On Hindsight Oprah may consider she made a mistake, even as a business Woman. Iyanla Sells "Own" right now. Oprah being the strongest Business mind of the two could have done things differently and taken Iyanla under her wing instead of persecuting her.
Oprah did not have to let her go. She could have seen Iyanla's desire and start to groom her toward that direction. If God said it was the anointed time it could have been with Oprah. The show did not have to air the next day. I think Oprah wants to always be in charge and anyone challenging her or trying to redirect her intentions will not be tolerated. Letting Iyanla go was not the answer. It was ego on Oprah's part. All she had to do was sit down and set and plan goals with Iyanla.
Both of these WOMBMEN are Leaders! Deep Wisdom. i don't think we can know what we're looking at here. you don't get to play at the Oprah level of business and not have situations like this. It all seems reasonable to me. i can see how this happened. the world still needs them both. they were life savers for me at one time. much love & respect! Amin53362
Both of these WOMBMEN are Leaders! Deep Wisdom. i don't think we can know what we're looking at here. you don't get to play at the Oprah level of business and not have situations like this. It all seems reasonable to me. i can see how this happened. the world still needs them both. they were life savers for me at one time. much love & respect!
Iyanla said, "I couldn't receive it...I didn't know what it was". That's the key phrase of the whole conversation. They were trying to groom her for a multiracial national audience and Iyanla simply wasn't ready. Unfortunately, she didn't know it and missed her opportunity, then. But what's for you is for you; and now she's sitting at the table with Oprah co-hosting the "Lifeclass" show on OWN. And, quiet as kept, Oprah also got Rosie O'Donnell from Barbara Walters! And the winner is....
First of all, good job ladies ! I agreed with most except to imply Oprah wouldn't have discarded someone if they were white. That's absolutely ridiculous reverse racism Blacks use against each other. It's an inferiority complex and if you believe that than you believe white people are superior. Oprah is the Chairman of Harpo! That IS HER company. She is the final decider! You better believe Phil, Oz, Rachel Ray, Orman, all of them waited until she was ready. Iyanla admitted she wasn't ready!!!!
And that ladies and gentlemen is whats killing the Negro race. We'll nurture Phil, Oz and every other kinda white person no matter how they piss us off and Im sure there were times when there was heated fellowship between Phil and Oprah and Oprah and Oz etc...but she was black and we still have that crippling stigmatism that says we dont want other negro's to achieve. God Bless both women and us all and lets learn to help one another black ppl please. We're killing ourselves here
i've never ever heard such bs in my life. when God gives us a gift its just as good as the gift of parenthood. None come with a set of concrete rules. gifts come with faults, failures, happiness and sunshine filled days but when your gift is birthed at whatever point in time God will see that its bought to light. Someone had to nurture Queen Oprah so Oprah should have willfully nurtured/mentored Queen Iyanla. maybe Queen Oprah saw Queen Iyanla as a good fit for her show but a threat as well
I like the brotha on the phone. Oprah is worshiped and I don't worship any man or woman on this earth. She is a corporate entity. Like Paul Mooney said, oprah is a danger to us(blacks). I know some of you are gone so I expect a negative comment coming my way. You worship your deity, like freemasons worship goats, and owls. She is a boule plan and simple. Just because you sprinkle sugar on sh*t, doesn't mean it tastes good.
In 2004, Oprah “gave” 276 people in her audience brand new cars. The cars were actually donated by Pontiac, but of course Oprah got the rush of publicity surrounding the event.
A week later, CNN Money reported that none of those winners could keep the cars unless they were able to cough up thousands of dollars to cover taxes. The $28,500 value of the cars was taxable income - the only way to avoid the taxes was to forfeit the car.
Oprah has also made mistakes & this is just 1 of many
Yeah you cant be oprah and not have a ego.I just wanted to know why oprah arguing with someone on her show thats a first.If the woman said I dont want to go with walters i rather have a show with harpo.So why would oprah take that as an ultimatum.But theres just one thing If oprah didnt offer her a show she shouldnt have expected to get one from oprah.Oprah was like B.walters said you could have a show but that dont mean i offered u a show and cause u turned them down u think Harpo gotta do it?
What Iyanla said was, "It was the anointed TIME, not the appointed TIME". Any whoo... My heart really goes out to her because she had no idea of how to handle that situation. But I do believe she attempted to force Harpo's hand in this whole matter. What I don't respect is how she brought God into it... Bad move anyway you slice it. I'm certain she's learned from this experiance.... She'll be alright.
Iyanla really messed herself up when she tried to force Harpo Studio's hand by telling them to tell Oprah " I'm the anointed one, not the appointed one ". If she would've been more patient and trusted Oprah that she wasn't ready yet and needed more time, she would have her own Talk Show still today. Her show would've been like a Mcdonald's Franchise with Harpo Studios and Oprah Winfrey being the Parent Company, or crutch.
