Hello Socialism without democracy is not socialism. Communism without freedom is not communism... It is time to return to the origin of those words and ideas, and stop calling "communists" the bureaucrats and rulers that were in fact impostors, the political regimes which were sad caricatures of bourgeois revolutions. Dubcek was a commy in the true sens of the word. Communism is still a good hypothesis about human history...
The greatest marxist is History itself. It showed that Leninism led to Stalinism. Dubcek, as a true marxist, wanted to empower civil society so that it follows its own developpement as it is possible in the hegemony of capitalism: maybe this would lead to another Sweden. But that's human history. Communism can only come from a highly developed capitalism, showing contradiction between the potential for human liberation and the confinement of this potential by capitalism.
Herzlichen Dank für dieses Video.! A. Dubcek hat mit seinen Ideen und seinem Mut den Weg zur Demokratie in Osteuropa eröffnet. Danke auch für den Song von Karel Kryl!
Herzlichen Dank für dieses Video.! A. Dubcek hat mit seinen Ideen und seinem Mut den Weg zur Demokratie in Osteuropa eröffnet. Danke auch für den Song von Karel Kryl!
Mesherschmidt thank you, to keep the memory. History shows that Leninism was a very bad idea. To be brief, I would say that Karl Marx himself was foremost a democrat, he had never agreed with this idea of a vanguard party who lead on behalf of the people ... Anyway for me Alexander Dubcek was a great man, who deserve the name of communist ... And Karel Kryl is a great poet, great singer.
@antostagan: How was Leninism a bad idea? It was implementation of Marxism. Alexander Dubcek was just another Stalinist bureaucrat. A liberal Stalinist but still a Stalinist. The whole concept of "Socialism with a human face" was to remove the most unpopular elements of Stalinism in Czechoslovakia while still preserving the power, privelages, and rule of the Stalinist bureaucracy. He later demonstrated his Stalinist sell-out trait when he joined Vaclav Havel's counter-revolutionary goons in 1989
@robo1945 Jestli to nebude tím, že LKHK76 chce, aby jeho poznámkám rozumělo víc lidí, než kolik jich umí česky nebo slovensky ... teda, aspoň proto bývá na Youtube anglčtina používána. :-)
btw..do you know what he did a year after he failed with his policies? he passed a law that all demonstrations against the regime should be pressed by the police or army in a violent way..a so called pendrekový zákon law..thanks to that, 3 people died
@Mesherschmit More people were under presure - the people who scan his name, too. But not every has succumbed: For example František Kriegel the only from the abducted Czechoslovak "delegation" denied to sign the "Moscow protocoles" about occupation of our country.
@Mesherschmit I Kriegel byl pod tlakem a jediný z "moskevské delegace " nepodepsal. Zachoval si tvář. Na to musí být žaludek, podepsat zákon umožňující mlácení a persekuci lidí, kteří signatáři věří a skandují jeho jméno ... Teda, ne že by Kriegel byl nějaký svatoušek (v roce 1948 byl velitelem lidových milicí v Praze), ale v roce 1968 a po něm se aspoň zachoval jako chlap.
А вы хорошо представляете тогдашнюю ситуацию? Если бы не вмешалась полиция и внутренние войска, это сделали бы советские войска, Гречко еще в апреле 1969-го прямо заявил, что если беспорядки повторятся, их прекратят любой ценой. И тогда погибли бы не 3 человека, а сотни.
The difference between communist reformers and stalinians is as important as the one between zero and infinity. It s difficult to accept for all the people who dream to capitalism like kids to Santa Claus.
Just because he wasn't stalinist doesn't make him a good guy. Khschew was no stalinist yet he was an a-hole. Dubcek's career skyrocketed during the 1950s when the toughest repressions and purges were in full swing yet he claims in his memoirs that he has "no recollection of any injustices".
BTW, the French once had Jules Verne and de Gaulle... now they have Sarkozy and mosques. Go figure.
"Mosques"?!! What do you mean? For myself, I consider it's not a shame whether Muslims have a special place for their faith. I wonder what's your political position although you can think what you want to.
"Mosques" was meant to be a metaphore. If you think that being bascially run over by muslims from North Africa who create a parallel islamic society (a state within a state, I believe your politically-correct politicans call it Z.U.S.) is making your country better then all power to you. Our sex industry issues are miniscule compared to what you are up against.
