I don't use the bible as proof of God, i use it as evidence that if the "stories" were true, then God is a complete and utter cunt. Not to mention it is THE most contradictory book i have ever placed eyes on. It's like someone dribbled ink onto a page.
What i find funny , is when someone quotes the bible , you can find verse they don't agree with and ignore . When even the most devout believers dismiss large sections of a book they profess to be good , an perfect , it makes the whole thing null and void .
@Norman7sev Science goes from evidence to conclusion. Y depends on the nature of X. In religion, the Y is already predetermined, and they just make up a whole bunch of bullshit "X". Science has always delivered results, both proving and disproving theories. Science has always produced results that progress technology. Religion has a habit of making BS excuses and producing jack squat for humanity. Welcome to real life man, results are all that matters. RESULTS. Therein the difference lies.
@Norman7sev Actually...Science is the study of Nature...And sadly for us, we don't know everything about nature so we can't come up with an "Universal" Truth..we just don't know, but we're trying to get more and more precise. On the other hand, religion says that there is only One Truth..based on a story which we don't have any proof on (as far as I know :)
Science can be a religion if you don't understand what it is or if you use the wrong methods. But at the core, it's fundamentally different.
"there's no objective proof that a god exists." You're right, but here's the thing. If there was, it wouldn't change a thing. Objective proof of a god (not a specific entity, mind you) would only turn most atheists into deists or non-religious theists. At which point the same Christians who called you a God-denier would quote their Bible at you and call you a heretic or heathen or a believer in a false god. If Yahwah were proven to exist, they'd bash you for your denomination. It will never end.
@rationalwarrior Someone once said to me "If you do not believe in a god you have no morality, no purpose". Oh how so wrong he is. It does not matter if you are religious or non religious you have a purpose in life to achieve what you set out to do. I am Gareth kendall and I am proud to be a Atheist :)
@finalsmasher Not true. A deist believes there is a deity. If there is objective proof, there would be no reason to believe anything. We would have knowledge. Semantics, but I think this time it's actually important.
Excellent points as always. To answer your question in the video: I am an Atheist that has been accused of being a God denier. I have been dumbfounded trying to search for a reasonable response to people like this. Its so obvious. Thank you for articulating it.
@TheCaptainD82 I've been called a god denier and a satan worshiper. It gets old real quick so I don't even engage them anymore. If a person can't or won't listen to logic, why waste my time?
i love the interaction with your viewers man! your videos make my days go by, and give me the patience to ignore, or even argue with, ignorant people. Even though arguing doesnt seem to work, as they come up with more bullshit reasons.
What bothers me the most with theists is this idea that all they have to do is prove God exists and their work is done. Not even close. Even if God revealed himself to me this very moment, that still doesn't mean I would fall down on my knees and start worshiping. I would technically no longer be an atheist, but I would not worship. I could never worship the insane jealous monster of the bible who inspired such verses as Exodus 21:7-11, which concerns selling one's daughter into sex slavery.
@CalebAlucardtheHagan That's pretty much the truth, I don't know how many times I've had religious people start quoting the Bible to me, when it turns out I know more of what it says than they do. It's pathetic really.
@FranksVoice Awwww you're so sweet. Thank you Frank. I'll try not to write nasty comments on your videos, no matter how much I would like to sometimes :)
@FranksVoice Frank - the last days have been going on for 2000 years. Jeebus was supposed to return in his apostles' life-times. Give it up Frank - he ain't coming back. Deal with it.
Agreed! Don't tell me I'm wrong by quoting words to me from a book which I obviously don't believe is true or relevant or useful in my life. And I've read the fucken thing so I should know.
Thank you. It's so FREAKING annoying when they do that. I've already stated that I don't believe a word your book says, so stop telling me what your stupid book says!! I KNOW. I STILL DON'T CARE.
@FranksVoice Frank, I would like to thank you for being so honest about your beliefs and your justifcations for those beliefs. Rarely do we get to see someone share their justifcations for believing. Your words are a public testament to the irrationality of theism and Christianity in particular. Most people would be ashamed to admit that they think the fact that the bible "predicted" there would be scoffers is evidence of its veracity. It's a bullshit story Frank..of course there are scoffers
You know, I'm an atheist from Saudi Arabia. I really don't care about religions because it's shit, and I'm not attracted to religion discussions because of the absence of logic and critical thinking, and eventhough they know that I don't care, the religious people here keep quoting their shitty Qura'an words to me, they think it's convening, and because I don't agree with them I might be killed in months "as an apostate".
@rationalwarrior I am rather surprised that you'd say to "pick his battles". Oppression by religion has been quite possibly the greatest bane to human existence, and in a muslim country, he is a brave and proud man who dares to state openly that he is not fooled by the irrational, illogical, unreasonable claims made about supernatural beings and eternal life. I might even call him a "Rational Warrior", wouldn't you?
Rosa Parks did not pick her battles. She was arrested, and risked being killed.
@AdamRainStopper A competent warrior fights strategically. It does no good to rush in a like a bull in a china shop and get killed in the very first battle. His situation is life or death which is something that an American atheist doesn't have to worry about (not yet at least). Imagine if Harriet Tubman didn't sneak the slave out at night. She would have died the very first time.
@rationalwarrior The only way his actions could be strategic is if fooling them now would promise him a chance to kill all or some of them later. If Tubman had organised a bloody revolt rather than a peaceful escape, slavery might have ended in days. Captivity justifies blood. Unfortunately, the only thing anyone in Saudi Arabia CAN do is show that not everyone is willing to bow to fascists. His situation is dangerous, but sometimes standing your ground is worth ANY sacrifice.
@AdamRainStopper Hmmmm I'm not sure you taking in account how demoralized and psychologically damaged the slaves were. The armed revolt was tried by John Brown, his sons, and Nat Turner. In the case of John Brown he was a white man that had access to more weapons and supplies then a runaway slave would have ever had and he still failed. Mostly because there were times that he was snitched on by slaves. I don't disagree with you about revolt, I just don't think it was feasible at that time.