@Solowizard i nicely disagree with some of what you said but understand where you are going but you don't put your trust in man or oprah for that matter over god... i watch behind the scenes of the oprah show every now and again on her network and oprah is the one with the ego... thats obviousfrom the things that come out of her mouth...
@TheAnitaSDavis - I have no idea where you're going with the God thing, but Oprah Winfrey is the BIG CHEESE of Harpo Studios and it's real easy to say she has an ego when in reality, she's running her empire.
Iyanla did have her own Talk Show. I remember watching it. It didn't last one season. It bombed, and she lost her house because, as she stated " I didn't realize I had to pay the same amount in taxes ". She lost her cars and everything else. She went into a depression and later tried to contact Oprah to get another chance, but to no avail.
Iyanla seems like the type of person that shoots off her mouth without realizing who it might hurt. In this case, her mouth ruined her chances of a Talk Show under the tutelage of Oprah, and her mouth ruined her marriage when she was originally on the show and told the audience that her husband "He broke! He ain't got no money".
Iyanla got too far ahead of herself, too arrogant and too big headed. She had a golden opportunity with Oprah and Oprah's producers was right on the mark in how they interpreted her saying " Tell Oprah I'm the anointed one, not the appointed one ".
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If I was Oprah, I would've told my staff to let her go to after saying that crap.
I just watched this episode today. Lets face it, Iyanla should have just owned what happened when given an offer she couldn't refuse. She jumped the start gun and then tripped at the first hurdle. Oprah probably could have spent time with her pointing out that she wasn't ready for her own show, but didn't. Still we gotta own our own stuff... then move on.
I just watched this episode today. Lets face it, Iyanla should have just owned what happened when given an offer she couldn't refuse. She jumped the start gun and then tripped at the first hurdle. Oprah probably could have spent time with her pointing out that she wasn't ready for her own show, but didn't. Still we gotta own our own stuff... then move on.
@dmdysart you didnt see part 2 i watch both tapings of the show at home she did own it up too at the end of her conclusion of she owned her too mistakes and she is better now!
HELLO QUEENS! I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY WHAT OTHER'S WILL NOT SAY ABOUT OPRAH WINFREY. SHE FOR YRS. HAS NEVER INDULGE IN POSTIVE CONVERSATION WITH AFRAICAN-AMERICANS ON HER SHOW UN;UNLESS THAT HAD A MOVIE THAT WAS TO COME OUT!! HER REALITY THAT WE DO STILL EXSIT HAS BE FOG WITH MONEY AND PPL. WHO LOOK NOTHING LIKE HER!! THE 'OWN CHANNEL STANDS FOR ..'OPRAH WHITE NETWORK' SHE HAS NO INTREST IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. TO THE SISTAH'S FROM A SISTAH THAT IS NOT BITTER BUT FULLY AWARE.JAZSOULJAH
Oprah thought she was not ready and Iyanla thought she was. If Oprah thought she was not and needed grooming so to speak. It would be Oprah's money that would be lost not Iyanla's. She seems to not take responsibilty for anything. She did not pay for insurance because she didn't like how much she had to pay. It was not her fault when she lost her house because the bank wanted her balloon payment. She made that plan. She thought she would have the money.
@Justtobelieve I disagee that Iyanla isnt taking responsibility... I believe that Iyanla wasnt prepared was uneducated when it came to the situations that occured in her life.
I agree with Anika whole-heartedly. Iyanla certainly has the right to navigate her own life without Oprahs permission. I think the ego in this whole situation was Oprah's, not Iyanla's
On Hindsight Oprah may consider she made a mistake, even as a business Woman. Iyanla Sells "Own" right now. Oprah being the strongest Business mind of the two could have done things differently and taken Iyanla under her wing instead of persecuting her.
PinkElephantTV1 1 month ago
Oprah did not have to let her go. She could have seen Iyanla's desire and start to groom her toward that direction. If God said it was the anointed time it could have been with Oprah. The show did not have to air the next day. I think Oprah wants to always be in charge and anyone challenging her or trying to redirect her intentions will not be tolerated. Letting Iyanla go was not the answer. It was ego on Oprah's part. All she had to do was sit down and set and plan goals with Iyanla.
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why did they cut that dude off?
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Both of these WOMBMEN are Leaders! Deep Wisdom. i don't think we can know what we're looking at here. you don't get to play at the Oprah level of business and not have situations like this. It all seems reasonable to me. i can see how this happened. the world still needs them both. they were life savers for me at one time. much love & respect! Amin53362
Amin53362 4 months ago
Both of these WOMBMEN are Leaders! Deep Wisdom. i don't think we can know what we're looking at here. you don't get to play at the Oprah level of business and not have situations like this. It all seems reasonable to me. i can see how this happened. the world still needs them both. they were life savers for me at one time. much love & respect!