The islamist danger is real and we have to be strong with it . But there is a large difference between muslim and islamist. (For myself, I have no sympathy for Islam and I'm an agnostic.)
@fred13400II These people have individual evolution from radical stalinist comunism (series of them have participate on the communist putsch in 1948) through desilusion to reformer comunism. But I would compare their reformer comunism soon to Euro-comunism than to swedish social-democrats.
@fred13400II More expresive example of this evolution is František Kriegel who has participated on this putch as "Volk militia" head master in Prague, in 1968 was as the Parliament chairman together with other constitutional actors kidnaped to USSR and in Moscow as the only from this "delegation" declined to sign the agreement with the occupation.
De antemano una disculpa mis hermanos checos , no se escribir en su idioma .
Admiro a Alexander Dubcek , fue contemporaneo de un guerrillero de mi pais llamado Lucio Cabañas.
Creo que las reformas de Dubcek al socialismo eran el verdaero futuro de la humanidad , pero no entiendo ¿por que se abandonaron y ya no se siguen implementando?
And maybe that is better. Kundera was good writer but probably cooperator with communist secret police and Dubcek...pfff...Dubcek was communist and idealist. And he was lucky, very lucky...maybe we can say, that he was morraly good but its no so clear. He was tragic person, not hero.
takze kryl bol ortodoxny komanč? za to ze chcel trosku "ludskejsi komunizmus"? viem ze tie slova ludskost a komunizmus nejdu do kopy ale inak to nvm povedat :D
Som zvedavý , čo by si robil ty keby na tvojej ulici striehla nepretržite Štb 24hodín denne , kebyže vieš , že vždy keď nastúpiš do električky nastúpia s tebou dvaja agenti a keď ťa niekto nebodaj len pozdraví tak ho na mieste legitimujú a toto je len vrchol ľadovca. On tu žiť nemusel , mohol odísť do zahraničia dostávať ceny a akademické tituly , ale ostal .
Komunizmus zlyhal na predstaviteľoch , ktorí ho presadzovali železnou päsťou . Zlyhal na tom , že neotvorili hranice na tom , že tu existoval policajný štát s totalitnými prvkami . Čo si myslíš prečo padol komunizmus , lebo ľudia si mysleli , že na západe je bohviečo a dnes poniektorí dokonca pád socializmu ľutujú.
M.R.Štefánik považoval komunizmus za budúci celosvetový problém a anticivilizačnú úchylku hneď v zárodku keď videl ako sa to červené svinstvo kotilo na svet v boľševickom rusku,tak mi tu nehovor že myšlienka to bola dobrá,len predstavitelia zlyhali ! Otvor oči pre Boha !
V tom máš pravdu , že Štefánik videl dopredu a videl aké následky bude mať bolševizmus v Rusku a preto ho chcel s legionarmi potlačiť. Ale to je o inom . Ja som nehovoril , že komunizmus resp. socializmus bol dobrý . Ja sa len snažím vysvetliť , že nie každý bol sviňa typu Gottwald , Novotný alebo Biľak . Aj vtedy existovali slušní ľudia.
Dobre ak ty tvrdíš , že Dubček je pokrytec tak mi skús porovnať ho trebárs Biľakom .Nikto nehovorí , že bol svätý , ale z tých všetkých komunistických pohlavárov resp. mal nahväčšiu popularitu a ťažko hodnodiť jeho správanie , kedže bol pri moci krátko .
Rozdiel je tam taký že biľak mal byť opretý o betónový múr a zastrelený ako prašivý pes a dubček mal vyfasovať doživotie v nejakom peknom pracovnom tábore(dôvody sú uvedené v mojich početných predchádzajúcich príspevkoch)
Na to nie sú právne prostriedky a ani politická vôla . Dubček mal podporu u verejnosti takže tu by si ho nikto nedovolil kritizovať . A mimochodom stačí sa pozrieť k našim postfederálnym bratom a uvidíš , že komunisti sú 3. najsilnejšou stranou .
@Mesherschmit Bohužel. Ale Biľak měl aspoň sedět. naše státy by vypadaly věrohodněji. Jenže: Soudí soudci, kteří posílali za vyjádření názoru disidenty do vězení, tak co bychom chtěli, že?