@rationalwarrior The demoralization was only furthered by the fact that it took an act of "emancipation" on the part of their captors to set them ....(clearing throat)...."free". Brown and Turner got it right, and the fact that slaves ratted them out (or any snitching on the part of a prisoner of any kind) is an example of the Stockholm Syndrome, and this is what keeps us all under the thumb of organized religions colluding with giant corporations to control the government, AKA Fascism.
@rationalwarrior I just wish history wasn't seen as a novelty. There are lessons in history, and they will be taught whether we as a species want to learn them or not. As many times as it takes, we'll be held back a grade to be shown the same hybrid of theocracy and oligarchy that results from compromise on our part. This lesson will repeat itself every time until we learn it. Slavery will never end until we ALL turn on our captors. Lets stop the Fourth Reich BEFORE it claims another century.
@rationalwarrior Also I should add that Rosa Parks was working for the NAACP at the time. She knew full well what she was doing. A similar event happened before she did it. A girl named Claudette Clovin (a NAACP youth group member) who also refused but this wasn't made public because she was pregnant and the NAACP thought that her being 15 and pregnant would undermine the protest. Rosa was a better fit so when she refused it worked better.
@0EndlessQuest0 Sorry to hear it's like that there. We in the US often decry how our rights as atheists are troden upon (and they are), but I'm sure that doesn't hold a candle to the part of the world you live in where your life and livelihoods are legally threatened simply because of your beliefs.
Damn it, RW, I'm working on a video right now that's very similar to this, though the word I chose was "rejecting" rather than "denying". You always beat me to the punch. Well, at least I can rest assured that intelligent people will be in agreement with me. lol, I swear I'm not copying!
Marvel comics, huh? You going to go with Spiderman, Daredevil, or Captain America?
Probably shouldn't quote Nightcrawler, though. Thor might be fun on an ironic level, but I don't think that most Christians could or would appreciate that humor, so... Perhaps Doctor Strange?
Well I happily quote from the Holy Scriptures of Monty Python, The Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, Red Dwarf, Blackadder and Babylon 5 if theists start quoting their texts to me. Wound up a couple of people good and proper doing that. Especially because they often think it is something religious and get snotty when I tell them its sci-fi or comedy.
If you don't believe the religious claims of living, contemporary jews, christians, or muslims, why the HELL do they think you'd believe dead, ancient jews, christians, or muslims?!
"God denier". This is why I don't like the definition of atheism which sometimes defines it as a "lack of belief in a god or gods"...sorry but I'm not lacking anything. There's nothing to
@retrogamerist Isn't that kind of like saying, there is nothing, and then saying you're missing some part or all of that nothing. I just think that the "lack of belief in god" statement implies that god is real and true, and that I'm just the poor little atheist who didn't get any of that god goodness because there wasn't enough left for me.
@Kolumaic "there is nothing to lack"...except BELIEF.
WE atheists/agnostics/skeptics are free to define THEISTS & SUPERSTITIOUS people as those who LACK (or are at least DEFICIENT in) the mental capasities for REASONING, LOGIC, ASSESSING EVIDENCE, QUESTIONING AUTHORITY, and ABSTRACT and CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS in GENERAL.
Clearly the greatest thinkers of the past, and present, have been people of religious & spiritual thought. Why? Becouse people of spiritual thought tend to make deeper decisions, based on a more complex internal diologue: from Sir Isaac Newton, to Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar and Sir Roger Penrose. These people had a very deep & rich internal dialogue indeed. However, this old story was best answered by one of Oxford's best (and the second president of India), Dr. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan.
@Nilerenth Really?? Aristotle was an atheist, Plato was an atheist, Socrates was an atheist, Pliny the younger and the elder were both agnostic, Josephus the Liar was a Liar......hahaha.. Isaac Newton was an atheist and Illuminati as am I. Sir Huxley and Darwin were atheist......... all of the Borgia popes were atheist. Most of the preeminent physicists are atheists.... talk about deep thinking... how many more would you like?? Most founding fathers were atheist, especially Franklin & Jeffer.
@Nilerenth What? Chandrasekhar was an atheist, Penrose is an outspoken atheists. whatever 'internal dialog' they had to become successful in their field, has nothing to do with religion or spirituality. I call belief in afterlife 'wishful thinking'. Neoplatonism is not a religion. it's a huge leap from spirituality to talking donkey and a personal god who gets upset when people build a tall house. don't bunch those things together.
@dasjotre Your comment makes me wistful, you have been checkmated yet cannot comprehend. Would you like to talk about the history of pauli exclusion for a while? ...NVM. Nor was a talking donkey the par excellence defender of Western knowledge & learning, yet Christianity was. The hindu term 'Advaita Vedanta' represents a goal, which is the goal of the Vedas; overcoming Maya is that goal, yet some people will remain stuck in Maya, symbolically or overtly.
well said, I think this problem can be highlighted by the youtube christians. In all of their 'about me' sections where it says 'books' almost every one I see has two words 'the bible'. They fail to see the problem with this :/
You know what would make the internet a 100% more enjoyable place? If, in the Bible, there was a commandment saying 'thou shalt not use the world wide web'. Then all the christians would stay away and leave the rationalists to progress human society in peace.
@soundslave lol, but then it wouldn't be known as the "world wide web" because some Christian would perhaps have noticed this and been like, "NNNOOOOOOOOO!!!! Don't call it that!!!" :)
@TheMidwestAtheist or they simply ignore it with some sophisticated excuses. or change the commandment, as the catholics did with the thingy about images. just as they ignore, re-interprete or even change whole bible passage they dont like.
@FranksVoice And I prophesise that when you're on your dying bed, any "end of days" or "Armagheddon" or "Jeebus" still won't have come! Hehe, they're just ancient retarded fantasies.: )
Great Video bro, much appreciated, one thing i have never understood is the people who want to show you the miracle claims in their holy books and accuse you of being insincere when you dont find it anything special.
