the mammoths would probaly kill alot of humans and other animals but it would be cool to see one i always wanted to see a dodo but if you can clone extinct animals people will have to stop killing animals and taking care of them
What extinct animals are there that there is non-fossilized remains of that open the possibility of future cloning if technology improves? Here's the ones I can think of:
- Mammoth, of course
- Tasmanian Tiger
- Aurochs
- Passenger Pigeons
- Dodo birds (I think I've heard desiccated partial remains have been found)
From the same frozen region as the Mammoth
- Giant Elk
- Woolly Rhino
To the best of my knowledge no Sabretooth Tiger flesh of any kind has ever been found, just bones.
bring it on, genetic engineering should be used to make a huge range of new creatures for the pet industry if only we didn't have the moralist standing in the way
The major hurdle (as I understand it) is the integrity of the DNA that is available. Dodos appear out of thenquestion because there are simply no specimens left to DNA from. Thylacines are a possibility. Alcohol, which many older specimens are preserved, breaks down DNA. There have been efforts to reverse this a nd reassemble DNA. Also, there is work being done to save DNA samples of endangered species still alive in hopes of cloning them in the future.
It IS happening. In less than six years we WILL have reproduced a Woolly Mammoth - if everything goes as planned. We recently brought the "blood" back intact... in... fact.
It's not letting me post these links properly! :(
Check Science Daily and Outside The Beltway with a Google search.
There was a story that came out in January about a Japanese scientist (Professor Akira Iritani of Kyoto University ) who was planning to use a cloning technique developed in 2008 by the Riken Center for Developmental Biology's Dr. Teruhiko Wakayama.
Or a pharoah ? I don't know exactly. My guess is you need to transcribe the genome. You may not need a piece of viable tissue but enough that the DNA could be sequenced. Then diff the code with an elephant to see the differences. Perhaps you can reverse engineer the code in a modern pachyderm. Then clone and implant and see what pops out. Dodos maybe, passenger pigeons, Genome transcription/reverse engineering will be the technique IMHO
@unassumption I'd be surprised if it ever happened too, as a species we face bigger problems which are going to require more of our efforts and attention.
I think there is a point defending evolution, reason and science from attacks from the ignorant...
You young folks probably can't remember a time when there was no internet and nobody had mobile phones!
Defending evolution to certain people is worth it, it all depends if their mind is open or not, and the way you should defend it depends on the audience too. I had 3 distinct 'successes' in defending it. Just a lot more failures. I say history is on our side and for the most part, we should focus on stopping this spreading to the next generation, and hope it dies out, at least, as a political power. I recall dialup, but only because we didn't get broadband until 08 in my family.
Why make a boring old species when we can tinker with the genes of what we got and make our own new monstrosities? Hope biology becomes as synthetic as chemistry one day.
There's no point defending evolution - half the Internet is dedicated to that and it hasn't taught them anything their minds aren't open to hear. Its tempting to try and i have been successful on 3 occasions, but i usually link quick sources like donexodus2 or other online resources on evolution.
In every single case of preserved mammoths (and there are only a few), the animal had undergone considerable decay prior to being freeze-dried and, when thawed out, gave off an almost unendurable stench. I doubt they could get intact DNA in those cases.
@WildwoodClaire1 Interesting, I thought that there were many well preserved frozen examples. I heard that people had eaten mammoth last century - maybe this is an urban myth?
@WildwoodClaire1 there is better chance in cloning a mammoth then dinosaurs because there not bones in the ground without flesh or blood. trust me there will be one in couple of years
@Norax7 I would rather see an animal cloned that still has available habitat and was only eradicated through man's venality or stupidity. For example, I would love to see Thylacines cloned.
When you clone an extinct animal it will actually have the mitochondrial DNA of it's surrogate mother. So a cloned Mammoth would actually be part elephant.
@markdzima I doubt it. I was under the impression that there were many well preserved frozen mammoths, but WildwoodClaire is saying that that is not the case...
There are major problems but the curiosity both scientific and general is very strong. I'm not certain but I don't believe the Sabre Tooth Tiger is very closely related to the modern big cats. There are only two living examples of that category of animals and they are very small. They do have some relationship to modern cats but the split off was a very long time ago. Their teeth are not the oddest thing about them.
