Nice! It reminds me a lot of Yamashita Bo Nidan. The big difference is part where your feet comes together where Yamashita's is a cat stance and low outside blocking motion. What is the application is in this version where the feet come together?
What most impress me on your kata is from the ready position (bo horizontal to the body) you do not move the arm across your face (which blocks the view and exposes the heart area etc.) as you see many practicioners do now. Great performance .
@OkinawaShorinryu There is a simple bunkai behind that. One would often stand guard for longer periods of time and having the arm positioned that way blocks the sun :)
@Naraku1987 This isn't a sentry and beside that your eyes would not ajust that fast from the sun and that brief period of covering your sight may get you killed. These were common folks that used bo, sai etc.
I learned this kata many years ago but none of us knew the real name. Chandler Kyoshi watched me demo it on one of his visits and his only comments were "that's not one of our kata"
It's a fun kata that really helps to learn Bo control. I still do it cause it's fun. There are 3-5 moves in the kata that will be very effective if used on an opponent.
I am so sorry to hear about Kyoshi Chandler's death. He was a great man and a dedicated Okinawan Karate Teacher. My sincerest respects. Al Gagne of the Okinawan Temple Karate Studio.
That is bull about the spinning. There is absolutely no reason to do it. The entire highly respected, traditional system of Matayoshi-Ryu Kobudo contains no spins in any of their bo forms. Spinning your bo is simply flash with no substance. It is tournament drek. What is the name of this Kata? Is this passed down, or did someone make this one up? Also, is that a picture of you posing on the wall behind you? Arrogant much!!!
It's not used to be fancy. It's purpose is to hit the top of a bo to cause the opponant to loose their grip, or to lower it for a head shot. I'm in Australia and although majority of the kata is exactly what I've learnt, there are very small differences. This is the bunkai that I was taught by my instructors.
There is a reason for every move. I bet you will change your mind if you get hit by the end of that spinning bo. That bo has a mandatory weight and it is not a tournament empty tube. I have seen it work. That Kata has been passed on to him from OSensei Hohen Soken\Sensei Kise Fusei\Sensei James Coffman and also from OSensei Hohan Soken\Sensei James Coffman directly.
your response sounds like something most american teachers would say. I disagree that the spinning is "used to keep attackers at bay." we must remember kata is not to be taken at face value, and the spinning in the kata is to teach how to handle the weapon. it would be ridiculous to spin the weapon as such in a real encounter... the objective is to hurt and ultimately disable or kill your opponent, not impress him with fancy spinning technique.
neo, Yes, they are indeed separate martial arts, but usually are combined to supplement each other. In fact, the Okinawans were rarely weaponless. Many are proud to call karate a weaponless art, but Okinawans always had a weapon of some sort... ie hairpin, a horseshoe, a bo, etc Weapons are merely an extension of ones karate. The same principles of karate apply to weapons. Weapons training helps to develop strength and conditioning as well as aid ones empty hand method.
Also, could you explain the spinning move (O:12). Is it just spinning or some sort of block/counter combo...? Looks like random spinning to me. Again, hoping for a response, I'll check this vid periodically.
Hello and thank you for your question. First I must appologize for not replying sooner. The spinning is used to keep opponents at bay. But If spinning too long the opponent may time the spinning and attempt to intercept and attack. Therefore the overhead strike and reverse spin for countering the attack. Domo Arigato Goziemas
I have been studying Shorinryu since 1969. I have also been to Okinawa several times. Looking for to another trip there in 2010.
Interesting. I always thought Shorin-Ryu was a style of Karate, i.e. empty hand... and the the Kobuto/Weapons is a separate style, independent of (though perhaps related to) the empty-hand martial art. It's quite possible I'm mistaken though, since I'm no expert, just what you might call a "hobby-ist" of a martial artist. I'd love to get a response.
Hello and thanks for your interest. I must first appologize for not responding sooner. The Okinawans were rarely without a weapon. Well they always had a farm or fising tool with them so that is how they developed the tool into defensive weapons. I have been studying Shorinryu since 1969. Sincerely, Al GagneDomo Arigato Goziemas
Nice! It reminds me a lot of Yamashita Bo Nidan. The big difference is part where your feet comes together where Yamashita's is a cat stance and low outside blocking motion. What is the application is in this version where the feet come together?
slimeslayer 1 year ago
What most impress me on your kata is from the ready position (bo horizontal to the body) you do not move the arm across your face (which blocks the view and exposes the heart area etc.) as you see many practicioners do now. Great performance .