They accuse you of being insincere, not seeking truth, not being honest and they want you to dis-believe evolution and so on and so forth.
The fkn irony of it all, become a truth seeker and deny reality
@FranksVoice I claim that giant space flamingos puked the earth into existence 10,000 years ago, despite what all of our knowledge of cosmology tells us. I wrote that claim down on a sheet of paper on which I also wrote that there will be people who doubt me. If you don't believe the claim, it therefor fulfills my prophecy of doubt. I guess that means the flamingo part is also automatically correct too because it's on the same paper, right? See how stupid your "argument" is?
@FranksVoice Frank, I want to thank you for bringing so many into the world of atheism. It is the ignorance that you and so many others demonstrate over and over again that convinced me that no god could exist. Yes, you have your christian friends that will laud you for your heroric defense of your god because of their own ignorance, who wish to hold on to some oral history as the "THE WORD OF GOD" Please continue to spout your crap, once in a while it brings a smile to my face.
Personally I quote evrything, from DS9 to Halo, if I feel the quote is relevent in any way. And I definately can stretch "relevence" to a high degree.
Self-fulfilling prophecies are not signs of god...
I also love how people say that we must have been created, therefore it must have been THEIR god... why can't people just say that they aren't sure, and that it's more probable that we have no idea how we came about? Why pretend?
I'm an atheist to all world religions. Religion is for control and monetary purposes only, just like big corporations. No difference except one has to pay taxes, the other, unfortunately, doesn't.
But a book that was written by some people to convince other people of a god wrote, "The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God'." There ya go, undeniable proof that all atheists are fools! And by atheists, but mean "theists who hate God".
Amen bro.. especially the bit about the fruits of science. If I was rich I'd open a hospital that only administered "biblical" medicine based on "creationist biology" right next to a conventional hospital and see how many creationists would choose to go there.
I like the Darth Vadar analogy. In The Phantom Menace was the prophecy that Anakin Skywalker would bring balance to the force. In Return of the Jedi That prophecy was fulfilled.
@FranksVoice That's a retarded argument. Of course the people who wrote the bible knew that there would be people out there doubting the book because the stupid stories in the bible are unrealistic. Aside from there being people in those days that disagreed with the book and that the end times should have been coming centuries before. TheAmazingatheist already responded to this argument in the "Dangers of atheism" video. Come up with another argument that hasn't been destroyed.
@DarkDeath100 Hmph If they have to try another argument that hasn't been destroyed they would have to just keep their mouths shut. Damn near every argument they try has been destroyed.
@FranksVoice I got some news for you. There were people like that in those days too. What an easy thing to predict. If that is your standard of proof then I'll give you a prophecy right now. I predict that you think that Muslims and Buddhists are wrong and going to hell.
@rationalwarrior Exactly. The "prophesies" are really nothing more than obvious possible scenarios. It's so easy to predict something so possible. Love the videos though man, the vibe and all is great. Keep them up!
well said, well said. I hate pricks like that. One thing my da says that annoys me when I'm dishing out good poibts as to why there is no god he says "oh well look around you" wtf you mean look around me, i look around me and i see science but i don't see god. Man christians are so stupid and so fucking delueded.
It's not convincing, but they get mad when *I* quote it, stating that I'm "taking it out of context" because the passage is not flattering. But theirs are fine. Blah.
Is that an Axiom25? I love that little controller! I use mine with Ableton Live 8.
Ben Grimm said unto him "Its clobberin time!" and his will was done. I just hope you realize this before you get smashed in the skull by a cosmic rockman.
Right, just one thing. It's not Atheists and Agnostics. Atheists are Agnostics and Agnostics are Atheists. You can't be just one. The rest I agree with. Sorry for being anal :D but people need to get the definitions right. Atheism is disbelief and Agnosticism is not knowing. You either believe and you know it's true or you don't know it's true or you don't believe and you don't know it's true or you claim to know that it doesn't exist.
I'm usually the opposite when it comes to christians quoting the bible. Instead of telling them not to, I say: Please (attempt to) quote the bible to me, so I can correct your misquote and/or counter with my own quote from the bible that contradicts yours. But don't be surprised or angry when I laugh at the stunned look on your face as you realize that an atheist knows the bible better than you do!
@rationalwarrior Try telling that to just about every christian I talk to. I don't know which is funnier... watching them react when I quote the bible or when I take out my bible and show them a verse instead of just quoting it. I think they expect me to burst into flames or something because I touched the bible.
@BibleThumpingAtheist I concur. If there is a god, why is it that Atheists know her majical multiple choice manual better than the faithful do? We also scored better than the believers on a basic religious knowledge poll a few years ago. If only we could think with our hearts as they do. Oh well, I'll just have to be happy with mine pumping blood and continue thinking with my brain.
@AdUtrumquePeratus76 Actually I agree with Carlin on this point. "If there is a god then it has to be a man because no woman would ever fuck up this bad".
@lautz73 I defer to Carlin’s sage wisdom and insight on that as well. After I've been condemned to hell as a blasphemous heathen a few times on the Darwin debates, I like to throw the occasional descriptor "She" in there to test the Faithfull’s preconceptions. It rattles their cage. Ironically, they think it's rude and insensitive. When I suggest that maybe it's rude and insensitive to women to think them so inferior that a female God is ridiculous. They shut up or get misogynistic.
Every creationist arguement summed up:
"My holy book says my god created the world. The world is here. Thus proving that MY god created it."
blackkakari 5 days ago
I don't use the bible as proof of God, i use it as evidence that if the "stories" were true, then God is a complete and utter cunt. Not to mention it is THE most contradictory book i have ever placed eyes on. It's like someone dribbled ink onto a page.
TomoHawKzZ 1 week ago
Ha! Just a "God denier"? I've been called the bloody "Anti-Christ". And you know what? If that's what you believe is true, then "YES I AM!"
HimesInu 2 weeks ago
Great video!
nahaymath 1 month ago
What i find funny , is when someone quotes the bible , you can find verse they don't agree with and ignore . When even the most devout believers dismiss large sections of a book they profess to be good , an perfect , it makes the whole thing null and void .
