I was a huge Dynasty Warriors fan... And given the choice of presenting what we are interested in... I did a presentation on the Han Dynasty in school.
I am not even kidding right now.
It was fun to see how much was real in the game and what had to be altered to still be entertaining.
Ecco the Dolphin got me interested in theories about cetacean intelligence when I was a tiny thing. These days ocean news makes up a pretty big chunk of my life.
After Playing hours of Skyrim and Oblivion, I took the time to learn about tamriel and its history. Sigh... I'm sure that knowledge will be relevant in the future.
Wow, you're right. I actually learned more about the history behind Count Dracula and even read the Bram Stoker novel all because I played Castlevania.
I think schools should relize what potensial games has for learning. I've learned alot from games. I learned english from games, ALOT about history and politics from the Civlopedia, much about WW2 from Call of Duty and so on. If game producers could make games where you could learn while still being entertaining, it would be very effective for learning. I imagine in the future, the schools will use games as a teching medium.
i love the codex from Mass Effect, even tho its a bunch of made up stuff. i find salarian biology facenating and biology class the bane of my existance
I found out about the Spartans after I played GOW1 and found out they were a real ancient city and I did research on them. I was like 11 or 12 and I hated history I totally agree with this video. I love your videos Daniel. (^_^)
I found out about the Spartans after I played GOW1 and found out they were a real ancient city I was like 11 or 12 and I hated history I totally agree with this video. I love your videos Daniel. (^_^)
If you are thinking of having an abortion this is a must see.
I watched this movie called 180 movie it was very good if you are pro-life or pro-choice, watch this award winning documentary and see where you stand at the end. At least watch the trailer and see if you are interested.
@kingdomkeysorariku I perfectly agree, I had a history test on renaissance italy a week after I went on an assassins creed 2 marathon and scored a 98, also I read books from my dads library about the crusades after ac1, and after I get revelations I might convince my family to take a trip to turkey...
this reminds me of how after assasins creed one of my friends dedicated herself to learning about the period and assasins mythology in Coastal southern europe.
japan has been doing this for a long time but instead of bringing educations to game, we went for the opposite of games into education. if you are wondering if that worked, just recall the asian stereotype of we being smart lol. frankly, as a japanese, we've never view ourselves smart but just normal and viewed rest as dumb :)
The problem is we are equating "education" with "academic". Academic is just a system of education, that doesn't mean you can't educate without it. Any "fun" game are educational one way or another, as human being our most important tool of learning is act of instinct, information resource such as book are helpful but not a replacement for instinct. The reason why "educational" game fail is they meant to be "academic", our human nature won't fit in an ivory tower where everything is Platonic.
maybe this comments on my state of mind but the image of him "diving head first" into the topic annoyed me because the picture was not head first - anyone else experience this?
It's for this reason why I loved playing Age of Empires III and the Total War Series, cause they at least have some special spot for historical information that could eat up a significant chunk of time when I was "playing" the game
Even without tangential learning (which, as this video shows, most fun games already have, to varying degrees), video/computer games DO expand your horizons and enrich your life!
They give us stories that enrich our fantasy, empathy (by letting us put ourselves in the shoes of others) and such.
They increase our spatial and coordination skills, multi-tasking, problem solving, perseverance, pattern recognition, estimating, resources management, memory, quick thinking and reasoning...
This is part of what I love about RPGs and certain game series (like Shin Megami Tensei). I tend to find games to be good blackboards for being mirrors of life (blame it on the English / Theater lit influence). I feel that exploring themes about what it means "to live," especially using the dark night of the soul trope, allows us to learn about aspects of ourselves that we may not have become aware of without the influence. That is "good literature."
Dues Ex comes to mind for tangential learning... As an example, I actually read 'The Diamond Age', just to get the 'skull gun' reference that Gunter was talking about. In general, the whole game referenced so many ideas: philosophy, political science, engineering, transhumanism, one world government, modern conspiracy theories, etc... not to mention cosmopolitan experience of visiting different cities / cultures of different countries (hong kong, paris, ny, etc).
As i mentioned in an email i sent to extra credits that was directed to Daniel, i have noticed you must be some form of fan of the samurai (or more specificly sengoku era). This not only surprises, but interests me. Considering i have many ideas i have been polishing for games.
Borderlands is good for math skills: "This shotgun does 126 x 12dmg and has +40% reload speed! This shotgun has +150% critical and x4 Fire elemental! WHAT DO!?"
Wow. In addition to Googling Masamune and Sephiroth, I also learned this was going on without me even realising it. For example, I can name 5 extrusive rocks and their melting points, thanks to Dwarf Fortress and the fact that tknowing thse things helped in the game (different layered rocks are found in different areas, and they may or may not melt when exposed to magma).
Point is, I feel it helps if the knowledge of these facts actually affects gameplay or assists you in some way.
I played the dynasty warriors 6 game (the english one) and that got me interested in the 3 kingdom era of chinese history I basically read up on hours of text, wiki pages and some ROTK transcripts. it works :D
@amIlivinginabox What do you mean "ripped off"? We donated money to save Allison's arm, which lead to her making a full recovery, and now getting an offer to work on the next Darksiders game!
And it's not like it's a secret they got 100.000 from it! They announced it in their own video O.O
Furthermore, they are not putting the money into their own pocket, but rather setting up an indie-game company/helper/thingy for their fans. Are you dumb, bro? Because I think you're dumb, bro.
@Kevster921 Come on, they E-BEGGING their fans. "they are not putting the money into their own pocket" how do you f**king know that? I tell you have no idea where the money went. But they sure will have vacation. And I have alibi.
