He's not quote mining Dr Craig. I've watched many of his videos and complete debates.
He has CONSISTENTLY held the opinion that the Big Bang establishes the second premise of the Kalam Cosmological Argument, his pet argument which he uses in all debates. Regarding "something from nothing" watch 2:07
Yup.
And he has, in fact, expressed skepticism in evolution. In a debate with Francisco Ayala, Craig quotes Michael Behe in support of his position of skepticism.
This Guy is a Fraud.... whay a fucking idiot.... he is full of bullshit...just looking for fame..... Dawkins is way superior intelectually than this idiot...... just lost 4:28 minutes of my life....
Simply ramblings of nonsense, I can't believe an adult can be so well-versed in and such an adamant believer of something so ridiculous. I really feel pity for the wasted potential of all of the intelligent believers that dedicate their lives to such evangelist-type roles, pretty amazing.
great video. it reveals that little maggot called w.craig in true light- a WORM that is crawling at the feet of his god, trying to fill his empty existence with a 'relationship' with god. what a despicable hypocritical apologist of christianity, for whom it is too late to get help.
This whole story of a FATHER sending a SON to die for our sins proves how shitty imagination did these people have few thousand years ago and that this religious belief is full of nonsense....
How about the concept there is not a god behind the creation of the universe (especially a Christian god, which you infer)? Is that not simpler, doctor?
my favorite thing about Craig is, he has all these sophisticated arguments...for deism. but then he'll jump from that, to "therefore jesus is the son of god and our salvation depends on him." it's humorous to watch.
So, Craig has accepted the big bang theory? How he must have wrestled violently with the idea of woman made from the rib of man, and a world created in six days! Science really laid waste that silly story! But now they claim God initiated the big bang. Guys, we know it's going to be difficult to give up the comfort of sucking your thumb, but you're not a baby anymore, so you need to grow up!
When he says "the Big Bang represents the origin of the universe from literally nothing", he is simply wrong. Nevertheless, he insists, in every discussion, debate or speech touching on this topic, that that was the scientific view currently held by mainstream, credible cosmology.
He's a trickster trying to cheat his way through the argument by misprepresenting a fact in order to claim it for his own Kalam argument. A theist following Craig's argument is gullible, dishonest, or both.
so God is jesus and jesus is his son so God is his own son and his own father and he sends his own son (that would actually be him self) to earth to die for our sins. How sick is it to believe something like that ? you've gotta be a retard to see the logic in something like that. If he's God why would he make this "salvation" so crazy. Just forgive the humans. lol
I think this fellow needs to watch George Carlin on religion. Do people really believe this crap in this day and age. They must be really stupid to ignore the fact not faith that are before them. How can you believe in myths that were made up by a bunch of man looking for control and power over the simple people of the time. I would hope we were long past such childish beliefs. There is no God, no Jesus or Holy Spirit. Just like there is no Santa, Easter Bunny or Tooth Fairy. Grow up and think.
Yew Wield YerMathWeapons like SledgeHammer!!! Yew "Conveniently" ignore Current AstrologicalScience which Shews that there are FewPlanets which May HarborSeal EternalLives!! THEREFORE: THE # OF jesuses is in the low Hundreds in our SolarSystem, (PlustheJesuseswhoslippedintoourBlackHole..ofcourse!) The Math for the RESTOFTHEFINITEUNIVERSE whould be Correspondingly in the lowmillions of Jesuses!! GETYERFACTSSTRAIGHT..BUB!!!
Thanks for this. He clearly does change the particulars of his views to suit whatever audience he's in front of. Like...almost every modern theologian. Snake oil salesman--a very, very, very good one, and this aspect is worth looking att, however.
Heard of the God of the Gaps? This god is used to explain events we humans don't understand. Over time this god has had to retreat. People like WLC now use theological scientific jargon to hide behind, making it a nonsense to debate with them because they argue from a different universe.
That only is to be found in their heads (so to say). Craig is a "creationist" (he really is, he keeps equivocating and masking his position when confronted) and a "solipsist". There is no help...
One cause is matter and physical laws, placing god is putting two causes...... Violating ockhams razor as pointed out by David Hume in Dialoges Concerning Natural Religion..... This man is an idiot, which is not surprising because he is also christain.
He argues that the universe began to exist because of thermodynamic considerations and the impossibility of an actual infinite. However, if eternity is a timeless void, then the universe is eternal in the sense that there were no moments in which the space-time continuum did not exist.