MrAtrophy 1 month ago
Hands down people this brother is on point! More vids please!
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Thinkdeep420 3 months ago
LOL I am going to favorite this and use it
iliveon 3 months ago
Lmao, I'm going to keep bug spray and spray the next religious fucker that knocks on my door. Good idea Warrior.
Severe777 3 months ago
@Norman7sev Science goes from evidence to conclusion. Y depends on the nature of X. In religion, the Y is already predetermined, and they just make up a whole bunch of bullshit "X". Science has always delivered results, both proving and disproving theories. Science has always produced results that progress technology. Religion has a habit of making BS excuses and producing jack squat for humanity. Welcome to real life man, results are all that matters. RESULTS. Therein the difference lies.
taiwanoob 3 months ago
@Norman7sev Actually...Science is the study of Nature...And sadly for us, we don't know everything about nature so we can't come up with an "Universal" Truth..we just don't know, but we're trying to get more and more precise. On the other hand, religion says that there is only One Truth..based on a story which we don't have any proof on (as far as I know :)
Science can be a religion if you don't understand what it is or if you use the wrong methods. But at the core, it's fundamentally different.
R4iko 4 months ago
I want to know what kind of headphones rationalwarrior uses....check out Denon or Ultrasone if you like bass
SuckMyHarryPotter 4 months ago
@SuckMyHarryPotter I use Sennheisers flat frequency headphones.
rationalwarrior 4 months ago
"there's no objective proof that a god exists." You're right, but here's the thing. If there was, it wouldn't change a thing. Objective proof of a god (not a specific entity, mind you) would only turn most atheists into deists or non-religious theists. At which point the same Christians who called you a God-denier would quote their Bible at you and call you a heretic or heathen or a believer in a false god. If Yahwah were proven to exist, they'd bash you for your denomination. It will never end.
finalsmasher 4 months ago 5
@finalsmasher That's sad but true.
rationalwarrior 4 months ago 7
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@rationalwarrior Someone once said to me "If you do not believe in a god you have no morality, no purpose". Oh how so wrong he is. It does not matter if you are religious or non religious you have a purpose in life to achieve what you set out to do. I am Gareth kendall and I am proud to be a Atheist :)
loudman12 4 months ago
@finalsmasher Not true. A deist believes there is a deity. If there is objective proof, there would be no reason to believe anything. We would have knowledge. Semantics, but I think this time it's actually important.
HimesInu 2 weeks ago
Excellent points as always. To answer your question in the video: I am an Atheist that has been accused of being a God denier. I have been dumbfounded trying to search for a reasonable response to people like this. Its so obvious. Thank you for articulating it.
TheCaptainD82 4 months ago 2
@TheCaptainD82 Thank you sir.
rationalwarrior 4 months ago
@TheCaptainD82 I've been called a god denier and a satan worshiper. It gets old real quick so I don't even engage them anymore. If a person can't or won't listen to logic, why waste my time?
ImmortalSpirit1 4 months ago
Keep up the good music......got a big audience just waiting to hear it. We're out here.
ImmortalSpirit1 4 months ago 2
Science deniers...win bro. Perfect term to shake the sheeple up. And your music is phenom, stay shiny.
Disemvowel 4 months ago 3
@Disemvowel You have a wonderful way of saying things. Love it! Peace.
ImmortalSpirit1 4 months ago 2
i love the interaction with your viewers man! your videos make my days go by, and give me the patience to ignore, or even argue with, ignorant people. Even though arguing doesnt seem to work, as they come up with more bullshit reasons.
Masterofkungyou 5 months ago 2
@Masterofkungyou Thanks my friend! I have really great subs and friends on youtube. They make it easy.
rationalwarrior 5 months ago 2
Awesome video... Keep the truth comin'! Take care, and dog bless ya! : )
moresnare 6 months ago
Very good video, well said!
resistnzisfutl 7 months ago
FL Studio! :)
thesnirz 7 months ago
And bring musical reinforcement more often, we need that to cool down after hearing too much stupidity... Peace,bro
VekinHighwalker 7 months ago
"and the invisible pink unicorn said:who's geezus anyway, i dont know the guy,nor i know his father but they're starting to get on my tits!!"
VekinHighwalker 7 months ago
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Theists who quote their holy book to people who don't believe it are extremely stupid. They don't realize there are people who don't buy it.
HybridD91 7 months ago
I need musical reinforcement.
216trixie 7 months ago
What bothers me the most with theists is this idea that all they have to do is prove God exists and their work is done. Not even close. Even if God revealed himself to me this very moment, that still doesn't mean I would fall down on my knees and start worshiping. I would technically no longer be an atheist, but I would not worship. I could never worship the insane jealous monster of the bible who inspired such verses as Exodus 21:7-11, which concerns selling one's daughter into sex slavery.
Haywerth 7 months ago
I like you musical compositions RW, you have talent. Where can I purchase some of your music
maborong 7 months ago
I hear voices in my head... they tell me people should stop quoting their holy books to me :P
Nidair 7 months ago
Don't quote your holy book to me . . . I'll quote it to you.
CalebAlucardtheHagan 7 months ago
@CalebAlucardtheHagan That's pretty much the truth, I don't know how many times I've had religious people start quoting the Bible to me, when it turns out I know more of what it says than they do. It's pathetic really.
burninmunkeys 7 months ago
@FranksVoice Awwww you're so sweet. Thank you Frank. I'll try not to write nasty comments on your videos, no matter how much I would like to sometimes :)
AuntieDiluvian 7 months ago
@FranksVoice If you loved me you wouldn't have blocked me **sob**.
AuntieDiluvian 7 months ago
@FranksVoice Frank - the last days have been going on for 2000 years. Jeebus was supposed to return in his apostles' life-times. Give it up Frank - he ain't coming back. Deal with it.
AuntieDiluvian 7 months ago
Agreed! Don't tell me I'm wrong by quoting words to me from a book which I obviously don't believe is true or relevant or useful in my life. And I've read the fucken thing so I should know.