@amIlivinginabox Yeah, err, no. They said "if you want to donate, donate". Allison had an injured arm, which meant 20.000 in medical bills. After they reached 20.000, people still kept donating, despite knowing that they already had enough. Then they had a poll for people to decide what the remaining money would go to. It ended up going to a NON-PROFIT indie publishing company, and if you look in the comments section on the very site you linked, every donator seems pleased with the decision.
@amIlivinginabox As far as not knowing where the money is, that's bullshit. We know who James is, and we know where he works. We know who Dan is, we know where he works. We know who Allison is, and we know where she (might) work. We know the full details of who they are. Not only would they be the WORST scammers in the world, they would also get hunted down (and fired from their companies) for a puny 80.000? >.>
Btw, why are you so suspicious of EC? What did they do to deserve that treatment?
@amIlivinginabox ....... Because a loan is something you have to pay back, and it's costly and extremely dumb to take one out if you can avoid it. Or maybe she didn't qualify for one. Or maybe the bank was stalling. Or maybe she already had a loan so she couldn't take another one.
To be honest, it's none of my business. They needed money for her arm, or else she would not be able to draw anymore. The community came together in an amazing effort to help, and you're pissing all over that atm.
@elite01171 I was going to say da same thing...... Since basically, it just took everything that happened at that time n shuve it into that game n add altar or ezio in it so you can experience that timeline lawl
I really love the idea of a database in video games!! Not only is it educational, but also it really does help give you an idea of what the atmosphere should be like in the game you are playing! Granted this is coming from a girl who fangirled like crazy when she discovered the database in AC so I might be a little biased >.>
Just because you can read doesn't mean your stupid. Text is like an encryption and peoples minds process this information in different ways. Did you know people who are dyslexic in english may be able to read symbolistic languages like chinese perfectly well? the same goes for dyslexic chinese children reading english. Its because it requires a different part of your brain to process the information. Eg Visualisation and Symbols vs decoding Encrypted letters
Yeah I totally understand what you mean. Also world of warcraft can help you with things like maths (Eg something like working out healing spells overall heals). I found mass effect very interesting and spent hours reading facts on there. I also think things like Windows Live Messenger can help significantly with spelling. If your like me and you hate getting spellings wrong while talking to people. In school I was really bad at spelling and reading, now thanks to the internet i'm brillient.
Non Educational TV and Games I learn from the most.
God Of War gave me a summery of who what and why greek mythology people are.
Also the old hercules disney cartoon gave me a upbeat version of these chacters which gave my little mind neat ideas that gave me learning blocks and being interested.
I know it doesn't have to be in WW2 games, but damn I want some developer to actually make at least one more WW2 game (there's all of 6 years of conflict to draw from but most WW2 games just re-do D-Day and the Allied invasion of Normandy). However it's a good point that games need to take hold of tangential learning opportunities since it would make the game itself far more interesting. Films and TV shows have really taken advantage of it and it's done wonders for them.
A really modern example of this I found is actually Catherine; there are some really great arrangements of classical music in the soundtrack. (Yay, Shoji Meguro!) I've spent some time listening to the original versions of the featured songs and all sorts of other classical music, and it's actually made me really interested in learning more about it! Gasp!
@homeyG75 Let's not forget Age of Mythology. That totally made me curious about the various myths and legends of various civilizations.
And the "Total War" series, whilst not entirely accurate, has taught me tons about the culture and various factiosn back then. Hell, I had never even HEARD of the "Holy Roman Empire" until Medieval Total War.
I added my comment as a note on the video well atleast now I can edit it. some editing should still be possible even if its just for a phew minutes but their should then still be a way to get a moderator to reopen the edit function.
Pokemon, sad as it is, helped me learn to read. I didn't mind not reading until I picked up the game and realized I had to learn, so I played for hours on end so I would understand things. :P
You know, it is ironic, I had never really thought about tangential learning before this. I mean I knew what it was but had never studied it. After this I looked it up and studied it further.
There is some tangential learning in Halo's campaign aspects. Cortana, for example, is named after a ceremonial blade in the Crown Jewels in England--The Sword of Mercy, or the "Curtana" Sword. It's one of the very few remaining pieces of the original Crown Jewels that survived the purge of Oliver Cromwell when he sought to destroy all symbols of the monarchy in the 17th Century. There's a whole story behind the sword about a king learning to rule with mercy and not vengeance. Good stuff.
@mpjama2 In a way it is Tangential learning. The fact that he uses a cartoon character and is a little witty when talking about games 'a subject we are interested in', makes these videos more interesting.
but learning directly from the games aint the only learning way for instant i have some friends wich like h,o,n and aperantly they borrow the names for their caracters from mythology and based some atributes from it so one day in school my teacher were talking about mythology and about these specific names and that made it easy to learn about mythology for my friends
I loved math blaster as a kid. And where in the world is Carmen San Diego. Are these games still available for the new generation of kids as computer learning games?
Thanks to games I've learned so much I would have never even thought about for instance after watching X's playthrough of half life 2 I looked up the lambda mark after playing assassins creed I became.very interested in leonardo da vinci and his war machines and thanks to medal of honor and call of duty I know what operations market garden and overload are and that's just the beginning.
This was amazing to me, simply because I had a perfect example in my head (though most people wouldn't agree with it.) The japanese RPG "Eternal Sonata" is all about Frederic Chopin, and while sometimes it beats you over the head with some of his history, the whole game is essentially not focused on him. It introduces the man, but doesn't go too in depth about him, leaving the player to learn more... And I did. I wrote a history thesis on him after playing that game.
I live in Serbia, and I learned 30% of my English by playing games like Icewind Dale and similar dialogue-rich games... Not to mention movies and music, they helped me sharpen my accent so I now know many accents. :D
there are always fucktards that will use the thumbs down icon just for the fun of it, i really hope them 26 people had a good laugh and soon after dropped dead from sheer stupidity ! btw awsome series, that is all !
