It goes back to 83 or 84 at Olympic training and trials. Mike had lost at pool but wouldn't give up his stick. Evander is the one (at 175) that stood up to Mike. Everyone else was scared, except i guess Henry Tillman, who beat Mike and went to the Olympics.
krayazzyo how in the hell can you say holyfield ducked tyson im a huge tyson fan and tyson may have won or not back when but tyson pulled out with a rib injury and then went to jail the second time, and after tysons second win over ruddock the anouncer asks him do you want holyfield him and king say we dont holyfield wtf??
holyfield was a garbage drugged out fighter..he ducked tyson in the 80's and early 90's until they knew tyson was not the same after prison and being defeated by shitty douglas..holyfield knew he would not stand a change with mike up and coming..what a pussy to dodge mike and fight him when he was on the decline..
What? Don;t you know shit Holyfeild wanted tyson before prison they would have fought if tyson hadn;t lost to buster douglas, proof hoylfeild was never ducking tyson.
Holyfeild has far mor respected wins than tyson he was just hype knocking out glass-jawed bum after another.
@krazzyyo2 holyfield was a good fighter...he may not have beaten mike in his prime,in fact nobody could beat him until kevin was fired,but you never know..holyfield had beaten fighters even greater than mike had in his prime..so you never know...he is a respectful fighter,dont call him pussy...and a good man he arranged meeting in opra with mike to ell people forget about the ear..that interview there reall really helped mike psychologically..
@VanessaMouse84 ...I want to DEVOUR him even now because he just isn't afraid to say what's on his mind and he is a realist at heart! THAT'S HAS ALWAYS BEEN A TURN ON WITH ME....a man who isn't afraid to be what he is - "A MAN!"
@bcibibcibcpCB Best puncher in a technical aspect? Not so much. Bas Rutten even talks about Tyson in an interview stating that Tyson always breaks his hands in fights because of this. "Speed Kills" was the motto, not to mention just straight up raw, beastly power
nah he wasnt the hardest and ali had a faster punch, he wasnt the strongest earnie shaver had a better punch.. badd ass nut case who was the best in his era though !
shorter isnt a disadvantage it means u use it 2 your advantage by boxing quick on the inside... yeah he was 22 but there were better fighters in alis era and he was the best and would beat tyson or is be to hard to call !!
it doesnt if your fast and strong and can fight on the inside.. tyson proved that ! u fucking idiot !! being talls food for boxing only if u can keep fighters at bay with a jab !! spastic dont speak on an empty head !
u obviously havent fought at all besides ur only 21...and very retarded. if lennox was 5-11 he wouldnt have that advantage over tyson. all boxers know ur "reach" MATTERS A LOT, U SON OF A BITCH! now go WATCH more boxing as u havent even worn a fucking glove
only 21 ? tyson won the olympics at that age so shut up u havent a clue! 21s not young .. if tyson was in his prime he wouldve demolished lennox with ease, height tall or small hasnt a slight difference..
joe frazier, mike tyson, rocky marciano wasnt tall .. it depends on body build and speed ... anyone can out do anyone ... taller ppl have advantage in areas short dont.. works both ways
tall fighters can get as much speed power on the inside which shorter ppl can .. i find that an advantage if u can bob and weeve then get in side like tyson and joe frazier done.. u have the speed and brains height is no issue
me.. "go watch more boxing as i havent wore a glove" .. yeah because you made tons of sense there didnt you ?, nattt !!! , i hate spastics like you ...ive watched all fights in ali and tysons era !! height has fuck all to do with it ... speed strength accuracy heart is what boxing is about.. so i suggest you go grow some brain cells..i am 6ft 3 its more of a disadvantage when you have a person built like the side of a house and so fast charging at you on the inside.. few uppercuts ur down.
i like tyson but ali is better .. you think u havto be tall to be a great boxer, tyson proves you wrong 1.. and he beat frazier twice in rematch " after a 3 year lay-off" norton got beat after a rematch.. as for berbick and holmes ali was way out his prime and started getting parkinsons .. so go fuck yourself u really dont know shit
no retard, no. all am saying is that tyson fighting his clone but 2 inches taller would lose for sure, RETARD!!!so that proves height matters. u cannot make a comparisson when ur taking 2 different objects, idiot!
how would he lose for sure he would lose his mobility and strength on the inside .. u dont get boxing do you ?? height doesnt matter aslong as you use it 2 counter faster than a taller person can jab !! SIMPLE ! your just talking shit now i dont really care what u have to say any-more
shut up your just talking bollocks and went clean off the subject.. tyson was amazing in my opinion ali is better .. boxing height doesnt matter hence why its measured and weight .. good bye u mongofied spastic !
or you could join a boxing club you faggot.. put a tall person in with small if they are the same weight its a fair fight.. keep little person at bay with jabs your ok .. have a lil person attack u on the inside your fucked.. get a grip mate .. im not even replying anymore i will let you hoover up the shit coming out your mouth
haaha ok ur a girl, right? i knew it...u just talk like one. i knew u were gonna reply after u said u werent going to reply...wait, gay people do that too ahhaahahahah
@calbo555 thats true but what i said before if tyson had more reach hed be even better. u need another brain cell, retard. u dont know about maths, statistics or how to compare...thats ur problem. FAGGOT!
or your just a faggot i said height doesnt matter.. longer reach is an advantage and being smaller fighting on inside is an advantage so leave it at that
im pretty sure if u bob and weve u take a jab or 2 to get inside and then u smaller ppl gain the advantage as tyson and joe frazier did .. dont say owned u just sound gay m8 !!