AuntieDiluvian 7 months ago
Thank you. It's so FREAKING annoying when they do that. I've already stated that I don't believe a word your book says, so stop telling me what your stupid book says!! I KNOW. I STILL DON'T CARE.
ootdega 7 months ago
Quote some Marvel comics. That would be awesome.
OxTheWriter 7 months ago
The bible is why I became an atheist.
ristinraccoon 7 months ago
@FranksVoice Frank, I would like to thank you for being so honest about your beliefs and your justifcations for those beliefs. Rarely do we get to see someone share their justifcations for believing. Your words are a public testament to the irrationality of theism and Christianity in particular. Most people would be ashamed to admit that they think the fact that the bible "predicted" there would be scoffers is evidence of its veracity. It's a bullshit story Frank..of course there are scoffers
MrJmm999 7 months ago
Outstanding, you are GOD :)
You know, I'm an atheist from Saudi Arabia. I really don't care about religions because it's shit, and I'm not attracted to religion discussions because of the absence of logic and critical thinking, and eventhough they know that I don't care, the religious people here keep quoting their shitty Qura'an words to me, they think it's convening, and because I don't agree with them I might be killed in months "as an apostate".
0EndlessQuest0 7 months ago 29
@0EndlessQuest0 Wow. Dude you need to be careful and pick your battles.
rationalwarrior 7 months ago 11
@rationalwarrior I am rather surprised that you'd say to "pick his battles". Oppression by religion has been quite possibly the greatest bane to human existence, and in a muslim country, he is a brave and proud man who dares to state openly that he is not fooled by the irrational, illogical, unreasonable claims made about supernatural beings and eternal life. I might even call him a "Rational Warrior", wouldn't you?
Rosa Parks did not pick her battles. She was arrested, and risked being killed.
AdamRainStopper 7 months ago
@AdamRainStopper A competent warrior fights strategically. It does no good to rush in a like a bull in a china shop and get killed in the very first battle. His situation is life or death which is something that an American atheist doesn't have to worry about (not yet at least). Imagine if Harriet Tubman didn't sneak the slave out at night. She would have died the very first time.
rationalwarrior 7 months ago
@rationalwarrior The only way his actions could be strategic is if fooling them now would promise him a chance to kill all or some of them later. If Tubman had organised a bloody revolt rather than a peaceful escape, slavery might have ended in days. Captivity justifies blood. Unfortunately, the only thing anyone in Saudi Arabia CAN do is show that not everyone is willing to bow to fascists. His situation is dangerous, but sometimes standing your ground is worth ANY sacrifice.
AdamRainStopper 7 months ago
@AdamRainStopper Hmmmm I'm not sure you taking in account how demoralized and psychologically damaged the slaves were. The armed revolt was tried by John Brown, his sons, and Nat Turner. In the case of John Brown he was a white man that had access to more weapons and supplies then a runaway slave would have ever had and he still failed. Mostly because there were times that he was snitched on by slaves. I don't disagree with you about revolt, I just don't think it was feasible at that time.
rationalwarrior 7 months ago
@rationalwarrior The demoralization was only furthered by the fact that it took an act of "emancipation" on the part of their captors to set them ....(clearing throat)...."free". Brown and Turner got it right, and the fact that slaves ratted them out (or any snitching on the part of a prisoner of any kind) is an example of the Stockholm Syndrome, and this is what keeps us all under the thumb of organized religions colluding with giant corporations to control the government, AKA Fascism.
AdamRainStopper 7 months ago
@AdamRainStopper Very true.
rationalwarrior 7 months ago
@rationalwarrior I just wish history wasn't seen as a novelty. There are lessons in history, and they will be taught whether we as a species want to learn them or not. As many times as it takes, we'll be held back a grade to be shown the same hybrid of theocracy and oligarchy that results from compromise on our part. This lesson will repeat itself every time until we learn it. Slavery will never end until we ALL turn on our captors. Lets stop the Fourth Reich BEFORE it claims another century.
AdamRainStopper 7 months ago
@rationalwarrior im sorry RW, but u might have to say it 3 more times to 4 idiots LOL
TSPOWELL89 7 months ago
@rationalwarrior Also I should add that Rosa Parks was working for the NAACP at the time. She knew full well what she was doing. A similar event happened before she did it. A girl named Claudette Clovin (a NAACP youth group member) who also refused but this wasn't made public because she was pregnant and the NAACP thought that her being 15 and pregnant would undermine the protest. Rosa was a better fit so when she refused it worked better.
rationalwarrior 7 months ago
@0EndlessQuest0 Take care.... don't want you to be killed for your non-belief!
AuntieDiluvian 7 months ago
@0EndlessQuest0 an atheist in saudi arabia? i didnt even know they existed... you gotta get out of there dude :/
Ziggie1o1 7 months ago
@0EndlessQuest0 Sorry to hear it's like that there. We in the US often decry how our rights as atheists are troden upon (and they are), but I'm sure that doesn't hold a candle to the part of the world you live in where your life and livelihoods are legally threatened simply because of your beliefs.
resistnzisfutl 7 months ago
@0EndlessQuest0 yo, are you still alive my man?
iliveon 3 months ago
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0EndlessQuest0 7 months ago
Our ancestors understood the world through extrapolating from their own experience .... how else could they have done it ???
Technologeek92 7 months ago
Is that fruity loops on your screen?
Stuckherewithyou 7 months ago
@Stuckherewithyou Yes. The Ninth edition.
rationalwarrior 7 months ago
@rationalwarrior Nice, I only ask because I was screwing with autotune before work and our screens looked the same.
Stuckherewithyou 7 months ago
Not Convincing? Hmm. Ok..
ModernDayProphets 7 months ago
Are you saying Lord Voldemort doesn't exist? This is madness!
Lordgaraj 7 months ago
Damn it, RW, I'm working on a video right now that's very similar to this, though the word I chose was "rejecting" rather than "denying". You always beat me to the punch. Well, at least I can rest assured that intelligent people will be in agreement with me. lol, I swear I'm not copying!