Games like Professor Layton proves there is hope for edutainment games. still 1 of my favourite game series ever, and it made me addicted to puzzles that require critical thinking. The same with Phoenix Wright and logical deduction. Also, there are games like LittleBig Planet that made me more interested in creating and allowed me to experience games from the creator's side of things. loved the video!
@Permafry42 Ah you named two of my favorite games! I agree with you on Phoenix Wright and I wish I could agree with you on Professor Layton, but my issue with Layton is that the solution to the overarching mystery in each game is totally ludicrous. I guessed the big twist in game 1 as a joke and the one in game 2 I found completely unbelievable. As a game based in puzzle and mystery, I expect a plausible answer for all the in-game crazy stuff!
alright i respect your opinion. still, imo professor layton was always more about the puzzles than the story. though how you managed to guess that *spoiler alert to those who haven't played professor layton yet* most of the villagers are robots is beyond me...
@Permafry42 When the guy who was supposedly kidnapped suddenly came back, I was going, ":B Maybe he's a robot clone! Or maybe he was a robot all along! Hey! Maybe the entire town is robots! Hahahah!" I felt cheated when I turned out to be right. It was so cheap.
this has infinite potential. Imagine a MMORPG like WOW remade into something educational and interactive.
Imagine learning algebra by having to "solve for x" to kill a monster for gold and experience. .
So I ask WHY NOT?
Why couldn't we do this? After all the EVERY VIDEO GAME in existence. has math and science built into it as a basic foundation. Language could be taught in a game through immersion. Phys ed is already in games for the Wii.
@rpm297 That example would be a little too over the top and nobody would play it.
A better example would be to make all health quantities and average damage known to allow you to calculate how many hits it will take to kill him as well as how many hits it will take for him to kill you, because then it is to your advantage to know, but far from necessary.
i like that too! Many millions of paradigms could exist to substantiate learning. Video games just for learning that are actually EXCITING and turn folks on seems just awesome to me.
I played a lot of Final Fantasy XI in my lifetime, where almost every name in the entire game is some kind of reference to something else, be it a piece of armor, a weapon, a monster, or an NPC. And they always connect things so well.
If you don't believe me, just go to the FFXIclopedia and search pretty much any random page.
...I wouldn't go looking for them now though. (look for "Adventures", on the net)They changed their business policy into exactly the opposite: "Assume all kids are gullible and stupid". Perhaps this was because classrooms and libraries had trouble seperating out the mini-games that related to the topic at hand and couldn't get Tommy to stop playing the space shooter when he already knows all the planets.. but these games worked best when I was home-schooled and had to get my knowledge that way.
Educational games were actually some of the funnest (most fun?) games I've ever played, and I'd love to get them back. I'm going to pretty much advertise the Jumpstart Series. The series succeeded because they understood children as "adults in training" or basically, assumed that kids weren't stupid. Their difficulty levels ranged from silly easy to the toughest nuts to crack at that grade level, moving towards the next. They were well-designed games and great education tools rolled into one...
I just thought.. the Fallout series. I've never been to the continental US and yet I know where some places are in reference to others. Where is the Pentagon in relation to the Washington Monument? or Lincoln's Memorial? or the Jefferson Memorial?
Where is the Hoover Dam in relation to Las Vegas, or Goodsprings, or Boulder City. Granted there are no direct links to a wiki page, but I just alt-tab to browser anyway.
Still, Fallout does shrink the real world to a tenth of what it really is.
I know you mentioned Halo as a game that didn't do anything. However Halo is solely responsible for introducing me to magnetically contained plasma, accelerating projectiles without an explosive charge, and traveling faster than the speed of light without actually going faster than light.
Great video! Love it! I think Assassins Creed is a great example....specially with the "database" option...I have actually learn a lot of amazing things about Italy and the renaissance
Need For Speed= taught me shit about cars. So many parts I've never even heard of...
civiccruiser117 6 hours ago
Your married?!?!?!
haloboy217 3 days ago
I looked up Sephiroth, about halfway through the first sentence I saw 'kabala' and had to close the window. I'm sorry, I have failed v.v
rhemorigher 3 days ago in playlist Extra Creditz
I was a huge Dynasty Warriors fan... And given the choice of presenting what we are interested in... I did a presentation on the Han Dynasty in school.
I am not even kidding right now.
It was fun to see how much was real in the game and what had to be altered to still be entertaining.
Got an A+ :)
Quuob 4 days ago
Ecco the Dolphin got me interested in theories about cetacean intelligence when I was a tiny thing. These days ocean news makes up a pretty big chunk of my life.
SparkyLurkdragon 5 days ago
After Playing hours of Skyrim and Oblivion, I took the time to learn about tamriel and its history. Sigh... I'm sure that knowledge will be relevant in the future.
Boyshinyable 1 week ago
Wow, you're right. I actually learned more about the history behind Count Dracula and even read the Bram Stoker novel all because I played Castlevania.
EpsilonX95 1 week ago
awesomeness, this is one of my goals in almost all the work I do. thank you for clarifying the benefits of it and how it helps the media. thank you.
GrandMasterTemphis 2 weeks ago
SpaceChem anyone?
manicka111 2 weeks ago
I was reading up on the old west after a week of playing Red Dead Redemption, sometime last year.
PikachuColoredPichu1 4 weeks ago
James, cover the exits.