KALAM FAIL.
"Premise 2; The universe began to exist"
That has in no way been demonstrated yet. The whole argument falls apart.
@Sapien6x I agree, craig's hypocrisy has no limits -- he said in the debate with Hitchens that "You have to feel sorry for atheists because they cannot follow the evidence where they lead!" here craig refers to evolution!!! accotding to this madman evolution poves god(!?!) and scientists cannot see that becausethey are already committed to atheism! it's hard to get any more pathetic and dishonest than that
Finally, a Deist who stands up to this kind of disingenuous vacillations so typical especially of christian theists. They think they have the right to pick and choose what specific argument from deism, pantheism, Jesuitism, Aquinasism, Lutheranism et al. suits any particular rebuttal they might have. Most let them get away with it, so props to you. You are why Dawkins said that give-and-take conversations with deists are possible. 5 stars!
@Ontologistics unfortunatelly this wouldn't be so easy. the god craig argues for is evidence-proof, so how can anyone refute him. and if you try to point out the nonsense in the Bible, this hypoctrite starts arguing that it's not to be taken literarily and so on. So Dawkins is right not to debate this idiot, there's simply no point -- especially given his claim that evolution actually proves the existence of god! craig is a disgrace to phiosophers
This William Lane Craig guy is a complete, total idiot. How come anyone is paying any attention to this clown - brainwashed be the Man made fraudulent fantasy known as religion.
The concept of a multiverse originates in scientific theory, it's not just a fabrication by atheists to explain away a god. Thus, Occam's razor does not dispose of it.
(See Dawkins with Weinberg for a discussion of this)
This guy tries pretty hard to convince himself this is all true, i am and atheist so i cannot relate, not believing in god is as easy as not believing in thor, it takes no effort not to believe but to believe you must have to pitch yourself this con pretty well to keep believing.
Yup, even more so when that God is a personal, interacting on a daily bases, prayer listening, country supporting, author of a book, manifesting in flesh coming to Earth type of God..
THEISTS have superimposed way too much on life to even be taken serious anymore.. Think about, during the crucifixion of Jesus, what was the rest of the world up to? They were just living as usual, Jesus needed not come..
watch?v=iWjtRFNSl2s
Arguing for the philosophers God won't help theism (Christianity).
Redemption from what? I had nothing to do with what the mythical Adam and Eve did. Why was I punished for something i had nothing to do with? Quite unfair. I didn't even choose to be born.
Why do people come up with these claims without a scrap of verifiable evidence?
This guy is a fucking retard christian apologist. They love to take scientific and philosophic terms and play the semantics game with real theory perverting it into self serving lie or double talk... typical Christians!
"Atheists believe in the biggest miracle ever: that nothing can bring forth something. Talk about insanity!"
Quantum physics has confirmed that matter and energy can, do and must come from nothing. All the time. Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle predicted this and has been verified.
So yes, something comes from nothing. The behavior of particles at the quantum level defies all logic and causality. If you can refute this, there's a Nobel Prize waiting for you.
I have a good idea of what the trinity means. In John Donne's words, it means a "three-personed god:" The Holy Spirit, God the Father and Jesus. Theists believe in the biggest miracle ever: that God the Father created something from nothing ... poof ... simple because he is God "It" was. So, if he is God, why is he silent today? Why was he such a loud and vibrant voice in the Old Testament, but thousands of years later (remember, he is the same yesterday, today and forever) why is he silent?
You believe in the greatest nonsense ever: that the existence of men comes from dust that was given life by a man that always existed. Save yourself time and believe man was always around.
Dr Craig was asked (see website Contra Craig) whether if he could go back in a time machine and see that Jesus never rose from the dead, but lay rotting, would he disbelieve in Jesus' divinity? His answer, an emphatic 'no'. He said he would assume that God was playing some kind of trick on him, causing him only to think Jesus was rotting before his eyes! What a joke this man is. He only respects objective evidence when it doesn't interfere with his faith. He's a fraud.
Planck satellite, Herschel Space Observatory, Large Hadron Collider (LHC), Laser Interferometry Space Antenna (LISA), Constellation-X Observatory, Big Bang Observer (BBO), James Webb Space Telescope (JWST), SuperNova/Acceleration Probe (SNAP), Advanced Dark Energy Physics Telescope (ADEPT), Black-Hole Imager (MAXIM)
How much more beautiful than bronze age mythology. Humanity using its power of reason.