@calbo555 being small isn't an advantage in anything. Getting inside someone's reach isn't an advantage either. The inside advantage is just a myth coaches use to make small fighters feel better.
what ever tysons trainer said made him feel alot fucking better then dipshit as he was one of the best champs.. inside fightings as much an advantage than jabbing with reach fool
Lol... name me one short armed heavyweight fighter then? And there isn't a single reason why shorter arms would be an advantage in anything.
Getting inside a taller fighters reach doesn't give you advantage, it just means now your tiny arms can fight at an equal level with his larger ones .... unless he takes a step backward. There's a good reason most heavies are 6"+. Tyson was a genetic freak.
exactly he has become world champ by fighting to his advantages.. tall ppl can slip punches they cant bog and weeve and basical squat 2 misss countless punches
and he lost from a smaller joe frazier . my points proved your a fuckin idiot seriously ! tyson adapted his height and made it as devastating as ali .. if tyson was taller he wouldnt have the same skills
he beat frazier twice retard .. my point is tyson and frazier were small and adapted there style to be the greatest .. ali was unique in every way ... height still has fuck all to do with boxing if u work 2 your strenghts as tyson and frazier did .. go listen 2 prince u freak !
because you said he was the youngest and i said it doesnt matter height and age of winning olympics doesnt have nothing to do with who was te best boxer !
the problem is most of the time boxers are not in their top at the same time. In 86-88 Tyson would have DESTROYED Holyfield. After 1990, Holyfield would have beaten Tyson. After 1995 and prison time, Holyfield almost destroyed Tyson.
And its the same thing, even worse with Lewis. In the 80's Tyson would have RAPED Lewis. but obviously in 2002 Lewis was too big and too good and Tyson was way too old and had lost too much skills.
I agree, Tyson would have raped Lewis because he is a fucking animal and a disgusting person. He would have lost to Holyfield in the 80,s too! Why do people go on and on about Tyson only having a 4 year peak?? All the other true legends fought way past their primes and still achieved amazing things in the ring! Why did'nt Tyson? Because he is not an all time great! Simple as that!
Holyfield in the 80's was not more than a cruiserweight. If you think Tyson in the 80's could have even lost a round against a cruiserweight then its your opinion but I dont think many people will follow you.
Tyson picked very early and rapidly decreased because of the death of his trainer, the problems with his wife wanting to steal his money and 4 years of inactivity that killed his last boxing skills. Tyson was mentally weak because he had a very disturbing and traumatizing childhood
I'm not searching excuses for some bad things he did, but you, in the other side are not objective at all. Because you find him disgusting, you deny his talent. Everyone has his flaws dude, even "Oscar" de la hoya was found dressed like a bitch in a motel... I find that pretty disgusting too, but I'm not denying his talent for that.
Dressing up and rape are totally diferent. Whats wrong with you? Everyone has flaws!!! So its ok to rape, its just a flaw right?
I dont care what other people think either, many people believe Holyfield would have beaten Tyson in the 80's too. If he put on weight, he would win. Simple as that! Holyfield went through all kinds of shit too but kept his stuff together. People have bad times, its no excuse to justify disgusting behaviours. Tyson was over rated.
you keep linking behavior and skills in a way that i dont understand...
and proves to you that he raped her? he always claimed his innocence and many people believed it. She looked like a golddiger a hundred miles away... and why did she agreed to go on his hotel room for ? to play videogames ? come on! its so easy to accuse a wealthy beast like that to get some money...
concerning who would have win between all-time greats debates are always endless, just matter of opinions..
Yes and we all know that a man with his wealth and power at that time would NEVER go to jail if he was innocent. Simple as that! I know these are matter of opinions that are endless when debating the greats fighting. But this is not up for debate. The man is a CONVICTED rapist.! What a pathetic statement you posted. HE ALWAYS CLAIMED HIS INNOCENCE ,LOL!! Of course he did,he's not going to own up that he raped someone is he??. To me he's an over rated bully, to you he's a hero. There you go!
I think u have 2 search more on the subject, but obviously you prefer to limit yourself to your dumb prejuges. His lawyer was bad, he used a very suicidal tactic arguying that she had to know Mike was dangerous because he was a boxer... very stupid defense. He never knew how to defend himself with words he never went to school, he never got education or love. But one thing he had was sincerity. He talked the truth, and believe me, by now he would stop claiming his innocence if he did it.
my boxing coach was the minder of mike tyson just about a couple of weeks ago, and theres a trail going on and mike tyson may be forgiven because the have found out the slutty bitch lied about the rape case... so thanks m8
Tyson of 88' TKO Holmes who was 39 years, 4 years later Holyfield goes the full 12 rounds with Holmes who was almost 43. People like to say he fought bums, Holmes went the distance with Holyfield and beat Mercer. Tyson had the talent but not the drive. I can't think of another Althete with so much talent and wasted it.
Tyson wasn't a true champ, if he had the heart and trained like the mid/late 80's would have gone down as a great but instead just a loser.
Not Brainwashed. Tyson beat Holmes( very good fighter at one time 48-0), knocked the crap out of him. That Tyson up to that point was a fighter. Soon after this fight Tyson lost it.
You can call Tyson rapist, no heart, fought bums( did beat Holmes, FACT) but in the mid/late 80's he was a really good fighter. Best ever NEVER ! He didn't have the heart, had no determination to be great later in his career only paychecks for his spending money on pot and anything else he could waste his money on.