PikachuColoredPichu1 4 weeks ago 2
My favourite learning game is portal
lotro4ever4000 1 month ago 4
well I guess I have to look up what that sephirot is
0Letten0 1 month ago
how to get people educated: national treasure the game
JollyManProductions 1 month ago
if we were thinking about leaving, we'd never clicked the video :)
JollyManProductions 1 month ago
"This might have happened to you"
Yup. Dynasty Warriors and Age of Empires. ^^
RWBn00b 1 month ago
I think schools should relize what potensial games has for learning. I've learned alot from games. I learned english from games, ALOT about history and politics from the Civlopedia, much about WW2 from Call of Duty and so on. If game producers could make games where you could learn while still being entertaining, it would be very effective for learning. I imagine in the future, the schools will use games as a teching medium.
Farvai0 1 month ago
wen I play i try to not remember anything coz I know for sure its not real hahaha
paulthecoolest 1 month ago
Floyd sounds so young in the video it never occured to me that he was married(No offence). Ya this video just gave me learning HAHAHA.
AnimeKnowAll 1 month ago
@AnimeKnowAll His voice is modified for the videos; he doesn't actually sound like this. :P
PrinceofPtown21 1 month ago
He's right you know. I know the history of the Three Kingdoms War thanks to Dynasy Warriors.
Gruuon 1 month ago
@Gruuon Dynasty*
Gruuon 1 month ago
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Gruuon 1 month ago
OH MY GOD MATH BLASTER!
BewareIamTheDon 1 month ago in playlist T151 Playlist: Serious Games
i love the codex from Mass Effect, even tho its a bunch of made up stuff. i find salarian biology facenating and biology class the bane of my existance
helloimtom100 1 month ago
I found out about the Spartans after I played GOW1 and found out they were a real ancient city and I did research on them. I was like 11 or 12 and I hated history I totally agree with this video. I love your videos Daniel. (^_^)
Brollyssweetface 2 months ago
I found out about the Spartans after I played GOW1 and found out they were a real ancient city I was like 11 or 12 and I hated history I totally agree with this video. I love your videos Daniel. (^_^)
Brollyssweetface 2 months ago 2
Mossenuna?
StuffedAnimalPlanet 2 months ago
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If you are thinking of having an abortion this is a must see.
I watched this movie called 180 movie it was very good if you are pro-life or pro-choice, watch this award winning documentary and see where you stand at the end. At least watch the trailer and see if you are interested.
Look up 180 movie on youtube or 180movie.com
standingontruth1 2 months ago in playlist Comedy - Stand up/talk shows
Oh, I see it's spelled Sephirot.
aarforce13 2 months ago
Sephiroth (Final Fantasy Character) comes before Sephiroth (religious) on Google results.
aarforce13 2 months ago
@kingdomkeysorariku I perfectly agree, I had a history test on renaissance italy a week after I went on an assassins creed 2 marathon and scored a 98, also I read books from my dads library about the crusades after ac1, and after I get revelations I might convince my family to take a trip to turkey...
TheJimiJJ 2 months ago
this reminds me of how after assasins creed one of my friends dedicated herself to learning about the period and assasins mythology in Coastal southern europe.
kingdomkeysorariku 2 months ago
japan has been doing this for a long time but instead of bringing educations to game, we went for the opposite of games into education. if you are wondering if that worked, just recall the asian stereotype of we being smart lol. frankly, as a japanese, we've never view ourselves smart but just normal and viewed rest as dumb :)
tkoizumi 2 months ago
Assassin's Creed 2/Brotherhood/Revelations are prime examples I think :D
there is a database and it is actually following a historical timeline so you can't /not/ learn something
And I personally went berserk over the Renaissance after AC2
IpiRayan 2 months ago
The problem is we are equating "education" with "academic". Academic is just a system of education, that doesn't mean you can't educate without it. Any "fun" game are educational one way or another, as human being our most important tool of learning is act of instinct, information resource such as book are helpful but not a replacement for instinct. The reason why "educational" game fail is they meant to be "academic", our human nature won't fit in an ivory tower where everything is Platonic.
MNanme1z4xs 2 months ago
maybe this comments on my state of mind but the image of him "diving head first" into the topic annoyed me because the picture was not head first - anyone else experience this?
morderwarg 3 months ago in playlist T151 Playlist: Serious Games
Ill give an example, i play/played Spore!
Now thats a fun game that made me interested in space and the unknown, which expanded into a love for anything sci-fi etc....
Now at 2:12 is the whole reason why i fail at school...it's just not fun -____-
Lumpyrox1412 3 months ago in playlist More videos from kirithem
It's for this reason why I loved playing Age of Empires III and the Total War Series, cause they at least have some special spot for historical information that could eat up a significant chunk of time when I was "playing" the game
Never learned about Samnites before RTW
AquaPhoenix2006 3 months ago
Even without tangential learning (which, as this video shows, most fun games already have, to varying degrees), video/computer games DO expand your horizons and enrich your life!
They give us stories that enrich our fantasy, empathy (by letting us put ourselves in the shoes of others) and such.
They increase our spatial and coordination skills, multi-tasking, problem solving, perseverance, pattern recognition, estimating, resources management, memory, quick thinking and reasoning...
ZarlanTheGreen 3 months ago
Oh my god, that wikipedia idea is fucking genius. :O
Just think about how popular sites like Wikipedia and TvTropes are! People suck this stuff up!
Gaawachan 3 months ago in playlist More videos from kirithem 3
Amen brother!
This is part of what I love about RPGs and certain game series (like Shin Megami Tensei). I tend to find games to be good blackboards for being mirrors of life (blame it on the English / Theater lit influence). I feel that exploring themes about what it means "to live," especially using the dark night of the soul trope, allows us to learn about aspects of ourselves that we may not have become aware of without the influence. That is "good literature."
psychmyst 3 months ago
WE CANT TALK ABOUT SEX EVERY TIME!!
housemaster3000 4 months ago 3
One word: Portal.
rvenom300 4 months ago 2
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im not lying.......i learned stuff from runescape
emv321 4 months ago
im not lying.......i learned stuff from runescape
emv321 4 months ago
it's been a year since I first lessoned to this and this is my first time I lessoned to extra credits. you guy change my life! thank you :)
jonnymovieboy 4 months ago in playlist Proto Extra Credits
hey i learnt free running and italian because of assassins creed 2 plus im also going to visit rome soon
TheDingodongo 4 months ago
@TheDingodongo No merda!