I've spoken with a lot of atheists, and this is not what they believe. They simply DON'T KNOW what happened.
Planck satellite, Herschel Space Observatory, Large Hadron Collider (LHC), Laser Interferometry Space Antenna (LISA), Constellation-X Observatory, Big Bang Observer (BBO), James Webb Space Telescope (JWST), SuperNova/Acceleration Probe (SNAP), Advanced Dark Energy Physics Telescope (ADEPT), Black-Hole Imager (MAXIM)
Unlike you, who claim to know everything, we distrust anything against science and outrage logic. Yes, that's what separates us atheists from the religious. The more we learn the more we don't know. Those things you have listed above have given us tremendous among of knowledge to better understand the universe.
"Atheists believe in the biggest miracle ever: that nothing can bring forth something."
atheists lack belief in theistic deities, or they positively deny the existence of those. thats it. and yes, throughout our "glorious" christian history almost everyone who deviated from "the dogma" was labeled atheist by the christians. even the christians themselves were called atheists in ancient rome.
if "nothing" is defined as vacuum then this is what follows:
Your first statement is entirely false, misinformed and an appeal to ignorance. NOONE said nothing brought forth something. We simply don't know and if you study Quantum Physics you'll see very plausible theories for the existence of a universe without the need for a divine authority. Peace...
@rationalresponseguy
He's not quote mining Dr Craig. I've watched many of his videos and complete debates.
He has CONSISTENTLY held the opinion that the Big Bang establishes the second premise of the Kalam Cosmological Argument, his pet argument which he uses in all debates. Regarding "something from nothing" watch 2:07
Yup.
And he has, in fact, expressed skepticism in evolution. In a debate with Francisco Ayala, Craig quotes Michael Behe in support of his position of skepticism.
Redfingers 1 year ago
Three C o c k s in your A s s
Dr. William "B o l l o c k s" Craig
feta3000 1 year ago
This Guy is a Fraud.... whay a fucking idiot.... he is full of bullshit...just looking for fame..... Dawkins is way superior intelectually than this idiot...... just lost 4:28 minutes of my life....
VOD713 1 year ago
craig loves reverse logic
lukeism2 1 year ago
Simply ramblings of nonsense, I can't believe an adult can be so well-versed in and such an adamant believer of something so ridiculous. I really feel pity for the wasted potential of all of the intelligent believers that dedicate their lives to such evangelist-type roles, pretty amazing.
RussianAssassin21 1 year ago
Lol @ using Occam's Razor.
The theory that's accurate almost 70% of the time!
LukeShetler 1 year ago
Whoever did this, thank you and I love you.
boricuajoker 1 year ago
great video. it reveals that little maggot called w.craig in true light- a WORM that is crawling at the feet of his god, trying to fill his empty existence with a 'relationship' with god. what a despicable hypocritical apologist of christianity, for whom it is too late to get help.
HerrVonManstein 1 year ago
This whole story of a FATHER sending a SON to die for our sins proves how shitty imagination did these people have few thousand years ago and that this religious belief is full of nonsense....
gskowal 1 year ago
How about the concept there is not a god behind the creation of the universe (especially a Christian god, which you infer)? Is that not simpler, doctor?
evifnoskcaj 1 year ago
Today I was blocked from drcraigvideos channel, I feel honored! A singularly worthy achievement, I think! :-)
kern0099 1 year ago
Oh Darn what wackjob, is this the Kent Hovind secret brother?
JerezJulio 1 year ago
my favorite thing about Craig is, he has all these sophisticated arguments...for deism. but then he'll jump from that, to "therefore jesus is the son of god and our salvation depends on him." it's humorous to watch.
BillKiernan 1 year ago
Christians and their stupid trinity crap trying to link the horrible OT god with not even more horrible eternal torturer of the NT.
HonestTechnoAtheist 1 year ago
unbelievable BULLSHIT !! I can't believe that anybody seriously listens to this CRAP !!
Andrewlohbihler 1 year ago
So, Craig has accepted the big bang theory? How he must have wrestled violently with the idea of woman made from the rib of man, and a world created in six days! Science really laid waste that silly story! But now they claim God initiated the big bang. Guys, we know it's going to be difficult to give up the comfort of sucking your thumb, but you're not a baby anymore, so you need to grow up!
kadene2 1 year ago
religious academic writings could only be generously described as fanfic. people this intelligent are wasting their brains
stoltobot 2 years ago
When he says "the Big Bang represents the origin of the universe from literally nothing", he is simply wrong. Nevertheless, he insists, in every discussion, debate or speech touching on this topic, that that was the scientific view currently held by mainstream, credible cosmology.
