! and we're supposed to buy this? There should have been literallly thousands of frames clearly showing the alleged bombers en route to their target trains 7/7/05 FFS!
TODB0AMER 1 month ago
I think its possible that it was a "dry run" that they didn't think the bombs were real in there backpacks and that it was some type of test drill for security. But then again how would that info not get out?
knightschwartz 1 month ago
@knightschwartz - that's a possibility, but I don't think it's particularly likely. After all, you would have to be pretty trusting/naive/stupid to let someone give you a 'fake' bomb and tell you to pretend to be a terrorist. Also, not a single friend or relative of the four alleged bombers has given any credence to this theory in anything that they've said since the bombings.
77Archive 1 month ago
@knightschwartz It can't be ruled out my friend but I suspect that the bombs were planted. Many explosives experts have said that the damage was caused by explosives under the train not inside it, I think the same was said about the bus also. For me the bus is a clever decoy to give the whole day an more real scenario but with out being witness its hard to say, we are left to draw conclusions and the evidence looks very dodgy to say the least.
MyCosmicPath 1 month ago
Thats right, send JOHN HILL to jail for spreading proporgander on the internet . but to tell millions of people across the world on tv, like BLAIR, BUSH, CHENEY & RUMSFELD did, that SADDAM HUSSIEN has WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION then go invade HIS country and kill HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of INNOCENT PEOPLE IS PERFECTLY OK BOLLOCKS, BOLLOCKS, BOLLOCKS...... now send me to jail because i say 911 was INSIDE JOB you EVIL FASCIST BASTARDS
woodleyred 1 month ago 2
@woodleyred John Hill was not sent to jail. He was arrested for trying to interfere with a trial, having not bothered to contact the defendants or their representatives. An overreaction by the authorities? No doubt. But hardly an innocent man.
77Archive 1 month ago
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mcmcmchat 1 month ago
This BBC video is profound dishonesty. They begin as if they are going to criticize only The Ripple effect, and they seem to be honest in the beginning... But then, using some stupid assertions and too fast accusations made in the video, they dismiss all the video and not only this video but also any work questioning the official narrative of the 7/7 events, and also all the so-called "conspiracy" theories. Their video ends up in a shapeless mush... Not very surprising from a mainstream media !
manuoscarwilde 2 months ago
The Ripple effect does contain some stupid allegations, but also facts that are not dismissed by this BBC video : the historical context (who benefits ?) ; the bad quality of the inquiry (wrong train, no CCTV film of any of the "terrorist" showing them inside their "last" tube or bus, no answer to why they left their ID or material behind, why did T. Blair accuse Muslims before any inquiry ?,...). These facts should have called for an independent inquiry, but BBC did not care... of course !...
manuoscarwilde 2 months ago
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manuoscarwilde 2 months ago
BBC.. I SEE YOU
bitsanbobs101 2 months ago
i saw a bbc program on 911 conspiracy, and the whole program was basically insulting and questioning the makers of loose change and other such films. no actual mention of facts or investigation into the conspiracy, just slagging them off and saying they are nuts. NO the bbc is nuts for covering up such disgraceful inhumane psychopaths.
TheConquest88 2 months ago
@TheConquest88 The 7/7 terrorist attacks really were done by muslim terrorists though! They even made a video stating why they were carrying out those suicide bomb attacks! 9/11 was done muslim terrorists too! Every 9/11 conspiracy theory is thoroughly debunked here: WWWdotDEBUNKING911dotCOM
ParagramTree 1 month ago
This is rubbish. Everyone knows that the 7/7 "truth" movement are the patsies for the Chinese Intelligence service.
ma049 2 months ago
@77Archive Is there any chance you could upload the full episode of the Oklahoma Bombing? I know it's not 7/7 related but it show swhat the BBC CAN do when it's not being forced to promote a lie.
Mosley2 3 months ago
The character assassination of the ripple effect film maker was to cue and the abstract guy with the beard...notice he never spoke, as his voice would prove it wasn't the film maker. Remember the BBC are owned by the same people who did the 7/7 atrocity...this is their lame attempt to disprove the ripple effect and they never covered all the facts and missed out loads of important issues such as the three shot at Canary wharf and the camera not working on the bus or the tube etc
depoty 3 months ago
BBC Counter conspiracy biased crap.
depoty 3 months ago
@SEARCHFORASTARCY: Exactly, that's also one of the points. People think that what's actually bogus is the truth because they can't take anything to face value and they can't accept the reality and you're absolutely right, no matter what we do, we can NEVER get the WHOLE truth.
johnwillsful 3 months ago
ace ventura in the background/
slyonme 3 months ago
well watched this.......that bearded bloke = full of shit and thinks he's god....right....a guy that doesnt believe 14 million jews died...right....and then its based on the fact the police got the train time wrong....load of shit....aand ofcourse the muslims that will never come to terms with extremists...rip to all the victims
GreenwoodWFC 3 months ago
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Ha ha. I don't care. As long as the women stay hot and sexy!
jamesstasiak 4 months ago
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jamesstasiak 4 months ago
Oh God. Another bogus conspiracy theory.
johnwillsful 5 months ago
@johnwillsful what you call bogus others call truth, remember this programme was created by the BBC you will never get the whole truth, in order to know the truth you have to research for yourself.
SEARCHFORASTARCY 3 months ago
How did the police know to take bus 30 of its route and guide it into Tavistock Square, and park outside the offices of the security company ICTS, to blow up?
