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  • I have a feeling that if the Beast were a human, he wouldn't be called abusive. Gaston is very sexist and seems like a potential abuser; in fact, he almost kissed Belle against her will. But I guess that's all right because he's handsome, right?

    Furthermore, Belle never tried changing the Beast. He changed himself, and if he had stayed the same, Belle would have rejected him just like she rejected Gaston.

  • Gaston's closer to a real abuser because he's extremely controlling, goes to extreme lenths to get belle to marry him because he sees her as nothing more than a trophy. She's smart enough to see right through his bullshit but everyone else in town thinks he's awesome. And in real life alot of abuse victims aren't believed because the abuser's "such a nice guy".

  • This isn't really an exampe of an abusive relationship. First of all, they're not in a relationship till almost the end of the movie, she stays to save her father. When the beast screams and throws shit around she DOES get the hell out and only returns because she doesn't want to leave the beast to die in the woods after the wolves attacked. Towards the end of the movie when Maurice needs help, the beast gives up what he wants by saying she should go help her father.

  • Good to know that reading makes me strong and powerful! (I'm being sarcastic)

  • What a load!

  • This bothers me, people don't seem to realize that Belle never tried to change the beast, not once, she only began to speak and become kind to him after he decided to change himself. She was in no way trying to change him.

    I mean look she ran away, and she only came back so she could tend to his wounds after he saved her. Even as a little girl I understood this.

  • @GabsterSM

    You got it! Which points to the fact that this is a normal relationship, and that the women did not invite the "beast" into her heart until he had make efforts to transcend his learned, beastly behavior.

    Likewise, she does not confront him by acting like a beast her self, or by competing with him as many third wave feminists do (unlike 19th century feminists), but rather she tried to help him via her feminine virtues and strengths! Finally someone get the irony of this video!

  • SEROUSLY?! You want the BEAST TO BE NICE! He was a mean person b4 the beast... the beast form just made it worse. Do you really expect him to be nice to everyone. Depression affects people differently. What Disney is teaching kids is that anger always has a root. And if you can find that root you can break that from someone. Belle found the man under the anger and touched him. I dont even know why psychologist exist... Everyone just needs a friend that li

  • K this is so gay!!! I grew up in the 90s watching Disney and beauty and the beast was and always will be my favourite one. I grew up watching BatB and I turned out 100% fine and so have my other friends who've watched it. I think people are overlooking the basic theme of this movie, jeez people are so dumb these days especially these gay ass parents

  • @nddlj There is nothing homosexual about this video.

  • Wow what a stupid cunt. I really really hate people like that with a passion.

  • Man feminists read everything as anti-women. If a study finds that little boys want to be lawyers and little girls want to be pop stars, feminists will conclude that society gears men for success but women for foolish fantasies = sexism. But when a study finds that little boys want to be rock stars and little girls want to be lawyers, they conclude that boys are encouraged to dream big while girls are stunted = sexism.

    It's all sexist if you ask a feminist.

  • Horrificly abusive?!

    He's a BEAST, LMAO!!!

    Some psychologist, you should be fired.

  • I've seen all of the Disney classics and although their argument may be valid their proof is pathetic. They say that it is a psedo fenimism but in fact the idea that she is well cultured, feminism, and strong willed is what makes her a sophisticated women in that society. The argument that the Beast is abusive to Belle is poor too because the theme of this movie is that the Beast, who's seen as the outcast, can be made to love again. It also teaches us to not discriminate and outcast outsiders.

  • This is so stupid. That woman must be exhausted living her life reading bullshit sub context meanings into everything.

  • Did you even watch this video? The Beast is a totally abusive motherfucker.

  • @goldenrhinogrey

    On the other hand, Beast was not a bad guy, he was made ugly by the society around him, he was a victim of circumstance (not that all abusive people are, but in his case he was), yet the women who critique this film fail to realize this and choose rather to approach the whole situation with a un-understanding, un-loving, modern communist breed Femi-nazi perspective.

    Poor guy, shunned, misunderstood, and afraid.

  • @XDel It doesn't matter how shunned, misunderstood, and afraid the Beast is. He is abusive and violent - teaching girls to tolerate that is highly dangerous. In SOME cases in which the psychological pain is clear (V-Tech's Cho Seung-Hui), then yeah, we need to try to understand the motivations and prevent bullying, ostracism, etc from happening in the future. However, that perspective does NOT excuse the shooting in the slightest. Also, "femi-nazi" is an incredibly ignorant term. Seriously?

  • @goldenrhinogrey

    And that my friend is a personal journey, not one of social force, social change, or group intervention. It is between man and The Creator of all, though a man can use friends to help him see the way, just as the femi-nazi needs friends and living examples to help show her the way to that personal journey and personal transformation.

  • @XDel This is the most incoherent piece of bullshit I've read this week.

  • @XDel I'm pretty sure he became ugly because he CHOSE to be unkind to a woman who needed help. It's not due to circumstances!

  • i would love to state my opinion, but i would be wasting my time. this is just plain stupid to argue about.

  • I thought the same thing when watching Beauty and the Beast. He locks her up, throws things to scare her, indimidates her with his surperior strength and voice and trys to starve her into submission. And then there's the "good periods" when the Beast is kind and gentle and Belle is ready to forget all that had happened before, hoping he will stay this way - a typical abusive relationship. And the worst thing is, in the film it works when in reality it NEVER does.

  • He is vulnerable like mean people are in real life. All his silverware pals told him to let her in.

    I don't see how her getting married is against feminism tho like she says

  • Ever seen a person change? Ever? Really?

  • @DoJaenin Isn't that how abusers work: Separate you from your family and friends, make you dependent on him or her, condition you by harming you when you're bad and "being kind" when you're good. It's not always physical.

  • His behavior is poor perhaps because he's called he's the "Beast?"

  • beauty and the beast is the worst.

  • Yes...it's Disney. The point is the media that children consumes sends them messages. It teaches them how to view and interact with others in the world. Anyone with even a basic knowledge of sociology and communication theory can tell you that.

  • erm ok thank you for that completetly pointless piece of information. I shall now go and apply that in the world. Thank you.

  • How exactly was it pointless? It was a response.

  • Does parenting not come into this? Localization?

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