Sig P250 Reset

[ms3bani]

you release the trigger too quickly to indicate where the trigger reset is. release it slowly next time.

[abby4882]

I just got this guna few days ago, it did take sum time to adjust to the trigger, its DIFFERNT compared to XDM but its neat. Trigger just feels really SPRINGY

[lilwildrabbit]

have had mine now almost 8 months and love it wouldnt trade for any sa/da like it the way it is and carry it daily

[45Supergun]

"I won't own a gun the ATF rejects!" Huh? Really? Screw the ATF. Read the damn report. More testers rated the Smith as unsatisfactory than the Sig.  The problem as I see it is you essentially have a 226 sitting atop a polymer frame. The bore axis is already high on that platform and taking weight off the bottom probably accounted for most of the user caused failures. Just my two cents on the matter.

[jkeatonb]

I have a P250 in .45 Full Size as my bedstand gun. Rigged with a light and laser it makes for a very nice package,

[wherediputmyself]

I'm pretty happy with my 250 in .45.

[AdmiralGST]

If SIG made this gun a SA/DA or even a striker fired gun it would have sold much better. $800 MSRP and it sells on the internet for $350 just to get rid of the guns.

[mwgowin]

@AdmiralGST Agreed, Sig US is quickly spinning down the drain.

[iMagUdspEllr]

@AdmiralGST That is because most people don't know much about guns and only buy guns that have the same action as military and police firearms. I am actually considering buying this guy. It is better than a striker because you can hit the same round more than once and it is better than a da/sa because it has a much lighter pull and it has the same trigger pull every time. I think that makes it a really good gun.

[AdmiralGST]

@iMagUdspEllr Striking a round twice is a bad idea, if it didn't go off then lose it and fire the next one. Theres a good chance that its a dead round. Most cops use Glocks and they have the same trigger pull. I actually prefer a SAO gun as both my XD and my Hi Power are Single action only. The trigger pull on this gun is too long in my experiance and I would prefer a shorter yet heavier DA pull like a Beretta 92D/96D. Most people that buy the most guns know what they are doing, no one really

[iMagUdspEllr]

@AdmiralGST I own a Glock 19, Springfield 1911 TRP, and the PX4 Storm SD. So I understand where you are coming from. I also believe that you should just get rid of the bad round. However, if you can't eject that round for some reason (other arm is injured, or occupied with another task) then it is a nice option. Plus you can still get rid of the bad round like any other gun. The beretta's seem to have the same length DA pull as this gun and this one is much lighter. Continued...

[iMagUdspEllr]

@AdmiralGST Most people that buy the most guns don't necessarily know what they are doing. Many of the things that the government asks for are unnecessary or overdone. Why did the gov go from a SAO revolver to a SAO semi-auto to a DA/SA semi-auto? Most people like the SAO the best... and I believe the only reason why DAO semi-autos weren't picked was because they never gained popularity. And the Sig was kicked out of the test due to shitty QC on Sigs part. If you get one that works I'm sure it..

[iMagUdspEllr]

@AdmiralGST I'm sure it would be a good gun if you got a reliable one. Supposedly the QA dept. at Sig isn't doing a great job as of late... but that means they just didn't build it right... not necessarily that the design is flawed.

[AdmiralGST]

@iMagUdspEllr Their QC is still really good, the internet has just overblown things.

[iMagUdspEllr]

@AdmiralGST Then since the reliability was the reason why the Sig lost to the Glock and the M&P I guess the design is bad. But was that the old p250 that was being tested or the new one. The new one is not the one shown in this video.

[AdmiralGST]

@iMagUdspEllr It probably was an older one or more. The new one I hear is fine just that long trigger bothers most shooters.

[iMagUdspEllr]

@AdmiralGST Am I wrong that a Beretta 92FS or a Sig P226 have just as long of a DA trigger if not longer? The P250 seems to have just as smooth of a trigger, the same length of pull, but it is much lighter. I dunno I guess I have to play with the P250 a little more to see if the trigger pull is too long for me. I do have small hands but it didn't seem to bother me. I dunno I guess I have to check it out again.