Amin53362 4 months ago
Iyanla said, "I couldn't receive it...I didn't know what it was". That's the key phrase of the whole conversation. They were trying to groom her for a multiracial national audience and Iyanla simply wasn't ready. Unfortunately, she didn't know it and missed her opportunity, then. But what's for you is for you; and now she's sitting at the table with Oprah co-hosting the "Lifeclass" show on OWN. And, quiet as kept, Oprah also got Rosie O'Donnell from Barbara Walters! And the winner is....
Tritano 4 months ago
First of all, good job ladies ! I agreed with most except to imply Oprah wouldn't have discarded someone if they were white. That's absolutely ridiculous reverse racism Blacks use against each other. It's an inferiority complex and if you believe that than you believe white people are superior. Oprah is the Chairman of Harpo! That IS HER company. She is the final decider! You better believe Phil, Oz, Rachel Ray, Orman, all of them waited until she was ready. Iyanla admitted she wasn't ready!!!!
Tritano 4 months ago 2
And that ladies and gentlemen is whats killing the Negro race. We'll nurture Phil, Oz and every other kinda white person no matter how they piss us off and Im sure there were times when there was heated fellowship between Phil and Oprah and Oprah and Oz etc...but she was black and we still have that crippling stigmatism that says we dont want other negro's to achieve. God Bless both women and us all and lets learn to help one another black ppl please. We're killing ourselves here
pantaloom4u 4 months ago
i've never ever heard such bs in my life. when God gives us a gift its just as good as the gift of parenthood. None come with a set of concrete rules. gifts come with faults, failures, happiness and sunshine filled days but when your gift is birthed at whatever point in time God will see that its bought to light. Someone had to nurture Queen Oprah so Oprah should have willfully nurtured/mentored Queen Iyanla. maybe Queen Oprah saw Queen Iyanla as a good fit for her show but a threat as well
pantaloom4u 4 months ago
" Sistah Talk " is this an American TV show? need to work on ya background, looked like a church curtain ruined, so flipping dark !!!
kennylondon123 4 months ago
I like the brotha on the phone. Oprah is worshiped and I don't worship any man or woman on this earth. She is a corporate entity. Like Paul Mooney said, oprah is a danger to us(blacks). I know some of you are gone so I expect a negative comment coming my way. You worship your deity, like freemasons worship goats, and owls. She is a boule plan and simple. Just because you sprinkle sugar on sh*t, doesn't mean it tastes good.
whoelseknows 6 months ago
The caller did make a valid point as we know Oprah wouldn't diss those others mentioned.
fa1a2ha 7 months ago
In 2004, Oprah “gave” 276 people in her audience brand new cars. The cars were actually donated by Pontiac, but of course Oprah got the rush of publicity surrounding the event.
A week later, CNN Money reported that none of those winners could keep the cars unless they were able to cough up thousands of dollars to cover taxes. The $28,500 value of the cars was taxable income - the only way to avoid the taxes was to forfeit the car.
Oprah has also made mistakes & this is just 1 of many
lib4068 8 months ago
Yeah you cant be oprah and not have a ego.I just wanted to know why oprah arguing with someone on her show thats a first.If the woman said I dont want to go with walters i rather have a show with harpo.So why would oprah take that as an ultimatum.But theres just one thing If oprah didnt offer her a show she shouldnt have expected to get one from oprah.Oprah was like B.walters said you could have a show but that dont mean i offered u a show and cause u turned them down u think Harpo gotta do it?
HERBLANDZ 8 months ago
I really enjoyed the discussion. Good job.
sapphireangels7 8 months ago
@sapphireangels7 They Are more interesting than that crap on the view,they say some real things.
HERBLANDZ 8 months ago
What Iyanla said was, "It was the anointed TIME, not the appointed TIME". Any whoo... My heart really goes out to her because she had no idea of how to handle that situation. But I do believe she attempted to force Harpo's hand in this whole matter. What I don't respect is how she brought God into it... Bad move anyway you slice it. I'm certain she's learned from this experiance.... She'll be alright.
123nme1 8 months ago
I blame Barbara Walters.
ASIF247 9 months ago
Iyanla really messed herself up when she tried to force Harpo Studio's hand by telling them to tell Oprah " I'm the anointed one, not the appointed one ". If she would've been more patient and trusted Oprah that she wasn't ready yet and needed more time, she would have her own Talk Show still today. Her show would've been like a Mcdonald's Franchise with Harpo Studios and Oprah Winfrey being the Parent Company, or crutch.
