Jesse Ventura on the Alex Jones Show:"Time for Change" pt1

[comdragon90]

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[mikesymbian7]

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[themios72]

good way to start the revolution hunt down all the zionist and kill em all!

[dragun39]

How come people like Jesse Ventura, Ron Paul and others are using the word "revolution" often? Then people like Alex Jones are continuously trying to create fear and panic, which will manipulate the naive masses into becoming anti government, which is a necessary step in order to create mass chaos and finally a new order. Everyone who listens to broadcasts like this should be careful. Things are not always as they seem superficially. There are many wolves in sheep's clothing. Jones = fraud

[slckr80s]

Your comment and logic doesn't even make sense. How would a social revolution and anti government sentiment equate to a 'new (world) order'? Surely ignorance and apathy would lead to this. The only 'new order' caused by a revolution would be freedom.

[dragun39]

A revolution would serve as the cover for the implimentation of the new system. If they just started to create a new world order right now, it would be obvious to everyone as to what was going on. But in an environment of mass chaos and civil war, everyone in the end will want a new system to save them from the mess and whatever system comes in place will in the minds of the people be there as a result of the revolution, not something that was preplanned by the global elites

[slckr80s]

In that case, what you're describing simply isn't a revolution, or at least not my kind of revolution anyway. A revolution should be self-organized and in solidarity with one another against our oppressors. Any civil war would consist of the authoritarian State on one side and the freedom fighting People on the other side. Fact is, the development of some form of 'new world order' narrative is taking place right now and we need to fight it by dismantling our states and it's agents.

[dragun39]

NWO narrative only serves to create hate for government. Destruction of the US will help bring it about. Any revolution can be subverted. Its not going to be authoritarian state on one side and citizens on the other. They will have their people in government, against government, in military/police, against military/police, "citizen groups against tyranny", etc. Doesn't matter what the rhetoric is, just as long you go in the intended direction. Gives maximum control of outcome

[slckr80s]

First of all, I say "some form of 'NWO' narrative", because that paradigm needs to be identified. You mention the 'destruction of the US', other narratives simply annex the US with other mass territories. Any revolution can be subverted but THE revolution cannot. If the masses are informed, educated and united, how can they be held back? You need to identify who 'they' are. As far as I am concerned, the state and their corporate paymasters are our oppressors, as such, they will be crushed.

[einsatzdeath]

You are totally right. People talk about overthrowing the government, but that would only further NWO agenda. That whole apparatus would remain intact and would consolidate power with the new regime on a much bigger scale.

When people talk shit about overthrowing the government and then demean the military, I have to laugh. Good luck staging a revolution without the support of the armed forces.

[dragun39]

Ya the best way is to start a revolution internally and possibly be attacked externally from a foreign country as well. Once you have a major world war raging, countries destroyed, and people desperate for peace, then the new world order could be set up by bringing everyone together. The world would be divided up into 4 or 5 different zones. Even if it would be a new order, nobody would be against it, ..because peace would be the highest priority on everyone's mind in such a terrible time

[einsatzdeath]

Nah, it's true. All of these revolutions like in Russia, China, Cuba, etc. They start out like things are going to be much better, like they're fighting for freedom. Then once the revolution is over they become slave states. Like the Nazis. He executed Ernst Rohm and his stormtroopers once he consolidated his power.

[slckr80s]

Very simplistic, apathetic views here. Still fail to state who is behind nwo dialectic and how they depart from other structures of power. structures and apparatus of power are intrinsic, sytematic and even at times opposing. in your version, the people dont do anything but pray for peace. What of the the people that will die for liberation, via solidarity and revolution? even if that means taking up arms and engaging in guerilla warfare w/ military? It wont be the first time.

[einsatzdeath]

Well, these people better gain support of military veterans who understand weapons and tactics or they will be killed by them. Pretty simple. You can overthrow the government but groups of former military will just overthrow them. Look at the street-fighting in Germany after WWI. The Freikorps militia had all of the military vets and slaughtered everybody in street-fighting.

[slckr80s]

By a large, military personnel and soldiers are dehumanized killing machines. They just do what they are told from whatever hegemony and cause they serve. The peoples hypothetical armed revolution would be a voluntary endeavor. These people will be united by freedom and control of their own lives. Among the ranks of these soldiers-guerilla, paramilitary, etc- their will always be tactically and technically adept fighters, including brother and sisters, sons and daughters of military personnel.