[iMagUdspEllr]

@AdmiralGST Gotcha thanks.

[AdmiralGST]

@iMagUdspEllr (Comment Continued) likes this gun for the reasons stated. The BATF did a weapons test while looking for a new gun and tested the Glock, the M&P, and the P250. They dropped the P250 and approved the Glock and the M&P. That test is well documented and easily found on the internet if you don't believe me.

SIG Sauer is my favorite firearm manufacturer, I even applied to get a job there twice and my favorite handgun is the P220 SAO. But the P250 is a flop, its too bad though.

[lilwildrabbit]

@AdmiralGST  if it is such a flop then why did the air marshals give Sigarms a multi million contract ???

[AdmiralGST]

@lilwildrabbit Politics. BATFE dropped the SIG and gave the contract to both S&W and Glock because of it being unreliable. By the way, the company is SIG Sauer, not Sigarms. The went back to that name a few years ago.

[45Supergun]

@AdmiralGST The price reduction is because they radically lowered the price of the conversion kits, which was the whole point in the 1st place. The trigger on this gun is great AS IS.

[AdmiralGST]

@45Supergun I don't like the trigger, its too long, longer than a revovler's trigger.

[ChloeeIsFat]

glad i found this before i traded my XDM for 1

[MrLancer6000]

winchesterranger2 i will out shoot you any day with DAO trigger what boils down to his people are lazy and don't want to practice which is why you see police shoot outs where it takes more than one round to hit a target. DAO triggers require you to know your gun and practice with it so when it comes down to stressful situations you know your going to hit the target cause you had to really put in time at the range.

[AdmiralGST]

@MrLancer6000 When it comes to shooting, single action triggers beat double action any day. They are easier to shoot better and don't require as much concentration which is what you want.

[adobo777]

thats one long ass pull

[reesie0414]

why are most these polymer pistols so damn ugly? Sold my glock 20 then i bought a five seven. If it was'nt for the fact i like the round for it and that THe Fn is the only pistol that fires it i would have gotten a steeel gun

[otacon451]

am i looking at a subcompact?

[scb0421]

@otacon451 Looks like the compact version. And it is the old frame design. The changes are slight but you can't use the old mags in the new frame and visa versa.

[otacon451]

@scb0421 thanks!

[migkillertwo]

I really cannot believe that they abandoned the tried and true DA/SA of the p220 series. The overtravel seems pretty good, and it doesn't looks too heavy (the gun was not shaking as you pulled), but everything else is atrocious.

[ttumpire]

WinchesterRanger what do you mean, a trigger made for Lawyers ?.........R you talking a the long trigger pull?......if u are thing about with all that time he has pulling this trigger, he must have time 2 change his mind about the shot.....maybe along the lines of premediated....well you should'nt pull it unless ya gonna USE it....I'm a cop from Ga. & that's what i was thinking......I carry a Glock on duty G22....i carry this same Sig Sauer 250 when I'm off duty........

[FrankeNoveske]

What reset? lol

[doublejay74]

Ahh...ok. Now, did you press the trigger and leave it pressed and then racked the slide? Does that reset the trigger at a shorter distance? Because even on a double/single Sig pistol, you have about the same slack if your pressing the trigger on double action. Mmm....

[Spev142]

Would it be possible for you to do a review on that piece. Thinking about getting it.

[TheTopGun920]

I wanted a sig because I know the FBI had them for awile, but after watching this...i dont know lol. DOA sucks IMO but this is like even longer than i imagined.

[CoreitoTheGreat]

This pistol seems like it was designed for large government contracts where DAO triggers are all the rage. That DAO trigger with such horrible reset just kills it for me. I don't want a gun that was designed to keep lawyers happy, I want a gun that will make it easier for me to get the job done.