He's a trickster trying to cheat his way through the argument by misprepresenting a fact in order to claim it for his own Kalam argument. A theist following Craig's argument is gullible, dishonest, or both.
blackwolf1200 2 years ago
Nice one
BGfromGB 2 years ago
William Lane Craig contributes nothing to the human progress except add more Christians to this world, which is the last thing our world needs.
uuduu7 2 years ago
so God is jesus and jesus is his son so God is his own son and his own father and he sends his own son (that would actually be him self) to earth to die for our sins. How sick is it to believe something like that ? you've gotta be a retard to see the logic in something like that. If he's God why would he make this "salvation" so crazy. Just forgive the humans. lol
xxRockst4r 2 years ago
craig is just an asshole
naybobdenod 2 years ago
I think this fellow needs to watch George Carlin on religion. Do people really believe this crap in this day and age. They must be really stupid to ignore the fact not faith that are before them. How can you believe in myths that were made up by a bunch of man looking for control and power over the simple people of the time. I would hope we were long past such childish beliefs. There is no God, no Jesus or Holy Spirit. Just like there is no Santa, Easter Bunny or Tooth Fairy. Grow up and think.
royme55 2 years ago
Yew Wield YerMathWeapons like SledgeHammer!!! Yew "Conveniently" ignore Current AstrologicalScience which Shews that there are FewPlanets which May HarborSeal EternalLives!! THEREFORE: THE # OF jesuses is in the low Hundreds in our SolarSystem, (PlustheJesuseswhoslippedintoourBlackHole..ofcourse!) The Math for the RESTOFTHEFINITEUNIVERSE whould be Correspondingly in the lowmillions of Jesuses!! GETYERFACTSSTRAIGHT..BUB!!!
warwithangels 2 years ago
@CommanderSavage Uhh...What Yew Said...but..Without the ...uh..excellentspeakeranddebaterpart!! LOL!!
warwithangels 2 years ago 5
according to existing proof WLC could have recited passages from Lord of the Rings and they would ring just as true and be just as credible...
symelian 2 years ago 52
His tie s are better than him.
pobanmanu 2 years ago
Epicurean Riddle
God is all-powerful.
God is perfectly good.
Evil exists.
If God exists, there would be no evil.
Therefore God does not exist.
drandersw 2 years ago
Thanks for this. He clearly does change the particulars of his views to suit whatever audience he's in front of. Like...almost every modern theologian. Snake oil salesman--a very, very, very good one, and this aspect is worth looking att, however.
Eldeecue 2 years ago 2
He is a christains apoligist.
Basically they start with the conclusion "God exisit" and then make up excuses and evidence for God.
badpanda84 2 years ago 12
Heard of the God of the Gaps? This god is used to explain events we humans don't understand. Over time this god has had to retreat. People like WLC now use theological scientific jargon to hide behind, making it a nonsense to debate with them because they argue from a different universe.
Ikke999 2 years ago 8
"argue from a different universe"
That only is to be found in their heads (so to say). Craig is a "creationist" (he really is, he keeps equivocating and masking his position when confronted) and a "solipsist". There is no help...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago 8
One cause is matter and physical laws, placing god is putting two causes...... Violating ockhams razor as pointed out by David Hume in Dialoges Concerning Natural Religion..... This man is an idiot, which is not surprising because he is also christain.
tempemonkey2323 2 years ago 7
Dr Craig reminds me of Scrappy Do.
lamplighteyes 2 years ago 9
"Why do you call me 'good'? Only God (Yahveh) is good." -- Jesus
So... Jesus WAS god but only the "Main" god is good? The Father God? Does this make Jesus 'bad'?
Hmm... me thinks I smell the droppings of bull.
rationalmuscle 2 years ago 7
Could not have said it better. Great comment.
JadeChaos 2 years ago
Hitchens destroys Craig in debate on my channel...
Sapien6x 2 years ago
WLC FAIL.
He argues that the universe began to exist because of thermodynamic considerations and the impossibility of an actual infinite. However, if eternity is a timeless void, then the universe is eternal in the sense that there were no moments in which the space-time continuum did not exist.
KALAM FAIL.
"Premise 2; The universe began to exist"
That has in no way been demonstrated yet. The whole argument falls apart.