[einsatzdeath]

So you're going to get family members of military personnel but not themselves? You're a fucking moron. First off, I wouldn't count on it, and you don't inherit tactical know-how by blood. The first sentence you typed spoke volumes of your intelligence. Most military have their own views and do their job cuz it's their job. Just like other people do their jobs and pay taxes to the government. These killing machines have their own idea of a revolution, and they'll kill yours quick as fuck.

[slckr80s]

"So you're going to get family members of military personnel but not themselves?" Likewise, this devastatingly ignorant question exposes you as a shit-eating dick-wad cretin. You seriously need an education in common sense and plain historical, emipical fact if you think that state militaries(or defacto) operate on the basis of individual thought and horizontal structures of action.

[slckr80s]

You are painfully stupid, your knowledge is random and exposes your ineptitude on the subject. Rohm? the Freikorps militia? did the Wehrmacht soldiers have 'own views' that they inplemented in actions independant of OKH orders? Military organisations are the best examples of rigid, hierarchical strutures of power you idiotic little shit. Also, the Freikorps argument is painfully moot. These were paramilitaries in defeated, undesirable 'Second Reich' Germany, who were government controlled.

[slckr80s]

Finally, back to your ridiculously ignorant question: No I wouldn't hypothetically "get" anyone to do anything. As I mentiontioned before, you blind or thick shit, a true revolution is voluntary. Thus, relatives of military personnel or personnel themselves may happen to radicalise themselves for the sake of economic, cultural, social, and political freedom. Of course an objective would be to get soldiers on side. This would be a long, gradual education process. Now fuck off you simple cunt.

[einsatzdeath]

Hahahaha! Yep, it's true! You are a fucking moron, to put it succinctly. Your objective will fail. Soldiers ain't going to be patronized by some douche. They'll never be on your side. They will form their own sides and knock you down. It's like Mao said, power comes from the barrel of a gun. It's true. The only true executive power is violence. For a violent revolution, you're going to need as many trained fighter as possible. Good luck getting them, chief.

[einsatzdeath]

Well, these paramilitaries crushed what should have been revolutions. Notice that you don't have any point? These dudes weren't government-controlled, though they were willing to secure the status quo from their enemies. The Spartacists spurned the military, they all died. The Bolsheviks embraced the military and encouraged them to fight with them, they succeeded.

[slckr80s]

Please stop insulting me, you're really hurting my feelings here. I'm sensitive to the comments of nonsensical, ill-educated cocksuckers. You approach politics like a child approaching a game of Risk. Your discourse is riddled with simplistic rhetoric and concepts; "soldiers...forming their own sides and knocking me down." Your fascist-obsessed argument still dies on it's ass. Germany was a defeated country, these militia suppressed occasional communist uprisings. Move on.

[slckr80s]

Not only WHERE the Freikorps controlled by the Weimar Republic, they were also on the fucking payroll of the government. You have such a hard on for the protection and consolidation of power of the 'minority of the opulent'. My point? the '36 Spanish Revolution, but specifically Spanish Catalonia from '36-'39. The Durruti Column were even respected by their enemies. There is your fucking revolution.

[slckr80s]

(sic, my last comment; 'WERE' not 'WHERE')

...The Hungarian Revolution, 1956;

Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine post WWI; student and eventual public resistance to military- Kwangju Uprising, '80...Charlie, please don't reply until you educate yourself, this is fast becoming tedious. Cheers.

[einsatzdeath]

The only real flaw to your argument is simply that you don't have one. Do you even realize the point you're trying to make anymore? You just spout facts meaningless to your argument and speak like a wimpier version of Dr. Doom. It's pretty pathetic. Honest, what the fuck are you even talking about anymore? You just say one stupid thing to the next? "The Durruti Column were even respected by their enemies. There is your fucking revolution." Okaaaay... Cool, dude!

[slckr80s]

Good, solid comeback you make. No way have you run out of theoretical steam, and you DEFINITELY do not sound like a desperate boy who can ONLY resort to greaseball name calling.

My argument has been consistent. I initially responded to 'dragun39's comment about nwo narrative trajectories. My argument was to define a revolution AND propose the social radicalization of the majority as opposed to the apathetic passivity that 'dragun39' suggested. Then you tagged along and debased the whole topic.