@Mesherschmit No, to máš pravdu. Jenže to jsou Íkváči, kteří si nedokáží srovnat v hlavě, že socialisticky pracovat - kapitalisticky žít se nepoštěstí každému a že komunismus a socialialismus není slučitelný s ekonomickou a politickou svobodou. Ještě tak je slučitelná politická a občanská nesvoboda s ekonomickou svobodou prominentů, jak to vidíme v Číně, ale to má ke krásným snům daleko ...
Kdyby Dubček skutečně měl nějaký charakter, tak by nikdy nepodepsal Moskevský protokol nebo "pendrekový zákon" na základě kterého byli biti a stříleni demostrující de facto na JEHO podporu v srpnu 1969
Kdyby Dubček měl charakter, tak by udělal to morální minimum které měl a to nepodepsal tzv. "Moskevský protokol" legalizující ruskou okupaci. A estébáci ho hlídat ve skutečnosti nemuseli, vždyť on byl jen aparátčík odstavený na vedlejší kolej a ne žádná hrozba pro režim
@LKHK76 Přesně tak. Kriegel taky nepodepsal. Politici jsou jako vojáci: Očekává se od nich, že vy vypjatých situacích si zachovají tvář. Kdo nemůže ustát svůj postoj, může například odstoupit. František Kriegel taky nepodepsal.
nice enough guy but he was no marshal tito...in the face of russian threats he should have followed his lead and fortified his country like tito...then made it clear to the russians that they would have a fight on their hands................still....a pioneer and way ahead of his time
Len tak mimochodom,Karel Kryl nemal dubčeka rád ani na konci 60 rokov ani o 20 rokov neskôr pri tzv "sametovce".Nikdy mu neveril a mládež by tiež mala vedieť že "hrdina" dubček podpísal v r.1969 tzv.obuškový zákon ktorý umožňoval zmlátiť každého kto protestoval proti okupácii.
One of the Greatest Man Of History: 1 Che Guevara 2 Thomas Sankara 3 Ho Chi Minh 4 Alexander Dubcek 5 Salvador Allende Gossens 6 Ahmed Ben Bella 7 Emiliano Zapata 8 Subcomandante Marcos This is the 8 Gratest Man Of History! Hasta la victoria siempre
are you czech or slovak? did you learn about him in school? tell me..what did he do? he was an icon , a nice guy for sure but onlyto increase his popularity...do you know what he did after his plans were wrecked? he didnt try again..he just went along with the commuists..he even signed a censorship law...
I am Slovak, right. I learned in school but I read a lot of things from our history by myself. I saw documents about Him. I saw what people arround him told about his life. I saw how people in Chechoslovakia loved him because of his charisma.
Increase popularity? In communism? You know what you are speaking about? That was NOTHING like popularity that time, everything was controlled (also media...) - yes he tried again and again. But there were years he was locked in his house without possibility to live public life. You... can´t immagine that.
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Hello Socialism without democracy is not socialism. Communism without freedom is not communism... It is time to return to the origin of those words and ideas, and stop calling "communists" the bureaucrats and rulers that were in fact impostors, the political regimes which were sad caricatures of bourgeois revolutions. Dubcek was a commy in the true sens of the word. Communism is still a good hypothesis about human history...
antostagan 1 month ago
linda música e que historia
suetamluciano 1 month ago
Wasnt dubcek more of a democratic socialist than a commy?
thetrailbrake 4 months ago
@hectorbolchevik
The greatest marxist is History itself. It showed that Leninism led to Stalinism. Dubcek, as a true marxist, wanted to empower civil society so that it follows its own developpement as it is possible in the hegemony of capitalism: maybe this would lead to another Sweden. But that's human history. Communism can only come from a highly developed capitalism, showing contradiction between the potential for human liberation and the confinement of this potential by capitalism.
antostagan 9 months ago 2
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Herzlichen Dank für dieses Video.! A. Dubcek hat mit seinen Ideen und seinem Mut den Weg zur Demokratie in Osteuropa eröffnet. Danke auch für den Song von Karel Kryl!
