Unfortunately, although IRV solves the problem of a minor candidate spoiling a competitive 2 party race, it still runs into spoilers with 3 or more close candidates. Google something like "IRV spoiler effect" to see an example.
Plurality is a poor voting system. Unfortunately, IRV is one of the only systems that is WORSE than plurality. It is a logistical mess because ALL ballots have to be in the same location to be counted, ballots cannot be summed together (like most other voting methods), and it counts ballots unequally (just the first choice on some, second on others, third on others ...). There are other alternative voting methods much better than IRV.
@user7145 Although IRV takes more work, it is still takes far less work to count your ballot than the work you put in to walk/drive to your polling booth. If you want to hate on it, try the fact that sometimes you can reverse the preference order on each ballot and still get the same winner, or the fact that ranking a candidate lower may cause him to win. By comparison, the spoiler effect is a minor issue.
@user7145 I live in Australia where we use this system the ballots are never removed from the polling station, all that happens is the votes are counted in the usual way and then the Acting Returning Officer rings the Electoral office to say the results of the first count from that particular booth, then the preferences are distributed and then the boss as it where makes a phone call the the Electoral Office again to give the final results from the booth. The votes never leave the location.
What Fair vote needs to do is develop a Preferential ballot online opinion poll and make the code open source and encourage other online poll resources to adopt it as an option to their online polls services
a preferential ballot is the same as IRV...though online elections aren't the way to go because they leave no paper trail...no hard copy of your vote that u have in case of error...and they aren't saved on the computer (though they should be) because our voting machines are tallied by (I kid you not) 3rd party businesses, not a government agency
The African-American guy in this video is white in the original video on instantrunoff . com
stuyboi888 3 months ago
Unfortunately, although IRV solves the problem of a minor candidate spoiling a competitive 2 party race, it still runs into spoilers with 3 or more close candidates. Google something like "IRV spoiler effect" to see an example.
DrProfessorPhD 2 years ago
WIth instant run off voting in Florida in 2000, we never would have had President Bush.
bigfilmhat 2 years ago 2
why is there a change in nationality of candidate b?
donkeyfly69 3 years ago
Unless being black suddenly revoked his citizenship, his nationality didn't change.
Perhaps you meant his ethnicity?
LinkKB 2 years ago
woops, yeah ethnicity
donkeyfly69 2 years ago
Plurality is a poor voting system. Unfortunately, IRV is one of the only systems that is WORSE than plurality. It is a logistical mess because ALL ballots have to be in the same location to be counted, ballots cannot be summed together (like most other voting methods), and it counts ballots unequally (just the first choice on some, second on others, third on others ...). There are other alternative voting methods much better than IRV.
user7145 3 years ago
@user7145 Although IRV takes more work, it is still takes far less work to count your ballot than the work you put in to walk/drive to your polling booth. If you want to hate on it, try the fact that sometimes you can reverse the preference order on each ballot and still get the same winner, or the fact that ranking a candidate lower may cause him to win. By comparison, the spoiler effect is a minor issue.
BaddeJimme 1 year ago
@user7145 I live in Australia where we use this system the ballots are never removed from the polling station, all that happens is the votes are counted in the usual way and then the Acting Returning Officer rings the Electoral office to say the results of the first count from that particular booth, then the preferences are distributed and then the boss as it where makes a phone call the the Electoral Office again to give the final results from the booth. The votes never leave the location.
irishgodfatherchris 3 months ago
What Fair vote needs to do is develop a Preferential ballot online opinion poll and make the code open source and encourage other online poll resources to adopt it as an option to their online polls services
Melbcity 3 years ago
a preferential ballot is the same as IRV...though online elections aren't the way to go because they leave no paper trail...no hard copy of your vote that u have in case of error...and they aren't saved on the computer (though they should be) because our voting machines are tallied by (I kid you not) 3rd party businesses, not a government agency
intrewetrust1987 3 years ago
sounds good to me
SupportTheWar 3 years ago