[slckr80s]

The irony is that you make a desperate song and dance about me not having and argument, I always refute this with examples and elaboration. Then your last comment- no comeback whatsoever, ONLY throw-away insults. "Dr Doom"? Damn that was harsh, go easy on me, please! You also quote me, but then do not refute ANYTHING. At this point I'm guessing and hoping you have to be under 16 years old. That would be the only thing that lets you off the hook. What is YOUR point? apart from fascist fetishism?

[einsatzdeath]

Yeah, the thing is, you're just starting to get boring. I like how you cry about name-calling but you've been having at it. Anyhow, you fail to make a point. I'm not even sure what it is anymore. You're arguing that you don't need trained military-fighters to carry out a violent revolution and consolidate power. Your examples don't fit the narrative. Most notably your initial example of the Durruti Column really makes my point for me. You're pretty typical of a pseudo-intellectual: BORING!

[slckr80s]

I hate to get all school yard on you, but YOU started the name calling. It's often the guy with the failed argument that initially resorts to this tactic. I began to diss you as retaliation. I'm not going to bend over. AGAIN, your claim that i don't have a point simply doesn't have legs, I have now provided several examples and detail. AGAIN, ironically I ask you for your point, you fail to give it. I wonder why? Is it because your only point is that I have no point?

[slckr80s]

"You're arguing that you don't need trained military-fighters to carry out a violent revolution and consolidate power. Your examples don't fit the narrative" This is NOT my argument. You are confused. Of course an objective would be to get soldiers (military) on side. I have ALREADY said this earlier. I have not spoken of a fascistic minority "consolidating power". This exposes your political ideas. I talk about the majority resisting oppression, and rejecting hierarchical structures of power.

[slckr80s]

It should also be noted that the Durruti Column fighters were of course TRAINED but not military soldiers and they heroically resisted state repression.

So again: My argument was to define a revolution AND propose the social radicalization of the majority as opposed to the apathetic passivity that 'dragun39' suggested. THIS IS MY POINT!!! WHAT IS YOUR POINT!!! PLEASE DO NOT JUST MAKE AN EMPTY REPLY TO MY LAST COMMENT, TELL ME YOUR POINT OR AT LEAST REFUTE MINE CONVINCINGLY!!! PLEASE!!!

[einsatzdeath]

My point is that you can't fight power successfully without gaining support of the military's fighters. That's all I've ever stated. I'm guessing you're an anarcho-syndicalist judging by the fact that you don't think you'll need to consolidate power. Durruti fighters were unconventional non-state militants. They were not fighting state repression, they were actually fighting against rebels. They were not successful either. So, go back to school.

[slckr80s]

Actually, they were fighting state repression. They fought off the falangists in Madrid as well as Nationalists during the Spanish Civil War, as de facto Republicans. Were they successful? Yes and no. They succeeded in a stateless society with socio-economic egalitarianism and individual freedom. They also succeeded in death standing up then life on their knees. However, Soviet meddling and the fascistic Franco forces eventually defeated the revolution...

[slckr80s]

"They were not successful either". I expected you to say this and you're right, ultimately they weren't successful. That doesn't negate my point however as you can still learn a lot from history's failures as well as it's victories. Furthermore, if we are to use that point, then look at your example; the Freikorps members were not successful, eventually(WW2). Or, none of the axis forces of WW2 were successful. Countless example's of unsuccessful military action, so you need to school hard.

[einsatzdeath]

Yeah, the axis forces were destroyed by stronger military forces. What would your point be on this? "They also succeeded in death standing up then life on their knees." That's respectable, but wouldn't a victory be better?  "However, Soviet meddling and the fascistic Franco forces eventually defeated the revolution..." See, this is what I'm saying. Without strong, military forces, you're going to be victimized. Try to refute this all you want, you really can't do it.

[slckr80s]

"Yeah, the axis forces were destroyed by stronger military forces." I agree with this, however, it was also down to strategic, tactical and political adeptness by the Allied campaign. A good example of this is, Viet Nam War(insurgents embarrass US). I already said a process of re education in regards to what Althusser referred to as, institutional state apparatus', would be important. What's most important are actions and values, not necessarily instant successes from which we learn nothing.