MonsieurJackAss 4 months ago
I can name at least 10 cities from every european country since Civ III... also, pokemon on gbc taught me english (all of it, I'm a french speaker).
Selestrielle 4 months ago
god of war is a perfect example
NitroPathfinder 4 months ago in playlist More videos from kirithem
This Kool-Aid is delicious! Chug it!
Venonous 4 months ago
Dues Ex comes to mind for tangential learning... As an example, I actually read 'The Diamond Age', just to get the 'skull gun' reference that Gunter was talking about. In general, the whole game referenced so many ideas: philosophy, political science, engineering, transhumanism, one world government, modern conspiracy theories, etc... not to mention cosmopolitan experience of visiting different cities / cultures of different countries (hong kong, paris, ny, etc).
Overall, great video!
bartaaa404 5 months ago in playlist Proto Extra Credits
As i mentioned in an email i sent to extra credits that was directed to Daniel, i have noticed you must be some form of fan of the samurai (or more specificly sengoku era). This not only surprises, but interests me. Considering i have many ideas i have been polishing for games.
Mamoru0Hasukage 5 months ago
I learned arithmetic from Diablo II.
MrIcicle 5 months ago
Borderlands is good for math skills: "This shotgun does 126 x 12dmg and has +40% reload speed! This shotgun has +150% critical and x4 Fire elemental! WHAT DO!?"
Ejak2021 5 months ago 21
Wow. In addition to Googling Masamune and Sephiroth, I also learned this was going on without me even realising it. For example, I can name 5 extrusive rocks and their melting points, thanks to Dwarf Fortress and the fact that tknowing thse things helped in the game (different layered rocks are found in different areas, and they may or may not melt when exposed to magma).
Point is, I feel it helps if the knowledge of these facts actually affects gameplay or assists you in some way.
LiberatorXIII 5 months ago
Nicely done as always :) keep up the good work it is inspirational to those of us following in your video blogging footsteps.
quinnthalas 5 months ago
2:45.. Is that Simon from the Yogscast?!
cerebralassassin01 5 months ago
I played the dynasty warriors 6 game (the english one) and that got me interested in the 3 kingdom era of chinese history I basically read up on hours of text, wiki pages and some ROTK transcripts. it works :D
TcpfMs 5 months ago
THE POINT
Masterwork Bludgeon
+1 INT
TechUnadept 5 months ago
Agrees with liberalcounterpart
aReallyTallKid 5 months ago
Extra Credits ripped almost $100000 from idiot fanbase. Source can be found here rockethub. com/projects/2165-extra-credits .
amIlivinginabox 6 months ago
@amIlivinginabox What do you mean "ripped off"? We donated money to save Allison's arm, which lead to her making a full recovery, and now getting an offer to work on the next Darksiders game!
And it's not like it's a secret they got 100.000 from it! They announced it in their own video O.O
Furthermore, they are not putting the money into their own pocket, but rather setting up an indie-game company/helper/thingy for their fans. Are you dumb, bro? Because I think you're dumb, bro.
Kevster921 5 months ago
@Kevster921 Come on, they E-BEGGING their fans. "they are not putting the money into their own pocket" how do you f**king know that? I tell you have no idea where the money went. But they sure will have vacation. And I have alibi.
amIlivinginabox 5 months ago
@amIlivinginabox Yeah, err, no. They said "if you want to donate, donate". Allison had an injured arm, which meant 20.000 in medical bills. After they reached 20.000, people still kept donating, despite knowing that they already had enough. Then they had a poll for people to decide what the remaining money would go to. It ended up going to a NON-PROFIT indie publishing company, and if you look in the comments section on the very site you linked, every donator seems pleased with the decision.
Kevster921 5 months ago
@amIlivinginabox As far as not knowing where the money is, that's bullshit. We know who James is, and we know where he works. We know who Dan is, we know where he works. We know who Allison is, and we know where she (might) work. We know the full details of who they are. Not only would they be the WORST scammers in the world, they would also get hunted down (and fired from their companies) for a puny 80.000? >.>
Btw, why are you so suspicious of EC? What did they do to deserve that treatment?
Kevster921 5 months ago
@Kevster921 "And it's not like it's a secret they got 100.000 from it!" Where did I say it was a secret? Why not did she take a loan instead?
amIlivinginabox 5 months ago
@amIlivinginabox ....... Because a loan is something you have to pay back, and it's costly and extremely dumb to take one out if you can avoid it. Or maybe she didn't qualify for one. Or maybe the bank was stalling. Or maybe she already had a loan so she couldn't take another one.
To be honest, it's none of my business. They needed money for her arm, or else she would not be able to draw anymore. The community came together in an amazing effort to help, and you're pissing all over that atm.
Kevster921 5 months ago
Yeah. Age of Mythology was amazing at this...
LiberalCounterpart 6 months ago
@elite01171 I was going to say da same thing...... Since basically, it just took everything that happened at that time n shuve it into that game n add altar or ezio in it so you can experience that timeline lawl
amy0w0 6 months ago
assassin's creed also has a good influince on history too
elite01171 6 months ago
Fallout 3 made me find an era of music that is lost, and I love it.
BackUpClover 6 months ago
lol i actually look up what the sephirot was haha
Ub3rSk1llz 6 months ago 44
The funny thing is, I actually was gonna look up the Sephiroth after this.