countryflor 1 year ago
Herzlichen Dank für dieses Video.! A. Dubcek hat mit seinen Ideen und seinem Mut den Weg zur Demokratie in Osteuropa eröffnet. Danke auch für den Song von Karel Kryl!
countryflor 1 year ago
my last name is alsobnDubček
elatedhoschi123 1 year ago
Mesherschmidt thank you, to keep the memory. History shows that Leninism was a very bad idea. To be brief, I would say that Karl Marx himself was foremost a democrat, he had never agreed with this idea of a vanguard party who lead on behalf of the people ... Anyway for me Alexander Dubcek was a great man, who deserve the name of communist ... And Karel Kryl is a great poet, great singer.
antostagan 1 year ago
@antostagan: How was Leninism a bad idea? It was implementation of Marxism. Alexander Dubcek was just another Stalinist bureaucrat. A liberal Stalinist but still a Stalinist. The whole concept of "Socialism with a human face" was to remove the most unpopular elements of Stalinism in Czechoslovakia while still preserving the power, privelages, and rule of the Stalinist bureaucracy. He later demonstrated his Stalinist sell-out trait when he joined Vaclav Havel's counter-revolutionary goons in 1989
hectorbolshevik 9 months ago
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robo1945 1 year ago
@robo1945 Jestli to nebude tím, že LKHK76 chce, aby jeho poznámkám rozumělo víc lidí, než kolik jich umí česky nebo slovensky ... teda, aspoň proto bývá na Youtube anglčtina používána. :-)
traplican 1 year ago
btw..do you know what he did a year after he failed with his policies? he passed a law that all demonstrations against the regime should be pressed by the police or army in a violent way..a so called pendrekový zákon law..thanks to that, 3 people died
bobek3x 2 years ago
You have no idea what kind of pressure was there .
Mesherschmit 2 years ago
@Mesherschmit More people were under presure - the people who scan his name, too. But not every has succumbed: For example František Kriegel the only from the abducted Czechoslovak "delegation" denied to sign the "Moscow protocoles" about occupation of our country.
traplican 1 year ago
@Mesherschmit I Kriegel byl pod tlakem a jediný z "moskevské delegace " nepodepsal. Zachoval si tvář. Na to musí být žaludek, podepsat zákon umožňující mlácení a persekuci lidí, kteří signatáři věří a skandují jeho jméno ... Teda, ne že by Kriegel byl nějaký svatoušek (v roce 1948 byl velitelem lidových milicí v Praze), ale v roce 1968 a po něm se aspoň zachoval jako chlap.
traplican 5 months ago
that wasnt his decision, it was the russians forcing him.
GunBoTT 2 years ago
А вы хорошо представляете тогдашнюю ситуацию? Если бы не вмешалась полиция и внутренние войска, это сделали бы советские войска, Гречко еще в апреле 1969-го прямо заявил, что если беспорядки повторятся, их прекратят любой ценой. И тогда погибли бы не 3 человека, а сотни.
mummi72 2 years ago
Does anyone know the title of this song?
tokyoconan 2 years ago
The title of this song is Morituri te salutant and the name of the singer is Karel Kryl.
Mesherschmit 2 years ago
Thanks Mesherschmit - I am currently studying the Prague Spring. Beautiful song. Thanks much from Mtrl
tokyoconan 2 years ago
Morituri te salutant by Karel Kryl
pingpunk69 2 years ago
einer der mutigstens männer des vorigen jahrhunderts.Aufrecht und mutig.Ein warer
Vertreter seines Volkes.Für immer unvergessen
merilin1955 2 years ago
The difference between communist reformers and stalinians is as important as the one between zero and infinity. It s difficult to accept for all the people who dream to capitalism like kids to Santa Claus.
fred13400II 2 years ago
Dubcek wasn't a stalinian but a reformer communist, probably close to swedish social-democrats. And Kundera's affair isn't very simple to consider.
fred13400II 2 years ago 7
Just because he wasn't stalinist doesn't make him a good guy. Khschew was no stalinist yet he was an a-hole. Dubcek's career skyrocketed during the 1950s when the toughest repressions and purges were in full swing yet he claims in his memoirs that he has "no recollection of any injustices".
BTW, the French once had Jules Verne and de Gaulle... now they have Sarkozy and mosques. Go figure.