Solowizard 9 months ago
@Solowizard i nicely disagree with some of what you said but understand where you are going but you don't put your trust in man or oprah for that matter over god... i watch behind the scenes of the oprah show every now and again on her network and oprah is the one with the ego... thats obviousfrom the things that come out of her mouth...
TheAnitaSDavis 6 months ago
@TheAnitaSDavis - I have no idea where you're going with the God thing, but Oprah Winfrey is the BIG CHEESE of Harpo Studios and it's real easy to say she has an ego when in reality, she's running her empire.
Solowizard 6 months ago
@Solowizard
yeah but people know that if you cross Oprah she is not the forgiving type. Just keeping it real.
tanio12 6 months ago
@tanio12 - That's her right.
Solowizard 6 months ago
at 08:09 WRONG!
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Iyanla did have her own Talk Show. I remember watching it. It didn't last one season. It bombed, and she lost her house because, as she stated " I didn't realize I had to pay the same amount in taxes ". She lost her cars and everything else. She went into a depression and later tried to contact Oprah to get another chance, but to no avail.
Solowizard 9 months ago
Iyanla seems like the type of person that shoots off her mouth without realizing who it might hurt. In this case, her mouth ruined her chances of a Talk Show under the tutelage of Oprah, and her mouth ruined her marriage when she was originally on the show and told the audience that her husband "He broke! He ain't got no money".
Solowizard 9 months ago
Iyanla got too far ahead of herself, too arrogant and too big headed. She had a golden opportunity with Oprah and Oprah's producers was right on the mark in how they interpreted her saying " Tell Oprah I'm the anointed one, not the appointed one ".
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If I was Oprah, I would've told my staff to let her go to after saying that crap.
Solowizard 9 months ago
I just watched this episode today. Lets face it, Iyanla should have just owned what happened when given an offer she couldn't refuse. She jumped the start gun and then tripped at the first hurdle. Oprah probably could have spent time with her pointing out that she wasn't ready for her own show, but didn't. Still we gotta own our own stuff... then move on.
dmdysart 9 months ago
I just watched this episode today. Lets face it, Iyanla should have just owned what happened when given an offer she couldn't refuse. She jumped the start gun and then tripped at the first hurdle. Oprah probably could have spent time with her pointing out that she wasn't ready for her own show, but didn't. Still we gotta own our own stuff... then move on.
dmdysart 9 months ago
@dmdysart you didnt see part 2 i watch both tapings of the show at home she did own it up too at the end of her conclusion of she owned her too mistakes and she is better now!
Kevin198898 8 months ago
HELLO QUEENS! I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY WHAT OTHER'S WILL NOT SAY ABOUT OPRAH WINFREY. SHE FOR YRS. HAS NEVER INDULGE IN POSTIVE CONVERSATION WITH AFRAICAN-AMERICANS ON HER SHOW UN;UNLESS THAT HAD A MOVIE THAT WAS TO COME OUT!! HER REALITY THAT WE DO STILL EXSIT HAS BE FOG WITH MONEY AND PPL. WHO LOOK NOTHING LIKE HER!! THE 'OWN CHANNEL STANDS FOR ..'OPRAH WHITE NETWORK' SHE HAS NO INTREST IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. TO THE SISTAH'S FROM A SISTAH THAT IS NOT BITTER BUT FULLY AWARE.JAZSOULJAH
JAZZsOULJAH 9 months ago
Do you think she'd be where she is had she not catered to white people?
andenisa 9 months ago
Oprah thought she was not ready and Iyanla thought she was. If Oprah thought she was not and needed grooming so to speak. It would be Oprah's money that would be lost not Iyanla's. She seems to not take responsibilty for anything. She did not pay for insurance because she didn't like how much she had to pay. It was not her fault when she lost her house because the bank wanted her balloon payment. She made that plan. She thought she would have the money.
Oprah is a business woman.
Justtobelieve 10 months ago 7
@Justtobelieve I disagee that Iyanla isnt taking responsibility... I believe that Iyanla wasnt prepared was uneducated when it came to the situations that occured in her life.
apuregem 9 months ago
I agree with Anika whole-heartedly. Iyanla certainly has the right to navigate her own life without Oprahs permission. I think the ego in this whole situation was Oprah's, not Iyanla's
blkimble 11 months ago 10
Love you ladies
weloveoprah1 11 months ago
Love this show!! Really good points by Deitra and all the ladies on the Iyanla/Oprah fiasco.
Bloorain82 11 months ago
great show, ill be a new viewer
mahoganyflame2000 1 year ago
LOVE THE SHOW
maverick7211 1 year ago
Thank you for doing ur show
readyael8 1 year ago
Wow. I have not saw it. Thanks for the heads up.
KemetMysticYAYA 1 year ago