DarkMatter2525 7 months ago 4
@DarkMatter2525 LOL Do it anyway! You will reach more people then me anyway.
rationalwarrior 7 months ago 2
Marvel comics, huh? You going to go with Spiderman, Daredevil, or Captain America?
Probably shouldn't quote Nightcrawler, though. Thor might be fun on an ironic level, but I don't think that most Christians could or would appreciate that humor, so... Perhaps Doctor Strange?
GoodAvatar 7 months ago
@GoodAvatar If I've said it once I've said a thousand times Thor is the only god worth worshiping lol
rationalwarrior 7 months ago
Great stuff..... theists need to just STFU with the bible shit!!!
JstNEarthling 7 months ago
Good video!
x5vampire5x 7 months ago
Well I happily quote from the Holy Scriptures of Monty Python, The Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, Red Dwarf, Blackadder and Babylon 5 if theists start quoting their texts to me. Wound up a couple of people good and proper doing that. Especially because they often think it is something religious and get snotty when I tell them its sci-fi or comedy.
Teloculos 7 months ago
If you don't believe the religious claims of living, contemporary jews, christians, or muslims, why the HELL do they think you'd believe dead, ancient jews, christians, or muslims?!
Rabboleth 7 months ago
"God denier". This is why I don't like the definition of atheism which sometimes defines it as a "lack of belief in a god or gods"...sorry but I'm not lacking anything. There's nothing to
lack.
Kolumaic 7 months ago
@Kolumaic Yes there is, I have a lack of unicorns but there are no unicorns.
retrogamerist 7 months ago
@retrogamerist Isn't that kind of like saying, there is nothing, and then saying you're missing some part or all of that nothing. I just think that the "lack of belief in god" statement implies that god is real and true, and that I'm just the poor little atheist who didn't get any of that god goodness because there wasn't enough left for me.
Kolumaic 7 months ago
@Kolumaic It isn't saying god is real, its saying that we have a lack of belief in its existence. Like I have a lack of unicorns.
retrogamerist 7 months ago
@Kolumaic "there is nothing to lack"...except BELIEF.
WE atheists/agnostics/skeptics are free to define THEISTS & SUPERSTITIOUS people as those who LACK (or are at least DEFICIENT in) the mental capasities for REASONING, LOGIC, ASSESSING EVIDENCE, QUESTIONING AUTHORITY, and ABSTRACT and CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS in GENERAL.
hardinmichael1981 7 months ago
Clearly the greatest thinkers of the past, and present, have been people of religious & spiritual thought. Why? Becouse people of spiritual thought tend to make deeper decisions, based on a more complex internal diologue: from Sir Isaac Newton, to Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar and Sir Roger Penrose. These people had a very deep & rich internal dialogue indeed. However, this old story was best answered by one of Oxford's best (and the second president of India), Dr. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan.
Nilerenth 7 months ago
@Nilerenth Really?? Aristotle was an atheist, Plato was an atheist, Socrates was an atheist, Pliny the younger and the elder were both agnostic, Josephus the Liar was a Liar......hahaha.. Isaac Newton was an atheist and Illuminati as am I. Sir Huxley and Darwin were atheist......... all of the Borgia popes were atheist. Most of the preeminent physicists are atheists.... talk about deep thinking... how many more would you like?? Most founding fathers were atheist, especially Franklin & Jeffer.
JstNEarthling 7 months ago
@JstNEarthling Yes. Also, you should be above such intellectual dishonesty. Are you for real, or just maundering?
Nilerenth 7 months ago
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dasjotre 7 months ago
@Nilerenth 'Clearly the greatest thinkers of the past, and present, have been people of religious & spiritual thought.'
No.
dasjotre 7 months ago
@dasjotre What do you consider belief in an afterlife and neoplatonic philosophy? If that isn't spiritual, what is?
Nilerenth 7 months ago
@Nilerenth What? Chandrasekhar was an atheist, Penrose is an outspoken atheists. whatever 'internal dialog' they had to become successful in their field, has nothing to do with religion or spirituality. I call belief in afterlife 'wishful thinking'. Neoplatonism is not a religion. it's a huge leap from spirituality to talking donkey and a personal god who gets upset when people build a tall house. don't bunch those things together.
dasjotre 7 months ago
@dasjotre Your comment makes me wistful, you have been checkmated yet cannot comprehend. Would you like to talk about the history of pauli exclusion for a while? ...NVM. Nor was a talking donkey the par excellence defender of Western knowledge & learning, yet Christianity was. The hindu term 'Advaita Vedanta' represents a goal, which is the goal of the Vedas; overcoming Maya is that goal, yet some people will remain stuck in Maya, symbolically or overtly.
Nilerenth 7 months ago
Hey man I've really enjoyed your vids since I subbed. Keep it up!
buffdaddy3144 7 months ago
@buffdaddy3144 I will....thanks
JstNEarthling 7 months ago
@JstNEarthling Wrong video for this comment sorry,.....
JstNEarthling 7 months ago
It's my policy to quote The Havamal in response to Bible passages given to me: "87.
Let none put faith in the first sown fruit
nor yet in his son too soon;
whim rules the child, and weather the field,
each is open to chance.?
saintmichaelsarmoury 7 months ago
well said, I think this problem can be highlighted by the youtube christians. In all of their 'about me' sections where it says 'books' almost every one I see has two words 'the bible'. They fail to see the problem with this :/
TheMundaneMadcap 7 months ago
Well fuckin' said RW! Subscribed.
elbowbiter1 7 months ago
Bring down the hammer,good job.Being part of the solution feels good in and of itself.
rickuj 7 months ago
DC is better then Marvel it says so in a Superman comic, so it must be true.
giren0079 7 months ago 2
But, but, but... the book is the only thing they have!
Ploon72 7 months ago
I believe in unicorns because books by Piers Anthony and Anne McCaffrey say they exist.