LKHK76 2 years ago
"Mosques"?!! What do you mean? For myself, I consider it's not a shame whether Muslims have a special place for their faith. I wonder what's your political position although you can think what you want to.
fred13400II 2 years ago
"Mosques" was meant to be a metaphore. If you think that being bascially run over by muslims from North Africa who create a parallel islamic society (a state within a state, I believe your politically-correct politicans call it Z.U.S.) is making your country better then all power to you. Our sex industry issues are miniscule compared to what you are up against.
LKHK76 2 years ago
The islamist danger is real and we have to be strong with it . But there is a large difference between muslim and islamist. (For myself, I have no sympathy for Islam and I'm an agnostic.)
fred13400II 2 years ago
@fred13400II These people have individual evolution from radical stalinist comunism (series of them have participate on the communist putsch in 1948) through desilusion to reformer comunism. But I would compare their reformer comunism soon to Euro-comunism than to swedish social-democrats.
traplican 1 year ago
@fred13400II More expresive example of this evolution is František Kriegel who has participated on this putch as "Volk militia" head master in Prague, in 1968 was as the Parliament chairman together with other constitutional actors kidnaped to USSR and in Moscow as the only from this "delegation" declined to sign the agreement with the occupation.
traplican 1 year ago
De antemano una disculpa mis hermanos checos , no se escribir en su idioma .
Admiro a Alexander Dubcek , fue contemporaneo de un guerrillero de mi pais llamado Lucio Cabañas.
Creo que las reformas de Dubcek al socialismo eran el verdaero futuro de la humanidad , pero no entiendo ¿por que se abandonaron y ya no se siguen implementando?
xmertin 2 years ago
The Czech and Slovakians had Dubcek and Kundera. Now they have Klaus and sex industry.
fred13400II 2 years ago
And maybe that is better. Kundera was good writer but probably cooperator with communist secret police and Dubcek...pfff...Dubcek was communist and idealist. And he was lucky, very lucky...maybe we can say, that he was morraly good but its no so clear. He was tragic person, not hero.
Mikhassel 2 years ago
He was a great man!
zecco19 2 years ago
A gamier man against the Russian creatures!
cyberarmy007 2 years ago 2
Karel Kryl považoval dubčeka za
sprofanovaného politika aj v r.1968
aj v r.1989 !!
Konfucius1918 2 years ago
to je aky sprofanovany?
pelewi 2 years ago
re:pelewi
sprofanovaný. - znesvätený, zneuctený, znevážený,alebo skôr skurvený, to znamená zbavený charakteru.
MegaBordell 2 years ago 2
takze kryl bol ortodoxny komanč? za to ze chcel trosku "ludskejsi komunizmus"? viem ze tie slova ludskost a komunizmus nejdu do kopy ale inak to nvm povedat :D
pelewi 2 years ago
Karel bol slušný Človek,zatiaľ čo dubček
bol celoživotný komunista aj keď sa na
starosť tváril že je sociálny demokrat.
Karel ho považoval za krivý charakter
napr. za podpísanie tzv Moskovských
protokolov (o skaze republiky) za
podpísanie tzv obuškového zákona
v r.1969 (je treba sa opýtať pamätníkov)
dnešná mládež už nevie nič o historických
súvislostiach
Konfucius1918 2 years ago
Potom "hrdina" a plačko dubček 20
rokov mlčal,k tomu normalizačnému
hnoju nepovedal nič a po "revolúcii"
vehementne hatil lustrácie
Konfucius1918 2 years ago
Som zvedavý , čo by si robil ty keby na tvojej ulici striehla nepretržite Štb 24hodín denne , kebyže vieš , že vždy keď nastúpiš do električky nastúpia s tebou dvaja agenti a keď ťa niekto nebodaj len pozdraví tak ho na mieste legitimujú a toto je len vrchol ľadovca. On tu žiť nemusel , mohol odísť do zahraničia dostávať ceny a akademické tituly , ale ostal .
Mesherschmit 2 years ago 2
A čo mu pre Kristove rany bránilo v odchode z CS ?!
Mohol ísť "ohurovať " masy na západ s tým jeho "socializmom s ľudskou tvárou"
Okolo tohto roztrasenéh pseudo demokrata sa vytvoril mýtus ktorý je výsledkom hrubej neznalosti dejín v spojení so Štokholmským syndrómom !