The only 'name' on his record. I say 'name' because Holmes was way past it and his famous punch resistance had went. He lay stiff from an Ernie Shavers shot and woke up within seconds to get up. Tyson did not hit as hard as Shavers. To say Holmes was really good is an understatement. He was a legend of the ring. If you listen to the Tyson interview after the fight, he tells it how it would have been if they fought when Holmes was at his best. I never said Tyson had no heart either.
I say Tyson didn't have heart. No desire after about 88'. He did beat some very good boxers, some Olympians. Biggs, Tucker, Bruno, Tillman Spinks.
I think you have a personal hate for Tyson, sure he is a jerk, rapist and bunch of bad things, but in the ring during mid/late he was a fighting machine. He did fight some good fighters and KO them.
People I hear a lot say he was never good which is very wrong. I believe he beat enough quality fighters and beat them silly during his early years.
You write"If you listen to the Tyson interview after the fight, he tells it how it would have been if they fought when Holmes was at his best. ."
See what you wrote here. This is something Tyson in early years would say, He was still human there not some stupid thug. Once he was trained but after chosing the wrong path and getting back with his hommies and their style of life it was over.
Being from UK, you have no idea what a black person is like when they are in their Gangster ways.
He said something that person who is heavy champion says to others even if they know they were better. Reminds me of Maricano saying he only wishes he could be a great champion like Walcott after he knocked the hell out of him.
You will say excuses but the Tyson of early was not the one who screamed trash like "I'll get your children", just as his manners went so did his fighting abilities.
Did Ali fight Tyson like? No did he fuck, so what the hell are you going on about LOL!! Ali stated he KNEW Tyson hit harder than Shavers, LOL!! But never actually tasted a punch from him. Mmmmhhhhh!! Interesting! You cannot make a claim unless you have experienced it for real. It's like saying,I love that feeling of riding a bike, but never ridden one!! How can you make that claim? Simple answer. You can't! I love Ali, but he cant be taken seriously when he said that.
@OscarDanDan76 do i believe a cunt like you or one of the best fighters EVER PERIOD....a sfor havnt rode a bike...i do moto x and yes never owned a superbike but have been on many superbikes as friends have let me go on them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,bye bye faggot
@OscarDanDan76 ali is very smart he knows a puncher when he sees one..it also dont take an expert ot realise the speed and leverage tyson threw shots that he was hardest hitter ever.....shavers threw haymakers..woww.....tell you what even if tyson didnt throw a harder shgot than shavers he was far more explosive......heard the saying speed brings power...thats why tyson was so feared.hahha you aint a tyson fan, fine....but dont write shit you aint got no idea about...
tyson looked good physically but past his peak, but so was holyfield, the real truth is tyson was on decline before prison anyone who watches boxing could see it agianst razor ruddock mike looked poor in those fights and i think he would have lost to holyfield then as well but prime for prime iwould be awesome
Naa, he was in shape but past his prime by about 7 years. Remember that Tyson had been sitting in prison idle for 4 years before this fight, Tyson would have killed holy if it weren't for that
absolutely agree. Tyson wasn't tyson after prison. Im gonna' go on a limb and say Tyson wasn't Tyson after the Spinks fight. He fired his corner, stopped jabbin,movin' his head, boxing... That's when his decline began.
Dead on.. Once firing Rooney and hiring those "friends" to do his training really messed his boxing up, he got knocked down in sparring after he fired his corner
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tyson got raped in prison, facts, some former gang members spilled the beans after his released, that is why he was never the same person after, prison killed him, it's easy to see why he got raped, he got a babyface!
I think your allegations are based upon a misalignment of cerebrum constuct. Your assumptions, too, seem based on something else, perhaps associations (like "babyface") that are far removed from what most people refer to as reality. I suggest that you limit yourself to pure observation, without commenting. The world will be a better place under those circumstances, at least when it comes to assessments of reality.
wonder if he even thought about cus damado once when he became crazy liek this, cus taught him how to be respectful, but hes not in that stage anymore, bet cus is disappointed in em and moved on
God you don't get guys in this type of shape anymore except for the klitschkos and Haye. Tyson is under 6 ft he is well over 200lbs and the guy is still ripped and natural. That is dedication
Tyson is a beast, the best ever shame he couldnt fulfill his full potential over a career but he is a legend of boxing no doubt.
JacobsSilhouette 8 months ago
steroids added 20lbs of muscle to holyfields body
kingzula 9 months ago
Holyfield is an OG .. he dont even take off his shirt .. hes like fuck this shit ... i gotta go pray
hopelesscasewtf 1 year ago
@hopelesscasewtf bwahahaha
JMDinamitaMarquez 11 months ago
what i wanna know is how can someone dislike a weight in?
tokeypon 1 year ago
mike got titties.haha
veeseee128 1 year ago
@veeseee128 here u go again huh if he sucks why are u watching his videos
jabrightlefthook 1 year ago 2
@veeseee128 and hes also got a 4 pack
KN10SKILLED 10 months ago
It goes back to 83 or 84 at Olympic training and trials. Mike had lost at pool but wouldn't give up his stick. Evander is the one (at 175) that stood up to Mike. Everyone else was scared, except i guess Henry Tillman, who beat Mike and went to the Olympics.