[garrett30328]

Does he have slide lock on??

[unbeatableshooter]

i love this gun want one for carry gun what u think about it

[rushofspeed]

Got sig?

[Armed24seven]

not the greatest creation sig has made.

[andyswee3]

lamarbrog is incorrect. I have had second strikes on hard primers work several times on centerfire ammunition. I prefer single action or SA/DA to DAO, but second strike capability is definitely a plus if you can deal with the trigger pulls on many of them.

[Goindeff]

Sig.....there in a class all there own. Looks good

[patrizzi159]

looks good 2 me !!!!!!!!

[BiGBeRt3o5]

Too long a reset in my opinion.

[alpha9mm]

Wow, the reset on the gun is so long. I like how the glock has a short reset.

[matrixllc]

Ok that is it this video has sold me I am buying this gun today!! What a fantastic pistol!

[Armed24seven]

did you end up buying the p250?

[JonJon95GT]

How would you compare it to the DAK?

I bought a beautiful DHS DAK 229R and sold it a week later.

Can you follow up quickly with this thing?

[shooterpcb]

I have a P250 .40SW and love it. It takes a little getting used to, but once you get the feel of it and comfortable with it, it is a nice shooter.

[Armed24seven]

the p250 is not comparable to the 1911. The 1911 blows this plastic pos out of the water

[Brantoc]

To disassemble and clean a 1911 is a bit of a pain, but the P250 is like 8 total parts including the clip and pin. The 1911 has more parts than that between the hammer and grip safety.

For non-professionals. People who don't LIVE guns it (or a Glock or XD or whatever) is not a bad gun, and it's a SIG so it's accurate as crap. THAT BEING SAID some 1911's REALLY look good, and others are crap. check the brands..

Taurus may be good, but that gold crap 1911 they sell makes me not like them.

[grooms63941]

I don't mean to sound like a dumbass but was that the real gun he was holding?

[mwgowin]

Yes

[IceTTom]

@grooms63941

It's says Sig P250 in the title doesn't it...??

[TheIlluminatus07]

@grooms63941 yeah he was dry firing...

[Rainbow76]

This new SIG P250 is a double action

design ,which is more reliable and

safety for the law enforcement officer.

But ,if using this pistol for the army combat is the other issue.

The point of design and making of this

pistol for avoid of "Misfired"

[PLEEUZ]

Not trying to be a know-it-all but to be more precise it is a double action only design.

[WinchesterRanger]

A trigger made for lawyers everywhere.

Longer than a politicans speach.

Good luck trying to shoot that thing well.

[gnatsum67]

im going to buy one tomorrow try to get in my house with me on the unsafe end :)

[SIG220C]

Most people who are too lazy to practice and become proficient with a double action pistol make stupid comments like that. People fear what they dont understand. And for the record I love and shoot both double action and single action handguns well.

[WinchesterRanger]

And many gun owners, are bereft of social skills, happy to call people lazy and stupid simply because of an opinion, even one that is perfectly correct.

You will not find a single credible firearms expert from Clint Smith to Jeff Cooper who would agree that a long double action pull does anything but make accurate shooting more difficult and training requirements more extensive. Handguns that transition from DA to SA are the most difficult of all to master.

Don't bother me again.

[ScottfromTexas]

Yep - Single Action Only is still the best.

[mach2525]

@WinchesterRanger I have the P250 Fullsize with the 4.7 barrel. The Reset is long however these guns are extremely accurate and balanced well.

[ChineseKungFu01]

Nice gun, Our Hong Kong policemen are using SIG P250 Dcc. But our policeman said he have to used more force to pull the trigger. It hurt his finger when he fire many times during training.

[ChineseKungFu01]

Thanks for your info. HK Police Force buy 4,000 SIG P250Dcc, to replaced 30yrs old Colt Detective Special.

Policeman said P250Dcc hold more ammo, more firepower, and more reliable than Colt Detective Special.