OkinawaShorinryu 2 years ago
@OkinawaShorinryu There is a simple bunkai behind that. One would often stand guard for longer periods of time and having the arm positioned that way blocks the sun :)
Naraku1987 1 year ago
@Naraku1987 This isn't a sentry and beside that your eyes would not ajust that fast from the sun and that brief period of covering your sight may get you killed. These were common folks that used bo, sai etc.
OkinawaShorinryu 1 year ago
My art teacher speaks highly of you. Your form was excellent, and I look forward to meeting you sometime or at Okinawan temple's next outing.
joeynopulse 2 years ago
I learned this kata many years ago but none of us knew the real name. Chandler Kyoshi watched me demo it on one of his visits and his only comments were "that's not one of our kata"
It's a fun kata that really helps to learn Bo control. I still do it cause it's fun. There are 3-5 moves in the kata that will be very effective if used on an opponent.
BobbyJenkins1992 2 years ago
I am so sorry to hear about Kyoshi Chandler's death. He was a great man and a dedicated Okinawan Karate Teacher. My sincerest respects. Al Gagne of the Okinawan Temple Karate Studio.
OkinawanTemple 2 years ago
Sensei Gagne,
Thank you so much for your kind words of condolence for Kyoshi Chandler. The loss is still kind of numbing as I study his videos.
I have much respect for you and your Matsumura Orthodox Shorin-Ryu lineage.
BobbyJenkins1992 2 years ago
That is bull about the spinning. There is absolutely no reason to do it. The entire highly respected, traditional system of Matayoshi-Ryu Kobudo contains no spins in any of their bo forms. Spinning your bo is simply flash with no substance. It is tournament drek. What is the name of this Kata? Is this passed down, or did someone make this one up? Also, is that a picture of you posing on the wall behind you? Arrogant much!!!
rreith 2 years ago
It's not used to be fancy. It's purpose is to hit the top of a bo to cause the opponant to loose their grip, or to lower it for a head shot. I'm in Australia and although majority of the kata is exactly what I've learnt, there are very small differences. This is the bunkai that I was taught by my instructors.
SammelR85 2 years ago
There is a reason for every move. I bet you will change your mind if you get hit by the end of that spinning bo. That bo has a mandatory weight and it is not a tournament empty tube. I have seen it work. That Kata has been passed on to him from OSensei Hohen Soken\Sensei Kise Fusei\Sensei James Coffman and also from OSensei Hohan Soken\Sensei James Coffman directly.
anaaman 2 years ago
okinawan temple,
your response sounds like something most american teachers would say. I disagree that the spinning is "used to keep attackers at bay." we must remember kata is not to be taken at face value, and the spinning in the kata is to teach how to handle the weapon. it would be ridiculous to spin the weapon as such in a real encounter... the objective is to hurt and ultimately disable or kill your opponent, not impress him with fancy spinning technique.
bmcomp1217 3 years ago
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OkinawaShorinryu 2 years ago
Thanks for the info... yes, that does make sense. Kinda make me look at weapons in a little different light too. Cool : )
neostardust 3 years ago
neo, Yes, they are indeed separate martial arts, but usually are combined to supplement each other. In fact, the Okinawans were rarely weaponless. Many are proud to call karate a weaponless art, but Okinawans always had a weapon of some sort... ie hairpin, a horseshoe, a bo, etc Weapons are merely an extension of ones karate. The same principles of karate apply to weapons. Weapons training helps to develop strength and conditioning as well as aid ones empty hand method.
bmcomp1217 3 years ago
Also, could you explain the spinning move (O:12). Is it just spinning or some sort of block/counter combo...? Looks like random spinning to me. Again, hoping for a response, I'll check this vid periodically.
neostardust 3 years ago
Hello and thank you for your question. First I must appologize for not replying sooner. The spinning is used to keep opponents at bay. But If spinning too long the opponent may time the spinning and attempt to intercept and attack. Therefore the overhead strike and reverse spin for countering the attack. Domo Arigato Goziemas
I have been studying Shorinryu since 1969. I have also been to Okinawa several times. Looking for to another trip there in 2010.
OkinawanTemple 3 years ago
Interesting. I always thought Shorin-Ryu was a style of Karate, i.e. empty hand... and the the Kobuto/Weapons is a separate style, independent of (though perhaps related to) the empty-hand martial art. It's quite possible I'm mistaken though, since I'm no expert, just what you might call a "hobby-ist" of a martial artist. I'd love to get a response.
neostardust 3 years ago
Hello and thanks for your interest. I must first appologize for not responding sooner. The Okinawans were rarely without a weapon. Well they always had a farm or fising tool with them so that is how they developed the tool into defensive weapons. I have been studying Shorinryu since 1969. Sincerely, Al GagneDomo Arigato Goziemas
OkinawanTemple 3 years ago