aj31313 1 year ago
@aj31313 WATCH THE HENRY TILLMAN FIGHT ON YOUTUBE AND YOU TELL ME WHO WON, MIKE BUT THE STUPID JUDGES GAVE IT TO TILLMAN THOUGH
james86ful 1 year ago
i think mike tyson has multipesronality disorder. this is f-d up shit to have. he has a great talent
zuj1984 1 year ago
@zuj1984 TYSON BEAT THAT BEST FIGHTERS OUT OF THE 80`S ITS NOT HIS FAULT HIS ERA DIDNT HAVE MANY SUPER STARS
james86ful 1 year ago
krayazzyo how in the hell can you say holyfield ducked tyson im a huge tyson fan and tyson may have won or not back when but tyson pulled out with a rib injury and then went to jail the second time, and after tysons second win over ruddock the anouncer asks him do you want holyfield him and king say we dont holyfield wtf??
louie3275 1 year ago
holyfield was a garbage drugged out fighter..he ducked tyson in the 80's and early 90's until they knew tyson was not the same after prison and being defeated by shitty douglas..holyfield knew he would not stand a change with mike up and coming..what a pussy to dodge mike and fight him when he was on the decline..
krazzyyo2 1 year ago
@krazzyyo2
What? Don;t you know shit Holyfeild wanted tyson before prison they would have fought if tyson hadn;t lost to buster douglas, proof hoylfeild was never ducking tyson.
Holyfeild has far mor respected wins than tyson he was just hype knocking out glass-jawed bum after another.
403766 1 year ago
@krazzyyo2 holyfield was a good fighter...he may not have beaten mike in his prime,in fact nobody could beat him until kevin was fired,but you never know..holyfield had beaten fighters even greater than mike had in his prime..so you never know...he is a respectful fighter,dont call him pussy...and a good man he arranged meeting in opra with mike to ell people forget about the ear..that interview there reall really helped mike psychologically..
monosmouego 1 year ago
@krazzyyo2
Holyfield was signed to fight Tyson in 1991 when Tyson had to withdraw with injured ribs. He was then arrested shortly afterward.
Tyson was defending WBA champion when he fought Holyfield, who had looked awful in his previous 2 fights against Bobby Czyz and Riddick Bowe.
BruceinFalkirk 10 months ago
tyson is a god
Archafka 1 year ago
holyfield took steriods for the tyson fights and other fights
kingzula 1 year ago
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kingzula 1 year ago
it wasnt just don king it was cus, bill kayton , kevin roony, jose torres, and teddy atlas they all used tyson too
kingzula 1 year ago
mike was ready for this fight, in peak condition, but holyfield was more ready..
TommyGun7111 1 year ago
@TommyGun7111 because he took steriods
kingzula 1 year ago
...damn!..Pret de do ti sede MIKE TYSON'S 'pinga'???? I WANNA FUCK HIM!
icemeltsinspring 1 year ago
Tysons the best of all time in his prime he would destroy mayweather and manny any day
mrboyface 1 year ago
tysons body is the ultimate when in this shape.
jimpurdie 1 year ago
tyson looks so pissed
rudedude101 1 year ago
Is it possible to fuck this guy ?????
VanessaMouse84 1 year ago
@VanessaMouse84 ...I want to DEVOUR him even now because he just isn't afraid to say what's on his mind and he is a realist at heart! THAT'S HAS ALWAYS BEEN A TURN ON WITH ME....a man who isn't afraid to be what he is - "A MAN!"
icemeltsinspring 1 year ago
@VanessaMouse84 What?
hitmancoolio 1 year ago
@VanessaMouse84 ask him lol
artysm7 1 year ago
tyson 5.11ft
HENRYHOBBS1 1 year ago
mike tyson was average height and he was one of the hardest hitting of them all... there goes your theory.
mightyafrowhitey 2 years ago
Average height for a normal person, for a heavyweight he was very, very short. He was one of the best punchers ever, that's true.
bcibibcibcpCB 2 years ago 18
@bcibibcibcpCB Best puncher in a technical aspect? Not so much. Bas Rutten even talks about Tyson in an interview stating that Tyson always breaks his hands in fights because of this. "Speed Kills" was the motto, not to mention just straight up raw, beastly power
chodachampion 11 months ago
don king that disgusting jewish nigger destroyed mike tyson
may his soul rot in hell
HASSDICH62 2 years ago 27
@HASSDICH62 amen
kasim8t3 1 year ago
@HASSDICH62 haha true fuck that bastard!!
FightMang36 1 year ago
@HASSDICH62 yea totally what a cunt he was.
artysm7 1 year ago
@HASSDICH62
Please judge Don King by the things he said or did and not by he race or beleave!!
Sivlemaniac 9 months ago
yeah, your mother is really good
DenizG92 2 years ago
watch fedor then hes the like tyson affect
calbo555 2 years ago
youre an IDIOT
DenizG92 2 years ago
and u suck cock... give a fuck ?
calbo555 2 years ago
i very busy with fucking your mother
DenizG92 2 years ago
amazing.. heard she was good for the price
calbo555 2 years ago
Tyson is the best, because he had the hardest AND Fastest Punch, in the history of Heavyweight!
DenizG92 2 years ago
nah he wasnt the hardest and ali had a faster punch, he wasnt the strongest earnie shaver had a better punch.. badd ass nut case who was the best in his era though !
calbo555 2 years ago
@calbo555
you ass. Tedy Atlas said that !
DenizG92 2 years ago
and who the fucks that ? i dont tend to scroll fown and read every comment u spastic ! he must have a brain aswell then !
calbo555 2 years ago
tyson was the shortest and youngest HW champion. i guess thats not enough for u...