I would completely agree with bringing them back, as long as they are kept in a sort of sanctuary or zoo like habitat and not let loose in the wild. releasing foreign animals to locations can have bad effects. I'm not trying to link this video to religion because it wasnt about that, but i think a lot of people would oppose bringing back extinct animals cuz if they are dead, the would god wanted them to be gone, or that it was ment to be.
anubis said they are working on it and he's right.....but you always need an existing mammal for a 100% result to carry it out. In the case of the mammoth i might be an elephant, only the birth weight of a mammoth is different so the mother must being scarified at every time you make such an experiment. The problems are the same for any other extinct species who would not have interbreed with an actual existing species. At least agree that there are major ethic problems.
They are currently working on this, Canada and Siberia are very interested in creating wildlife refuges for mammoths and Mastodons if we can bring them back, though the techniques will probably take another 20 years to be financially practical.
@finlarg An interesting thing about mammoth resurrection is that for the first generation, the Mammoths would have to live in tandem with elephant populations learn elephant "Culture". Mammoths would then have to be taught how to live in the wild by humans to show them topical conditions and places they can go to in lean years if food is scarce. Most elephants live 80 years and learn vast areas of land and foods that they can eat stored in their memory.
I'm no expert, but I have looked into this in the past. Sofar all attempts to get mammoth DNA have failed, but there is a joint effort by Russian and Japanese scientists on it. There has been successful births of clones of endagered and extinct species, but none have lasted long yet. There has also been attempts to ativate the dinosaur genes in chicken embryos that have produced teeth and longer tails.
@finlarg even natural cell division degrades the genetic content, that's why we age and die. We just haven't found an artificial way to do it anywhere near as efficient as nature
@finlarg Every chromosome in the cell has telomere, a part of the DNA helix that shortens every time the cell divides. The shortening of the telomere appears as ageing of the animal. So if the genetic material used in cloning comes from an adult specimen, the clone can live only as long as the original animal had years left.
They really should only do it only for scientific perposes. I think it would be a scientific goldmind not only in terms of learning about the specific animals themselves, but would help them to improve theories about all extinct creatures. ^_^
bloody brilliant, to see a mammoth, finally a bit closer :D
jeffreycoco 3 days ago
bloody brilliant, to see a mammoth, finally a bit closer :D
jeffreycoco 3 days ago
neh. I would like to clone these animals .
wooly mammoth. yeah.
tasmanian tiger
the neanderthals
and the giant arthropods
and of course the sabretooth
also T- rex
brendan100ify 1 week ago
@brendan100ify the neanderthals would be my choice....
scorpioninpink 1 week ago
the mammoths would probaly kill alot of humans and other animals but it would be cool to see one i always wanted to see a dodo but if you can clone extinct animals people will have to stop killing animals and taking care of them
Luigi32826 2 weeks ago
@Luigi32826 dodo bird would be cool...
scorpioninpink 1 week ago
Skyrim has all those extinct animals.
YoungMoney835 2 weeks ago
..Bringing back Extinct Animals > Giving Birth to & Saving more psychotic Humans.
Dungarth 2 weeks ago
What extinct animals are there that there is non-fossilized remains of that open the possibility of future cloning if technology improves? Here's the ones I can think of:
- Mammoth, of course
- Tasmanian Tiger
- Aurochs
- Passenger Pigeons
- Dodo birds (I think I've heard desiccated partial remains have been found)
From the same frozen region as the Mammoth
- Giant Elk
- Woolly Rhino
To the best of my knowledge no Sabretooth Tiger flesh of any kind has ever been found, just bones.
joesmoe71 1 month ago
@joesmoe71 passenger pigeons will also be cool... it's a shame that it has to be extinct in the first place...
scorpioninpink 1 week ago
They already did this to the Aurochs.
TheDinohunter2000 2 months ago
Bring back the THYLACINE
HiddenprojectVIII 4 months ago
Wow....if only pokemon were real. We'd have the Dodo Bird (Doduo) and the Wooly Mammoth! (mamoswine) !!!
cobalion91016 5 months ago
I want the T-rex
FKKhunter 5 months ago
bring it on, genetic engineering should be used to make a huge range of new creatures for the pet industry if only we didn't have the moralist standing in the way
rd1999 9 months ago
The major hurdle (as I understand it) is the integrity of the DNA that is available. Dodos appear out of thenquestion because there are simply no specimens left to DNA from. Thylacines are a possibility. Alcohol, which many older specimens are preserved, breaks down DNA. There have been efforts to reverse this a nd reassemble DNA. Also, there is work being done to save DNA samples of endangered species still alive in hopes of cloning them in the future.
deepashtray 9 months ago
It IS happening. In less than six years we WILL have reproduced a Woolly Mammoth - if everything goes as planned. We recently brought the "blood" back intact... in... fact.