[snowfallzz]

PPL that don't believe Alex Jones can kiss my ass. The truth is obvious, I'm glad he keeps people informed at least as much as he can. And for the guy that says why doesn't he touch on the Zionists? Or talk about Jews? Fisrt of all you can't blame some guy who's Jewish..that's dumb.Jews don't believe in controll as a matter of fact there some of the biggest groups against Socialism, why? duh. think about it.If A.J. Talked about Zionist stuff they could oust him and they want him out.

[Zapparulez1978]

Some of things he rails on about are just so hard to believe that I just can't go that far. When it comes to evil designs of the government(federal, state, and local) to take away our freedoms, I think he is right on. I have a feeling I will die guns ablazin' in defense of my freedom.

[ITwarriorTI]

damn typo's sorry

[ITwarriorTI]

The only reason why ALex is still alive is because he didn't otuch to the zionist, I am sure he knows the truth but if he wants to wake so people he as to stay alive and this is the only way, look at Iran their speaking out about the zionist and there about to be invaded remember that the zionist are far more powerfull than any of you can imagine so powerfull that even me won't speak to much about them.

[sidcrowe]

I love Jesse, but I can't recommend or email this vid to anyone because Alex Jones is an embarrassment.

It's the BANKERS, man! They own our currency, which means we face an enemy which owns our blood.

Get it? We face an enemy, and the enemy already owns our blood. How do you out-wrestle, or out-box an enemy that already owns your blood?

Jones leaves Zionists, Israel and the bankers out of his criticisms, and instead fucks around with Bohemian Grove all the time.

An embarrassment.

[toddw14]

I know that, he moved to mexico to get away from all the politics and go under the radar. And I think his wife's health had sumthing to do with it as well. I don't think he did it to turn his back on america and what not.

[toddw14]

Can you blame him? At least he's speaking out about our govt.  not like those elitists that really don't care at all and don't say anything.

[AloveK20]

THE

MOST

B O R I N G

vedio i ever saw!!

[rodneykingman]

Yup

[rodneykingman]

Not to mention a bit o' book promotion in thar...

[spliffsperlunk]

Dr Paul for president

Jessie ventura for vice president.

= win win for american citizens.

[wdcsucks1]

an attack on the constitution is an attack on you, dont you people get it!!!!

[CheiniBzzz]

Dear Americans.

How can you not have chosen to riot against the real evil, The White House Bros?

You soon will need a Brand New Constitution.

[Gibson2480]

what will a riot do? The only informed people get imprisoned and killed? It is not going to be a violent revolution, the New World Order nutcases are DYING to mow us down. You guys must understand you will only attain freedom by your own responsible utilization of TRUTH and true knowledge. You are more powerful than PRESIDENTS because YOU can expose the Rothschilds, Warbergs and Rockefellers, and if not you, WHO? You are the gap between the eye and the pyramid who can expose their banking scams

[OmarThePug]

If you want to know how to make your dollar strong, go out and make everything that has made your dollar weak weak.

Don't sit back...do something! Change the mind of a neighbor. You and your neighbor pissed off have much more power than a corrupt government official.

If your house is worth sh*t and your dollar can't buy you a lap dance...then get out on the streets and make what you have matter!

What do you have to lose?

[Salvatrucho213]

There is still one hour and thirty minutes to file. Jesse Ventura needs to get his ass in there. We need the REVOLUTION NOW!

[jennyliberty]

The Truth movement is way bigger than Politics..

it is not reliant on that 'ole greasy pole', people who think they have power & position or indeed those who strive for power & fame.

I respect Ventura for his honesty and ability to be straight.. even on a personal level, he speaks with wisdom. Honesty will help not hinder the truth movement it is our foundation & centre.

[Thrice13]

Jesse Ventura, this is God. Run! If not, we will be starting the revolution without you!

[kevlarthehorribleone]

I think Alex pressured him too much and it pissed him off.

[anyusmoon1]

I don't understand why ANY governor should be traveling to foreign countries on the dime of their constituents. Governors have no authority to form treaties and basically shouldn't be running off around the world.

Am I wrong?

[amr857]

He's a sexual Tyrannosaurus!

[sumonomen]

that is the oddest, most random thing i've ever heard. thanks :P

[alifico]

was he more faux opp.?

[rodneykingman]

Hot off the presses:

The only place Jesse will be running this fall is to Mexico.

[anyusmoon1]

probably :-( maybe its not a bad idea. :0( I'm so sick of all this stuff.