Konfucius1918 2 years ago
Čo mu v tom bránilo? Charakter , také ty nemáš. A jeho demokratické zmýšlanie bolo možno väčšie ako u väčšiny prozápadných politikov.
Mesherschmit 2 years ago
Ak má niekto demokratické zmýšlanie tak
potom nemôže obhajovať a presadzovať
leninsko-marxistickú ideológiu a vnucovať
každému ten váš zvrátený komunizmus
cez článok 4 ústavy ČSSR o totálnej
hegemónii moci v rukách rudej spodiny !
Konfucius1918 2 years ago
Komunizmus zlyhal na predstaviteľoch , ktorí ho presadzovali železnou päsťou . Zlyhal na tom , že neotvorili hranice na tom , že tu existoval policajný štát s totalitnými prvkami . Čo si myslíš prečo padol komunizmus , lebo ľudia si mysleli , že na západe je bohviečo a dnes poniektorí dokonca pád socializmu ľutujú.
Mesherschmit 2 years ago
M.R.Štefánik považoval komunizmus za budúci celosvetový problém a anticivilizačnú úchylku hneď v zárodku keď videl ako sa to červené svinstvo kotilo na svet v boľševickom rusku,tak mi tu nehovor že myšlienka to bola dobrá,len predstavitelia zlyhali ! Otvor oči pre Boha !
Konfucius1918 2 years ago 2
V tom máš pravdu , že Štefánik videl dopredu a videl aké následky bude mať bolševizmus v Rusku a preto ho chcel s legionarmi potlačiť. Ale to je o inom . Ja som nehovoril , že komunizmus resp. socializmus bol dobrý . Ja sa len snažím vysvetliť , že nie každý bol sviňa typu Gottwald , Novotný alebo Biľak . Aj vtedy existovali slušní ľudia.
Mesherschmit 2 years ago
Žili tu aj slušní ľudia,ale tí neliezli do partaje !!! (aj keď sa niekoľko mesiacov tvárila že má " ľudskú tvár " )
Konfucius1918 2 years ago
Dobre ak ty tvrdíš , že Dubček je pokrytec tak mi skús porovnať ho trebárs Biľakom .Nikto nehovorí , že bol svätý , ale z tých všetkých komunistických pohlavárov resp. mal nahväčšiu popularitu a ťažko hodnodiť jeho správanie , kedže bol pri moci krátko .
Mesherschmit 2 years ago
Rozdiel je tam taký že biľak mal byť opretý o betónový múr a zastrelený ako prašivý pes a dubček mal vyfasovať doživotie v nejakom peknom pracovnom tábore(dôvody sú uvedené v mojich početných predchádzajúcich príspevkoch)
Konfucius1918 2 years ago
Na to nie sú právne prostriedky a ani politická vôla . Dubček mal podporu u verejnosti takže tu by si ho nikto nedovolil kritizovať . A mimochodom stačí sa pozrieť k našim postfederálnym bratom a uvidíš , že komunisti sú 3. najsilnejšou stranou .
Mesherschmit 2 years ago
@Mesherschmit Bohužel. Ale Biľak měl aspoň sedět. naše státy by vypadaly věrohodněji. Jenže: Soudí soudci, kteří posílali za vyjádření názoru disidenty do vězení, tak co bychom chtěli, že?
traplican 1 year ago
@Mesherschmit No, to máš pravdu. Jenže to jsou Íkváči, kteří si nedokáží srovnat v hlavě, že socialisticky pracovat - kapitalisticky žít se nepoštěstí každému a že komunismus a socialialismus není slučitelný s ekonomickou a politickou svobodou. Ještě tak je slučitelná politická a občanská nesvoboda s ekonomickou svobodou prominentů, jak to vidíme v Číně, ale to má ke krásným snům daleko ...
traplican 1 year ago
Kdyby Dubček skutečně měl nějaký charakter, tak by nikdy nepodepsal Moskevský protokol nebo "pendrekový zákon" na základě kterého byli biti a stříleni demostrující de facto na JEHO podporu v srpnu 1969
LKHK76 2 years ago
Kdyby Dubček měl charakter, tak by udělal to morální minimum které měl a to nepodepsal tzv. "Moskevský protokol" legalizující ruskou okupaci. A estébáci ho hlídat ve skutečnosti nemuseli, vždyť on byl jen aparátčík odstavený na vedlejší kolej a ne žádná hrozba pro režim
LKHK76 1 year ago
@LKHK76 Přesně tak. Kriegel taky nepodepsal. Politici jsou jako vojáci: Očekává se od nich, že vy vypjatých situacích si zachovají tvář. Kdo nemůže ustát svůj postoj, může například odstoupit. František Kriegel taky nepodepsal.
traplican 1 year ago
Ty si snad z dejepisu prepadol ...