How did they know their was a bomb on that bus? They just happebned to pull that bus off it's normal route. Coincidence like the excercise being held by Peter Powers Company? I put it that ICTS was Visors customer who the excercise was being operated for.
delmare1 5 months ago
I would like to know why the Israeli security company has never commenteed about their supposed involvement in 7/7? Why is it every airport that terrorists got onto planes such as 911, the shoe bomber Richard Ried, the underpants bomber, the Glasgow airport attack, and the Russian airport bombing earliet this year ICTS were responsible for the security. Also ICTS lost a majority of their contracts early last year. Strange? or another explanation?
delmare1 5 months ago
so let me get this straight. These stories are false because this woman says so? They talk to one person and this one person debunks everything with one statement. So, if i say i have a million dollars and i get someone else to say it, does that mean i do have a million dollars?
dominic150 6 months ago
the BBC is only good for one thing. The Military Channel.
dominic150 6 months ago
rape party to transport
pastytit 6 months ago
Wait a second - they're blowing off the non existant train question for the straw man target of alleged Israeli warnings..And why not ask the offended survivor about Mr Leight the survivor who saw bomb hole under carriage? Is she offended by that plain factual eyewitness report, too? Dude isnt CT - he was there just like her. Because surely she is offended - as one might be by evidence that this attack was beyond the capability/availabilty of these four.
newsmanbluesman 6 months ago
hi people, for those of u not trusting our politicians take a look at ron paul in america, the media wont touch him, hes had to do his campaign entirely on the net coz hes not 1 of the chosen elite! he wants a smaller government, with less regulation on people and more on the governments and the financiers...they dont even mention his name even when listing candidates...theyre so afraid of him gettin support....u know govs & the media are sweating when they totally black out certain people
becij13 6 months ago
so what if tony said that the majority of muslims are good and decent...after he said that that the attacks were in the name of islam, classic psyops
daveeol 7 months ago
How did the BBC manage to track down Muad Dib. They just find some guy got him to grow a stupid beard and look weird then try make him sound stupid to discredit him. BBC should tell how they found him and how they know he even made the 7 /7 Ripple effect documentary. I hate the BBC.
DanielK6670 8 months ago
@DanielK6670 ~ BBC were emailing Muad Dib before this broadcast. He made conditions to do an interview only if he could do the final production AND if his 7/7 Ripple Effect was shown on primetime on the BBC without editing anything out.
BBC didn't want to do that so they tried to f@*k him up. He was found not guilty by a majority jury on his trial a few weeks back.
You can see his interview at "RichPlanet com" or even here on YT. - Worth watching.
tunnabrix 7 months ago
TONY BLAIR=ANOTHER LYING FUCK.
7/7 WAS AN INSIDE GOVERNMENT JOB BY INCOMPETENT ASSHOLES.
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561 No it was not an inside job! It really was done by Islamic terrorists! Islamic terrorists have made dozens and dozens of attempts over the years to bomb Britain! Most have been thwarted by the security forces but the 7/7 attacks and the Glasgow airport attack were successfully done by muslim terrorists due to the vast number of attempts which means that the security forces cannot keep tabs on all terrorist attempts.
ParagramTree 5 months ago
@ParagramTree BULLSHIT- you're a brainwashed sheep who believes the LIES of the government & media(same thing) Here's a great video on 7/7 that points out that governmental police & security agencies have THEMSELVES been involved in alot of these bombings.Watch it-learn something.
watch?v=wFllLvhgYm8&feature=email
And stop believing all the bullshit from media & governments which always have underlying motives for bombings.
ed11561 5 months ago
@ed11561 No the 7/7 bombings really were carried out by muslim terrorists! Islamic terrorism is not lies it is a very real and serious threat! Muslim terrorists have been carrying out bombings and suicide bombings for many many years! The 7/7 bombers even made a video where they stated why they carried out those bombings! Also look up "Rachel North" she is a famous survivor of the 7/7 bombings who has spoken out strongly against conspiracy theorists!
ParagramTree 5 months ago
@widdawiddawaldo cheers for the heads up. have run into a few things about this veitch character (e.g. keelan's wideshutuk), so rest assured i will def be researching it. bbc/renegade pics asked me to go on their 9-2 road trip - my wife wouldn't let me - she said 'they'll kill you if you go' [or worse - hypnotise!]. but yeah - it's coming out for 10th anniversary. do you sense a new strategy/plan beginning to take shape? it seems to me things are now progressing at an increased pace...
ur7maa 8 months ago
What a crock of shit... I expect Charlie Vietch's documentary to smell of the same stuff.
BLAGASPANTS 8 months ago
BBC is the biggest liar!!
thepeacemaker786 8 months ago
6 years today
FaidleyEthan 8 months ago
well i for one think were running out of names for disasters and have had to resort to naming the disasters based on the date they fall on the calender. 9/11 and 7/7 aren't very exciting titles
FaidleyEthan 8 months ago
media manipulation at its finest. watch out for another one near the 10th anniversary of 9/11. if i was them, i'd organise a 'conspiracy road trip', around NYC, where they get a bunch of truthers, take them to USA, and put them up against debunkers, then EDIT it to make the truthers look like a bunch of idiots. and relatives of the dead, to make them look like heartless bastards. you have been warned. this is how they manipulate the media, and thus by extension - the general public. i.e. you...
ur7maa 9 months ago
@ur7maa They have made a program, Charlie Veitch who founded 'the love police' activist group was flown out to america by the BBc and now he's changed his mind about whole 9/11 conspiracy, completly slating the truth movement.. its a massive Uturn. you need to research this. SEARCH Charlie Veitch (cveitch) on youtube. comments and videos will tell you all. go to his channel. (:
widdawiddawaldo 8 months ago
@ur7maa the documentary is coming out in time for 9/11 10th annaversary..
widdawiddawaldo 8 months ago
A so-called white-wash! Shame on you BBC!
Manuhashidate 9 months ago
Interesting upload!
IceManLikeGervin 10 months ago
long live muad dib
opium340 10 months ago