AnswersInNature 7 months ago
My bank account later on tonight LMAO!!! What it do Kakalak?
flawlessjewels 7 months ago
@flawlessjewels I hear that dumb ass shit LOL
rationalwarrior 7 months ago
You know what would make the internet a 100% more enjoyable place? If, in the Bible, there was a commandment saying 'thou shalt not use the world wide web'. Then all the christians would stay away and leave the rationalists to progress human society in peace.
soundslave 7 months ago 10
@soundslave lol, but then it wouldn't be known as the "world wide web" because some Christian would perhaps have noticed this and been like, "NNNOOOOOOOOO!!!! Don't call it that!!!" :)
TheMidwestAtheist 7 months ago
@TheMidwestAtheist or they simply ignore it with some sophisticated excuses. or change the commandment, as the catholics did with the thingy about images. just as they ignore, re-interprete or even change whole bible passage they dont like.
theheinzification 7 months ago
@soundslave show me a xian who actually didnt do what he/she wanted to do because its against one of these commendments.
theheinzification 7 months ago
Jesus appeared to me in a vision just the other night. Told me to tell Christians to stop riding his nuts so hard.
flawlessjewels 7 months ago 3
@flawlessjewels LMAOOO! What's good CJ?
rationalwarrior 7 months ago
@FranksVoice And I prophesise that when you're on your dying bed, any "end of days" or "Armagheddon" or "Jeebus" still won't have come! Hehe, they're just ancient retarded fantasies.: )
winterstellar 7 months ago
theists have to use their theology to assume the conclusion because their theology is inconsistent.
jjjohn 7 months ago
Well done. It's so funny when they start spouting the nonsense from those books as if some verse is going to magically make us see the light. lol
TheCurmudgen 7 months ago
I have a deal for theists quote your holy book and I will quote quantum theory or harry potter.
meleder 7 months ago
@FranksVoice you are stupid.
farvision 7 months ago
This is just going to bait them.
HouseKoumoray 7 months ago
@HouseKoumoray Maybe but we shouldn't be afraid to present our view. Everything we say baits them. Just saying you don't believe baits them.
rationalwarrior 7 months ago 4
@rationalwarrior Good point.
HouseKoumoray 7 months ago
Great Video bro, much appreciated, one thing i have never understood is the people who want to show you the miracle claims in their holy books and accuse you of being insincere when you dont find it anything special.
They accuse you of being insincere, not seeking truth, not being honest and they want you to dis-believe evolution and so on and so forth.
The fkn irony of it all, become a truth seeker and deny reality
shandcunt 7 months ago
@FranksVoice I claim that giant space flamingos puked the earth into existence 10,000 years ago, despite what all of our knowledge of cosmology tells us. I wrote that claim down on a sheet of paper on which I also wrote that there will be people who doubt me. If you don't believe the claim, it therefor fulfills my prophecy of doubt. I guess that means the flamingo part is also automatically correct too because it's on the same paper, right? See how stupid your "argument" is?
GrapplingIgnorance 7 months ago 13
@GrapplingIgnorance That will teach them to eat too fast!
AuntieDiluvian 7 months ago
@FranksVoice Frank, I want to thank you for bringing so many into the world of atheism. It is the ignorance that you and so many others demonstrate over and over again that convinced me that no god could exist. Yes, you have your christian friends that will laud you for your heroric defense of your god because of their own ignorance, who wish to hold on to some oral history as the "THE WORD OF GOD" Please continue to spout your crap, once in a while it brings a smile to my face.
ATCFDrummer 7 months ago 6
Personally I quote evrything, from DS9 to Halo, if I feel the quote is relevent in any way. And I definately can stretch "relevence" to a high degree.
every116 7 months ago
Self-fulfilling prophecies are not signs of god...
I also love how people say that we must have been created, therefore it must have been THEIR god... why can't people just say that they aren't sure, and that it's more probable that we have no idea how we came about? Why pretend?
I'm an atheist to all world religions. Religion is for control and monetary purposes only, just like big corporations. No difference except one has to pay taxes, the other, unfortunately, doesn't.
shadesters 7 months ago
Boom roasted
XlXKrampusXlX 7 months ago
one of their favorites is, you hate god!. an immediate facepalm. they just dont get it. thumbed up.
kram83au 7 months ago
@FranksVoice
1. Write a book with outlandish claims.
2. Write in that book that there will be people who won't believe outlandish claims.
3. ???
4. Prophet !!!
x86freak 7 months ago 14
@x86freak Haha yeah, like recently a stupid Theist said that I not believing in his book proved that his book was correct XD
hildegain 7 months ago
But a book that was written by some people to convince other people of a god wrote, "The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God'." There ya go, undeniable proof that all atheists are fools! And by atheists, but mean "theists who hate God".
Rationalific 7 months ago
I have a little crush on you, just a little one. Nice video.
scrubies1 7 months ago
Amen bro.. especially the bit about the fruits of science. If I was rich I'd open a hospital that only administered "biblical" medicine based on "creationist biology" right next to a conventional hospital and see how many creationists would choose to go there.
antonc81 7 months ago
Nice video. Worth a sub :)
Ansonidak 7 months ago
I like the Darth Vadar analogy. In The Phantom Menace was the prophecy that Anakin Skywalker would bring balance to the force. In Return of the Jedi That prophecy was fulfilled.
This proves the existence of The Force.
Ansonidak 7 months ago 2
I'm sorry RW but not believing in god won't get you elected as president of the United States...sadly.
Also, "science denier" is a brilliant turn of phrase.
mcrd2001 7 months ago
@FranksVoice That's a retarded argument. Of course the people who wrote the bible knew that there would be people out there doubting the book because the stupid stories in the bible are unrealistic. Aside from there being people in those days that disagreed with the book and that the end times should have been coming centuries before. TheAmazingatheist already responded to this argument in the "Dangers of atheism" video. Come up with another argument that hasn't been destroyed.