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
what does shit havto do with it ? muhammad ali was 6ft 3 and 22 .. second youngest ???
calbo555 2 years ago
when ur shorter its obviously a disadvantage and ...did u just say ali was SECOND youngest? so there u go...still not enough for u?
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
shorter isnt a disadvantage it means u use it 2 your advantage by boxing quick on the inside... yeah he was 22 but there were better fighters in alis era and he was the best and would beat tyson or is be to hard to call !!
calbo555 2 years ago
are u GOD or something? who gives a shit about something NOBODY CAN EVER PROVE?
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
exactly so shut your hole .. ali was a better boxer in my opinion and height doesnt have shit to do with it thats what im saying u stupid bint !
calbo555 2 years ago
height has a lot to do with it, retard. its obvious u dont box or fight at all, faggot!
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
it doesnt if your fast and strong and can fight on the inside.. tyson proved that ! u fucking idiot !! being talls food for boxing only if u can keep fighters at bay with a jab !! spastic dont speak on an empty head !
calbo555 2 years ago
u obviously havent fought at all besides ur only 21...and very retarded. if lennox was 5-11 he wouldnt have that advantage over tyson. all boxers know ur "reach" MATTERS A LOT, U SON OF A BITCH! now go WATCH more boxing as u havent even worn a fucking glove
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
only 21 ? tyson won the olympics at that age so shut up u havent a clue! 21s not young .. if tyson was in his prime he wouldve demolished lennox with ease, height tall or small hasnt a slight difference..
calbo555 2 years ago
yeah but tyson was a smartass and a talented boxer and ur a shithead with no life, retard...ppff...
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
me no life i just looked on your page your videos are shit/gay .... everyone hates you.. think u should go try get a life you cock rash !!
calbo555 2 years ago
U looked at my videos? see u have no life loooool
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
what is it you do on youtube ? watch videos duh and yeah the first few.. what do you do on youtube u spaz ?
calbo555 2 years ago
what videos? retard, i dont watch videos, im a hater
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
It's pretty well reguarded inb all fight sports that taller fighters when trained can hit much much harder than shorter ones.
Denver1928 2 years ago
joe frazier, mike tyson, rocky marciano wasnt tall .. it depends on body build and speed ... anyone can out do anyone ... taller ppl have advantage in areas short dont.. works both ways
calbo555 2 years ago
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Denver1928 2 years ago
i dont care i was arguing with the other mongo guy that u didnt always need height 2 be an amazing world champion boxer !
calbo555 2 years ago
@Denver1928 he didnt have a larger than average reach, wtf are you talking about?
izidro36 1 year ago
@Denver1928 reach wtf??? you ever see tyson fight?
MrCoolguy6273 1 year ago
tall fighters can get as much speed power on the inside which shorter ppl can .. i find that an advantage if u can bob and weeve then get in side like tyson and joe frazier done.. u have the speed and brains height is no issue
calbo555 2 years ago
me.. "go watch more boxing as i havent wore a glove" .. yeah because you made tons of sense there didnt you ?, nattt !!! , i hate spastics like you ...ive watched all fights in ali and tysons era !! height has fuck all to do with it ... speed strength accuracy heart is what boxing is about.. so i suggest you go grow some brain cells..i am 6ft 3 its more of a disadvantage when you have a person built like the side of a house and so fast charging at you on the inside.. few uppercuts ur down.
calbo555 2 years ago
ur 6-3 but ur retarded, dude. why do u keep comparing urshitself with tyson or real people? go back to the zoo, monkey!
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
yeah im retarded .. face facts your a retard and wrong.. boxing has nothing to with height and muhammad ali was the greatest !
calbo555 2 years ago
Frazier, Norton, Leon Spinks, Holmes and Trevor Berbick beat your greatest, retard. U just hate Tyson...u must be VERY gay
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
i like tyson but ali is better .. you think u havto be tall to be a great boxer, tyson proves you wrong 1.. and he beat frazier twice in rematch " after a 3 year lay-off" norton got beat after a rematch.. as for berbick and holmes ali was way out his prime and started getting parkinsons .. so go fuck yourself u really dont know shit
calbo555 2 years ago
no retard, no. all am saying is that tyson fighting his clone but 2 inches taller would lose for sure, RETARD!!!so that proves height matters. u cannot make a comparisson when ur taking 2 different objects, idiot!
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
how would he lose for sure he would lose his mobility and strength on the inside .. u dont get boxing do you ?? height doesnt matter aslong as you use it 2 counter faster than a taller person can jab !! SIMPLE ! your just talking shit now i dont really care what u have to say any-more
calbo555 2 years ago
if its a clone it KEEPS the same mobility and everyting but height, retard!! go back to school
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
shut up your just talking bollocks and went clean off the subject.. tyson was amazing in my opinion ali is better .. boxing height doesnt matter hence why its measured and weight .. good bye u mongofied spastic !
calbo555 2 years ago
weight yes and always refer to REACH, retard!!!
ask any boxer or , as ur a kid with no life, go ask in any boxing forum.
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
or you could join a boxing club you faggot.. put a tall person in with small if they are the same weight its a fair fight.. keep little person at bay with jabs your ok .. have a lil person attack u on the inside your fucked.. get a grip mate .. im not even replying anymore i will let you hoover up the shit coming out your mouth
calbo555 2 years ago
i train every week. been doing martial arts for 29 years, retard.