MidnaKoopa 6 months ago
I really love the idea of a database in video games!! Not only is it educational, but also it really does help give you an idea of what the atmosphere should be like in the game you are playing! Granted this is coming from a girl who fangirled like crazy when she discovered the database in AC so I might be a little biased >.>
sadisticXvampyre 6 months ago
Just because you can read doesn't mean your stupid. Text is like an encryption and peoples minds process this information in different ways. Did you know people who are dyslexic in english may be able to read symbolistic languages like chinese perfectly well? the same goes for dyslexic chinese children reading english. Its because it requires a different part of your brain to process the information. Eg Visualisation and Symbols vs decoding Encrypted letters
micheals1992 6 months ago
Yeah I totally understand what you mean. Also world of warcraft can help you with things like maths (Eg something like working out healing spells overall heals). I found mass effect very interesting and spent hours reading facts on there. I also think things like Windows Live Messenger can help significantly with spelling. If your like me and you hate getting spellings wrong while talking to people. In school I was really bad at spelling and reading, now thanks to the internet i'm brillient.
micheals1992 6 months ago
Non Educational TV and Games I learn from the most.
God Of War gave me a summery of who what and why greek mythology people are.
Also the old hercules disney cartoon gave me a upbeat version of these chacters which gave my little mind neat ideas that gave me learning blocks and being interested.
keggie09 7 months ago
What a load of horseshit.
Does anyone ever tell you that fiction novels don't enrich your life because by the end of it, you haven't achieved anything?
What about movies? Music? Going on holiday?
What about collection hobbies? Model building? MOUNTAIN CLIMBING?
How do ANY of these really educate you in any meaningful way? And yet nobody is saying they should be more educational.
Seriously, piss off with this pretentious bullshit. Don't insult gamers with this crap.
Galkatokk 7 months ago
@Galkatokk Without the arts we pretty much end up being savages
Go watch any Shakespearean play,read a book,do some actual fucking mountain climbing
Till then gtfo
kea919306 7 months ago
@kea919306 Hah.
I have, kid.
Galkatokk 7 months ago
@Galkatokk Yeah, don't insult gamers with anything like LEARNING. This is sarcasm, by the way. Something else for you to learn.
crowfaceltd 6 months ago
@crowfaceltd I know what sarcasm is, but thanks.
The suggestion that gaming is not 'rich' enough a pass time is patronising. So yes, it is insulting.
I'm glad to help those who have difficulty understanding.
Galkatokk 6 months ago
@Galkatokk seems like someone is using my account lol, i have no idea what this video is
crowfaceltd 6 months ago
But I actually found games like Math Blaster and Gizmos and Gadgets fun. They managed to teach me while still being entertaining
Aleolex 7 months ago
I know it doesn't have to be in WW2 games, but damn I want some developer to actually make at least one more WW2 game (there's all of 6 years of conflict to draw from but most WW2 games just re-do D-Day and the Allied invasion of Normandy). However it's a good point that games need to take hold of tangential learning opportunities since it would make the game itself far more interesting. Films and TV shows have really taken advantage of it and it's done wonders for them.
ThatDuderino 7 months ago
@ThatDuderino Well the last Brothers in Arms game could be that.The Battle of the Bulge even though it won't be out for some years.
StMarciano 7 months ago
A really modern example of this I found is actually Catherine; there are some really great arrangements of classical music in the soundtrack. (Yay, Shoji Meguro!) I've spent some time listening to the original versions of the featured songs and all sorts of other classical music, and it's actually made me really interested in learning more about it! Gasp!
ropesnake 7 months ago
Thumbs up if you looked up the Sephiroth after watching this!
CrAzYcHiCa428 7 months ago
@CrAzYcHiCa428 I would but I had no idea how to spell it. Thank you!!
CodeMonkeyGurl 7 months ago
I learned more english from games then school
GamingCrow 7 months ago
Age of Empires. That game can teach you pretty much everything you learn in your history classes.
homeyG75 7 months ago 45
@homeyG75 Let's not forget Age of Mythology. That totally made me curious about the various myths and legends of various civilizations.
And the "Total War" series, whilst not entirely accurate, has taught me tons about the culture and various factiosn back then. Hell, I had never even HEARD of the "Holy Roman Empire" until Medieval Total War.
Kevster921 5 months ago
@homeyG75 is there any examples of this in games for younger years (5-15)?
EnordAreven 4 months ago
@EnordAreven I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but I played Age of Empires when I was in about 2nd grade. (I'm in 9th grade now)
The game got me interested in history.
I'm not sure about any games for 5-15. Age of Empires is supposed to be 13 and older (Rated T)
homeyG75 4 months ago
the internets have given me hope for humanity =)
great job in exceeding expectations in under 6hours XD
Pangjunmin 7 months ago
I don't know the first thing about gaming but found this fascinating, thanks for this.
MasakaliMataakali 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I liked this a lot :)
ShyGirLovesTecH 7 months ago
I added my comment as a note on the video well atleast now I can edit it. some editing should still be possible even if its just for a phew minutes but their should then still be a way to get a moderator to reopen the edit function.
Spieldamelenium 7 months ago in playlist Games
mmm empire total war
dueling101 7 months ago
I learned how to read by playing pokemon blue with my mom. :)
tripleb94 7 months ago
god of war, uncharted, but i lookied into the entire history of fallout. like 2 days of learning O.O
ilovepancakeswithjam 7 months ago
Age of mythology got me intrested I'n Greek mythology now I'm reading homer I'n the iliad
Troyjak1997 7 months ago
Pokemon, sad as it is, helped me learn to read. I didn't mind not reading until I picked up the game and realized I had to learn, so I played for hours on end so I would understand things. :P
Rackou87 7 months ago
@Rackou87 Yeah pokemon yellow red blue ext ect got me to read more lol
CONKER17 7 months ago
You know, it is ironic, I had never really thought about tangential learning before this. I mean I knew what it was but had never studied it. After this I looked it up and studied it further.