Beejby 2 years ago
ja som nedavno o nom kukal dokument ale ja nic proti nemu nemam akosi, jednoducho nezazil som jeho dobu...
pelewi 2 years ago
wasnt dubcek a marxist?
fettergraf 2 years ago 2
no, he was a man that wanted to give socialism a human face.
dieguiguar 2 years ago
Nic než loutka?
dekamer01 2 years ago 2
This man stood up for his country and said no more!!!!
Do you want to see or hear it again in your mind?
NO MORE MO MORE NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Call me crazy, but the Czech people had a right to live!!
prosim85 2 years ago 2
nie jestem czeskiem ale zawsze mialem do
pana aleksandrowi wielkie respekt bylem w bratyslawie na cmetarzu gdzie jest jego grobu
zawsze takze zapamietamy jego usmiech
troche smutny. niektore polakow oraz czechow
trakuja go jako kommunista ale ja nie ..
poniewaz mysle ze bylo naprawde ucziwy
chcial naprawde tworzyc jakiego ludzkiego
socjalismu ,tak mysle;;;
tak mi se wydaje.pan aleksander zostaje w zazdym razie w moim serdcu na zawsze jako bohaterem.
BLYSK4753 2 years ago 16
He did impossibile for freedom, more like all emigrants together! Because he stayed and changed the situation from inside.
andrisvk 3 years ago 2
nice enough guy but he was no marshal tito...in the face of russian threats he should have followed his lead and fortified his country like tito...then made it clear to the russians that they would have a fight on their hands................still....a pioneer and way ahead of his time
jonc74 3 years ago
Bobomlani o'rtog'i bo'lganla, birga Moskvada komshkolada uqigan.
mizamov 3 years ago
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Len tak mimochodom,Karel Kryl nemal dubčeka rád ani na konci 60 rokov ani o 20 rokov neskôr pri tzv "sametovce".Nikdy mu neveril a mládež by tiež mala vedieť že "hrdina" dubček podpísal v r.1969 tzv.obuškový zákon ktorý umožňoval zmlátiť každého kto protestoval proti okupácii.
Konfucius1918 3 years ago
podpísal, bol donútený.
foofi89 3 years ago
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Greatest Men Of History:
1 Che Guevara
2 Thomas Sankara
3 Ho Chi Minh
4 Alexander Dubcek
5 Salvador Allende Gossens
6 Ahmed Ben Bella
7 Emiliano Zapata
8 Subcomandante Marcos
Hasta la victoria siempre
Gianlucj 3 years ago
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why dubcek? he didnt really do anything.
bobek3x 3 years ago
U are an idiot, first read and learn, that speak. He did all what was possible, what more, he did impossibile!
andrisvk 3 years ago 2
are you czech or slovak? did you learn about him in school? tell me..what did he do? he was an icon , a nice guy for sure but onlyto increase his popularity...do you know what he did after his plans were wrecked? he didnt try again..he just went along with the commuists..he even signed a censorship law...
czechitout963 3 years ago
I am Slovak, right. I learned in school but I read a lot of things from our history by myself. I saw documents about Him. I saw what people arround him told about his life. I saw how people in Chechoslovakia loved him because of his charisma.
andrisvk 3 years ago 2
Increase popularity? In communism? You know what you are speaking about? That was NOTHING like popularity that time, everything was controlled (also media...) - yes he tried again and again. But there were years he was locked in his house without possibility to live public life. You... can´t immagine that.
andrisvk 3 years ago
ok..he had a good heart and thanks to him the czech nation had hope but he for sure doesnt belong to the top 10 greatest men...
bobek3x 2 years ago