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
sure you havent learned much... have fun playing computer ..
calbo555 2 years ago
haaha ok ur a girl, right? i knew it...u just talk like one. i knew u were gonna reply after u said u werent going to reply...wait, gay people do that too ahhaahahahah
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
cool your wat coool
calbo555 2 years ago
hey my girlfriend has a gay friend but he doesnt like ghetto monkeys...hard luck!
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
im white
calbo555 2 years ago
ur white? retard u can be green or purple. u will always be a ghetto monkey, u fascist gobshite!
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
nah no guettos or monkeys here. braindead person who knows nothing about boxing thats about it !
calbo555 2 years ago
@calbo555 IM talking about YOU, monkey, not whats around u, idiot
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
talk so much shit ! just admit your a fool
calbo555 2 years ago
REACH is an issue, retard. ask any boxer. ur wrong and u hate to admit it, asshole son of a bitch
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
its a problem if u cant get 2 punch inside but as tyson proves you dont need height to be world champiuon.. so how the fuck am i wrong ?
calbo555 2 years ago
@calbo555 thats true but what i said before if tyson had more reach hed be even better. u need another brain cell, retard. u dont know about maths, statistics or how to compare...thats ur problem. FAGGOT!
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
or your just a faggot i said height doesnt matter.. longer reach is an advantage and being smaller fighting on inside is an advantage so leave it at that
calbo555 2 years ago
to go in the inside u need to avoid the long distance, retard. avoiding means reach is important,,,,owned!
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
im pretty sure if u bob and weve u take a jab or 2 to get inside and then u smaller ppl gain the advantage as tyson and joe frazier did .. dont say owned u just sound gay m8 !!
calbo555 2 years ago
@calbo555 being small isn't an advantage in anything. Getting inside someone's reach isn't an advantage either. The inside advantage is just a myth coaches use to make small fighters feel better.
Denver1928 2 years ago
what ever tysons trainer said made him feel alot fucking better then dipshit as he was one of the best champs.. inside fightings as much an advantage than jabbing with reach fool
calbo555 2 years ago
@giugnggbvinierngvb89
Him taller
True he would be better
But we can't be sure
His accustomed to his height
His boxing style is fit for his height
Him taller may force change in his style dramatically
sukarestu 2 years ago
@sukarestu true
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
sukarestu is correct .. u and denver are basically reatarded as each other
calbo555 2 years ago
sukaretsu is correct, reach is an issue and ur so retarded u cannot even read
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
@calbo555
Lol... name me one short armed heavyweight fighter then? And there isn't a single reason why shorter arms would be an advantage in anything.
Getting inside a taller fighters reach doesn't give you advantage, it just means now your tiny arms can fight at an equal level with his larger ones .... unless he takes a step backward. There's a good reason most heavies are 6"+. Tyson was a genetic freak.
Denver1928 2 years ago
exactly he has become world champ by fighting to his advantages.. tall ppl can slip punches they cant bog and weeve and basical squat 2 misss countless punches
calbo555 2 years ago
so what? its about winning and ali won a few because of his reach, retard!
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
and he lost from a smaller joe frazier . my points proved your a fuckin idiot seriously ! tyson adapted his height and made it as devastating as ali .. if tyson was taller he wouldnt have the same skills
calbo555 2 years ago
and he beat frazier in manila..so wheres ur point, retard?
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
he beat frazier twice retard .. my point is tyson and frazier were small and adapted there style to be the greatest .. ali was unique in every way ... height still has fuck all to do with boxing if u work 2 your strenghts as tyson and frazier did .. go listen 2 prince u freak !
calbo555 2 years ago
so u contradict urself and u dont even realise? HAHAHAHAHAHA....go fuck ur boyfriend, flamer boy
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
howd i contradict myself batty boy ?
calbo555 2 years ago
just go back to waht u said, mr fag retard
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
it doesnt matter what age u were when u win the olympics its overall fighter aswell u idiot !!
calbo555 2 years ago
if it doesnt matter TO YOU, why did YOU say ali was second youngest?
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
because you said he was the youngest and i said it doesnt matter height and age of winning olympics doesnt have nothing to do with who was te best boxer !
calbo555 2 years ago
what olympics are u talking about, retard?
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
ROFLLL
sejump 2 years ago
Lol check out Mikes draws they have love hearts allover.
MrBinieam 2 years ago
lol oscardandan is messing again. what a faggot.
ercrap 2 years ago
Leave me alone you creep, just leave me alone!!!
OscarDanDan76 2 years ago
Foreman, Shavers then maybe Tyson.
Thats how I see the biggest heavyweight punchers.
How have I got no idea about shit?
Becasue I dont agree with you big headed fucking pedo!! Stop PM'ing me with your filth. you disgust me!!
OscarDanDan76 2 years ago
manny
me1we1 2 years ago
the problem is most of the time boxers are not in their top at the same time. In 86-88 Tyson would have DESTROYED Holyfield. After 1990, Holyfield would have beaten Tyson. After 1995 and prison time, Holyfield almost destroyed Tyson.
And its the same thing, even worse with Lewis. In the 80's Tyson would have RAPED Lewis. but obviously in 2002 Lewis was too big and too good and Tyson was way too old and had lost too much skills.
Alltimeboxing 2 years ago 6
I agree, Tyson would have raped Lewis because he is a fucking animal and a disgusting person. He would have lost to Holyfield in the 80,s too! Why do people go on and on about Tyson only having a 4 year peak?? All the other true legends fought way past their primes and still achieved amazing things in the ring! Why did'nt Tyson? Because he is not an all time great! Simple as that!