It's not letting me post these links properly! :(
Check Science Daily and Outside The Beltway with a Google search.
JayJayAbels 9 months ago
@JayJayAbels Thanks for that! YT doesn't let you put web addresses in comments, not even YT ones!
finlarg 9 months ago
There was a story that came out in January about a Japanese scientist (Professor Akira Iritani of Kyoto University ) who was planning to use a cloning technique developed in 2008 by the Riken Center for Developmental Biology's Dr. Teruhiko Wakayama.
psychobackpacker 9 months ago
@psychobackpacker Thanks for the info!
finlarg 9 months ago
Or a pharoah ? I don't know exactly. My guess is you need to transcribe the genome. You may not need a piece of viable tissue but enough that the DNA could be sequenced. Then diff the code with an elephant to see the differences. Perhaps you can reverse engineer the code in a modern pachyderm. Then clone and implant and see what pops out. Dodos maybe, passenger pigeons, Genome transcription/reverse engineering will be the technique IMHO
tenagliac 9 months ago
Even if this is biologically possible it won't be politicly possible =/
unassumption 9 months ago
@unassumption I'd be surprised if it ever happened too, as a species we face bigger problems which are going to require more of our efforts and attention.
I think there is a point defending evolution, reason and science from attacks from the ignorant...
You young folks probably can't remember a time when there was no internet and nobody had mobile phones!
finlarg 9 months ago
@finlarg
Defending evolution to certain people is worth it, it all depends if their mind is open or not, and the way you should defend it depends on the audience too. I had 3 distinct 'successes' in defending it. Just a lot more failures. I say history is on our side and for the most part, we should focus on stopping this spreading to the next generation, and hope it dies out, at least, as a political power. I recall dialup, but only because we didn't get broadband until 08 in my family.
unassumption 9 months ago
Why make a boring old species when we can tinker with the genes of what we got and make our own new monstrosities? Hope biology becomes as synthetic as chemistry one day.
There's no point defending evolution - half the Internet is dedicated to that and it hasn't taught them anything their minds aren't open to hear. Its tempting to try and i have been successful on 3 occasions, but i usually link quick sources like donexodus2 or other online resources on evolution.
Your older than I guessed.
unassumption 9 months ago
In every single case of preserved mammoths (and there are only a few), the animal had undergone considerable decay prior to being freeze-dried and, when thawed out, gave off an almost unendurable stench. I doubt they could get intact DNA in those cases.
WildwoodClaire1 9 months ago
@WildwoodClaire1 Interesting, I thought that there were many well preserved frozen examples. I heard that people had eaten mammoth last century - maybe this is an urban myth?
finlarg 9 months ago
@finlarg It's a myth. By the way, it's been around awhile; I heard it repeated in the1950s Sci Fi film "The Beast from 20 Thousand Fathoms."
WildwoodClaire1 9 months ago
@finlarg yes, it is a myth. There are around 40 mammoths with at least some of the tissue preserved.
WildwoodClaire1 7 months ago
@WildwoodClaire1 there is better chance in cloning a mammoth then dinosaurs because there not bones in the ground without flesh or blood. trust me there will be one in couple of years
Norax7 8 months ago
@Norax7 I would rather see an animal cloned that still has available habitat and was only eradicated through man's venality or stupidity. For example, I would love to see Thylacines cloned.
WildwoodClaire1 7 months ago
@WildwoodClaire1 also the dodo bird
Norax7 7 months ago
They should bring back dodos, they must have been delicious !
Al1981X 9 months ago
I want a raptor for a guide dog and a brachiasaurus for a lawnmower. And think of the compost !
Al1981X 9 months ago
@Al1981X I'd like to see pterosaurs flying overhead, that would be pretty cool!
finlarg 9 months ago
Have the cloning techniques been improved enough to prevent the problems that arose concerning Dolly's genetic 'defects'?
irreverentreverend 9 months ago
@irreverentreverend I'm not sure... maybe someone commenting here will know?
finlarg 9 months ago
I don't know much at all about cloning but if the telomere length is an issue I heard the Japanese have a frozen baby mammoth.
Everfrost1000 9 months ago
@Everfrost1000 Vitoldian mentioned the telomere as well.