MrDarkbloom 2 years ago
Hear the Hitchens vs Craig debate on my channel & listen to more of Craig's hypocrisy and obscurantist rant.
He is also a fellow of the Discovery Institute!
Sapien6x 2 years ago
@Sapien6x I agree, craig's hypocrisy has no limits -- he said in the debate with Hitchens that "You have to feel sorry for atheists because they cannot follow the evidence where they lead!" here craig refers to evolution!!! accotding to this madman evolution poves god(!?!) and scientists cannot see that becausethey are already committed to atheism! it's hard to get any more pathetic and dishonest than that
HerrVonManstein 1 year ago
Christianity should be treated as a mental disorder.
It has retarded every positive human endeavor since it's inception. It is time we rid ourselves of this scourge.
judoyodan 2 years ago 67
Beautifully and articulately stated.
vetteluvnh 2 years ago
Finally, a Deist who stands up to this kind of disingenuous vacillations so typical especially of christian theists. They think they have the right to pick and choose what specific argument from deism, pantheism, Jesuitism, Aquinasism, Lutheranism et al. suits any particular rebuttal they might have. Most let them get away with it, so props to you. You are why Dawkins said that give-and-take conversations with deists are possible. 5 stars!
agentssith 2 years ago
this is a fairly eloquent idiot.
berrylict 2 years ago
This guy is on a campaign to debate Dawkins at the moment. I hope it happens, Dawkins would rip him to pieces.
Ontologistics 2 years ago
@Ontologistics unfortunatelly this wouldn't be so easy. the god craig argues for is evidence-proof, so how can anyone refute him. and if you try to point out the nonsense in the Bible, this hypoctrite starts arguing that it's not to be taken literarily and so on. So Dawkins is right not to debate this idiot, there's simply no point -- especially given his claim that evolution actually proves the existence of god! craig is a disgrace to phiosophers
HerrVonManstein 1 year ago
Why do these IGNORANT, self proclaimed specialists even get the attention they surely do not deserve??
It's mind blogging! Where are their credentials? Where are their diplomas and qualifications for speaking about our existence?
intelliGENeration 2 years ago 3
I'd like to point out though that I do enjoy Hitchens.
needleinthehay331 2 years ago
This William Lane Craig guy is a complete, total idiot. How come anyone is paying any attention to this clown - brainwashed be the Man made fraudulent fantasy known as religion.
goldstead 2 years ago 5
The concept of a multiverse originates in scientific theory, it's not just a fabrication by atheists to explain away a god. Thus, Occam's razor does not dispose of it.
(See Dawkins with Weinberg for a discussion of this)
BeRational 2 years ago 2
This guy tries pretty hard to convince himself this is all true, i am and atheist so i cannot relate, not believing in god is as easy as not believing in thor, it takes no effort not to believe but to believe you must have to pitch yourself this con pretty well to keep believing.
CondorDM 2 years ago 31
Yup, even more so when that God is a personal, interacting on a daily bases, prayer listening, country supporting, author of a book, manifesting in flesh coming to Earth type of God..
THEISTS have superimposed way too much on life to even be taken serious anymore.. Think about, during the crucifixion of Jesus, what was the rest of the world up to? They were just living as usual, Jesus needed not come..
watch?v=iWjtRFNSl2s
Arguing for the philosophers God won't help theism (Christianity).
DogmaFreeDeist 2 years ago 6
Redemption from what? I had nothing to do with what the mythical Adam and Eve did. Why was I punished for something i had nothing to do with? Quite unfair. I didn't even choose to be born.
Why do people come up with these claims without a scrap of verifiable evidence?
dbes02 2 years ago
I enjoy watching William Lane Craig get logically buttfucked.
Thank you.
Redfingers 2 years ago
this guy sounds absolutely insane.
all this funny jesus talk. hahahaha.
saburoemon 2 years ago
This guy is a fucking retard christian apologist. They love to take scientific and philosophic terms and play the semantics game with real theory perverting it into self serving lie or double talk... typical Christians!
pomeroy82 2 years ago
Craig is such a moron. Just when you thought Christians couldn't get any more delusional...
judoyodan 2 years ago
"Atheists believe in the biggest miracle ever: that nothing can bring forth something. Talk about insanity!"
Quantum physics has confirmed that matter and energy can, do and must come from nothing. All the time. Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle predicted this and has been verified.
So yes, something comes from nothing. The behavior of particles at the quantum level defies all logic and causality. If you can refute this, there's a Nobel Prize waiting for you.
lynchmobb2000 2 years ago
Dr Craig was just awarded the Nobel Prize for delusion. Good on you WLC!