OscarDanDan76 2 years ago
Holyfield in the 80's was not more than a cruiserweight. If you think Tyson in the 80's could have even lost a round against a cruiserweight then its your opinion but I dont think many people will follow you.
Tyson picked very early and rapidly decreased because of the death of his trainer, the problems with his wife wanting to steal his money and 4 years of inactivity that killed his last boxing skills. Tyson was mentally weak because he had a very disturbing and traumatizing childhood
Alltimeboxing 2 years ago
I'm not searching excuses for some bad things he did, but you, in the other side are not objective at all. Because you find him disgusting, you deny his talent. Everyone has his flaws dude, even "Oscar" de la hoya was found dressed like a bitch in a motel... I find that pretty disgusting too, but I'm not denying his talent for that.
Alltimeboxing 2 years ago
Dressing up and rape are totally diferent. Whats wrong with you? Everyone has flaws!!! So its ok to rape, its just a flaw right?
I dont care what other people think either, many people believe Holyfield would have beaten Tyson in the 80's too. If he put on weight, he would win. Simple as that! Holyfield went through all kinds of shit too but kept his stuff together. People have bad times, its no excuse to justify disgusting behaviours. Tyson was over rated.
OscarDanDan76 2 years ago
you keep linking behavior and skills in a way that i dont understand...
and proves to you that he raped her? he always claimed his innocence and many people believed it. She looked like a golddiger a hundred miles away... and why did she agreed to go on his hotel room for ? to play videogames ? come on! its so easy to accuse a wealthy beast like that to get some money...
concerning who would have win between all-time greats debates are always endless, just matter of opinions..
Alltimeboxing 2 years ago
Yes and we all know that a man with his wealth and power at that time would NEVER go to jail if he was innocent. Simple as that! I know these are matter of opinions that are endless when debating the greats fighting. But this is not up for debate. The man is a CONVICTED rapist.! What a pathetic statement you posted. HE ALWAYS CLAIMED HIS INNOCENCE ,LOL!! Of course he did,he's not going to own up that he raped someone is he??. To me he's an over rated bully, to you he's a hero. There you go!
OscarDanDan76 2 years ago
I think u have 2 search more on the subject, but obviously you prefer to limit yourself to your dumb prejuges. His lawyer was bad, he used a very suicidal tactic arguying that she had to know Mike was dangerous because he was a boxer... very stupid defense. He never knew how to defend himself with words he never went to school, he never got education or love. But one thing he had was sincerity. He talked the truth, and believe me, by now he would stop claiming his innocence if he did it.
Alltimeboxing 2 years ago
and by the way, black new-wealthy men are sent to jail more often that you seem to think dude.
Alltimeboxing 2 years ago
YAWN!!! Are you finished?
OscarDanDan76 2 years ago
my boxing coach was the minder of mike tyson just about a couple of weeks ago, and theres a trail going on and mike tyson may be forgiven because the have found out the slutty bitch lied about the rape case... so thanks m8
RsRoT 2 years ago
Why are you calling me mate and thanking me?
Was the altercation with the girl in his youth a mistake too?
OscarDanDan76 2 years ago
Tyson of 88' TKO Holmes who was 39 years, 4 years later Holyfield goes the full 12 rounds with Holmes who was almost 43. People like to say he fought bums, Holmes went the distance with Holyfield and beat Mercer. Tyson had the talent but not the drive. I can't think of another Althete with so much talent and wasted it.
Tyson wasn't a true champ, if he had the heart and trained like the mid/late 80's would have gone down as a great but instead just a loser.
Tampa370 2 years ago
Holyfield had a nack of not getting up for certain fights and he does'nt hit anywhere near as hard as Tyson.
Stilll brainwashed I see. Look at his pro record! Its littered with shit fighters. Simple as that!
OscarDanDan76 2 years ago
Not Brainwashed. Tyson beat Holmes( very good fighter at one time 48-0), knocked the crap out of him. That Tyson up to that point was a fighter. Soon after this fight Tyson lost it.
You can call Tyson rapist, no heart, fought bums( did beat Holmes, FACT) but in the mid/late 80's he was a really good fighter. Best ever NEVER ! He didn't have the heart, had no determination to be great later in his career only paychecks for his spending money on pot and anything else he could waste his money on.
Tampa370 2 years ago
The only 'name' on his record. I say 'name' because Holmes was way past it and his famous punch resistance had went. He lay stiff from an Ernie Shavers shot and woke up within seconds to get up. Tyson did not hit as hard as Shavers. To say Holmes was really good is an understatement. He was a legend of the ring. If you listen to the Tyson interview after the fight, he tells it how it would have been if they fought when Holmes was at his best. I never said Tyson had no heart either.
OscarDanDan76 2 years ago
I say Tyson didn't have heart. No desire after about 88'. He did beat some very good boxers, some Olympians. Biggs, Tucker, Bruno, Tillman Spinks.
I think you have a personal hate for Tyson, sure he is a jerk, rapist and bunch of bad things, but in the ring during mid/late he was a fighting machine. He did fight some good fighters and KO them.
People I hear a lot say he was never good which is very wrong. I believe he beat enough quality fighters and beat them silly during his early years.
Tampa370 2 years ago
You write"If you listen to the Tyson interview after the fight, he tells it how it would have been if they fought when Holmes was at his best. ."
See what you wrote here. This is something Tyson in early years would say, He was still human there not some stupid thug. Once he was trained but after chosing the wrong path and getting back with his hommies and their style of life it was over.