But the only bad things is that it need to used more force to pull the trigger, than Colt Detective Special.

[3is]

seeing this breaks my heart. I really do like the p250. i was hoping that the trigger would be like the DAK. or at the very least da/sa. I guess i will continue to carry my 239.

[NIKON777]

long live the SP 2022

[faksen13]

Thank you for a informative video. When can i look at a video comparing sig p250 with sig 226 ;)

and a how to disasembel/reasembel P250 (close up film)

[mwgowin]

Been looking to do something like that. Will probably do the 220 and 250. Or maybe a 229 and 250.

[PocketDrummer]

@mwgowin Pretty please compare the P250 and the P229. I'm torn between the two right now, and any information would be great.

[novan3]

How are your groupings at 15-20 yards?

My first time out to the range I was getting pitiful groupings to the point I put it away in disgust for the Glock.

The DAO trigger on polymer frame will definitely need getting use to.

[mwgowin]

Just to let everyone know because I keep getting the questing (and a few smart comments) that with this weapon slide action has nothing to do with the length and weight of the trigger pull. This is not a DAK pull and it does not have a short reset point. It is however very smooth and light. So smooth and light that I shoot much better with this pistol that I do my 220R da/sa. It is lighter than any revolver trigger I have felt as well.

[HollywoodWalkofFame]

OPERATOR ERROR: After shot, keep trigger finger fully pulled back after slide cycles. Then-slowly let off of the trigger until you hear it click. At this point (no further-not fully released) it's a lighter (& shorter) trigger pull for next shot. You can try in a dry fire. Pull the trigger, keeping it held all the way back, cycle the slide manually. Then slowly let off until the click is felt/heard. There's your set trigger. Don't own this model but works on other Sigs, HK's & Glocks.

[mwgowin]

POSTER IGNORANCE: That is not how it works for this weapon. It is a true double action pull. What you are describing is a DAK type trigger. The trigger pull on this weapon has nothing to do with the slide. Please check before posting stuff like OPERATOR ERROR.

[HollywoodWalkofFame]

Like I said in the post-I didn't know about this specific model. You roused my curiosity so I ran 250 rounds through one today. Has great carry gun trigger, and that's what it must be classed as, Not a tight group target gun. It suffers the issues of every other Swiss watch: TMMP (too many moving parts) Is DAK a Swiss word? ;) Don't get me wrong- I love moving parts- I own several H&K's and a Sig Mosquito. I carry a G17 for everyday reliability. Now, remain calm & quit breaking the pills in half

[mwgowin]

Hehe, sorry - sometimes my desert war syndrom gets the best of me....

[PocketDrummer]

@HollywoodWalkofFame DAK = Double Action Kellerman, after the designer of the system (source: Wikipedia)

[HollywoodWalkofFame]

@PocketDrummer Thanks!

[IamtherealDisaster]

The big advantage of this TRUE DAO trigger is second strike capability, since the slide does not need to be cycled to cock the hammer. It is arguably safer,

The trigger on this gun is one of the best DAO you will find...about 6 pounds...clean and smooth.

[Jengilis]

I took mine back to the range and still think it rocks! Got even faster and more accurate with it. Don't mind tucking the pistol in my pants because the trigger is safe.

[IamtherealDisaster]

I believe the video is trying to convey that the trigger has a long reset. Some think this is a disadvantage compared to something like a Glock.

If you've ever seen someone unload a DA revolver (same concept) you would realize that in trained hands it doesn't make a difference. I believe the record for unloading an 8 shot revolver, accurately, is just about one second.

[jhnthnjns]

I have a P-250. It is DAO, but each pull feels like a SA pull. I love the gun, and I shoot pretty good with it. Still want to try it in .40, as mine is only set up for 9mm, but that is not by my choice.