RayneyNight 7 months ago
There is some tangential learning in Halo's campaign aspects. Cortana, for example, is named after a ceremonial blade in the Crown Jewels in England--The Sword of Mercy, or the "Curtana" Sword. It's one of the very few remaining pieces of the original Crown Jewels that survived the purge of Oliver Cromwell when he sought to destroy all symbols of the monarchy in the 17th Century. There's a whole story behind the sword about a king learning to rule with mercy and not vengeance. Good stuff.
TheSpecktre 7 months ago
This video is awesome :)
darksheep92 8 months ago
hah... i was so thinking about leaving xD
TylerJaden24 8 months ago
Age of empires basically made me learn more about history than all my years of school.
MrPizzapoika 8 months ago
It's cool because after watching Soul Eater I found out what a tsubaki is.
terriblefate21 8 months ago
"Tan-genital" learning, get it? Yeah, yeah? No? Ok, I'll leave now...
NeverContactMe 8 months ago
Amen!!!
splendidcakes 8 months ago
I don't know about anyone else, but I found this extremely interesting. I wish college lectures were like this
BlackLabsproductions 8 months ago
...*goes check what a sephiroth is*
Seikufu 8 months ago
Are you FUCKING MARRIED!?
BloodBathFenix 8 months ago in playlist ggame
Oooo Thumbs up for Toe Jam and Earl track at the end
tyniehawk 8 months ago
Whats kinda sad is that they used traditional education methods to prove their point :P
mpjama2 9 months ago
@mpjama2 In a way it is Tangential learning. The fact that he uses a cartoon character and is a little witty when talking about games 'a subject we are interested in', makes these videos more interesting.
varnlestoff 8 months ago
the "stating the obvious" video :/
dig6dog 9 months ago
Awesome! i like it a lot, and i agree that games have so much potential!
AngelMichu 9 months ago
but learning directly from the games aint the only learning way for instant i have some friends wich like h,o,n and aperantly they borrow the names for their caracters from mythology and based some atributes from it so one day in school my teacher were talking about mythology and about these specific names and that made it easy to learn about mythology for my friends
HOTTESTHERE 9 months ago
The Total War games are full of historical information; how much did you really know about the Carthaginians before RTW, history buffs aside?
ScionAscendant 9 months ago
persona is a good game for tangental learning
320759 9 months ago
God of war is the most obvious example
Yaguacho 9 months ago
This is so true.
I remembered when I was hooked on psychonauts I was always reading books and websites of psychic powers.
learned alot from it.
Anthony3PO 9 months ago
Do you work in the gaming industry?
Because you totally should!
ChristosXcore 9 months ago
I really like this kind of presentation, funny, informative, and awesome... i wouldn't mind listening to stuff like this
Daethlisangel 9 months ago
Mario made me look up plumbing
HBCult 9 months ago
I loved math blaster as a kid. And where in the world is Carmen San Diego. Are these games still available for the new generation of kids as computer learning games?
enlargemedia 9 months ago
Assassins creed made me look up the crusades and the italian renassaince, while God of War sparked my interest into greek mythology.
thebigdickvgt 9 months ago
Well said my friend.
kufusonic 9 months ago
Thanks to games I've learned so much I would have never even thought about for instance after watching X's playthrough of half life 2 I looked up the lambda mark after playing assassins creed I became.very interested in leonardo da vinci and his war machines and thanks to medal of honor and call of duty I know what operations market garden and overload are and that's just the beginning.
Evman95 10 months ago
WOW dude..u must've played lots of games.. :P
5AMM0608 10 months ago
hmm i realy love your shows and all.. but why use this concept again for a new video on the escapist ?
IlcoronWOW 10 months ago
Lol, this reminds me of how Batman sparked my interest in the human psyche. ^^
ashi8848 10 months ago
Muncher games were pretty badass...
v13r3r 10 months ago
Playing "Rome Total War" has made me a huge fan of Roman and Millitary history.
VisigothViking 10 months ago
were did you get the monotony game board box
legofanguyvid 10 months ago
90 % of my learning of english is causes by Video games
TheDuck1234 10 months ago
This was amazing to me, simply because I had a perfect example in my head (though most people wouldn't agree with it.) The japanese RPG "Eternal Sonata" is all about Frederic Chopin, and while sometimes it beats you over the head with some of his history, the whole game is essentially not focused on him. It introduces the man, but doesn't go too in depth about him, leaving the player to learn more... And I did. I wrote a history thesis on him after playing that game.
RyukoAkari 10 months ago
It's so great to hear someone say something positive about the Dynasty Warriors series.
CrashnSpyro4Evar 10 months ago
Ultima 4 : Quest of the Avatar
Educational, still badass.
jancobblepot 10 months ago
OMG, you rehashed this! Tangient Learning works cuz I found you!
Mikodite 10 months ago
Great Video. Thank You. I will probably refer my audience to this video in my paper. Great job guys.
MrMajLow 10 months ago
What about language?
I live in Serbia, and I learned 30% of my English by playing games like Icewind Dale and similar dialogue-rich games... Not to mention movies and music, they helped me sharpen my accent so I now know many accents. :D
nihilusJ90 10 months ago
there are always fucktards that will use the thumbs down icon just for the fun of it, i really hope them 26 people had a good laugh and soon after dropped dead from sheer stupidity ! btw awsome series, that is all !
Sidorovich47 10 months ago
Games like Professor Layton proves there is hope for edutainment games. still 1 of my favourite game series ever, and it made me addicted to puzzles that require critical thinking. The same with Phoenix Wright and logical deduction. Also, there are games like LittleBig Planet that made me more interested in creating and allowed me to experience games from the creator's side of things. loved the video!