I nearly put a picture of the frozen baby in the video, but it's not in a good condition... might scare the children!
finlarg 9 months ago
When you clone an extinct animal it will actually have the mitochondrial DNA of it's surrogate mother. So a cloned Mammoth would actually be part elephant.
Everfrost1000 9 months ago
@Everfrost1000 So really, when an animal becomes extinct that's pretty much it... unless or until we make some new biological/ genetic breakthroughs?
finlarg 9 months ago
Could some rich Egyptian, obsessed by the glories of Egypt's ancient past, arrange to successfully clone a pharoah from that pharoah's mummy?
markdzima 9 months ago
@markdzima I doubt it. I was under the impression that there were many well preserved frozen mammoths, but WildwoodClaire is saying that that is not the case...
finlarg 9 months ago
There are major problems but the curiosity both scientific and general is very strong. I'm not certain but I don't believe the Sabre Tooth Tiger is very closely related to the modern big cats. There are only two living examples of that category of animals and they are very small. They do have some relationship to modern cats but the split off was a very long time ago. Their teeth are not the oddest thing about them.
MacNutz2 9 months ago
I would completely agree with bringing them back, as long as they are kept in a sort of sanctuary or zoo like habitat and not let loose in the wild. releasing foreign animals to locations can have bad effects. I'm not trying to link this video to religion because it wasnt about that, but i think a lot of people would oppose bringing back extinct animals cuz if they are dead, the would god wanted them to be gone, or that it was ment to be.
420simpson 9 months ago
anubis said they are working on it and he's right.....but you always need an existing mammal for a 100% result to carry it out. In the case of the mammoth i might be an elephant, only the birth weight of a mammoth is different so the mother must being scarified at every time you make such an experiment. The problems are the same for any other extinct species who would not have interbreed with an actual existing species. At least agree that there are major ethic problems.
goxster 9 months ago
@goxster Without a doubt... if it can't be done without harming existing animals, then personally, I'd rather wait until it could.
finlarg 9 months ago
They are currently working on this, Canada and Siberia are very interested in creating wildlife refuges for mammoths and Mastodons if we can bring them back, though the techniques will probably take another 20 years to be financially practical.
anubis2814 9 months ago 2
@anubis2814 That would be great... just as long as it doesn't detract from efforts to prevent current species from becoming extinct.
finlarg 9 months ago
@finlarg An interesting thing about mammoth resurrection is that for the first generation, the Mammoths would have to live in tandem with elephant populations learn elephant "Culture". Mammoths would then have to be taught how to live in the wild by humans to show them topical conditions and places they can go to in lean years if food is scarce. Most elephants live 80 years and learn vast areas of land and foods that they can eat stored in their memory.
anubis2814 9 months ago
I'm no expert, but I have looked into this in the past. Sofar all attempts to get mammoth DNA have failed, but there is a joint effort by Russian and Japanese scientists on it. There has been successful births of clones of endagered and extinct species, but none have lasted long yet. There has also been attempts to ativate the dinosaur genes in chicken embryos that have produced teeth and longer tails.
Coquipirate 9 months ago
@Coquipirate OK, thanks for that. I wonder what it is that prevents the cloned animals from surviving for long?
finlarg 9 months ago
@finlarg even natural cell division degrades the genetic content, that's why we age and die. We just haven't found an artificial way to do it anywhere near as efficient as nature
Coquipirate 9 months ago
@finlarg Every chromosome in the cell has telomere, a part of the DNA helix that shortens every time the cell divides. The shortening of the telomere appears as ageing of the animal. So if the genetic material used in cloning comes from an adult specimen, the clone can live only as long as the original animal had years left.
Vitoldian 9 months ago
@Vitoldian Fascinating. Would it be possible to clone animals that would live long enough to reproduce naturally and thereby side step that problem?
TheEmpiricalTruth 9 months ago
@TheEmpiricalTruth I'd guess that's possible, but I can't say for sure, since I don't remeber reading about any such instance.
Vitoldian 9 months ago
@Vitoldian I have read about that (or something very similar) a while ago, but thanks for refreshing my memory!
finlarg 9 months ago
They really should only do it only for scientific perposes. I think it would be a scientific goldmind not only in terms of learning about the specific animals themselves, but would help them to improve theories about all extinct creatures. ^_^
CalicoVall 9 months ago
@CalicoVall I think it's very interesting, but at the same time would not like to see any animals suffer, if attemps to do such things fail...
finlarg 9 months ago