[whitedime]

glocks are double action only, i dont see what the big deal is

[nominalvelocity]

Glocks are striker fired single actions, they are not double action, certainly not DAO. No matter what the box says, no matter what other idiots say, and no matter how hard people like you plug their ears and shout "I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!! NANANA!", A GLOCK IS NOT DOUBLE ACTION!

Double action only means the trigger cocks the weapon for you, every time it's pulled-and Glocks just don't work that way.

To re-cock the striker on a Glock you have to rack the slide far enough to cock it, or go all out.

[neverdeadxxx13]

THANK YOU.....i have no idea where the people get the idea that glocka are DAO...but whatever

[ScottfromTexas]

Striker vs. DAO - it is largely a distinction without a difference

[nominalvelocity]

Well, there's a sure hell of a difference if you expect to get a second strike on a stubborn primer with a Glock. Ain't gonna happen.

Excepting the Taurus 24/7 (DAO being an option), and the Walther P99 AS (which is a standard DA/SA pistol with a striker) I don't know of any other striker pistols which have any sort of double action. Do you?

Being striker fired doesn't change the fact that Glocks are SINGLE ACTION ONLY in practice. Some dummies are told and continue to believe otherwise. //PSA

[ScottfromTexas]

Awesome reply. I stand corrected. As I understood it, it was just a difference between having one piece which is little more than a heavy firing pin vs. a firing pin and hammer. I was under the impression that if you pulled the "DA" trigger on a Glock it would strike again - this is not the case?

[nominalvelocity]

Not the case. The trigger is locked rearward when the striker isn't in the default half-cocked position. The trigger has no place to go.

The you can return a Glock to the half-cock position by pulling the slide back a bit, but it's tough to do, especially under duress, and it's just better to perform the tap-rack-bang clearing drill.

In actuality, the action is kind of a 1 1/2 action, because the striker is pulled rearward fully just before the sear releases it--more for safety than anything.

[skyhop]

Second strike is a silly training method. Tap, Rack, and FIRE WITH THAT FRESH NON-FAULTY ROUND! There you go. Problem solved.

[nominalvelocity]

I don't disagree with that you've said... And clearly it's THE method to use with single action weapons.

It's just that if you're involved in a shooting where the first strike on the primer fails, (a rare enough occurrence with good ammo), it may happen that you don't even notice the malfunction, and squeeze the trigger again.

If it goes off the second time, which is often the case with bum primers, you're back in business without doing the standard clearing drill--discounting magazine issues.

[lamarbrog]

Exactly.... Has anyone ever actually had that work? The chances seem incredibly low.

If the primer doesn't ignite, putting the firing pin into the hole you've already created isn't going to do anything.

On rimfire, running a cartridge through again, so the pin hits a different part of the primer, has worked for me. I don't think I've ever had a dud center fire go off with a second attempt, though.

[nominalvelocity]

Actually, I've had factory ammo with primers that were apparently not fully seated, one occurrence was with premium hollowpoint ammo. The first firing pin impact pushes the primer forward, and the second will ignite it.

Of course, I've done a few of those with my reloads as well. Just goes to show that you should inspect your carry ammo before you count on it.

[Jengilis]

You guys are talking a lot about a trigger you haven't tried. Safe. Quick. Accurate....just practice a little with it and both are on par with a "faster" trigger. Reminds me of the cowboy cap gun when I was a kid. Rapid fire is about the same....just keep on squeezing the trigger. Every shot is identical. Left hand is easy. One handed works well too.

I say everyone should try and then decide.

[jasonm621]

Is this like the DAK but not called the DAK? how hard is the trigger pull?

[ahidk]

shaittttttttttttttt

[3is]

this convinces me that i DONT want a p250 now. :-P I'll stick to "conventional" DA/SA.

[adlsp]

I don't get what the video is trying to convey, and your comment as well. Can you explain as I was thinking of getting this gun. Thanks

[neverdeadxxx13]

I dont know if the guy replied to you yet. but this gun is a dual action only...wich means that every trigger pull is very long. Some like it, most dont.