[XXXXGodXXX]

This is God,

I ORDER JESSE VENTURA TO RUN FOR THE SENATE!

[ChrisCrockerTime]

I will admit it was embarrassing for him to "announce" not to run. That doesn't require an announcement on Larry King, nor does it deserve one. It's a slap in the face to everyone, not just the media, but his fans. That being said, good thing he's not running - what a loser. He's insane and a 9/11 conspiracy nut, and only would have handed th election to Norm.

[callieland]

what constitutes a 9/11 conspiracy nut? your sage opinion in this matter would be appreciated.

[911insidejo8]

Basically anyone who can look at all of this craziness and can clearly see this is a fraud and that our government is at war with the American people while pretending in the media spinning their doublespeak, doublethink and just out-and-out lies. That constitutes a conspiracy nut.

Also, reading documents like W199I, the Civilian Inmate Labor Prgm, wondering aloud how a major skyscraper-Blg 7-could have fallen without being hit by a plane.

All this constitutes a conspiracy nut.

[911insidejo8]

What constitutes a patriot by O'Reilly?:

-Pledging fidelity to a criminal president

-Pretending 911 was done entirely by terrorists and ignoring the terrorist network was cultivated and protected by Bush (see W199I)

-Believing that our leaders love us and that all these crisises (value of dollar, no jobs, war, terror, etc)were done either by democrats or are the work of outside forces (Muslim extremists are the preferred scapegoats).

[atrickpay11]

Ventura/Paul 2012

Liberals want to be your Mommy.

Conservatives want to be your Daddy.

Libertarians want to treat you like an adult.

[gogetta411]

Ventura is a coward for not running and in my opinion is not relevant anymore. Imagine what he could have accomplished in the senate

[JoshS24]

I agree, I lost a bit of respect for him today. Its a waste of our time to sit here and listen to him talk, and cart himself from network to network noting all these horrible things about the country then waste his oppurtunity to place himself in a position of power to change our country for the better.

[Salvatrucho213]

I also agree with you. I am pissed at Ventura for such a selfish reason. He toyed too much with running for the Senate and falsely misguided and gave hope to his followers. I think that it is despicable what he did. He played with everyone's emotions. It felt like a slap in the face.

[rodneykingman]

Why would Jesse run for ANY office. He was a Navy SeAL, he was a governor, he was a pro wrestler, he is an author, he has made millions of dollars, he lives in Mexico more-than-likely in some epic jungle resort town on the beach, he lives a millionaires life soaking in 77 degree water drinking smoothies and margaritas under palm trees outside of the United States...

What more can you ask for?

[rodneykingman]

He would have to be a nut job to get back into politics this late in the game.

You know where Jesse will be when martial law breaks out after the '08 elections muthafucka... Sippin' top shelf rum from a banana daiquiri glass in a teak lounge chair pool-side in a 5 star Mexican resort-villa eating Ahi sushi off the back of a naked 20 year old girl named Juanita...

[Kaybowser]

Another Great interview with Jesse. Jesse "Says it like it is". No BS.

Thanks for posting.

[isreal423]

What are we doing to spread this information?

quit being lazy and start burning dvds for those with no computer oblivious.

make it habit to always have a dvd burning while sleeping and while at work.

[kryyo]

i said we call him General Ventura...one of the General

[lovenbeauty1]

Get rid of the EGO!

[lovenbeauty1]

you guys just don't get it! STOP DANCING! There is no future with the Federal Reserve in existence.

[killersoundboy]

forgive me for being stupid whats the 4th amendment

[LiquidMetalBand]

It's always great to hear Ventura speak. I idolise this man, and didn't even know who he was until a few months ago..!

[Toxie207]

I can't find Bugliosi's book "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder" in major UK bookshops. Is it being released here? Andrew, Glasgow, Scotland.

[basketballfreak24]

takes a brave person to actually want to change things foreal. i hear alot of senators getting shot down when they go against the grain so i dont know how much he can really change in that position. the president seems to be the only position that can instantly change the country(for better or worse)

[pondman27]

The entity within the shadows will show itself soon. Make sure you have a niche ready to climb into that can sustain you for a few months. Just speculation, but the signs are all there. Good luck to all free spirits, courage and peace.

[crypter27]

Our econimy is in bad shape!

[happosai21]

first! xD