Tampa370 2 years ago
LOL!! Is he not human now like??
He spoke the truth, thats all he did.
Excuses, excuses. Boring!
OscarDanDan76 2 years ago
Being from UK, you have no idea what a black person is like when they are in their Gangster ways.
He said something that person who is heavy champion says to others even if they know they were better. Reminds me of Maricano saying he only wishes he could be a great champion like Walcott after he knocked the hell out of him.
You will say excuses but the Tyson of early was not the one who screamed trash like "I'll get your children", just as his manners went so did his fighting abilities.
Tampa370 2 years ago
LOL, keep it coming!
OscarDanDan76 2 years ago
@OscarDanDan76 haha yes he fucking did..ali said himself.....AND TYSON THREW COMBOS FASTER AND HARDER THAN ANY HEAVY FROM ANY ERA////fact
wr1swd84 2 years ago 2
@wr1swd84 Ali said what?
Did Ali fight Tyson like? No did he fuck, so what the hell are you going on about LOL!! Ali stated he KNEW Tyson hit harder than Shavers, LOL!! But never actually tasted a punch from him. Mmmmhhhhh!! Interesting! You cannot make a claim unless you have experienced it for real. It's like saying,I love that feeling of riding a bike, but never ridden one!! How can you make that claim? Simple answer. You can't! I love Ali, but he cant be taken seriously when he said that.
OscarDanDan76 2 years ago
@OscarDanDan76 do i believe a cunt like you or one of the best fighters EVER PERIOD....a sfor havnt rode a bike...i do moto x and yes never owned a superbike but have been on many superbikes as friends have let me go on them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,bye bye faggot
wr1swd84 2 years ago
@OscarDanDan76 ali is very smart he knows a puncher when he sees one..it also dont take an expert ot realise the speed and leverage tyson threw shots that he was hardest hitter ever.....shavers threw haymakers..woww.....tell you what even if tyson didnt throw a harder shgot than shavers he was far more explosive......heard the saying speed brings power...thats why tyson was so feared.hahha you aint a tyson fan, fine....but dont write shit you aint got no idea about...
wr1swd84 2 years ago 2
Yawn!!! (burp)
What was that??
OscarDanDan76 2 years ago
@OscarDanDan76 your a pedo and im reporting you...
wr1swd84 2 years ago
Oh, fuck...It's you again : (
I've just remembered who you are : (
OscarDanDan76 2 years ago
if only that fight could have happened in 1990 would have been a hell of a scrap Pacdog!
andrew141272 2 years ago 2
tyson looked good physically but past his peak, but so was holyfield, the real truth is tyson was on decline before prison anyone who watches boxing could see it agianst razor ruddock mike looked poor in those fights and i think he would have lost to holyfield then as well but prime for prime iwould be awesome
pacdog1978 2 years ago 2
Could'nt agree more.He was stationary against Ruddock and when Mike did'nt have his feets he was ordinary.
But in his prime(however short it was)-what a fighter!
swedishtysonfan 2 years ago
You never seen all of Tysons fights when he was still good he was ripped to shreds way befor this match.
HEATKING826 2 years ago
LOL MIKE TYSON BOXERS !
tinyGhost17 2 years ago
man i remember when dat man will knock ya shit off ya shoulders lol IRON MIKE BABY
deedooc 2 years ago
The best shape Mike was ever in in my opinion. 218 pounds and cut to shreds.
jbranham23 2 years ago
Naa, he was in shape but past his prime by about 7 years. Remember that Tyson had been sitting in prison idle for 4 years before this fight, Tyson would have killed holy if it weren't for that
speakerman1818 2 years ago
absolutely agree. Tyson wasn't tyson after prison. Im gonna' go on a limb and say Tyson wasn't Tyson after the Spinks fight. He fired his corner, stopped jabbin,movin' his head, boxing... That's when his decline began.
Masterarium 2 years ago 7
Dead on.. Once firing Rooney and hiring those "friends" to do his training really messed his boxing up, he got knocked down in sparring after he fired his corner
speakerman1818 2 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
tyson got raped in prison, facts, some former gang members spilled the beans after his released, that is why he was never the same person after, prison killed him, it's easy to see why he got raped, he got a babyface!
strongbadassman 2 years ago
strongbadassman,
I think your allegations are based upon a misalignment of cerebrum constuct. Your assumptions, too, seem based on something else, perhaps associations (like "babyface") that are far removed from what most people refer to as reality. I suggest that you limit yourself to pure observation, without commenting. The world will be a better place under those circumstances, at least when it comes to assessments of reality.
lazurm 2 years ago
yeah,, i dont remember him being that ripped and he was fucking ready for that fight and must of trained his ass off for that one......
wuckit 2 years ago
Mike Tyson is a legend!!!
I love you Mike!
kingstyle89 2 years ago 2
i don't like Holyfield, I LOVE MIKE TYSON!!!
mountini 2 years ago 4
wonder if he even thought about cus damado once when he became crazy liek this, cus taught him how to be respectful, but hes not in that stage anymore, bet cus is disappointed in em and moved on
926531 2 years ago
God you don't get guys in this type of shape anymore except for the klitschkos and Haye. Tyson is under 6 ft he is well over 200lbs and the guy is still ripped and natural. That is dedication
bpatrice49 2 years ago
well he weighed 200lbs when he was 13 so he's just a naturally muscular guy.
drav6 2 years ago
Evander looks awesome no wonder he won
jpjames1 2 years ago