[alexfrommsn]

and what about slide, when goes beck.. is the same reset, for point.

[daltexmex02]

that is 24 seconds i will never get back.

[mwgowin]

Then why did you watch it you retard!

[fisherc6]

1. Sig definitely needs to consider DA/SA...I loved my P226 for it's crisp trigger pull and reset. 2. Kudos to Sig...ambidextrous guns should be mandatory. I'm a leftie and it really limits my choices. There is no way I should have to compromise my safety because of my dominant hand.

[bearhunter7mm]

i am also a lefty, when there early models came out i found them disgustingly right handed.seeing as i am not a glock fan(da only)i opted fo a 1911norinco gov model with extended slide release+safety from wilson combat. i now have a k100 grand power 9mm. its a fully amidextous pistol that does averything a glock can do and then some! just look at the videos on youtube of it.

[alexfrommsn]

bla bla, u leftie ... bla u need limit yr choices, bla bla..

[vachief]

..I think the Sig DA/SA is a better choice.

[smashingchickens]

WOW!!! most exciting shit EVER!!!

[alexfrommsn]

,-)

[IceTTom]

@smashingchickens

LMAO

[finalcoverage]

After putting the 250 through about 500 rounds of paces I have the following impressions: 1. If you fire a Glock afterwards it feels like a HAIR TRIGGER - the Glock that is...2. Yes, this is one Looooooong pull and reset...should make many municipality's lawyers VERY happy 3. It should make many PO's VERY dead when dealing with methos who need multiples rat-tat-tat.4. Sig MUST be planning a shorter pull and reset option or they are suicide businessmen...5. I still LOVE it but it is contra-Glock.

[mwgowin]

Dont think it will make any POs dead. I shoot mine better than my 220 and just as fast. Shot a local match and did not feel outguned by SA 1911s. It is the shooter and the training not the gun.

[finalcoverage]

Well then...you MUST be right!

[gaivietdep]

how many levels of retention is your issue? had a great group of serious pistoleros Flunk the Air marshal course,carryin concealed with one point of retention a simple thumb snap, they were all great shooters but were from Border/Marshals etc. had too much retention on their holsters i believe 3-point for customs, slowed em way down Very few passed(and these were their firearms instructor cadre)

[bearhunter7mm]

forgot to say that the k100 is single double with a very short double!

[Reflectivemind]

I love the sig 250, went to buy a kimber pro carry, left with a sig 250....simply awesome pistol

[jkdmrod]

Is the reset all the way at the end of the stroke? For quick shooting, Do you have to take your finger off the trigger in order not to get a useless trigger pull? I was thinking of getting one.

[mwgowin]

The pull is very light but there is enough force there that you will feel when it resets. Not quite a rebount reset like S&W revolvers but you can get used to the pull really quick. I would think your first shot would be a lot faster than a DA/SA.

[jkdmrod]

thanks

[NIKON777]

That blows. It needs to be DA/SA. That, along with a 100 dollar price drop, and my Glock 19 would be toast. For now, my SigPro 2022 rules the roost.

[BMW530i]

I am still on the fence, I would like to see a SRT available from sig though.

[ernunnos]

When you test reset on a semi-auto pistol, you really need to rack the slide while holding down the trigger to simulate the cocking effect of semi-auto action. It doesn't make a difference with the SIG P250, but with the SIG DAK trigger it does. The Glock trigger won't even reset at all without it. I wish they'd put the DAK trigger in the P250. It'd be a much better pistol.

[mwgowin]

Yeh thats the thing with the 250, makes no diff if you rack the slide. The only thing thing the slide does is disconnect the trigger.

[tsholtis]

What risk

[kickZtailout]

Hopefully there are other options, like Sig alludes to. My P220's reset is waaaaaay shorter than that.

[mwgowin]

Yeh but less clanky than any revolver I have felt. I am still getting used to it too.

[BMW530i]

That is one long reset, it is like that of a revolver.