WhiteLakeDan 2 years ago
I have a good idea of what the trinity means. In John Donne's words, it means a "three-personed god:" The Holy Spirit, God the Father and Jesus. Theists believe in the biggest miracle ever: that God the Father created something from nothing ... poof ... simple because he is God "It" was. So, if he is God, why is he silent today? Why was he such a loud and vibrant voice in the Old Testament, but thousands of years later (remember, he is the same yesterday, today and forever) why is he silent?
everythingafter 2 years ago
3 persons in one person, wtf is he going on about
phuturexy 2 years ago
You believe in the greatest nonsense ever: that the existence of men comes from dust that was given life by a man that always existed. Save yourself time and believe man was always around.
rpcarnell 2 years ago
I say no to god and christians, muslims, islam etc every day in the chatroom DEBATE FAITH
AtheistAtLARGE 2 years ago
Craig gives off that latent-homosexual vibe. He'll be the next Haggard, you watch.
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
@ClumsyRoot hahha I think you are right man (thumbs up) :))
HerrVonManstein 1 year ago
Dr Craig was asked (see website Contra Craig) whether if he could go back in a time machine and see that Jesus never rose from the dead, but lay rotting, would he disbelieve in Jesus' divinity? His answer, an emphatic 'no'. He said he would assume that God was playing some kind of trick on him, causing him only to think Jesus was rotting before his eyes! What a joke this man is. He only respects objective evidence when it doesn't interfere with his faith. He's a fraud.
MrDarkbloom 2 years ago 2
No, atheists don't have to believe in anything; it's not a belief system.
If, however, your comment was a thinly veiled attack on modern science, and in particular the Big Bang Theory, then you are simply wrong.
VanDoodah 2 years ago
Why do you think that atheists/naturalists think that something came from nothing? Who says that there was "nothing"?
Yet theists believe something came from nothing. So what's the problem?
dbes02 2 years ago
Planck satellite, Herschel Space Observatory, Large Hadron Collider (LHC), Laser Interferometry Space Antenna (LISA), Constellation-X Observatory, Big Bang Observer (BBO), James Webb Space Telescope (JWST), SuperNova/Acceleration Probe (SNAP), Advanced Dark Energy Physics Telescope (ADEPT), Black-Hole Imager (MAXIM)
How much more beautiful than bronze age mythology. Humanity using its power of reason.
Goodbye religion , we are grown up now.
ilikezappa 2 years ago
Yew Mean...Jesus is MFMF of ALLSPACEANDTIME??!!
warwithangels 3 years ago 3
"All you're doing is quote-mining Dr. Craig."
Perhaps Dr, Craig should keep that in mind before he quotes deists, pantheists, and atheists to support his THEISTIC beliefs.
DogmaFreeDeist 3 years ago 9
I've spoken with a lot of atheists, and this is not what they believe. They simply DON'T KNOW what happened.
Planck satellite, Herschel Space Observatory, Large Hadron Collider (LHC), Laser Interferometry Space Antenna (LISA), Constellation-X Observatory, Big Bang Observer (BBO), James Webb Space Telescope (JWST), SuperNova/Acceleration Probe (SNAP), Advanced Dark Energy Physics Telescope (ADEPT), Black-Hole Imager (MAXIM)
All coming soon.
DogmaFreeDeist 3 years ago 4
"They simply DON'T KNOW what happened"
Unlike you, who claim to know everything, we distrust anything against science and outrage logic. Yes, that's what separates us atheists from the religious. The more we learn the more we don't know. Those things you have listed above have given us tremendous among of knowledge to better understand the universe.
nathanliang 2 years ago
"Atheists believe in the biggest miracle ever: that nothing can bring forth something."
atheists lack belief in theistic deities, or they positively deny the existence of those. thats it. and yes, throughout our "glorious" christian history almost everyone who deviated from "the dogma" was labeled atheist by the christians. even the christians themselves were called atheists in ancient rome.
if "nothing" is defined as vacuum then this is what follows:
tinyurl(.)com/bahl69
→
you are wrong.
pikechris1 3 years ago
Your first statement is entirely false, misinformed and an appeal to ignorance. NOONE said nothing brought forth something. We simply don't know and if you study Quantum Physics you'll see very plausible theories for the existence of a universe without the need for a divine authority. Peace...
kusalaviro 2 years ago 3