DarkDeath100 7 months ago 11
@DarkDeath100 Hmph If they have to try another argument that hasn't been destroyed they would have to just keep their mouths shut. Damn near every argument they try has been destroyed.
rationalwarrior 7 months ago 25
@rationalwarrior I personally think the "keep their mouths shut" idea is the best. But keep up the great videos.
DarkDeath100 7 months ago
@rationalwarrior and they never give up!
isisdron 7 months ago
@FranksVoice I got some news for you. There were people like that in those days too. What an easy thing to predict. If that is your standard of proof then I'll give you a prophecy right now. I predict that you think that Muslims and Buddhists are wrong and going to hell.
rationalwarrior 7 months ago 36
@rationalwarrior Exactly. The "prophesies" are really nothing more than obvious possible scenarios. It's so easy to predict something so possible. Love the videos though man, the vibe and all is great. Keep them up!
InferiorThanYou 7 months ago
Nice to see you back. Excellent work as always.
Corneilius5188 7 months ago
I've said it a hundred if not a thousand times. Quoting the bible or quran to an atheist is like quoting Dr Seuss, only not as fun or educational.
giglsdaclown 7 months ago
Nice video. Clarified.
prabhatpalpal 7 months ago
I like your delivery sir. I hope you keep making more videos. Peace.
erdnallewen 7 months ago
the reason people are quoting the bible is because christians believe that god can convict you of your sin and possibly bring you to christ.
Katsumotothesamurai 7 months ago
well said, well said. I hate pricks like that. One thing my da says that annoys me when I'm dishing out good poibts as to why there is no god he says "oh well look around you" wtf you mean look around me, i look around me and i see science but i don't see god. Man christians are so stupid and so fucking delueded.
7oy 7 months ago
Awesome little home studio you got
KeySour 7 months ago
god denier good one i guess that's me i thought i was agnostic or is it apostate i forget witch is it help
tomyhill123 7 months ago
I agree with you. What gets me annoyed more than the "god deny-er" accusation is the "god hater" accusation.
vampswagen 7 months ago
@vampswagen Right. How can I hate what I don't think exists? It's foolishness.
rationalwarrior 7 months ago 2
@rationalwarrior
hey, do you mind if i post this video on "Christians vs Atheist discussion board" on Facebook?
i think this can really get the message across to a lot of theists.
Mikeybetts 7 months ago 2
@Mikeybetts Go for it!
rationalwarrior 7 months ago
It's not convincing, but they get mad when *I* quote it, stating that I'm "taking it out of context" because the passage is not flattering. But theirs are fine. Blah.
Is that an Axiom25? I love that little controller! I use mine with Ableton Live 8.
TheOtherSide100 7 months ago
...bible somewhere else... (goddamn spellcheck!)
SuperDESTROYER71 7 months ago
Great video! Go thump your bible soNewgate else, Superstitionists!
SuperDESTROYER71 7 months ago
rationalwarrior you dirty blasphemous heathen.
Ben Grimm said unto him "Its clobberin time!" and his will was done. I just hope you realize this before you get smashed in the skull by a cosmic rockman.
mucura1 7 months ago 4
@mucura1 Aha! But you forget the Prophet Wolverine said "I'm the best there is at what I do" Thereby rendering Ben Grimm obsolete.
rationalwarrior 7 months ago 2
As an anti-theists do I need to stop quoting Top Gun, and Days of Thunder too?
Rotorzilla 7 months ago
Amen bro, good video great points.
FSMonster 7 months ago
pardon the awful sentence structure and lack of grammar
trig1211 7 months ago
Right, just one thing. It's not Atheists and Agnostics. Atheists are Agnostics and Agnostics are Atheists. You can't be just one. The rest I agree with. Sorry for being anal :D but people need to get the definitions right. Atheism is disbelief and Agnosticism is not knowing. You either believe and you know it's true or you don't know it's true or you don't believe and you don't know it's true or you claim to know that it doesn't exist.
trig1211 7 months ago
Did he just bust out rapping in the middle of this? Subscribed!!
kilroy227 7 months ago
I'm usually the opposite when it comes to christians quoting the bible. Instead of telling them not to, I say: Please (attempt to) quote the bible to me, so I can correct your misquote and/or counter with my own quote from the bible that contradicts yours. But don't be surprised or angry when I laugh at the stunned look on your face as you realize that an atheist knows the bible better than you do!
BibleThumpingAtheist 7 months ago
@BibleThumpingAtheist It's an established fact that atheists know more about that book then theists do.
rationalwarrior 7 months ago
@rationalwarrior Try telling that to just about every christian I talk to. I don't know which is funnier... watching them react when I quote the bible or when I take out my bible and show them a verse instead of just quoting it. I think they expect me to burst into flames or something because I touched the bible.
BibleThumpingAtheist 7 months ago
@BibleThumpingAtheist I concur. If there is a god, why is it that Atheists know her majical multiple choice manual better than the faithful do? We also scored better than the believers on a basic religious knowledge poll a few years ago. If only we could think with our hearts as they do. Oh well, I'll just have to be happy with mine pumping blood and continue thinking with my brain.
AdUtrumquePeratus76 7 months ago
@AdUtrumquePeratus76 Actually I agree with Carlin on this point. "If there is a god then it has to be a man because no woman would ever fuck up this bad".
lautz73 7 months ago
@lautz73 I defer to Carlin’s sage wisdom and insight on that as well. After I've been condemned to hell as a blasphemous heathen a few times on the Darwin debates, I like to throw the occasional descriptor "She" in there to test the Faithfull’s preconceptions. It rattles their cage. Ironically, they think it's rude and insensitive. When I suggest that maybe it's rude and insensitive to women to think them so inferior that a female God is ridiculous. They shut up or get misogynistic.
AdUtrumquePeratus76 7 months ago
Nicely said. Although Pookas are obviously real and not myth. I know you didn't comment on that but just in case you were thinking it.... >.>
TheTruePooka 7 months ago
@TheTruePooka Oh...well...yeah....of course Pookas are real......that goes without saying......(slowly backs out of the room)
rationalwarrior 7 months ago 3