Permafry42 10 months ago
@Permafry42 Ah you named two of my favorite games! I agree with you on Phoenix Wright and I wish I could agree with you on Professor Layton, but my issue with Layton is that the solution to the overarching mystery in each game is totally ludicrous. I guessed the big twist in game 1 as a joke and the one in game 2 I found completely unbelievable. As a game based in puzzle and mystery, I expect a plausible answer for all the in-game crazy stuff!
Android2137 10 months ago
@Android2137
alright i respect your opinion. still, imo professor layton was always more about the puzzles than the story. though how you managed to guess that *spoiler alert to those who haven't played professor layton yet* most of the villagers are robots is beyond me...
Permafry42 10 months ago
@Permafry42 When the guy who was supposedly kidnapped suddenly came back, I was going, ":B Maybe he's a robot clone! Or maybe he was a robot all along! Hey! Maybe the entire town is robots! Hahahah!" I felt cheated when I turned out to be right. It was so cheap.
Android2137 10 months ago
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marvelousmelmo 10 months ago
Simulation games are very educational also. The understanding of physics gets better for the individuals.
Arnechk 10 months ago
this has infinite potential. Imagine a MMORPG like WOW remade into something educational and interactive.
Imagine learning algebra by having to "solve for x" to kill a monster for gold and experience. .
So I ask WHY NOT?
Why couldn't we do this? After all the EVERY VIDEO GAME in existence. has math and science built into it as a basic foundation. Language could be taught in a game through immersion. Phys ed is already in games for the Wii.
The only thing I see missing is human contact.
rpm297 11 months ago
@rpm297 That example would be a little too over the top and nobody would play it.
A better example would be to make all health quantities and average damage known to allow you to calculate how many hits it will take to kill him as well as how many hits it will take for him to kill you, because then it is to your advantage to know, but far from necessary.
MrGoBoom 11 months ago
@MrGoBoom
i like that too! Many millions of paradigms could exist to substantiate learning. Video games just for learning that are actually EXCITING and turn folks on seems just awesome to me.
rpm297 11 months ago
The intire Assassins creed saga is full of historycal facts (and fantasy)
ruuuucacena 11 months ago
I learn English+greek mythology by games
ruuuucacena 11 months ago 52
@ruuuucacena God of War fan I see.
TechUnadept 5 months ago
I played a lot of Final Fantasy XI in my lifetime, where almost every name in the entire game is some kind of reference to something else, be it a piece of armor, a weapon, a monster, or an NPC. And they always connect things so well.
If you don't believe me, just go to the FFXIclopedia and search pretty much any random page.
Stammer6 11 months ago
And that is why BioShock was such a brilliant game. Teaches you all about the politics underlying such conflicts as the Cold war.
lBarlk 11 months ago
try saying tangential drunk...you cant...i cant...its crazy!
coffeetablesex 11 months ago
@coffeetablesex spose im not semi retarded, i can
nelsdogmadjesus 11 months ago
It reminds me of AC brotherhood
meowmix360 11 months ago
Persona!
I always loved reading about the little blurbs about the mythical beasts and people in that game XD
Oathkeepera 11 months ago
I Looked up the chinese history of the Han dynasty and the story of the 3 kingdoms (not the novel) after playing dynasty warriors.
thanks to medal of honor i learned about guadal Canal and implemented that info into my history project.
Videogames can be a good medium to pass on information.
yoekix 11 months ago
Playing fallout really made me want to know more about the fifties and the conflicts between us and Russia and china
72metallicafan 11 months ago
u just blew my mind
akadensetsu 11 months ago
...I wouldn't go looking for them now though. (look for "Adventures", on the net)They changed their business policy into exactly the opposite: "Assume all kids are gullible and stupid". Perhaps this was because classrooms and libraries had trouble seperating out the mini-games that related to the topic at hand and couldn't get Tommy to stop playing the space shooter when he already knows all the planets.. but these games worked best when I was home-schooled and had to get my knowledge that way.
PrototypeClex 11 months ago
Educational games were actually some of the funnest (most fun?) games I've ever played, and I'd love to get them back. I'm going to pretty much advertise the Jumpstart Series. The series succeeded because they understood children as "adults in training" or basically, assumed that kids weren't stupid. Their difficulty levels ranged from silly easy to the toughest nuts to crack at that grade level, moving towards the next. They were well-designed games and great education tools rolled into one...
PrototypeClex 11 months ago
THIS IS SO TRUE, i learnt roman and wwII history by playing Rome TW and medal of honor!
Hypastpist 11 months ago
I just thought.. the Fallout series. I've never been to the continental US and yet I know where some places are in reference to others. Where is the Pentagon in relation to the Washington Monument? or Lincoln's Memorial? or the Jefferson Memorial?
Where is the Hoover Dam in relation to Las Vegas, or Goodsprings, or Boulder City. Granted there are no direct links to a wiki page, but I just alt-tab to browser anyway.
Still, Fallout does shrink the real world to a tenth of what it really is.
392redienhcs 11 months ago
I know you mentioned Halo as a game that didn't do anything. However Halo is solely responsible for introducing me to magnetically contained plasma, accelerating projectiles without an explosive charge, and traveling faster than the speed of light without actually going faster than light.
SmallTimeHalo 1 year ago
6:41 Lol, I had already paused and googled Sephiroth.
ubbecykelkedja 1 year ago
Great video! Love it! I think Assassins Creed is a great example....specially with the "database" option...I have actually learn a lot of amazing things about Italy and the renaissance
jose2090 1 year ago 9
@jose2090 Yeah, never knew anything about the place before. Now I know lots.
Shadowbangg 6 months ago